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Topic: Ring Thing DVD - Garrett Thomas
Message: Posted by: Kjellstrom (Apr 18, 2006 12:46AM)
If you read the info about this DVD it sounds like super great magic.
Is this finger ring magic worth to learn?

http://www.llpub.com/zenshop/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=2316
Message: Posted by: paisa23 (Apr 18, 2006 12:48AM)
I know Ring Thing is worth the DVD alone.
Message: Posted by: clusters (Apr 18, 2006 04:35AM)
Is this effect taught in his other DVD set, Inside the Mind of Garrett Thomas???

I believe the effect is you remove a ring from your finger, and then it magically reappears on your finger again. I have seen an 'impromptu' version of this done by other magicians...Is there a preview of this effect?

Oh...Does Vincent Mendoza have a ring to rubberband penetration effect called the Rhing Thing as well?
Message: Posted by: Martino (Apr 18, 2006 05:00AM)
It is performnce only on the "Inside the mind of...." DVD set.
Message: Posted by: Cameron Francis (Apr 18, 2006 09:46AM)
Gregory Wilson teaches it with full credit to Garrett, on the Gregory Wilson In Action vol. 3 dvd. It's also on the L&L Finger Ring dvd... A GREAT buy.
Message: Posted by: The One (Apr 18, 2006 09:48AM)
Man, this is Out?!

awesome!... all the applications garrett has for the move are amazing!

Everyone's gonna be doing this.
Message: Posted by: Cameron Francis (Apr 18, 2006 02:56PM)
Oh, hold on. I didn't click the link before. Wow. A whole dvd dedicated to this routine. Well, looks like there's a lot of other stuff on there too. Nice.
Message: Posted by: Tom Cutts (Apr 19, 2006 11:02PM)
This is a DVD which features many different creative ideas, some of which will make your eyes bug out. Hold a coin at your finger tips... poke your finger right through the coin ala Karate Koin. Instead of tearing, the coin seems melt around your finger and turn into a ring. It is a killer illusion... or maybe it really was magic. It sure looked great!
Message: Posted by: VMC_Alex (Apr 20, 2006 07:14PM)
So how much of "Ring Thing" is included on the L & L compilation DVD?
Message: Posted by: Brian Proctor (Apr 20, 2006 07:56PM)
Isn't this the same "quickie" effect taught on his first tape, "Any Questions?"

What is the difference? What will entice me to wanna check this out if I already have his VHS?

Thanks,
Brian
Message: Posted by: magicinsight (Apr 21, 2006 08:24AM)
As was previously mentioned, Ring Thing is taught on Greg Wilson's In Action vol. 3 DVD and on the L&L Publishing Ring DVD. As Brain stated above, why should I buy this DVD when I already have it on two other DVDs? How is this DVD different?

Best regards,

Michael
Message: Posted by: Cameron Francis (Apr 21, 2006 09:30AM)
Hmm... The effect where you poke your finger through the coin and it turns into a ring sounds a lot like the last phase of Daniel Garcia's Your Personal Safe routine.
Message: Posted by: The One (Apr 21, 2006 10:48AM)
I'll tell you why you should get this:
The illusion of the ring jumping back onto the finger is only ONE of the effects that can be accomplished with the Ring Thing move. The DVD explains many other extremely visual applications for the ring thing.
One of my favorite applications is the ring thru finger, as well as finger through coin/to ring. Not Daniel Garcia's by the way.

I see many people doin the ring thing... many of them doing it wrong. The ring thing move seems simple but in reality it requires finnesse. This DVD is the chance to learn that finnese from the guy who inveted the move.

The One
Message: Posted by: Brian Proctor (Apr 21, 2006 02:07PM)
Well, his VHS tape was good enough for me. I'll stick to that.
Brian
Message: Posted by: Tom Cutts (Apr 21, 2006 07:29PM)
My understanding is that there are a lot more applications and other things on this DVD which pertain to the move and genre than were on the VHS. I haven't seen the VHS.
Message: Posted by: jchiou (Apr 22, 2006 12:38PM)
Does this effect require a duplicate or gaffed ring?
Message: Posted by: matt.magicman (Apr 25, 2006 09:22AM)
What is an average guide to the skill level required?is it a real knuckbuster, or just one that will come with a little practice?
thanks
Message: Posted by: Kjellstrom (Apr 25, 2006 09:34AM)
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On 2006-04-22 13:38, jchiou wrote:
Does this effect require a duplicate or gaffed ring?
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No, you can use any ring.
Message: Posted by: Daniel Faith (Apr 25, 2006 10:08AM)
I have the manuscript that I bought online and downloaded.
Excellent effect. It was difficult reading it and understand the moves as they are pretty intricate. The DVD will help in a big way with this.
Message: Posted by: The One (Apr 25, 2006 06:14PM)
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On 2006-04-25 10:22, matt.magicman wrote:
What is an average guide to the skill level required?is it a real knuckbuster, or just one that will come with a little practice?
thanks
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Definatelt not a knuckle burster, you could even say its easy because of how simple it is to learn it. However the finnesse will take a little time.

