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Topic: Paint Can Surprise by Devin Knight
Message: Posted by: Harv (Feb 14, 2007 07:39AM)
Sounds interesting.....check out Hocus Pocus for the description (since they don't allow you to cut and paste from their site.)
Message: Posted by: Christopher Williams (Feb 14, 2007 07:42AM)
http://www.hocus-pocus.com/magicshop/products_detail.cfm?item=8187 is the exact link

The most anticipated Devin Knight trick is now available. This trick has been one of Devin's most commercial effects. Magicians worldwide have clamored for Devin to release this. The wait is over.

Paint Surprise is one of the most original and unique ideas ever created. Based on an early idea from John Moyer, Devin Knight has taken the borrowed ring effect to a NEW level.

Performer asks to borrow a ring from an audience member. You state you will MARK the ring so it can be identified later on. You bring out a can of black spray paint and begin to shake it, stating you will mark the ring with some black paint. The audience howls with laughter at this point. As you shake the can, they hear the metal ball inside the paint can mixing the paint, it's a loud clanging noise. Suddenly, the noise changes to a softer tingle!

What? Something is wrong. You look over at the ring, but the ring is NO MORE. In your otherwise empty hand is the metal ball from inside the paint can. Could it be the person's ring is now inside the can? You shake it again and everyone can hear the ring inside the can. No longer is the clanking sound of a metal ball heard inside the can.

Magician says not to worry, there is a hole in the can and he can remove the ring that way. Removing the cap, you point to the hole in the nozzle and say you'll magically dissolve the ring and spray it out of nozzle. Yeah, right.

Picking up a blank index card, you spray a small black circle on the card. You now vigorously shake the paint can. Not a sound is heard inside -- nothing at all. This part alone is very baffling to any audience. You state that the black circle contains the ring material and will now return it to the spectator. Whoops, they need to sign for their ring. You hand them a pen and say sign your name on the card right under the circle.

You state that when the paint dries it will revert back to the ring. The signed card is then waved in the air to dry the paint. You then fold the card into quarters and show it COMPLETELY FLAT. Suddenly the card begins to swell as though something is inside. You ask the person to hold out their palm and the ring falls from the folded card.

Hand them the card to unfold. The black paint circle has vanished but their name is still signed on the card. They can keep the card to show to their friends.

Baffling beyond words and one of the strongest effects in Devin's show. Something they talk about long afterwards. Comes with special paint can, supply of index cards, metal paint balls and complete directions showing you everything you need to know. Easy to do with no difficult sleight of hand.

IMPORTANT FACTS:
NO REFILLS TO BUY
NO Real paint is used (although it appears to be) so no paint fumes
NO MESS
BONUS EFFECT INCLUDED: This is from Devin's strolling work and he uses it in strolling gigs all the time. Show a quarter, have it examined. Take it back and it becomes soft and pliable. In fact you start to bend it back and forth showing how easily it bends. Finally you take the soften quarter and roll the quarter into a little metal ball which you drop into the person's hand. You use the metal paint ball that comes with this trick to do the above effect. Explained in full detail.

I ordered this effect this morning as soon as I saw it was available, can't wait for it to arrive!!!
Message: Posted by: APC (Feb 14, 2007 09:30AM)
I have been waiting for this thread for a long time to appear! Sounds SO GOOD! I always love Christopher's reviews so I can't wait to see what you think...may have to pick this one up!
Message: Posted by: Devin Knight (Feb 14, 2007 10:01AM)
Yes the trick is actually made up and shipping this week. NO DELAYS. I know this trick of mine has been talked about for years and people have been waiting for it. This is one of those things that was almost TOO good to release. I really in all humility think this is one of most best releases. Probably the most commercial and very unique as far as the premise. Sure Glass Box was great but everyone doesn't do headline predictions.

This is one trick I predict WILL NOT go into your drawers. This is a KEEPER that most of you will put into your shows. Once you see the audience reaction to this you will never want to leave it out. This has been in almost every show I've done in the last 9 months. It's that strong and the method is very ingenious.

I had the paint cans professionally made for this trick so the quality is the highest possible. Many of you will have this in hands next week so I look forward to your comments. I've never been more excited over any release of mine, as I am with Paint Surprise.

The method is so clever it's one of those things you want to show them how it works because it is so clever. However, please restrain yourself. You guys and gals will have a lot fun playing with the paint can.

The most amazing thing is that NO REAL PAINT is used, so there are NO REFILLS and no mess. Yet the audience apparently sees and hears the circle being painted on. I love it!

