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Topic: The injog
Message: Posted by: mark334 (Dec 19, 2006 02:50PM)
Hey I'm working my way through the royal road to card magic,Iv just found my way to the injog and I'm having some problems with this I seem to struggle to get my little finger under the joged card. And also getting the injog its self so any tip's or advice would be great.
Message: Posted by: Jonathan P. (Dec 19, 2006 03:06PM)
Use your thumb to lift the jogged card while squaring and keep the separation with the pinky.
I don't have the Royal Road at hand, but I guess, if it talks about the injog; that it teaches some ways to get into it, no? If yes, which one causes problem to you?
Jonathan.
Message: Posted by: evolve629 (Dec 19, 2006 03:27PM)
I think you place your pinky under the injog card and then your right hand would go over and lift up all the cards above your pinky. So your pinky finger serves a function to enable you to pick up the cards from where ever you set your pinky to be.
Message: Posted by: mark334 (Dec 19, 2006 03:28PM)
It says, In the course of the shuffle ,when the card is to be jogged,move the right hand towards the body , draw off one card with the left thumb then move the hand back to its former position and continue the shuffle in the usual way. the card thurs jogged should rest on the little finger tip, I'm just struggling with this.
Message: Posted by: xformer7 (Dec 19, 2006 03:57PM)
Your left pinky does not "get under" the injogged card. It is already in position to start with. Your left hand grip should have the pinky behind the pack during the shuffle, and it then feels the injogged card when it is placed.

I think your trouble rests with your normal grip.

Hope that helps.
Message: Posted by: Josh the Superfluous (Dec 19, 2006 04:38PM)
Xformer is correct. Look at the description of how Royal Road recommends holding the deck in the left hand before the shuffle begins. The pinky helps keep the left hand packet square as cards are peeled on to it.
Message: Posted by: ToasterofDoom (Dec 19, 2006 05:21PM)
The one trick that I've learned was to keep the bottom stack squared up, and the top "shuffled" portions just a bit messy. That allows a clear distinction of the two halves, and also hides the injog really well. The method to that is, as mentioned, using your pinky and thumb to hold the cards squared up.
Message: Posted by: DomKabala (Dec 20, 2006 04:09AM)
You might want to read this as there is some excellent advice given here by scorch...
http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=166240&forum=2

Cardamagically,
<<<KRaZy4KaRdZ>>> :)
Message: Posted by: atucci (Dec 20, 2006 07:38AM)
Mark - KRaZy4KaRdz has provided you with a wonderful link on the detail one could get into on a single sleight.

Don't get confused or intimidated by the variety of opinions. Scorch's thinking is sound and with all due respect to Mr. Ortiz, I have heard many do not enjoy his style of presentation. That being said, Mr. Ortiz' advice is also sound.

Since I've just returned to magic and am concentrating on cards, I'm using the Card College series as my primary textbooks but supplement them with other classics like Royal Road to Card Magic, Expert Card Technique, some of the Vernon/Ganson books, Harry Lorayne, etc.

KRaZy4KaRdz has advised me on several occasions to use any book as a guide, but ultimately I need to find the technique which works best for me.

In my own online documentation of my return to card magic (The Beginners Diary @ http://www.cc-magic.co.uk) I am posting today on how getting the pinky break to work consistently for me took over a month. I couldn't believe how a 'simple' utility sleight took me so long to learn but once I accepted there would be some moves that would feel and look natural almost immediately and some that will take forever, I was at peace every time I practiced.

Hope this helps and good luck

Tony Tuccillo
Sebastian, Florida
Message: Posted by: DomKabala (Dec 20, 2006 07:57AM)
Tony, sometimes the simple things in life are the biggest stumbling blocks. Glad to hear you are progressing in your re-entry in card magic. That same block is just another piece to be used in your reconstuction. Without a strong foundation the building will not be solid and longlasting. The break is a difficult sleight to do deceptively and practice is necesasry to make it look natural. Giobbi gives excellent advice in C.C. vol I and I know you have been digesting this as we speak. Keep up the good work and the rewards will be reaped when the time has come. Time is the one commodity that cannot be retrieved, so make the best of your time. Have a great Christmas Holiday and stay in touch my friend.
Cardamagically,
<<<KRaZy4KaRdZ>>> :) :xmastree:
Message: Posted by: mark334 (Dec 20, 2006 12:02PM)
Cheers for the great advice