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Topic: Mixing Flourishes with Magic
Message: Posted by: ScottF. (Jan 11, 2003 10:55PM)
Many flourishes can easily be mixed in with magic, like for example, fans and spreads to have a card selected and things like the hotshot cut to reveal a card. But other flourishes like the Leno Cut and Double Arm Spreads seem almost too flourishy to use during a magic act. Does anyone use these flourishes along with magic and how do you make sure they fit in along with the magic.

I hope that made some sense. :dizzy:
Message: Posted by: KC (Jan 12, 2003 01:47AM)
I like to do the more flashy flourishes in between card tricks. Kind of like an intermission of sorts. And it gives you a short break to assess the lay person(s) and decide what trick to do next.

Or think of it as a time out during a basketball game, and the flourishes are the cheerleaders doing amazing things to keep the crowd's attention. While you, the magician, have time to get the next play ready. That is, if you are doing flourishes to spice up your magic act.

Some of the more complex flourishes will NOT fit into an "Oil & Water" or "Out of this World" routine because they are not supposed to fit in a magic trick. Doing the more complex flourishes in and of themselves is an art form by itself. I suppose you could use the double arm spread to show that the spectator correctly identified all the red and black cards. I don't recommend doing that, it's a bit excessive for the routine.
Message: Posted by: Stick Man (Jan 12, 2003 04:38AM)
I do them for when they are to pick a card, when they're looking at their card or when I have a break in the trick for patter.

My favorite pick a card at the moment is the cascade (encyclopedia of card flourishes)
All they have to do is tell you when to stop. :bluebikes:
Message: Posted by: ScottF. (Jan 12, 2003 11:25AM)
Thanx for your replies KC and Stick man.
Message: Posted by: Darrin Cook (Jan 15, 2003 03:04PM)
Darwin Ortiz adresses this subject in "Scams and Fantasies." He basically says that there is no problem with magic and overt displays of skill in the same show; it's just that you shouldn't let the flourishes interfere with the magic.

For example, if a card has been selected, and returned to the deck, a fancy shuffle or cut doesn't sell the idea that the card is lost in the deck. A nonchalant, genuine looking shuffle and cut would be more effective.

Critical points in the effect where you are demonstrating a card's value, or the number of cards, or their colors, would not be a good time for flourishes. If the idea is to show five red cards, a flourish might distract from that, and prevent the audience from focusing on an important idea necessary to the effect.

Ortiz mentions using flourishes between effects (like KC does). I've read of a past master who used to leave the stage doing a difficult flourish in each hand as a climactic end to his show and an applause-getter.