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Topic: Folding “State” Quarters - thoughts?
Message: Posted by: Danny Diamond (Nov 14, 2006 11:33AM)
Well, I ordered a new folding quarter from my favorite online dealer. It arrived last night and I opened it, glanced at the quarter, and then decided to skim through the routines/instructions. The first thing I read is something to the effect of “congratulations, the coin you now own is a specially prepared “loonie” etc....” - so my first thought is, “oh no, did I order a Canadian coin by accident?? So now I look closer at the quarter, and it does look odd, and for a second, I think I did order the wrong coin.

Then I realize that the coin IS indeed a quarter, only it's a state quarter, specifically, Florida. Maybe I have just never seen a Florida state quarter yet, but it looked really odd to me.

Well, I guess I assumed my quarter would just be the old eagle version, so I was a little surprised to see that it was a state quarter. Now, in my case, I have a specific coin in bottle routine that I purchased the quarter for, and it doesn't involve borrowing a coin. I introduce a real (matching) quarter, have it examined, and then do the routine. So the fact that it is a state quarter is not a big deal for me, technically.

However, maybe it's because this Florida quarter looks strange to me, but if given the option, I think I would have chosen an eagle quarter as my folding coin, despite the fact that I do not have to borrow a coin for the routine I have in mind. Maybe it's kind of like using a standard Bicycle deck as opposed to a funky-colored Bicycle deck - it's still ungaffed, but the original just looks more familiar and unsuspiscious? Am I over-thinking this?
Message: Posted by: Jeff Corn (Nov 14, 2006 02:08PM)
I think you are, but you're really not. I work in a shop and we sell these things every week. I see people come in wanting nothing but eagles. I've seen them not wanting an eagle at all. I've never worried about it, but others feel more comfortable with the classics.
Message: Posted by: tbaer (Nov 14, 2006 06:45PM)
Nowadays you almost have to specify what kind of quarter you want, whether it's the older style quarters or the newer style. That happened to me to. I assumed I would get the eagle, but got the newer state quarter. These magic companies are just trying to keep up with the times.

The new style nickels look weird too.
Message: Posted by: sibbie (Nov 15, 2006 02:41PM)
I wondered if these were out yet. I knew it would come sooner or later. The only issue I have nos is when you ask to borrow a quarter there how many different options, 40? Anyone have a way of dealing with this they would like to share?
Message: Posted by: geemack (Nov 15, 2006 03:53PM)
The United States Mint has been producing these commemorative State Quarters since the beginning of 1999. Five new coins showing five different states have been produced each year under the 50 State Quarters® Program, with a total of almost 30 billion Quarters minted so far. As of early November, 2006, forty of the states have been represented. There are only two more years of the program, and only ten more states to honor before the program comes to an end.

I checked about 60 random Quarters in my own change jar and found that just barely less than half are State Quarters. So your odds of getting one when borrowing a Quarter from a spectator are probably almost 50/50. Over the next two years, with the release of the remaining ten states, you'll likely begin to encounter these even more often than the older type with the eagle on the tail. So if you don't already have a contingency in your routine, you'd do well to be prepared for receiving either design.

With so many possible state (tail) sides, keep in mind that the head sides on the State Quarters are all alike. Even the year is marked on the tail. Remembering that these all have identical head sides might help you develop ways to handle the coins to reduce the problems presented by having so many different tail sides.

Greg
Message: Posted by: Danny Diamond (Nov 15, 2006 05:40PM)
Well, like I said, the routine I have in mind for coin through bottle, is Lonnie Chevries' Two Bit in a Bottle - and that one involves you providing your own coin anyway, with no marking. So for me, my routine really isn't affected or hindered because of the state quarter I received. It's more of a psychological thing with me, like a state quarter might appear every so slightly more suspicious to a spectator.
Message: Posted by: sibbie (Nov 15, 2006 06:45PM)
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So your odds of getting one when borrowing a Quarter from a spectator are probably almost 50/50.
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In my area we tend to get more of the state quarters. However, the collecting buzz that the coins generate also doesn't seem to be as strong in my area either.

However, this is now a moot point because....

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With so many possible state (tail) sides, keep in mind that the head sides on the State Quarters are all alike. Even the year is marked on the tail.
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Although this is something I have seen thousands upon thousands of times (literally) it never really registered in my mind that there was no date on the front. This actually solves my small issue completely! Thanks a lot Greg.
Message: Posted by: tbaer (Nov 15, 2006 10:16PM)
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On 2006-11-15 15:41, sibbie wrote:
I wondered if these were out yet. I knew it would come sooner or later. The only issue I have nos is when you ask to borrow a quarter there how many different options, 40? Anyone have a way of dealing with this they would like to share?
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You could have the eagle quarter classic palmed in your left hand and the state quarter classic palmed in your right hand. Then when the spectator hands you a quarter, which ever style it is, you can casually ditch the other style quarter into your pocket as your pattering.
Message: Posted by: Danny Diamond (Nov 16, 2006 08:05AM)
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On 2006-11-15 23:16, tbaer wrote:
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On 2006-11-15 15:41, sibbie wrote:
I wondered if these were out yet. I knew it would come sooner or later. The only issue I have nos is when you ask to borrow a quarter there how many different options, 40? Anyone have a way of dealing with this they would like to share?
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You could have the eagle quarter classic palmed in your left hand and the state quarter classic palmed in your right hand. Then when the spectator hands you a quarter, which ever style it is, you can casually ditch the other style quarter into your pocket as your pattering.
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Wouldn't you need 40 hands for this to work?

BTW, I have a change jar at home and went through over 100 quarters last night - and found NO Floridas to match my folding coin! D'oh!
Message: Posted by: tbaer (Nov 16, 2006 05:20PM)
Well, you wouldn't be able to show the tail side of the state quarter, that's for sure.
Message: Posted by: Jeff Corn (Nov 17, 2006 10:33AM)
I think you guys are overanalyzing this. People never call me on the state on the coin. I'm usually careful to make sure I get the state or eagle part right, but which state really isn't a big deal in most situations. If you're biting the coin, the head side is towards them. If you're putting it in a bottle, the glass will distort the image and they will be far more concerned with the coin going through the bottle to care what state it is.
Message: Posted by: Aaron Moring (Nov 17, 2006 04:08PM)
Not sure how difficult it would be technical-wise to do, but I would think that a folder (or other various gaffs, for that matter) could be made out of a two-headed state quarter. That way there is no date, no indescrepancy, and no worries about which side will land up. And since the edge is messed up anyway, you could make the two-sided in the old fashioned way, soldering two filed down halves. Just a thought.
Message: Posted by: dxsare (Nov 17, 2006 06:24PM)
Danny Diamond, I noticed you are from Connecticut, Have you seen your state quarter?? It's a huge oak tree that takes up the whole back. By far my favorite state quarter.


Stevie D
Message: Posted by: Expertmagician (Jun 14, 2019 10:11AM)
I see this is an old thread.... But, I could not find a newer thread.
But, does anyone know who make a good folding State US Quarter ?

Yes, I know the state may not match the borrowed quarter. But, at least the head side will look normal.

Thoughts ?
Message: Posted by: Wravyn (Jun 14, 2019 11:44AM)
Johnson Magic Products make a quality folder. You would have to contact them to see if they are new state or eagle.
Message: Posted by: countrymaven (Jun 29, 2019 09:42AM)
Not trying to sound corny, but Mr. Corn, your advice is pure gold. totally agree.