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Topic: Ben Harris revolutionises the card levitation - Enlightenment
Message: Posted by: gitty (Jul 22, 2007 05:05PM)
I know that Ban Harris' upcoming [b]Enlightenment[/b]is already a part of a topic here but I think he must have his own one!

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On 2007-07-21 19:15, Ben Harris wrote:
Hi Harv,

I learned my lesson. The earplug (used in Alida to float a card)was too way out for magicdom in general. Plus, the spectator could not look under or lift the card. That was the biggest fault - the spectator could not look at [b]their[/b] whim.

One of my personal targets when creating Cosmosis: The Original Floating Match, way back in 1986, was that the spectator be able to "take the floating match out of the air."

Since that time, I've wanted to do the same thing with larger objects. Cards specifically - because I love card magic.

20 years later, the solution is at hand. The spectator may grab the floating card and look under it. They find nothing attached to the card. They find nothing under it. It's performable with most brands of playing card, is instantly repeatable and can be performed surrounded. If you're the kind of performer who is happy to leave home with a deck or two in his pockets, then you will be set to perform this new effect at any time. It is [b]so[/b] practical it's scary.

Full info is now available at http://www.wowbound.com
[b]video demo available[/b] at wowbound.com (as appearing in Volume 1 of [b]Reel Magic Quarterly[/b])


No earplugs with the new effect, promise.

Ben
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On 2007-07-21 21:18, Ben Harris wrote:
Hi guys,

Thanks for your interest.

I will try and refrain from any more comments because this will not be out for a little while. We cannot release the method until all the legals are sorted.

Quite seriously, the Floating Card application is just the tip of the iceberg. This will revolutionize micro-levitation. I know that's bold and brassy to say, but I've looked for this for 20 years, as have others.

A major problem with non-thread levitation has been solved, practically. And, it's so simple and "just right" that people will wonder "how can THAT have taken 20 years?"

Well, it takes 20 years because you examine every possible avenue. Every angle. Over and over until little variations mutate into fully fledged ideas and you go off on a new direction. 20 years later you "see" something new - fully formed - in your head. It's the result of all of those years churning the possibilities over and over in the mind. And, it ends up being so simple, direct and "right" you kick yourself.

So, anyway, enough of my ramblings. I really sound "full of myself." I don't mean to, I just get excited!

If you register at http://www.wowbound.com we'll be sure to advise you of any updates and the release of the INFO pack in the near future.

Cheers

Ben
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Please, visit his website and watch the first demo of [b]Enlightenment[/b]!
Maybe something BIG is coming?
Message: Posted by: MagicBrent (Jul 22, 2007 05:41PM)
In the spectator's hands is fantastic...and when she picked it up herself, WOW!!!!
Message: Posted by: knickz4lyfe20 (Jul 22, 2007 07:42PM)
Since purchasing hole in the head, I don't know if I could ever buy a ben Harris product again
Message: Posted by: Cameron Francis (Jul 23, 2007 08:50AM)
Yes, but that demo looks feakin' amazing!
Message: Posted by: cosmicsecret (Jul 23, 2007 03:21PM)
Indeed,it looks very good and the point that the spectator can grab the card out of his levitated status is great and one of the biggest selling points for this effect.
If it will be practical enough its gonna be a winner ;)
Looking forward for more info about the effect!
greetings from germany
Jerry
Message: Posted by: VcosNJ (Jul 23, 2007 04:34PM)
Yep, I signed on the list to hear the latest updates on this. I agree with all the posters here. Having the card levitate in the spectator's own hand is freaking powerful stuff.
Message: Posted by: Hansen (Jul 23, 2007 09:06PM)
Yes, this one looks very, very promising! Can't wait for more info.
Message: Posted by: meyegr (Jul 24, 2007 06:23AM)
We need this like we need a hole in our head :rotf:
Message: Posted by: flekka (Jul 24, 2007 11:19AM)
Whenever I try to register for the update I get a e-mail failure message,
i.e it does not reconise the address, !!!!
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Jul 24, 2007 03:11PM)
Hi flekka,

Just send an email to ben@wowbound.com and I'll register you.

Cheers

Ben
Message: Posted by: flekka (Jul 24, 2007 05:18PM)
Ben,
Thank you , have done that,
john.
Message: Posted by: Jerome Finley (Jul 24, 2007 06:39PM)
Ben,
It's beautiful! "So practical it's scary", you say? You have my attention.

