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Topic: GREED Gimmick Question
Message: Posted by: Salby (Aug 18, 2006 06:47PM)
I have a question about creating the Gimmick before I sit down to make it:

What is the best adhesive??

D. Garcia talks about using some sort of tape, but can you use a Glue Stick or Rubber Cement instead (I have those 2 items sitting around the house)??. . . Both of which are very strong and virtually permanent, let alone easy to apply to the WHOLE surface-- right to the ends of each of the pieces.

Thanks
Message: Posted by: bsears (Aug 19, 2006 02:07PM)
I made one last week using rubber cement and it came apart almost immediately. Use the tape he mentions, its easy to find.
Message: Posted by: Chris SD (Aug 20, 2006 05:22AM)
The tape/glue stuff that he mentions is very easy to find, and I find myself using it more and more.
It's made by Tombo, and it's called "mono adhesive". It comes in one of those little things that white-out comes in now, where you roll it across the paper and it comes off the spool.

You can get it at either Hobby Lobby or Michaels.
Message: Posted by: Salby (Aug 20, 2006 10:24AM)
I have the manuscript for GREED only (NOT the DVD). In the manuscipt he does not explain how to apply this mono adhesive stuff onto the pieces-- just "apply it". If it is like tape, how much is used on each piece?? Do you cover the whole piece or just around the ends. . . or what??
Message: Posted by: magiczim (Aug 20, 2006 06:51PM)
I made mine with spray adhesive. It works very well, and allows Greed to be changed when needed. so far, nothing has happened to mine.

_Zim
Message: Posted by: Salby (Aug 21, 2006 08:53AM)
Now THAT's a GREAT IDEA. . . Spray Adhesive!!

Magiczim-- You definitely look outside the box!!

Did you spray 1 side and then attach it, or you needed to spray both sides?? A thin coat or lathered on?? Let dry before sticking to each other??

Thanks so much. Plus, I would imagine this makes the bill even thinner than with a piece of "tape" sandwiched in the pieces.
Message: Posted by: magiczim (Aug 21, 2006 05:36PM)
I sprayed both sides and let them dry a little bit before attaching. Make sure not to spray too much, or the soggyness of the bill will be a big issue with the adhesion. After spraying, let sit for about 1-2 mins, then attach. If you make a mistake, then you only have a short period to fix it, so be careful. The spray also helps with allowing the bill to fold without any restrictions that other methods would have caused. Hope this helps.

_Zim
Message: Posted by: Salby (Aug 23, 2006 08:28PM)
Hey MagicZim,

I tried spraying some of the Spray Adhesive (Elmer's Brand) as a dry-run on the leftover remnants. On the good side, it holds like STEEL. On the bad side, any area that gets exposed of the spray (on the portion of the $1 that does not get attached to anything) remains STICKY and very SHINY.

There is no way to remove the sprayed adhesive.

Again, I think this is still a wonderful alternative and applied in the right manner, the gimmick will remain thinner than with a "tape" of some sort. This would give the gimmick more flexibility, both physically and utilization-wise for many more possibilities for the gimmick-- New ideas. . . New patter. . . New routines.

I still want to do a few more dry-runs (on regular paper now) to be reassured of not ruining the good-run.

Any other tips from you or anyone who has tried and perhaps was as successful as MagicZim??

Regards
Message: Posted by: bsears (Aug 25, 2006 01:21PM)
The bonus of using the tape is that it strengthens the bills. The gimmick you took so long to make will last longer.

BTW, I used Scotch Brand double sided permanent tape.
Message: Posted by: Salby (Aug 26, 2006 04:18PM)
Well. . . I made the Gimmick........FINALLY!!!!

I used a product called "Vellum Adhesive Runner" by a company called: Therm O Web. It is clear and used for transparencies. It is located in Wal-mart in the "Scrapbooking" aisle and sells (at least in NJ) under $5.

What it actually is, is the clear gum substance that is on permanent Scotch Tape. It is dispensed the same as that Mono-adhesive product in kinda "roll-on applicator dispenser". It is NOT a tape, which is what I exactly didn't want it to be--- JUST THE TACKY GUMMY STUFF!!!

It worked like a gem!! It is permanent, but it can come apart with some tugging when making the gimmick if the pieces are not straight. When you are happy with it, just pressed on the areas firmly. The Gimmick, when completed using this adhesive, is THIN as could be. I am working on it to fit into a TT for further ideas for effects to suit my style better.

Presentation of Daniel's handling?? I did it twice for each of my parents (who know what to look for). . . I cleaned their drool off their chins.

Whatever adhesive you choose. . . GREED is a stunner and well worth the price and time in making the gimmick.

Thanks to you once again, Daniel. . . I think I am going to amaze more people with this effect while waiting for FRAUD of yours.