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Topic: Blockhead question
Message: Posted by: AntonDreaming (Oct 17, 2006 09:17AM)
What is considered to be the longest "nail or like object" over to be uesed foir the blockead trick. Also what is considered to be the average legneth... If anyone want to post the size they use feel free. I use a 4inch nail and a slightly longer screwdriver...

Yours Anton
Message: Posted by: Todd Robbins (Oct 17, 2006 10:16AM)
I use a six inch nail but, as with so many things in life, it's not the size that matters.
Message: Posted by: thegreatnippulini (Oct 17, 2006 02:55PM)
It's the width.
Message: Posted by: gsidhe (Oct 17, 2006 03:00PM)
And proper lubrication.
Message: Posted by: erikkloeker (Oct 17, 2006 03:22PM)
Does 6" go all the way in Todd (all kidding aside ; ) I saw you do it at the gathering but can't remember. I use a 4 1/2" nail/chisel. I'm guessing 3 1/2"-4" is average but I don't really know.
Message: Posted by: gsidhe (Oct 17, 2006 03:25PM)
I can only do 4" with a nail.
5 1/2" with a necklace glowstick (It curves).
Gwyd
Message: Posted by: Roslyn (Oct 17, 2006 03:56PM)
My nails are about 4. I've not tried longer, maybe I should.
Message: Posted by: Stephon (Oct 17, 2006 05:49PM)
The longest object I've used was an approx. 7 inch eyeglasses arm.
Message: Posted by: carnevilcircus (Oct 19, 2006 02:43AM)
I keep telling the crowd it's a 6 inch screwdriver, I know the thing is so freaking wide it'll barely fit back there, but I'd say 6 is the limit before I tap bottom....
Message: Posted by: aggieman (Oct 19, 2006 06:53PM)
TO KNOW ABOUT GAGE ASK AND I CAN POST THE PREVIOUS STORY. it barely deals with the story I am posting about.

Gage ran through our minds again in 2005 when construction worker Patrick Lawler fell down a staircase carrying a nail gun. Talk show audiences were amazed to see a fully recovered Lawler describing X-ray images of a 4-inch nail standing upright above his jaw. Lawler had used Advil to put off a “toothache” for six days before he realized there was a nail in his face

extreme block head.
Message: Posted by: carnevilcircus (Oct 20, 2006 01:41AM)
Hmmmm well atleast he was'nt running with scissors...
Message: Posted by: Harley Newman (Oct 20, 2006 02:11AM)
Some scissors fit.
Message: Posted by: carnevilcircus (Oct 23, 2006 03:50PM)
Before or after you fell with them?
heeheehee
Message: Posted by: Harley Newman (Oct 23, 2006 10:40PM)
Oh, yes!
Message: Posted by: Scott Xavier (Oct 24, 2006 01:01AM)
I use a 5 3/4" nail. I got them from farm and fleet in Chicago, they are awesome for stage as they can be seen by the whole audience.
Message: Posted by: thegreatnippulini (Oct 25, 2006 07:56AM)
I guess now is a good time to remind everyone here that I still do blacksmithing and fabricate blockhead nails to custom specs for sideshow entertainers. The nails are hand forged from surgical implant grade stainless steel, guaranteed never to rust! I've made some big ones.
Message: Posted by: aggieman (Oct 25, 2006 11:45AM)
I might just order one, after I meet with Mr. Newman later next summer. That is if he teaches me the way to perform block head, I am not sure if that will be covered or not. :)
Message: Posted by: Roslyn (Oct 25, 2006 02:47PM)
I can definately recommend TGN's nails.

I used them daily since I got them 3 ish months ago and I can honestly say they're the best nails I've ever had.

The only downer for me is I can't gove them away to specs. Its not the cost so much, more the fact they just look too good to hand over.

Ros
Message: Posted by: fredmoore (Oct 26, 2006 08:44AM)
I've used the cocktail "straws" before, great for those impromptu moments at the bar when somebody says "show me a trick".