Best,
J.
Message: Posted by: sleight king (Jul 25, 2007 03:51AM)
Here we go again......
Message: Posted by: jonxodus (Jul 25, 2007 12:26PM)
Watching the demo is like watching real magic, just to good to be true. Cant wait
Message: Posted by: sleight king (Jul 25, 2007 04:41PM)
Like hole in the head and all of the other bad stuff that is put out by ben Harris.
Message: Posted by: THEGUY26 (Will Swanson) (Jul 25, 2007 04:42PM)
What don't you like about it?
Message: Posted by: jonxodus (Jul 26, 2007 03:11AM)
I don't have hole in the head and don't know how it works, but I heard a lot of bad things about it, nevetheless, people should always be given a 2nd chance=D
Message: Posted by: Marc Frese (Jul 26, 2007 03:57AM)
Everyone should get a 2. chance.
Message: Posted by: gdw (Jul 26, 2007 02:11PM)
Some people consider Mr. Harris to have had his share of 2nd and 3rd chances. I, however, am not one of them.

Especially with Hole in the Head. Even though I do not own it, I DO know what the fuss was about and believe me, what a bunch of bs all the complaining was.

It is some unique thinking, and given the nature of the effect, come on, what did you expect? Double undercuts?
Message: Posted by: gdw (Jul 26, 2007 02:11PM)
I'm looking forward to this one.
Message: Posted by: THEGUY26 (Will Swanson) (Jul 26, 2007 03:02PM)
Everyone should buy Quarks & Quirks, then you will see how creative this guy is with cards. He's invented some of the best stuff out there.
Message: Posted by: gdw (Jul 27, 2007 03:02PM)
I agree. Some great stuff in there that really looks at tearing a card in a COMPLETELY different light.
Message: Posted by: magic168 (Jul 28, 2007 11:24PM)
Didn't Ben Harris put out a "close up levitation" quite a few years back that was basically a piece of clear thin plastic? It was hyped up to be the most amazing thing ever...and then died just as quickly. Anyone remember what I am talking about?
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Jul 29, 2007 05:29PM)
Hi Magic168,

I don't recall anything like you mention. Mike Bornstein had something like you describe as the secret engine to his original Floating Bill. This was/is a wonderful concept too. Check it out if you can.

My own previous close-up levitations have been Alida (hated by many), Etherial Ember, Flight Case, Pyramid Power and, of course, my baby - Cosmosis: The Original Floating Match. This was created and released in 1986 and is still a solid dealer item 21 years later.

All of the above cited effects have been part of the 20 year journey to the current result - "Enlightenment." None of the methods, though, have anything to do with the latest concept. "Enlightenment" is 100% NEW. It has NEVER been used before. The method to accomplish it was non-existant until recently.

There wll be NO HYPE in regards "Enlightenment". It will just be there one day. Those who are interested in following it's progress are invited to do so. That's it.


Cheers

Ben
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Jul 29, 2007 05:34PM)
So looking at the above in a different light it probably means that Cosmosis could be classified as a "hit" and the others, to varying degrees, as "misses."

Ben
Message: Posted by: magic168 (Jul 29, 2007 11:25PM)
Alida! That was it. I remember seeing the ads for it and very excited about the effect until it finally came into the local magic shop and the guy told me to save my money.
Message: Posted by: Chad Sanborn (Jul 30, 2007 03:06PM)
I liked the Alida gimmick. It was small and easy to get into use and to ditch it again. Great for table hopping.

Chad
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Jul 30, 2007 04:03PM)
Thanks for your kind comments.

Guy26 - I appreciate your words. I love topological card magic with just a card or two and there is some really "off the wall" material in Quarks & Quirks.

Magic168 - Alida did polarize opinion. Your dealer's comment is fair enough. And Chad's post (which follows yours) is another example.

Chad - Yeah, Alida is great for table to table. I'm glad you've enjoyed it.

I don't think that there will be any such divide in thought with "Enlightenment." I'm confident that virtually everyone will go "Wow, that is *%#@ing cool!"

I'm sure that almost everyone will be taken by:

1/ the power of the effect as a performance piece
2/ the ease and fun of performance
3/ the method
4/ the possibilities for variation

We'll be putting new video demonstrations up at the website in the near future. These will show full performance with lead in and lead outs so that you can see how practical it is to actually work with this. I may even put up a demo of the "Book of Enlightenment" - see below.

