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Topic: Something confusing
Message: Posted by: bku (Jan 27, 2007 10:08PM)
Hey guys,

I have been doing mentalism for a couple of years, but I have never seen a simple trick like this. I went to this hypnotist show today and just before he started hypnotizing people, he did a few esp tricks. One trick however, confused me A LOT; I cannot stop thinking about it. The magician asks a spectator to just think of a card. Then after confirming that the card was not a face card, the magician writes the card down and it matched the spectator's thought up card. The spectator never wrote it down or even hinted that his card was the eight of hearts. Do you guys have any idea what this trick is called? Thanks.
Message: Posted by: Magical Dimensions (Jan 28, 2007 12:20AM)
Did the spectator tell the magician what his card was right before the magician turn the notebook around to show his prediction?


Ray
Message: Posted by: Utkarsh Sinha (Jan 28, 2007 02:28AM)
Did he show the cards to the spectator? If so, it could be the riffle force or the thought force.
Message: Posted by: bku (Jan 28, 2007 10:45AM)
Ray,
No before the spectator even names his card out loud, the magician already wrote the predicted card down and showed it to one side of the audience; I was there and I saw it.
Message: Posted by: MagicSanta (Jan 28, 2007 12:01PM)
People don't typically recall things the way it really happened. This is why they say magic occurs in the mind of the spectator. I've a feeling you will respond strongly and negatively to the above statement but that is the way it is.
Message: Posted by: bku (Jan 28, 2007 12:26PM)
MagicSanta,

I strongly agree with you but I have yesterday's show video taped. I watched it again today but I still don't see how he could of "read my mind." The only statements he said were, "Just think of any card, don't tell anyone or write it down just think of it; it was a number card, is that correct?" Then, he wrote the card down, showed it to one side of the audience. Later, he askes the spectator to name the card and it matches the predicition he made. Has anyone seen a trick like this?
Message: Posted by: MagicSanta (Jan 28, 2007 01:51PM)
There are a few different methods, I can think of three off hand ranging from a not always accurate try to dead on. I can tell you this...he didn't read his mind!
Message: Posted by: Alex Linian (Jan 28, 2007 02:29PM)
I think he hypnotized the person to think of the 8 of hearts
Message: Posted by: frenchmagi (Jan 28, 2007 02:42PM)
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On 2007-01-28 13:26, bku wrote:
MagicSanta,

I strongly agree with you but I have yesterday's show video taped. I watched it again today but I still don't see how he could of "read my mind." The only statements he said were, "Just think of any card, don't tell anyone or write it down just think of it; it was a number card, is that correct?" Then, he wrote the card down, showed it to one side of the audience. Later, he askes the spectator to name the card and it matches the predicition he made. Has anyone seen a trick like this?
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Put it up on youtube so we can see what you're talking about.
Message: Posted by: Alex Linian (Jan 28, 2007 02:44PM)
I think he hypnotized the person to think of the 8 of hearts.
Message: Posted by: Tony Iacoviello (Jan 28, 2007 03:33PM)
What a minute, did I read that right?
You taped someone's act?

Unless the performer says that you can do that, it is wrong.
Posting it on the web as was suggested is equally wrong.

Tony
Message: Posted by: eheng (Jan 28, 2007 04:50PM)
I don't know how the performer that you saw worked but there have been others who had a similar effect involving pre-show work. Did the spectator looked shocked or only surprised?

If I wanted to present this I would talk to a couple of people before the show and find out if they had a lucky number or favorite card. Then the revelation has the potential to have dual meanings, one to the spectator and another to the audience.
Message: Posted by: eheng (Jan 28, 2007 04:51PM)
I don't know how the performer that you saw worked but there have been others who had a similar effect involving pre-show work. Did the spectator looked shocked or only surprised?

If I wanted to present this I would talk to a couple of people before the show and find out if they had a lucky number or favorite card. Then the revelation has the potential to have dual meanings, one to the spectator and another to the audience.
Message: Posted by: bku (Jan 28, 2007 07:46PM)
Hey Tony,

I just want to let you know that the hypnotist gave the club rights to video tape his act so nothing wrong happened. And I want to point out that the spectator was in total shock when the hypnotist showed him the prediction. I wish I could upload the video but its in VHS format.
Message: Posted by: silverking (Jan 28, 2007 08:58PM)
I didn't know there were still any VHS recording cameras left that worked. They stopped making them over 10 years ago.

Anyway, you've not given enough information to answer your question.

Based on your current description it could be a stooge (NO, you wouldn't know about it) or it could be many other things that would require a detail, or details that you're currently leaving out.

BTW, I'm currently thinking of the 8 of hearts.
Message: Posted by: Alex Linian (Jan 29, 2007 12:49AM)
HE HYPNOTIZED THE AUDIENCE MEMBER TO THINK OF THE 8 OF HEARTS!
Message: Posted by: Paolo Venturini (Jan 29, 2007 12:23PM)
The spectator was his brother!!
Message: Posted by: MagicSanta (Jan 29, 2007 12:50PM)
I'm getting a feeling that he may have hypnotized the guy to think of the eight of hearts.