They never ask again!
Message: Posted by: Joshua Lozoff (Nov 11, 2006 09:47AM)
Where can Blockhead be found?
Message: Posted by: NippleKing (Nov 11, 2006 10:21AM)
It's not so much a trick as it is a stunt. Of course, the best way to learn such a thing is to learn from a pro. Todd Robbins will teach you Human Blockhead and more at his sideshow school. http://www.coneyisland.com/sideshow_school.shtml

There is another sideshow school that is more like a summer camp for sideshow, but I'm sorry I don't remember the name of the fellow who administers it. I'm so bad with names, please don't hold it against me!

By the way, I think my best on Human Blockhead is an instant read meat thermometer.
Message: Posted by: AntonDreaming (Nov 12, 2006 12:34PM)
Ive seen an done the standard cooking thermomiter... played around with ways of making the temp reise when its in your head...great bit...

Anton
Message: Posted by: Dr. Eamon (Mar 18, 2007 06:59PM)
You can use 10 Inch

but it will stick out a little on the back...
Message: Posted by: thegreatnippulini (Mar 21, 2007 08:12AM)
Anton, get one of the meat thermometers with graduations from 60 up to like 350. The ones with the markings for meat types are set for temps too high for the human body. Immerse the entire sensor (the metal rod part, not the whole thermo) in a glass of salty ice water (salt water has a much lower temp than 32 degrees). Keep this behind a prop. When you're ready for the act, simply wipe it with a clean rag and pop it in. I don't know how the chill will feel, but it will definitely show your body temp bringing it up to heat!
Message: Posted by: thegreatnippulini (Mar 21, 2007 08:15AM)
Oh, I forgot.... toss the water when your done, lest one forgets and goes "wow, I'm thirsty after the gig.. being under these hot lights... Oh hey, look! A glass of ice water"
Message: Posted by: gsidhe (Mar 21, 2007 10:03AM)
[quote]
On 2006-10-26 09:44, fredmoore wrote:

I've used the cocktail "straws" before, great for those impromptu moments at the bar when somebody says "show me a trick".

They never ask again!


[/quote]
Tried cocktail straws for the first time a little bit ago. Also hurt myself for the first time doing blockhead trying it.
The edge of the end of the straw was sharper than anything I am used to, scraped the inside of my passage something fierce.
No more straws for me. I'll stick to glowsticks and nails (And those little drink umbrellas (Thanks for the idea Harley!!))
Still looking for a good fiber optic small diameter light though...I really want to curve from my sinus to the back of my throat and have the light shine out.
It just seems fun.
Gwyd
Message: Posted by: mindcontroller (Mar 21, 2007 10:43AM)
Greetings People!

Bit new to this blockhead, recently been experimenting after requesting advice from just about everyone!

One thing I have found is that I don't have any problem at all with 4 inch nails that are about 4.8 millimetres wide, however the 5 inch nails I can get most of the way in my nose with about 6 millimetres length left protruding from the nostril which must be my maximum, also the main thing about these nails is the width, the packet says the 5 inch nails are 5mm, however upon measuring them myself they are about 6mm in reality.

I'm still experimenting with sizes with the intention to order some nails from "thegreatnippulini"

My question is, are all 5 inch nails the same width, I've tried B&Q in the UK and the only ones they sell here are bright steel 5mm x 125mm, like I said they are more like 6mm in width and 123 mm long, not quite what it says on the packet, I could do with something slightly smaller in width but maybe same length to perform with comfortably as giveaways.

I'm looking for some 5 inch nails slightly thinner than the 6mm, ideally 5mm or slightly smaller like the 4 inch nails. Does anyone have any idea's where I can get something like that?

Also any advice on the actual hammering techniques would be appreciated, I don't have any problems getting the nail in place all the way, but the tricky bit I have found is the actual performance of the hammering to make it look like hammering when in reality I'm not, that bit I am struggling with big time, any advice on technique would be great!


Regards

MC
Message: Posted by: Danny Borneo (Mar 21, 2007 12:37PM)
Just to let you all know, I received my "Nippulini Nails" today and they are f-ing amazing. TGN does some great work and I highly recommend everyone get some of these. Turn around was super fast, he kept me updated through the whole process and was an absolute pleasure to deal with. So to TGN, I say thank you.........and to the rest of you I say, GET YOUR NAILS NOW!
Message: Posted by: Freak Prodigy (Mar 21, 2007 01:48PM)
Oh..I need to send yours...