The battle before me is to work out how to best bring this new methodology to market. Remember, the "Floating Card" version is just one of many possible effects that can be performed with the technique. It's just the tip of the iceberg. Imagine levitating a huge examined book - over a pound in weight, or an examined solid steel block? Etc. All possible.

So, do we release a book with all the details? Or do we release a DVD with all the details? Both of these would teach you how to make the effects.

Or, do we release finished, manufactured product? Maybe a combination of both.

Cheers

Ben
http://www.wowbound.com
Message: Posted by: Y2John (Jul 30, 2007 04:47PM)
If whats needed is not easily accessible then I wouldn't mind a fully manufactured product, and a manuscript/book would be fine, maybe with links to helpful vids if needed. DVD would obviously be good but I'd rather have written instructions and a quicker release, though I'm not saying to rush it out.
Message: Posted by: magic168 (Jul 30, 2007 10:08PM)
So here's the big question for you, Ben...what would've happened if the woman did what any OTHER spectator would've done...look UNDERNEATH the card while it was floating in her hand? :)
Message: Posted by: Logan (Jul 31, 2007 01:08AM)
Ben,

If I may, I reckon the best option would be the booklet. The booklet would detail all the different handlings (obviously) and then there will be another chapter with basic routines and the last chapter giving examples of the other possibilities of the gimmick, with reference to the handling section so that we, as readers, would know how to apply the gimmick to other objects.

This is on the assumption that the MO for all the levitations are the same. I wouldn't know but this is merely a suggestion.

I think part of the beauty of magic (and I think you endorse this thinking as well, as I have a copy of your Quarks & Quirks book) is to see what else YOU as a magician can create from one effect. Will you do it like everyone else? Or will you try something new? I always admired the fact that you gave us readers JUST ENOUGH information to go on (in your Q&Q book) and then end the chapter with a question (or questions) as to HOW the routine should end. You never provided an ending and I applaud that. This encourages us, as magical thinkers...to think.

So perhaps, in the booklet option I mentioned earlier, you provide us with just enough information (handling techniques, limitations of gimmick, etc.) to go on and then another chapter with basic routines and then in the last chapter you pose questions and suggestions as to how else the gimmick can be used.

So to those who are contented with basic routines will be satisfied and to those who like to think about how else something can be used are also satisfied. Everyone will have something to chew on.

Just a thought, I already registered for the updates so I can't wait for its release!

Take care Ben,

Logan
Message: Posted by: sleight king (Jul 31, 2007 06:12AM)
Why don't you guys wait 2 weeks until after the release of this and you can get it cheaper off ebay from all of those un satisfied customers.
Message: Posted by: Logan (Jul 31, 2007 09:54AM)
Give it a chance Sleight King.

Why do you choose to focus on his one flop (Alida) rather than give him the benefit of the doubt based on his one hit (Cosmosis)?
Message: Posted by: Joshua Barrett (Jul 31, 2007 11:19AM)
Ben for what its worth, id rather have a book with the details. that also keeps it from usenet/p2p/youtube
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Jul 31, 2007 04:12PM)
Hi guys,

Your feedback is appreciated.

Sleight King - you keep your eye on ebay, you'll be lucky to find an Enlightenment there, but if you do, good luck to you!

Magic168 - the lady DOES LOOK UNDER the card right towards the end of the video.

The spectator's can grab the card at ANY TIME. That is the real strength of this. You have a genuine levitation in that the card floats up and down, all under your control, and the spectators can GRAB the card at ANYTIME. There is nothing attatched and nothing below, just the way it SHOULD be.

As I have mentioned elsewhere, we will post a proper video demonstration in due course. This will show the effect in full flight, from beginning to end, rather than little snippets as per the current video (this was shot to fit everything into 1 minute for Reel Magic Quarterly).

Logan - thanks for your considered thoughts. I love forcing magicians to do their own thinking, as you have noted. People often miss-understand the approach, but I think it's an exciting way to do things.

Joshua - NO explanations will appear on DVD. If there is a DVD then it will be performances and peripheral info only (and would accompany a book of instructions). Will not give the P2P (Pimp2Punter) b*&tards ANYTHING!

