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Topic: Strolling for Caribbean resorts
Message: Posted by: blink_inc (Feb 12, 2007 10:04AM)
Hi all,

I have done a few searches and read whats out there regarding this subject, however am looking for more comments, experiences and feedback.

My goal is to take a few routines to the Caribbean resorts offering positive magical experiences to those staying in resorts.

Ideally 2 hours of walk around per day 5 days a week from resort to resort...but that is all yet to be fully planned.

I am interested in hearing from anyone that has done this, where they did it and what their experiences were.

I have been practicing and routining for just over a year for six hours a day. I have invested in the key books as well as many DVD's trying to put together 4 10-15 minute routines. I do a little bit coins, little bit cards, little bit mentalism to create and all around experience (including a 20 min kids routine).

Anyone have anything to share?
Message: Posted by: Dannydoyle (Feb 12, 2007 10:34AM)
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On 2007-02-12 11:04, blink_inc wrote:
Hi all,

I have done a few searches and read whats out there regarding this subject, however am looking for more comments, experiences and feedback.

My goal is to take a few routines to the carribean resorts offering positive magical experiences to those staying in resorts.

Ideally 2 hours of walk around per day 5 days a week from resort to resort...but that is all yet to be fully planned.

I am interested in hearing from anyone that has done this, where they did it and what their experiences were.

I have been practicing and routining for just over a year for six hours a day. I have invested in the key books as well as many DVD's trying to put together 4 10-15 minute routines. I do a little bit coins, little bit cards, little bit mentalism to create and all around experience (including a 20 min kids routine).

Anyone have anything to share?
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I work for some of the largest resort companies in the Carribean. Playa del Carmen Mexico.

I don't believe you will get the money you are looking for or will need to pull it off. The rooms are a premium. So unless you plan to provide your own place to live, your own transoprtation, my feeling is that they won't find walk arround magic worthwhile.

Mind you I feel differently personally, but when they have to give up someone who pays $800 a night for the room, it is not cost effective.
Message: Posted by: Paolo Venturini (Feb 12, 2007 12:19PM)
I agree with Dannydoyle.

I did some strolling magic in Dominican Republic on resorts but I was paid from the company...
Message: Posted by: blink_inc (Feb 12, 2007 01:18PM)
I plan on living on the island 6 months a year, providing my own transportation and housing.

I am only looking to make $150-200 US per day.

maybe it is out of reach......which is why I ask for past experiences...
Message: Posted by: Daryl -the other brother (Feb 12, 2007 01:27PM)
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On 2007-02-12 11:34, Dannydoyle wrote:

I work for some of the largest resort companies in the Carribean. Playa del Carmen Mexico.

I don't believe you will get the money you are looking for or will need to pull it off. [/quote]

Danny, may I ask what you did differently that made it work for you?
P.S. Please don't yell at me for asking what I am sure will be a silly question. ;)
Message: Posted by: Dannydoyle (Feb 12, 2007 01:38PM)
Not a silly question at all.

The way to do it differently is to find an entertainment provider in the area. ONE who speaks the language, and 2 who has access.

The second is as important as the first. The all inclusive resorts I work for won't even allow you on the property. You can't just "drop in" on them. It is tough. It is a new idea.

Now I live in Playa, for stints, and I do the hypnosis show. I do the close up for something to do more than anything.

The "entertainment" department, will probably not have the money to do what you want to. Certainly the restaurant will not. The entertainment department has nothing to do with the restaurants. The budgets don't crossover.

What I did differently, is I do the hypnosis show. Then when I was already having dinner at the resort with the entertainment directors, I did some close up. The guests watching and laughing, and well you can see how it went from there.

I don't do the magic for anything but fun. It may be easier to climb the Matterhorn with no arms, than to try to get them to part with that much money for dinner entertainment. I hope this works for you. It is a great idea. The DR is a great place, the company has 2 resorts there and are beautyfull!
Message: Posted by: Daryl -the other brother (Feb 12, 2007 02:11PM)
Makes perfect sense Danny, Thanks. Playa del Carmen is a beautiful place. My wife and I have stayed at the resorts there several times.
Message: Posted by: blink_inc (Feb 12, 2007 04:19PM)
I can see what you are saying as I have been to riviera maya more than once. The resorts there are structured differently than the island that I am planning on targeting.

More laid back, open, and the beaches are not necessarily at the resort. Entertainment is lacking and I know this because I have been to the island 3 years in a row. Different scenario.

Thanks for sharing the mexican experience. The resorts there are not quite my style for some of the reasons you shared.
Message: Posted by: Dannydoyle (Feb 12, 2007 09:17PM)
Believe me when I tell you that almost every resort shares the same formula.

My first bit of advice that may be encouraging or helpfull, is this. Go to one that is NOT all inclusive, which is tough to find any more, and 2 go to one which is owned by a much smaller company. As competition heats up, that is far tougher to find.

Also try to have many things to offer. A show at night for a full evening gig. A daytime kids thing. That may make you more attractive to them.
Message: Posted by: blink_inc (Feb 13, 2007 09:26AM)
Thanks Danny,

I am considering a 20-30 min show for the kids. Maybe as part of their daily activities.

This is a few years away so lots of time to plan and prepare.

The island of St. Kitts has only one large all inclusive type resort, the others are smaller, generally independently owned and old carribean style, so they may see the value add.

We are also planning two other businesses that we will operate on the island, so this is not our only source of income.