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Topic: Sight Unseen Case
Message: Posted by: Alan Munro (Jan 25, 2003 04:51AM)
This is great! I especially like the possibilities it presents for billet predictions. One could even use use small objects, such as coins, as prediction items. Use the case with a swami gimmick, and you have a great combination.

A business card is difficult to put into the case, for the peek. It requires considerable practice to avoid bending the card. A great solution is to make-up a heavy laminated card, smaller than a business card, that could be written on using a grease pencil or dry-erase marker; it could have a black border that would make it silly to write in the unpeekable area. I wish I could fit more business cards into it.

Questions or comments are appreciated. I know that I'll be using this, a lot!
Message: Posted by: hkwiles (Jan 25, 2003 05:24AM)
Hi Alan.

I agree with you. Did you get the Unseen Edition as well?
It is a good utility item and I think it is quite easy to come up with ones own ideas for it.
Yes another section on each side would be better although it may be that the handling
wouldn't be as quick, as you would have to make sure you had the right slot- if you
know what I mean ?
The only comment I could make is that it does seem a little pricey for what it is.But then again - most things are simple once you know.A bit like - you pay the plumber for knowing what to do, not for what he does!!

Howard :rotf:
Message: Posted by: Alan Munro (Jan 25, 2003 07:34AM)
I didn't get Unseen Edition, at least not yet. I did get "Miracles From the Hip" and I especially liked the ideas on indexes.

As for the price, I thought SUC was reasonable, considering the ideas that were in the instruction booklet.
Message: Posted by: hkwiles (Jan 25, 2003 08:08AM)
Did you get yours direct from Mark? I also bought his RTW but not tried it out yet.

Are you familiar with any of his other offerings ? i.e, The Ultimate Invisible Brainwave Deck.

Message: Posted by: Necromancer (Jan 25, 2003 08:22AM)
I agree -- it's a great device. If it's more pockets you want, there's always the SUC II. For more about the two of them, here's a thread that might interest you:
Message: Posted by: Alan Munro (Jan 26, 2003 01:48AM)
I bought mine from Hocus-Pocus. There was a lot of other stuff that I also wanted to buy from them. I figured that I might as well have it on the same order.

I haven't tried much of the stuff on an audience, yet, but I look forward to it.

I appreciate the additional info.
Message: Posted by: Gary (Jan 26, 2003 02:45AM)
Alan, once you are comfortable with SUC, you'll never leave home without it. It is a truly invisible tool and has countless possibilities to assist in the preformance of extraordinary feats.

Message: Posted by: p.b.jones (Jan 26, 2003 03:14AM)
If you are a magician too, then you will find it useful as a card to wallet device also.
I put two elastics around the case widthwise and carry it in my front trouser pocket. A mercury folded card is now easy to load.
Message: Posted by: mindhunter (Jan 26, 2003 08:55AM)
I own a SUCII and the extra pockets really are useful..To add to the above, it can also be used to ADD cards to the top of the deck:

For a nice little routine, take four cards (i.e. Blue) from a deck and commit them to memory. Load them into the "ACTIVE" side of the wallet. Get a card with a red back that matches the fourth card and load it into the other side of the wallet.

Have the spec. shuffle the deck and table it. Place the wallet on top as you say that you have a prediction card inside. As you start to open the wallet to show the face down red card, strip out the blue cards adding them to the top of the deck. Give them the wallet and turn away.

As they turn over the 3 top cards you can discern them with whatever mentalism premise suits you best. The FOURTH card will match the red card in the wallet. Done.
Message: Posted by: zeroG (Jan 26, 2003 12:25PM)
Great effect, Mindhunter!
Thanks, I really like it.
I'm really new to mentalism and as such haven't used my SUC yet. I'm waiting to get comfortable with the presentation needed to make the effects with it as strong as possible. Also I think that many of the effects offered by Mark Strivings call for some reading or the use of a swami (two things that I still have to put some work into) for good misdirection. I mean anytime you are doing billet work there has to be strong misdirection to make it come off as mindreading IMO. But your effect is something that I'll be able to do right away. I hope that you wrote to Mark to tell him about it.
-Greg (Zero G)
Message: Posted by: Joshua Quinn (Jan 26, 2003 02:58PM)
Another magical application: I've started using mine in Deep Astonishment, both for gleaning the spec's magic word (which I never have them say out loud) and for producing the cards. A happy coincidence about having the business card with their word on it in the active side: not only does it not get in the way of the playing cards, but it actually makes it easier to get them into place.