Cheers

Ben
Message: Posted by: Joshua Barrett (Jul 31, 2007 04:16PM)
Glad to hear it ben that's very encourages. I like the perfomace only dvd idea. as I feel its the only thing dvd has and should offer
Message: Posted by: oombob (Aug 2, 2007 12:43AM)
I have never failed to be stimulated by Ben Harris' magic. Some ideas have been more practical than others... but I have always find myself engaged and entertained by Ben's thinking and his ever present invitation to "think for yourself".

I'm looking forward to some further enlightenment.
Message: Posted by: Steven Leung (Aug 3, 2007 02:35AM)
[quote]
On 2007-07-31 17:12, Ben Harris wrote:
Hi guys,

Your feedback is appreciated.

Sleight King - you keep your eye on ebay, you'll be lucky to find an Enlightenment there, but if you do, good luck to you!

Magic168 - the lady DOES LOOK UNDER the card right towards the end of the video.

The spectator's can grab the card at ANY TIME. That is the real strength of this. You have a genuine levitation in that the card floats up and down, all under your control, and the spectators can GRAB the card at ANYTIME. There is nothing attatched and nothing below, just the way it SHOULD be.

As I have mentioned elsewhere, we will post a proper video demonstration in due course. This will show the effect in full flight, from beginning to end, rather than little snippets as per the current video (this was shot to fit everything into 1 minute for Reel Magic Quarterly).

Logan - thanks for your considered thoughts. I love forcing magicians to do their own thinking, as you have noted. People often miss-understand the approach, but I think it's an exciting way to do things.

Joshua - NO explanations will appear on DVD. If there is a DVD then it will be performances and peripheral info only (and would accompany a book of instructions). Will not give the P2P (Pimp2Punter) b*&tards ANYTHING!

Cheers

Ben
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Yeah! Do not give P2P (Pimp2Punter) b*&tards ANYTHING!
Message: Posted by: Shodan (Aug 3, 2007 05:45AM)
Looks interesting! I'll defintely be following this one.

For the record, I think a combination of gimmick + booklet is the way to go - at least if you have a decent version of the gimmick included with the effect it can serve as a guide to make your own for the ham-fisted amongst us :)

Ben seems to be picking up a lot of flak on this topic for his past releases. Live in the present guys, and judge each product on its own merits.

Cheers,
David
Message: Posted by: sleight king (Aug 10, 2007 06:15AM)
We havent seen the product yet so we cant give it merit. TOP MARKS TO BEN FOR THE IDEA. ideas are worthless without methods
Message: Posted by: The Mac (Aug 10, 2007 03:10PM)
Any update on this? I hate waiting.
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Aug 10, 2007 04:47PM)
Hi macGyver,

Yes there is a wait. Please just be patent. We'll advise any further info when we have made progress in getting this to market.

Thanks to all those who have registered for further information. Our first info pack will be sent out to you all in a couple of weeks time. We hope to have a few things sorted out by then. For example: will it be a book, a kit, a DVD, or finished, produced product? Or a combination.

Cheers

Ben
Message: Posted by: oombob (Sep 24, 2007 12:03AM)
Any news on this yet Ben?
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Sep 24, 2007 04:40PM)
Perfect timing, oombob!

We've just sent emails to all those registered for updates, and have just updated the website with the latest news.

Briefly, the effect will be released as three parts.

Part 1. A DVD (The Look of Enlightenment)

This will show performances and method basics so the viewer can understand
HOW the principle works and then DECIDE if it is right for them.

Part 2. The Book (Manual of Enlightenment)

This contains history and development of the idea and full details on making your own Floating Card Unit. The book will come with a gimmick and you will need to assemble the complete outfit with basic craft skills. As a bonus, the FLOATING BOOK will be taught. (Hardbound, lavishly illustrated, circa 150 pages)

Part 3. Assembled Unit (Enlightenment: The Ultimate Floating Card)

A completely assembled unit, beautifully boxed with certificate and serial number. Handmade by Ben Harris.

Basically, the idea is that once you've seen the DVD you can decide if you'd like to either make this up using the gaff supplied with the book, OR, on the other hand, purchase the unit fully assembled.

Release date is not yet decided as we're currently negotiating TV rights.

Cheers guys and thanks for your interest.

Ben
Message: Posted by: Review King (Sep 24, 2007 10:51PM)
Has anyone been to Ben's site to see the video demo? My jaw dropped. A SIGNED card floats. The possibilities are limited only by the imagination. I just hope Angel or Blaine don't see the vidoe and buy the rights and it doesn't get released.