It will get mailed today.

But give me a call anyway. If you lost my #...I've PMed you.


Brett.
Message: Posted by: mindcontroller (Mar 27, 2007 02:22PM)
Well I've looked everywhere and cant find such a thing as a 4.75 inch nail that's as thin as a 4" nail and not as thick as a 5" nail, and no replies to my questions so I'm assuming they don't exist!

If anyone does come accross some UK shops selling 5 inch nails thinner than 6mm, the packets say 5mm but they are more like 6mm, if anyone comes accross some maybe 4mm wide 5 inch nails then please let me know by PM please.

Thanks in advance.

MC
Message: Posted by: gsidhe (Mar 27, 2007 03:00PM)
Sorry I didn't reply earlier.
I never really looked at nail sizes too much. From my experience, the thicker the nail (Up to a point) the easier and more comfortable it is. My favourite thing to stick up my nose is a phillips head screwdriver or bracelet glowstick.
I can't help with hammering though. I've tried it once or twice, and it works allright, but honestly, the times I have seen it hammered in (Even before I knew how to do it myself) weren't really all that convincing. The one I liked, the nail was tapped in with the microphone. It made a great noise that the audience really reacted to. I did try that at a show about a month ago. It was nice because it was good and loud, implying a hard hit, yet the taps with the microphone were softer than anything you would do with a hammer. It allowed for a good deal of control.
Just my thoughts,
Gwyd
Message: Posted by: Kondini (Mar 27, 2007 03:06PM)
Regards the hammer in>>> Hold the nail between thumb and finger to act as a restrictor to the hammer blows >>>> The tighter you hold the nail, the more forceful blows can be made with the hammer.

Re >>>> Nail size >>> Bear in mind the more you do it the larger diam width of nail will go in easy.

Plenty of nails available here in the UK >>> Also spoons, chopsticks, drills, tent pegs etc etc should be no problem getting what you require. Nips does a grand job,,,,, also whats the problem,,,if they are too long cut them off and re-grind,,,,,ok

Ken
Message: Posted by: FacadeTheStiltBoy (Mar 27, 2007 09:16PM)
Also keep in mind that if you do the little tiki umbrellas, you can blow on them causing them to spin and eventually fly out of the nose.


(learned that one from Sideshow Bennie)
Message: Posted by: Harley Newman (Mar 28, 2007 06:14AM)
Small pinwheels are nice also.
Message: Posted by: thegreatnippulini (Mar 28, 2007 07:15AM)
I use.... oh wait, I don't hammer nails in my face, only a blockhead would do something like that!
Message: Posted by: Gemeanii (Apr 5, 2007 02:47PM)
I've been doing this close up at night; I made my own custom nail out of Plexiglas. It really gets them wondering because there is no way anything can be faked, it would be to visible. The really cool thing is, once the nail is in, I pull a small flashlight from my pocket, turn it on and shove it into my mouth. Now the head of the nail glows blood red... Ahh, I can hear teh screams even now...

Steve
Message: Posted by: gsidhe (Apr 5, 2007 03:13PM)
That works?!?
How cool is that!
I've been trying to find a flashlight that would fit up my nose to light up my mouth, when I have been going at it backwards!! Light up the mouth to glow the nose...
SWEET!
Gwyd
Message: Posted by: Stephon (Apr 5, 2007 07:24PM)
Steve, that sounds like a marvelous idea. How are you making the nails?
Message: Posted by: thegreatnippulini (Apr 6, 2007 08:00AM)
Brett Loudermilk (Freak Prodigy) makes Pyrex glass nails. I would recommend those compared to plexi. Pyrex is a material better suited for being in your body. I've seen some nasty reactions the body goes trhough when exposed to the wrong kind of acrylics. Plus, Pyrex can be sterilized, is shatter resistant and overall safer. Plexiglas (which by the way is a trademarked name for acrylic products, kinda like Saran Wrap, Kleenex, Scotch Tape, Xerox, Post it, etc.) is soft and can scratch very easily. The scratches can irritate the mucus membranes and sinus tissues. Plexi can also melt when exposed to certain chemicals. Some types of acyrlics can CRACK just by being wiped simply with alcohol.