Regards,
Devin
Message: Posted by: Nick-V. (Feb 14, 2007 10:55AM)
Sounds like a LOT of fun!!!
Message: Posted by: Devin Knight (Feb 14, 2007 12:34PM)
Yes more fun than any human being should be allowed to have.
Message: Posted by: APC (Feb 14, 2007 12:37PM)
Haha, is there a video?
Message: Posted by: Devin Knight (Feb 14, 2007 01:20PM)
Not yet, but one will be made soon. My priority is getting this to the dealers. After the shipments go out to dealers, I will send a video to dealers. Although this is already selling well without a video just based on the description.
Message: Posted by: Christopher Williams (Feb 14, 2007 01:26PM)
It's Devin, you don't need a demo, you know it will be as good as it sounds
Message: Posted by: magicinsight (Feb 14, 2007 01:31PM)
I will be ordering mine as soon as I clear my driveway of this snow and ice. New York ice is hard as rock.

Michael
Message: Posted by: Christopher Williams (Feb 14, 2007 06:32PM)
[quote]
On 2007-02-14 11:01, magicbuilder wrote:
Yes the trick is actually made up and shipping this week. NO DELAYS
[/quote]

So roughly when will Hocus Pocus have them to ship as that is where I have ordered from??? Just so roughly I know how long I have to wait! I'm so excited about this one!
Message: Posted by: Devin Knight (Feb 14, 2007 07:34PM)
I am shipping them 100 tomorrow, some are going Priority mail, some 3 UPS day and the rest UPS ground. So bottom line is they will have some to start shipping on Monday and Tuesday, The balance of the shipment will arrive on Thursday. All orders to them should be going out next week as the trick is packed and ready to ship to them.
Message: Posted by: Mercury52 (Feb 14, 2007 10:32PM)
This sounds really cool! I'm very very tempted to pick it up... My wallet is hating me lately...
Message: Posted by: Harv (Feb 15, 2007 06:49AM)
Devin...had a question for you but can't send you a PM..........???????
Message: Posted by: Nick-V. (Feb 15, 2007 10:04AM)
On order, looking forward to it!
Message: Posted by: Magicsquared (Feb 15, 2007 10:43AM)
There are some great lines in that ad, but my two favorites are:

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On 2007-02-14 08:42, Hocus-Pocus wrote:

Paint Surprise is one of the most original and unique ideas ever created.
[/quote]

That's a stretch.

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Hand them the card to unfold. The black paint circle has vanished but their name is still signed on the card. They can keep the card to show to their friends.
[/quote]

And what could be more exciting to show your friends than a blank card with your signature on it?

I'm not suggesting this is a bad trick; it may be great. I'm just suggesting Hocus-Pocus needs a new copywriter.
Message: Posted by: magicinsight (Feb 15, 2007 11:45AM)
[quote]
On 2007-02-15 11:43, Magicsquared wrote:
There are some great lines in that ad, but my two favorites are:

[quote]
On 2007-02-14 08:42, Hocus-Pocus wrote:

Paint Surprise is one of the most original and unique ideas ever created.
[/quote]

That's a stretch.

[quote]
Hand them the card to unfold. The black paint circle has vanished but their name is still signed on the card. They can keep the card to show to their friends.
[/quote]

And what could be more exciting to show your friends than a blank card with your signature on it?

I'm not suggesting this is a bad trick; it may be great. I'm just suggesting Hocus-Pocus needs a new copywriter.
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With all due respect, there are many effects utilizing an "OTL" principle (I am not saying that this particular effect uses such a method)which leave a very strong impact with the spectator since the card that they initially signed changed in some way while retaining their signature. Also, this is just one facet of a multi-phased routine which builds upon each preceding phase to, I think, a powerful, entrtaining and magical conclusion.

Best regards,

Michael
Message: Posted by: Devin Knight (Feb 15, 2007 11:51AM)
The idea of a ring penetrating a paint can, dissolving, being sprayed out into a black ring,which dries and turns back into the borrowed ring is a NEW and UNIQUE idea. This concept has never been done before.

It goes far beyond the old borrow a ring and reproduce it. This a new effect using a borrowed ring. Saying it is one of the most unique ideas to come out isn't a stretch as nothing even close to this effect has been done on the past.