BRAVO Ben Harris!!!!!!!!

Ben's site:
http://www.wowbound.com
You can watch the trailer and register for updates. Here's the latest:
__________________________________________________________________________

NEWS (25/9/07)

ENLIGHTENMENT: The Ultimate Floating Card.

Please understand that we cannot offer a firm release date at this time. Television rights are currently under negotiation and the final release of the principle to the general magic fraternity hinges on these contractual arrangements.

However, we are actively preparing the item for release, and this is how we propse to do it. (These plans are not set in concrete, and we do reserve the right to approach this from a different angle if we see fit). That said, the following is looking pretty firm.


After much careful deliberation and discussion it has been decided to release ENLIGHTENMENT as a three-option package.

This is to the end user’s benefit because you will be able to find out exactly how the effect can work for you without an unnecessary outlay.

If you decide ENLIGHTENMENT is for you, then you can progress to the next stage, and so on.

Here’s what we have in mind:

Piece 1: A Look At Enlightenment (DVD)
This DVD will contain performances and handling basics that will allow you to decide if the over-all methodology is for you.
You’ll learn and see the basic principles in action.

The DVD will show you a BEHIND THE SCENES look at the ingenious method.
You’ll see how it is a genuine leap in close-up levitation technology.
You’ll come to understand how it has applications way beyond the FLOATING CARD effect.
You’ll see the variations demonstrated.

Again, the purpose of the DVD is to help you decide if the effect is right for you.
At a projected retail price of a low, low, $9.95 we think that this will supply excellent value for money.
We predict that you’ll be VERY EXCITED when you see the “BEHIND THE SCENES”—when you come to understand the possibilities,
the power of the effect, and the almost “feels-like-real-magic-to-perform” method.


Piece 2: The Manual Of Enlightenment (book)
This oversized and lavish book will teach you the history of the effect, and how to take the included part-gimmick and MAKE your own FLOATING CARD unit.
Profusely illustrated, it will take you step-by-step through the easy-to-assemble-process.

You will also learn how to construct OTHER EFFECTS using the principle.
The book is a complete “how to” and teaches you EVERYTHING you need to know.
You will only need to add basic hobby-like construction skills.

You will need to work for about an hour with glue, cards, scissors and tape. Nothing hard at all.
Once the construction is taken care of, the book then guides you through all the performance and handling details.

You’ll learn how to make a signed card:

1/ float off the deck in your hands
2/ with the deck on the table
3/ when being held by the spectator

Full handling details:

4/ getting in and out of the effect
5/ angles and restrictions
6/ basic handling details
7/ advanced handling details
8/ caring for your Enlightenment unit

As a BONUS, you will be given the construction details of the amazing BOOK OF ENLIGHTENMENT.
The effect has to be seen to be believed. Basically, you make a BOOK, that weighs several pounds FLOAT!
Yes, a spectator places the book on the floor or table, anywhere they like, and you cause it to levitate WITHOUT touching it!
A complete history of the effect and method development will also be included.
This book is being designed to last a life time—to be a strong foundation for the future development of the idea.
So, if you are fairly handy with basic hobby skills, this book option is the most cost-effective way for you to add ENLIGHTENMENT to your repertoire.

Projected retail is $59.95 including part-gimmick.


Piece 3: Enlightenment: The Ultimate Floating Card (assembled)
This is a complete, ready made unit. Hand made by Ben Harris with the ultimate components for the effect.
Complete in beautiful custom printed packaging with instructions on performing the FLOATING CARD EFFECT only.
You also receive a certificate of authenticity and serial number.
As these are time consuming to manufacture it is envisaged that supply will be intermittent.

Projected retail price: $129.00
Message: Posted by: THEGUY26 (Will Swanson) (Sep 25, 2007 10:52AM)
Is it possible to find the parts of the gimmick in stores?
Message: Posted by: Gilgamesh_The_Librarian (Sep 25, 2007 01:44PM)
Ben,

Can you jump straight to the full package or is there a phased release ?

Looks like a great effect.
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Sep 25, 2007 03:33PM)
Hi Gil,

Yes, you can just go straight to the completed, manufactured unit.

It is hoped everything would be released together. The DVD and book will be readily available from dealers, but the finished unit (which will also be available from dealers) may have to be pre-ordered.