The ring thing is the kind of effect that you can perform with a little practice, and yet you can make improvements for a lifetime.
Message: Posted by: blpprt (Apr 30, 2006 06:50PM)
The main thing I don't like about the routines on the new Garrett DVD is that he uses an oversized ring (at least one size too big) that fits easily on any finger. Since I work strictly impromptu, I like to use a ring that I can actually wear on my finger and not just keep it in my pocket. The required use of the oversized ring killed the possibility of using much of the material on this DVD. The routine that Gregory Wilson does (which is an adaptation of Garrett's), is a fine adaption for me. I'm almost sorry I bought this DVD but was hoping I could learn maybe a couple more effects using finger rings.

Bob L.
Message: Posted by: MarvinSanRemo (May 1, 2006 11:13AM)
Blpprt

I PMed you to see if you were interested in selling or trading that dvd.
Message: Posted by: The One (May 1, 2006 12:02PM)
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On 2006-04-30 19:50, blpprt wrote:
The main thing I don't like about the routines on the new Garrett DVD is that he uses an oversized ring (at least one size too big) that fits easily on any finger. Since I work strictly impromptu, I like to use a ring that I can actually wear on my finger and not just keep it in my pocket. The required use of the oversized ring killed the possibility of using much of the material on this DVD. The routine that Gregory Wilson does (which is an adaptation of Garrett's), is a fine adaption for me. I'm almost sorry I bought this DVD but was hoping I could learn maybe a couple more effects using finger rings.

Bob L.

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What do you mean? You don't need an oversize ring...
Message: Posted by: gkfreed (May 1, 2006 12:16PM)
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On 2006-04-30 19:50, blpprt wrote:
The main thing I don't like about the routines on the new Garrett DVD is that he uses an oversized ring (at least one size too big) that fits easily on any finger.
Bob L.

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Bob,
Try using your normal finger ring (from your ring finger)and performing the moves at the "end" of the index finger, instead of all the way on. (I hope that is somewhat clear). Give it a try.
Message: Posted by: Christopher Williams (May 1, 2006 04:23PM)
[quote]
On 2006-04-25 11:08, Daniel Faith wrote:
I have the manuscript that I bought online and downloaded.
Excellent effect. It was difficult reading it and understand the moves as they are pretty intricate. The DVD will help in a big way with this.
[/quote]

Where did you get this?
Message: Posted by: Eric Jones (May 1, 2006 08:00PM)
[quote]
On 2006-04-21 11:48, The One wrote:
I'll tell you why you should get this:
The illusion of the ring jumping back onto the finger is only ONE of the effects that can be accomplished with the Ring Thing move. The DVD explains many other extremely visual applications for the ring thing.

One of my favorite applications is the ring thru finger, as well as finger through coin/to ring. Not Daniel Garcia's by the way.[/quote]

I wonder how much it looks like my Karate Coin Penetration???????
Message: Posted by: clamon86 (May 2, 2006 11:15PM)
If you want to do the best impromptu effect ever then get this dvd. All you need is a ring, and a coin(if you want to do the spellbound moves).

Even if you have a greg wilson dvd, get the garrett thomas dvd. To understand the full impace of the effect, and see it done by the inventor.

The coin phases where he pokes a whole through the coin and it becomes a ring, is EXTREMELY VISUAL and not hard to do.

If you like ring stuff, or have the greg wilson dvd, and you don't get this you are missing out on ALOT.
Message: Posted by: info2victor (May 3, 2006 12:22PM)
I've ordered it and it arrived today~!