Message: Posted by: mindhunter (Jan 26, 2003 03:04PM)
Not a bad application there Quinn.
ZeroG: Thanks-The routine suits me well. I'm not sure if Strivings is going to put out another booklet of effects for the case or not. It really is a great utility item.
Message: Posted by: Steve Hoffman (Jan 27, 2003 12:22AM)
I have the SUC and think it's excellent but I agree with Alan that it's not easy to slide a business card in, so as to get a peak. I'm referring here to a situation where, e.g., the spectator has written something on the back side of the card and I simply want to place the card back into the wallet (but to do so on the "active side" so that part of it is exposed so I can get a peak). Because of the "hem" in the leather the card does not slide through the gimmicked side easily. In practice, I'd say I get it to slide through perhaps 2/3 of the time.

Mark Striving's writings on his SUC stress that he originally developed it for the purpose of loading billets or cards from the outside in (such as billets or cards that the magician has written on, using PW or some other method). Certainly, sliding a card from the outside in works smoothly.

Any suggestions for sliding a card from the inside out?

Steve Hoffman aka Steven Stranger
Takoma Park MD :hamburger:
Message: Posted by: leondo (Jan 27, 2003 12:28AM)
I have many, many shows on 2 SUC's, and I carry my SUC 11 daily (for a couple years-version 1 longer)
I found that a small piece of clear scotch tape over the seam eliminates the problems and I've never had to replace it.
For what it's worth,
Ted (Leondo)
Message: Posted by: Alan Munro (Jan 27, 2003 09:22AM)
I made some laminated cards for use with SUC, for peek work; it's like a tiny slate. Works well with either a dry erase pen or a grease pencil. There is a border formed by the laminant, around the card, as well as a printed border on the card. This helps to make sure that the card doesn't have to be repositioned, just to peek it. I had the back of the card printed in black to make it opaque. The card is smaller than a business card, so it fits into the pocket without fumbling.

I used a pencil grip as a cap for the grease pencil so that it doesn't soil my pocket.
Message: Posted by: Talisman (Jan 27, 2003 04:46PM)
which one of the two versions do you recommand for peeking effects ? which one handle business cards better ?

Talisman , Israel
Message: Posted by: Necromancer (Jan 27, 2003 05:18PM)
Great tip, Ted (Leondo)! I just modified mine accordingly.

Talisman: the SUC II has more pockets to hold more cards (but some performers prefer the clean look of the original SUC). They are both equally suitable for peeks.
Message: Posted by: 1908 (Jan 27, 2003 07:31PM)
At the end which is the best version to buy?The first or the second one?Also is there any difference to the things you can do with the SUCII or it is the same principle with a different look of the wallet?I searched for SUCII and i did not find it...Where i can find it?
Message: Posted by: Alan Munro (Jan 28, 2003 08:20AM)
Email Mark Strivings at markyapril@aol.com. He should be able to give details on SUC II.
Message: Posted by: 1908 (Jan 28, 2003 02:46PM)
I have allready emailed him in the past but still did not get any answer...can you tell me the basic difference between the sucI and sucII?Can you perform more routines with sucII?
Message: Posted by: hkwiles (Jan 28, 2003 03:01PM)
Mark is a full-time performer and often out and about.
Be patient and keep trying.

Howard :wavey:
Message: Posted by: zeroG (Jan 28, 2003 03:05PM)
The only difference between the two is that the SUCII has 2 extra places to put business cards. Everything else is identical. It's a very simple utility item that doesn't need any improving! The SUCII can hold more stuff, that's it.
Message: Posted by: hkwiles (Jan 28, 2003 03:10PM)

That's just about what Mark said when I e-mailed him same question.

If your new to mentalism get SUC1