Respectfully,
Devin Knight
Message: Posted by: hoodrat (Feb 15, 2007 12:38PM)
This effect sounds great, but I'm not interested in it at all (borrowed ring effects aren't my thing). I do own a few of Devin's other effects, however, and they are all great and top-notch! I'm sure this one is just as good. As always, you will be able to count on receiving a very well-written and detailed instruction booklet with this effect. Devin's effects always have very, very good instructions. Keep up the good, creative work, Devin!
Message: Posted by: Devin Knight (Feb 15, 2007 03:20PM)
Yes, 18 pages of directions come with this, complete with photos showing every phase.
Message: Posted by: magicmind (Feb 15, 2007 04:16PM)
Will this be available through murphys for other dealers to carry?
Message: Posted by: Devin Knight (Feb 15, 2007 04:25PM)
In time, but for right now only Hocus Pocus has it.
Message: Posted by: Magicsquared (Feb 15, 2007 04:59PM)
[quote]
On 2007-02-15 12:51, magicbuilder wrote:
The idea of a ring penetrating a paint can, dissolving, being sprayed out into a black ring,which dries and turns back into the borrowed ring is a NEW and UNIQUE idea. This concept has never been done before.

It goes far beyond the old borrow a ring and reproduce it. This a new effect using a borrowed ring. Saying it is one of the most unique ideas to come out isn't a stretch as nothing even close to this effect has been done on the past.

Respectfully,
Devin Knight
[/quote]

Uou misunderstood my criticism, I wasn't saying the trick isn't unique, I was saying this sentence is meaningless and bad, amateur ad copy.

"Paint Surprise is one of the most original and unique ideas ever created."

The most original and unique idea ever? Let's see. There was the wheel, and then the theory of relativity, then Paint Can by Devin Knight.

Again, I'm just saying it's poor writing not a bad effect.

But with something that is theoretically this visual and "original and unique" you have to wonder why there isn't a demo video for it. In this day and age you can create a demo video and have it online in literally minutes. The only reason not to put up a demo video is when an effect doesn't look as good as it sounds.
Message: Posted by: Nick-V. (Feb 15, 2007 05:57PM)
"Yes more fun than any human being should be allowed to have."

Looking forward to it.
Message: Posted by: Christopher Williams (Feb 15, 2007 06:08PM)
[quote]
On 2007-02-15 17:59, Magicsquared wrote:

"Paint Surprise is one of the most original and unique ideas ever created."

The most original and unique idea ever? Let's see. There was the wheel, and then the theory of relativity, then Paint Can by Devin Knight.

Again, I'm just saying it's poor writing not a bad effect.


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It says 'One of' not THE most original ideas. If it said THE most original idea then I would sort of start to understand your point, but it says 'One of' the most original ideas, which I believe is true
Message: Posted by: Nick-V. (Feb 15, 2007 08:16PM)
Good eye there Christopher.
I guess that is why you are not only a member here, but on staff as well.
Keep up the good work. :)

HP sent me a shipping confirmation ALREADY, so it's in the mail.
This truly sounds like a lot of fun.
I'll let you guys know when it arrives.

That's for sharing this Devin.
Message: Posted by: Chris Oberle (Feb 16, 2007 01:30AM)
Devin would you recommend this just for stage or could you do this for close-up?

Thanks
Chris
Message: Posted by: Devin Knight (Feb 16, 2007 02:14AM)
Although I designed this for stage you can do it close up, even one on one if you wished.
Message: Posted by: Magicsquared (Feb 16, 2007 11:03AM)
[quote]
On 2007-02-15 19:08, Christopher Williams wrote:
It says 'One of' not THE most original ideas. If it said THE most original idea then I would sort of start to understand your point, but it says 'One of' the most original ideas, which I believe is true
[/quote]

This is a ridiculous argument. It's bad copywriting. Deal with it. You don't call a magic trick, especially one that follows a standard plot (ring to impossible location), "one of the most original and unique ideas ever." First off, you can't modify the word unique with most. It's a discrete adjective so you don't apply comparatives or superlatives to it. Second, it's a big world out there, filled withed marvelous ideas; if this is truly "one of the most original and unique [sic] ideas" you've ever seen, you need to get out more.

But let's not argue semantics anymore.

The real issue is, has there been a REALLY good visual effect released in the past few years that didn't have a video demo? I can't remember one. Use your head. If this looks as good as you feel it sounds, then a video demo would only increase sales and it would be the FIRST thing anyone with any marketing sense would create. As I said, a serviceable video demo could be created and uploaded in 20 minutes, if that.

I'm more than happy to be proved wrong about this. I hope it turns out to be a great effect and everyone is happy with it.
Message: Posted by: Devin Knight (Feb 16, 2007 11:27AM)
Everyone doesn't have a video camera to upload a video within minutes. I agree a video for this trick would be nice and would increase sales. A video is forth coming. I have a friend who has the camera and software coming over next weekend. At that time a video will be made.

