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Topic: Tossed Out Deck
Message: Posted by: parsimagic (Jan 21, 2007 05:39PM)
I have a strolling gig next weekend and I am considerind using Tossed Out Deck by Cody Fisher. I would be working for tables of 4 to 7 people. This version of the TOD has 3 spectators each peek/choose a card. What are some opinions of using this effect in a table hoppping setting?
Message: Posted by: Futureal (Jan 22, 2007 01:56AM)
It's illogical.

Why would you wrap a deck in rubber bands and have people peek in it in a situation like this when you can physically hand them a deck, or have them fan it out and look at a card?

The reason why the deck is in rubber bands is (supposedly) because it's being tossed from person to person from the stage.
Message: Posted by: eddieloughran (Jan 22, 2007 10:19AM)
Nor can the card peekers know each other;
otherwise they may compare cards. Why ask them to stand ? if they are sitting together.
Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (Jan 22, 2007 11:04AM)
Wrong trick for that kind of situation. Period.
Message: Posted by: ChristopherM (Jan 22, 2007 11:16AM)
It's to be performed for a large group or a crowd, not a handful of people. Otherwise it gets exposed upon performance. Too much of that happening these days. Please don't try to work it in a strolling gig. Cheers.
Message: Posted by: Bill Abbott (Jan 22, 2007 11:54AM)
Parsimagic,

The Octopus Deck was designed for this very scenario.
You can perform it strolling OR on stage.
Check out the details (and a reduced price!) at http://www.thecentertear.com
link is:
http://www.thecentertear.com/full/Magic-Tricks-Magic-Books-Magic-DVDs-The-Octopus-Deck-Bill-Abbott__3703.htm

Cheers
Bill Abbott
Message: Posted by: Eddie Torres (Jan 22, 2007 01:19PM)
You do this on a table of 4 to 7, as soon as you walk away it's gonna be like "so what card did you have?"
Message: Posted by: parsimagic (Jan 22, 2007 04:37PM)
I tend to agree with everyone's comments, Bill thanks for the info on the octopus deck. Can a spectator freely shuffle the deck?

One reason I thought about using this effect in a strolling environment is that Richard Osterlind uses his Radar Deck (a similar effect) in a strolling environment, and even when audience members pick the same card he plays that up as showing "similar personality traits" between the audience members. It seems to work for him.
Message: Posted by: Bob Sanders (Jan 23, 2007 01:19PM)
Parsimagic,

I like your attitude. You did not get support for using the tossed out deck but you did get good and honest advice. Sometimes things just don't fit.

We get new "toys" and are anxious to show them. However, audiencs don't usually know what is new or difficult. They just want to be entertained. In this case perhaps the Invisible Deck would come to the rescue again and it can be repeated with a different card, if necessary. The trick is just a vehicle to please an audience. Give them the best entertainer that you can. This is about how we make them feel, not what we feel.

You'll get plenty of chances to do rubberband magic some other day.

Hang in there and enjoy your magic. Keep us posted on how it works.

Bob Sanders
Magic By Sander
Message: Posted by: parsimagic (Jan 23, 2007 06:43PM)
Bob

Thanks for your support. I just want to give a good performance. Hopefully things will go well for me this weekend.

Kia Parsi
Message: Posted by: Ringo (Feb 16, 2007 01:34PM)
I fully agree with "the wrong effect for this situation"... But...
I know that Wayne Dobson did this at a table for only three people...
Message: Posted by: Allan Olive (Feb 16, 2007 06:30PM)
I may be wrong here, but for a smaller group like that wouldn't an effect with a "radar deck" or something similar be more appropriate and give you a similar result?
Message: Posted by: Ringo (Feb 17, 2007 06:19AM)
Indeed...