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Topic: Good Gospel
Message: Posted by: foxygrandma908 (Jul 10, 2007 11:07AM)
What is a good book or video for gospel magic? I am preforming for kids 6-11. I want good strong effect with a good strong message...
Message: Posted by: DavidKenney (Jul 10, 2007 12:17PM)
How about the .....bible? No seriously, a 'good strong message' is going to be the best if YOU write it - and that it comes from your heart, and your life. Maybe find a way to tell your testimony. God gave you a witness and it is just as effective as any other. But it becomes so much more powerful because it comes from you.

As far as magic goes - remember, you still need to be age appropriate. You can't do Harry Anderson's Needle Through the Arm, or Andrew Mayne's scary tricks.
Message: Posted by: Steve Varro (Jul 10, 2007 12:54PM)

Any of the 12 Gospel Trick series by Del Wilson. After the first two came out we agreed to publish them without question, because we new the quality of routuine would be there. Del hasn't dissappointed us.
Message: Posted by: foxygrandma908 (Jul 10, 2007 11:39PM)

by message I meant that the trick had a good message behind it. I don't want to do bowling ball from briefcase and call it Gospel magic. I was think like Maynes trick where he draws a light on a pad and then turns the light on. and using it for some thing like "Jesus is the light, and you need to share the light". its a weekly thing for the same kids.


Thanks I will definitely check them out.
Message: Posted by: Terry Owens (Jul 11, 2007 09:29AM)
I would recommend David Ginn's lecture notes as well as DVD of the lecture that he sells pertaining to Gospel Magic. It will give you several routines and a lot of good thoughts. The site is http://www.ginnmagic.com

Also, if I can be of any assistance please let me know. I've travled across the US doing Kid's Krusades majoring with gospel magic, so I can help you put together something.

God bless!
Message: Posted by: DavidKenney (Jul 11, 2007 04:29PM)
Foxy - oh I understand what you are saying, and I still say - a 'good strong message' is going to be the best if YOU write it. You are asking if there is someone else's material out there you can use. I'm saying look at the magic you own, or perform and ask how they could be used to express the Kingdom. A bowling ball out of a suitcase could be used to talk about how Jesus was a God and King who came from an unexpected place (a manger, a blue collar family...)etc
Message: Posted by: Terry Owens (Jul 11, 2007 05:03PM)
Hmmm...I may have to go by Bowling Ball from Sketch pad now...nice thought David.
Message: Posted by: foxygrandma908 (Jul 12, 2007 10:54AM)
alright I think I understand what you are saying. I will start doing that. I just need a jump start and some guidelines.
Message: Posted by: foxygrandma908 (Jul 12, 2007 10:58AM)
Thanks Terry I will also check those out.
Message: Posted by: DavidKenney (Jul 12, 2007 02:21PM)
Good to know my theology degree is being used for SOMETHING - ha ha
Message: Posted by: Lash (Jul 12, 2007 09:37PM)
I personally don't have these but I have heard that they are good, and that is the Tarbell Gosepl Editions for Tarbell volumes 1 and 2. Also check out Doc Haley and Duane Laflin or even Barry Mitchell might have some good stuff on their websites.
Message: Posted by: magic4jc (Jul 18, 2007 10:28PM)
Duane Laflin is my hero!!!!!!

You will find tons of useful Gospel routines in his books and DVDs.

While I agree with David, that YOUR own routine is best for you, I also understand that you are seeking a few examples as a guide.

I have many ideas that could use props you already own with a gospel message. If you would PM me with some of the effects that you already use, I will be glad to try to share a gospel application for those effects.

Sometimes what we need are a few examples to get the ball rolling!

I'd be glad to help you in PM.

Also, tmowens has some amazing clips on youtube to give you some ideas.

Because He Lives,
Message: Posted by: DougTait (Jul 20, 2007 10:46AM)
Duane Laflin's book, "Greater Gospel Magic" is, in my opinion, the best resource available for anyone who does or is contemplating doing Gospel Magic.

There are specific routines in the book, but more important Duane points out the reason for this genre, some Do's and Don'ts and some spiritual precautions involved with presenting the Gospel through magic.

It is a bit pricey, but I think it is the best investment a serious Gospel magician could make.
Message: Posted by: Rodney Palmer (Jul 20, 2007 11:42AM)
Doug, I am not sure if you knew that Duane's book is O.O.P. and is very hard to find. It is a Great book if you can find it.

Message: Posted by: John Long (Jul 21, 2007 11:32AM)
I second the vote for Laflin's Greater Gospel Magic. I convers important concepts, history, and specific routines (often using props you already own). Sadly, it is out of print, but you may find a used copy if you look around, and advertise on the Café (that's how I got my copy earlier this year). You can also expect to pay a premium for it.

The Del Wilson "12" series are also good. They are just the tricks with a gospel message, no theory, history...

There are two books called Spiritual Appication for Tarbell 1 & 2. They just give the patter, you need Tarbell 1/2 for the method. In my opinion, you are better off with just the Tarbell books and your bible; essentially all of the gospel routines in there seemed weak/contrived.

Message: Posted by: Steve Varro (Jul 29, 2007 02:16AM)
Yes, Duane's Book "Greater Gospel Magic" is out of print. However for the serious buyer we do have two autographed copies for sale.( Warning they are expensive, but when they're gone they're gone).

Just go to the book section at http://www.gospelmagic.com.

Barry Mitchells "The Magic of Thinking Creatively" (while not Gospel, is also a fantastic book

Steve Varro
Dock Haley Gospel Magic Co.

P.S. You'll find the other books mentioned on this thread there also.