Devin
Message: Posted by: Christopher Williams (Feb 16, 2007 12:28PM)
[quote]
On 2007-02-16 12:03, Magicsquared wrote:
[quote]
On 2007-02-15 19:08, Christopher Williams wrote:
It says 'One of' not THE most original ideas. If it said THE most original idea then I would sort of start to understand your point, but it says 'One of' the most original ideas, which I believe is true
[/quote]

This is a ridiculous argument. It's bad copywriting. Deal with it. You don't call a magic trick, especially one that follows a standard plot (ring to impossible location), "one of the most original and unique ideas ever." First off, you can't modify the word unique with most. It's a discrete adjective so you don't apply comparatives or superlatives to it. Second, it's a big world out there, filled withed marvelous ideas; if this is truly "one of the most original and unique [sic] ideas" you've ever seen, you need to get out more.



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I wasn't trying to start an arguement, just purely correcting a fault in one of your comments.
Out of curiosity...do you think you could do a better job as the copywriter? If so...can you perhaps re-write it? I hope that hasn't come across sarcastic, I really mean it.

Though, would you prefer it said something like 'Not one of the most original ideas to be released, in fact, it's based on all old principles used before that you will all be able to find somewhere else, but Devin has decided to be nice and put it all together for you to save you time and effort'. I don't think so... the job as an advertiser and marketer is to sell their products. They are trying their best to sell their products, and so make things sound amazing to make people interested. That is why all products being released have the same kind of beginning texts. 'Truly one of the best, most novel ideas ever to be devised'. They use this because it makes you interested already, you think to yourself 'Is it??? Really??? I've got to get me one of these'. Rather than 'Here is just another bog standard ring in impossible location effect, this is basically what happens guys...'.

Anyone see the point? I have found and I am sure everyone else who has bought something else from Devin will agree that when the effect is written, it looks as it reads to the word. With some people, I agree, it could sound too good, or sounds weird etc, but with Devin, you know it will play as it reads
Message: Posted by: Devin Knight (Feb 16, 2007 12:36PM)
For the sake of argument, I had HP change the line in question to: One of the most unusual effects created.

I don't think anyone can find fault in that statement because spraying a dissolved ring out of can is unusual.

Christopher is right, copy is written to create excitement about a new effect. I always try to make sure my copy reads as it plays, even though it sounds impossible at times.
Message: Posted by: Roth (Feb 16, 2007 12:49PM)
Jumbo shrimp.










I think your idea is the most almost unique most nearly unusual effect I've almost am about to purchase. :)
Message: Posted by: magicinsight (Feb 17, 2007 07:05AM)
I will be receiving Paint Can Surprise by Wednesday. I will post an extensive review by Thursday or Friday. While it looks like a great routine, my only initial complaint is that if my wife sees me with a paint can she may get the wrong idea and ask me to start painting the house. Thanks a lot Devin.

Michael
Message: Posted by: Nick-V. (Feb 17, 2007 06:22PM)
[quote]
On 2007-02-17 08:05, magicinsight wrote:
my only initial complaint is that if my wife sees me with a paint can she may get the wrong idea and ask me to start painting the house. [/quote]

HaHa That is FUNNY!
:)
Message: Posted by: Devin Knight (Feb 19, 2007 02:34PM)
Just an update. Hocus Pocus has on their website that my trick is IN STOCK NOW. The first shipment arrived today. For those who don't like presales, well the wait is over and HP has them.
Message: Posted by: Chris Oberle (Feb 19, 2007 08:12PM)
Cant wait!
Message: Posted by: Chris Oberle (Feb 20, 2007 10:10AM)
Devin would you recommend this just for stage or could you do this for close-up?

Thanks
Message: Posted by: Devin Knight (Feb 20, 2007 10:12AM)
Works either way, but I like this for a smaller stage effect when you have say 50 to 100 people in the audience. It can be done on a large stage as the effect is easy to follow and I've used it for over 500 people to great response.

Devin
Message: Posted by: Nick-V. (Feb 23, 2007 12:58PM)
Devin,

I just received mine.
Everything looks genuine (even the extra splatters of paint near the nozzle). :)

Clever method. Love the props. You guys did a nice job making these.
It's clear that you put a lot of effort putting this package together.

Kudos!
Message: Posted by: Devin Knight (Feb 23, 2007 02:04PM)
Nick, I am glad you enjoy this. Yes we put a lot of work into making this trick so everything looks like the real thing. This is one of my favorite releases. Thanks for the positive comments.

Devin
Message: Posted by: The Great Stevini (Feb 26, 2007 11:42AM)
I'm thinking about getting Paint Can Surprise. Nick-V. says it looks good, but has anybody tried it out? Thanks.
Message: Posted by: Devin Knight (Feb 26, 2007 12:47PM)
I know some people who have this and will be posting reviews but they will most likely post in the Review section since this trick is now officially on the market.
Message: Posted by: Devin Knight (Mar 1, 2007 02:16PM)
Here is a link to the first review
http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=199871&forum=109&4