Buy a Pyrex nail from Brett. He invented them!
Message: Posted by: Stephon (Apr 6, 2007 09:12AM)
Thanks for the info and advice, Nips.
Message: Posted by: Freak Prodigy (Apr 6, 2007 10:53AM)
My nails are anealed (hardened), hand-made, absoulutly see through and not to mention fiber optic.

Fiber optic cable is made by stretching rods of glass into "strings".
My nails transmit light better than anything out there, because they are truly FO grade glass.

PM me if you have any questions.


PS
Nips, thanks for the support!


Brett.
"The Inventor of The Glass Blockhead Nail"
Message: Posted by: Roslyn (Apr 6, 2007 11:25AM)
I performed this at the Blackpool magic convention this January.

Never done it for magi before.

The reaction is even better than for lay people.

I even had one guy ask me where I'd got the gimmicked nail. When I showed him it was real he commented on how good my switch was and asked where I'd ditched the gimmicked nail!!!

So I did it again and let him pull it out.

The guy freaked big time!! Although that may have been due to all the snot hanging off the nail... being Jan I had a bit of a cold ;)

Ah, the fun one can have with a long bit of metal!
Message: Posted by: Gemeanii (Apr 6, 2007 11:46AM)
Wow,

Just goes to show there is always something to learn. When I first thought about a clear nail (falsly thinking it to be a unique idea, I now realize) I considered glass to be too fragil and likely to be unsafe. So, having access to a lathe and some Acrylic rod I turned my own. Now, as I learn more from those who've already trod this path, I am given cause to reconsider... Thanks!

And my favorite line, as I pass the nail out for inspection afterwards: "Someone always thinks it's a fake nail - but it's SNOT!"

Brett, Look for a PM from em too.

Steve
Message: Posted by: Gemeanii (Apr 6, 2007 12:57PM)
I should add, I really need to agree with Nip on his points:

I have always been attentive to the softness of the plastic keeping it carefully wrapped when not in use, and to cleanliness by washing it after use. The issue of sterility is much better with Pyrex since minute scratches in the acrylic easily harbor bacteria. Even with attention to protecting the Acrylic from harm, microfine scratcher are easily evident everywhere. Yep... right on the money with every point... I'd have to say, Swami, go with Pyrex, I am.

Even the idea of pounding glass in to my head sounds like a better effect.

Thanks Nip,

Steve
Message: Posted by: Freak Prodigy (Apr 6, 2007 01:09PM)
Welcome to the Café Steve,

I PMed you with some technical info.


Brett.
Message: Posted by: Freak Prodigy (Apr 6, 2007 01:25PM)
Oh yes...

If you want great steel nails, talk to Nips.

I love mine, I don't leave home without it!

Nippy Nail, Apply directly to the sinus.
Nippy Nail, Apply directly to the sinus.
Nippy Nail, Apply directly to the sinus.
Nippy Nail, Apply directly to the sinus.


Brett.
Message: Posted by: Gemeanii (Apr 6, 2007 01:35PM)
Thanks,

May do that too. For now, my custom turned surgical grade stainless steel is working fine, well - it is a bit loose... maybe it's time for something a bit larger and I did loose connection with my material supply.

Maybe... A Nice New Nips Nail in my Nose is Needed... Neat!

Pondering...

Steve
Message: Posted by: Dr. Eamon (Apr 6, 2007 05:23PM)
I hate getting tairs in my eyes all the time, do I do something wrong...
Message: Posted by: thegreatnippulini (Apr 6, 2007 05:31PM)
My surgical steel nails are not turned on a lathe, rather they are hand forged with intense heat and precision hammering. The method is actually ancient, even used for crucifix nails used on a fellow a couple millenia ago. The heat treatment (called tempering) is used to keep the metal from being too brittle. Tempering does NOT harden steel, that would be the equivalent of slamming a door open.