The DVD is well made and the quality is good. Every details are covered and Garrett shares his own performance tips throughout the DVD, which is great. Garrett's style is kind of nice, he doesn't speak much during the performance but you'll surely know what he is going to show you -- pure magic. His poses are natural and even if you know how the moves are done you'll be fooled as much as a layman (at least for me)

Franky I'm not sure about the ring thing itself worths the whole DVD... but when you put all the materials together, it is well worth the money~! Definitely one of the best buy of close-up ring effects. Actually I like the "Pull Through" more =)

I myself don't have Greg.'s Ring Leader so I can't compare the 2. But this one is really cool, and for most effects all you need is a ring (not even a string). I agree with bob L that an oversized ring is better. For most routines you'll need to take off/on the ring single-handedly, which is kind of difficult if the ring you use fits your finger tightly (though Garrett suggests to do it near your fingertips in case you come along with a smaller ring). The ring I'm practising with is a ring that fits tighly around my first finger. But it's not a big problem once you modify the starting position of the ring at your second knucle.

I really like this DVD and the effects there. For those who would like to get started with ring effects, this is the one you should consider~
Message: Posted by: MarvinSanRemo (May 3, 2006 12:48PM)
Great review victor. I just ordered this last night after finally seeing a demo.

A quick question for you, or anyone. Can I use a PK ring to do these effects? I was holding off on purchasing a PK ring until I found out for sure. Just thought it would be nice to be able to do effects from both camps with one ring :)
Message: Posted by: magicstudent (May 3, 2006 07:16PM)
Marvin,
I also think to use PK Ring for the Ring Thing effect, One thing you need to consider is the size of the ring, IMO effect with PK Ring needs a fit ring while effect in Ring Thing needs a loose ring although Garrett mention that this is not a must.
I suggest you hold buying the PK Ring until you watch the Ring Thing DVD.

Jeff
Message: Posted by: MarvinSanRemo (May 3, 2006 11:42PM)
Will do. Thanks for the advice.
Message: Posted by: info2victor (May 4, 2006 01:34AM)
Thanks Marvin.

I'm sorry that I don't own PK ring so I can't really tell it is suitable for the ring thing or not. Garrett mentioned that the ring thing doesn't only applies for finger ring, you can use other stuff like Karate Coin, or even a bandage(!). So as long as it is a circular thing that wraps around you finger you are set to go. But as I mentioned if you want to do all the exact things in the DVD, a ring that fits tightly at the base of your finger wouldn't so easy as for some of the routines since you need to take it off single-handedly.

However, if you JUST want to do the ring thing, with a suitable storyline you can use a fit ring. But my suggestion is use a slightly oversided ring so you can do other effects as well. In this sense I agree with Jeff for withhold the purchasing of PK ring.

Hope that helps =)
Message: Posted by: GeorgeSantos (May 10, 2006 12:24AM)
The demo looks really visual. I have the any questions video of his. I still can't do the ring thing properly. Will this video improve my skills.?

I really want to get good at this effect because it is really visual, no talk needed.
Message: Posted by: magicstudent (May 10, 2006 01:16AM)
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On 2006-05-10 01:24, GeorgeSantos wrote:
The demo looks really visual. I have the any questions video of his. I still can't do the ring thing properly. Will this video improve my skills.?
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I don't know how difference RT DVD with RT in Any Question video but there are some other good effects in the Ring Thing DVD like Ring Thru Finger, Ring to Coin to Ring etc and Garrett explains them in details. So I am sure it will improve your knowledge about Ring Thing effect. If you only interested with only the "Ring Thing" effect then I think you don't need to buy the DVD.

Jeff
Message: Posted by: Joe Russell (May 10, 2006 10:17AM)
The ring thing is the only effect that I perform almost every day, some times multiple times. For the past 4 years I have worn a ring on my finger just to do this effect. So I always have something on me for those show me a trick moments, no digging into your pocket for some coins or a deck of cards, its out their in the open and ready in a seconds notice.
JR
Message: Posted by: merlin1979 (May 16, 2006 05:33PM)
What a fantastic DVD! I have seldom been so impressed both by the quality of magic and the quality of the DVD. This is one of the best buys if you like impromptu magic with visual flair. Garrett Thomas whetted my appetite for the ring thing on his other 'inside the mind of' DVDs with a performance only segment but this DVD really does the business. If you like ungimmicked magic that is quick and visual, get it!!
Message: Posted by: niva (May 17, 2006 01:44AM)
I don't know what you think, but I wouldn't use a PK Ring with such a routine as much as possible. I would want to keep the PK Ring out of the scene as much as possible. I think it is better to have another ring, maybe on the other hand. What do you all think?
Message: Posted by: GeorgeSantos (May 17, 2006 02:43AM)
Yup the PK ring could be used in other effects than just for the Ring Thing. If you have it on at the moment though, then why hesitate.. ;)
Message: Posted by: Joe Russell (May 17, 2006 09:05AM)
Whats wrong with useing a PK ring, if it looks like a normal ring?