I'll be trying to make as FEW of the finished units as possible. It's too much work to be doing these in large quantities!!

Cheers

Ben
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Sep 25, 2007 03:44PM)
Guy 26

When you buy the book, it will be accompanied by a part gimmick. You'll then use basic craft skills, along with the gizmoid, to form a complete Floating Card Unit.

This is relatively easy, the book will be lavishly illustrated and take you step by step through every detail.

You should have everything you need to accomplish this about your home. If you don't, then you'll spend between $5-$25 extra to come up to speed. You'll then be ready to start your own journey of Enlightenment.

When you invest in Enlightenment, you'll be opening a whole new world of possibilities for yourself. This has a zillion applications. You'll spend years exploring the possibilities!

Cheers

Ben
Message: Posted by: THEGUY26 (Will Swanson) (Sep 25, 2007 03:50PM)
Is the part gimmick makeable?
Message: Posted by: Joshua Barrett (Sep 25, 2007 04:10PM)
Ben thanks for making this a book. I hope that tv guy don't hold it up long!
Message: Posted by: oombob (Sep 26, 2007 11:13AM)
I like the concept of making the minimal investment to pre-determine whether the larger purchase is right for me.

This is top of my list right now.
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Sep 26, 2007 07:12PM)
Oombob.

Don't make it the top of your list just yet. It could be a while before it actually hits the market.

We will be posting new video's shortly. What's up on our site at present was a bit of a rush job in order to fill a minute of pre-booked space on REEL MAGIC Vol 1. It was never intended as the "proper, official" video. We'll post the proper, more detailed, video as soon as possible.

Cheers

Ben
Message: Posted by: Joshua Quinn (Sep 27, 2007 10:26AM)
Hey Ben,

You mentioned earlier that the principle can be used to float more than just playing cards. Will the book provide the necessary info and materials to float other things as well, or is it only good for a card?
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Sep 28, 2007 02:39AM)
Quinn,

The book, I'm very happy to say, covers all aspects of the principle including other objects. This book will give you an indepth look at many of the posibilities. You'll be creating your own variatins, too!

My fave non-card version is the "floating book application". Presented in a serious setting, this is way more magical than the floating card. Everyone gets to handle the book, they know it weighs a ton! And, you levitate it without touching it. The spectators then lift the book to make sure that there is nothing beneath it. You DON'T TOUCH the book!

Cheers

Ben
Message: Posted by: Joshua Quinn (Sep 28, 2007 10:18AM)
Sweet! Thanks.
Message: Posted by: emanmagic5 (Sep 28, 2007 11:37AM)
Kinda expensive for a floating card... But then agian it is so amazing and you can do so much with it! I will defently buy the book when it comes out!
Message: Posted by: oombob (Sep 29, 2007 10:35PM)
[quote]
On 2007-09-26 20:12, Ben Harris wrote:

Don't make it the top of your list just yet. It could be a while before it actually hits the market.

[/quote]

Hey Ben... Robbie Knievel called... he wants his profile pic back! :)

Looking forward to some further "enlightenment" whenever it arrives.
Message: Posted by: oombob (Oct 1, 2007 11:10PM)
Oh wait.... Nerdly McAbracadabra on line 2 ...apparently I owe him my profile pic.
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Oct 21, 2007 03:36AM)
UPDATE

Hi everyone. Here's the latest.

1/ Just a quick note to say that new video presentations of Enlightenment will be up at http://www.wowbound.com soon.

2/ RELEASE DATE: Enlightenment will be released and in stores by mid 2008. May/June 2008 is our target. We want this out just prior to the 2008 convention season.

There is a lot of work to put in to bring this to fruition. Register (if you have not already) to be kept up to date. (Those registered will be emailed WHEN the new video is posted).

Cheers

Ben Harris
Message: Posted by: Ustaad (Oct 21, 2007 04:08AM)
[quote]
On 2007-10-21 04:36, Ben Harris wrote:
RELEASE DATE: Enlightenment will be released and in stores by mid 2008. May/June 2008 is our target. We want this out just prior to the 2008 convention season.
[/quote]
:thanx:
Ah! I can now sit back, relax & enjoy my :hotcoffee: :hamburger:
:bubbly: :cheers: Cheers!

and
A very Happy New Year! :xmastree:

When its time give me a :gossip:. I have registered! :)

:goodluck:

Till then :napping:

:xmas:
Message: Posted by: RicHeka (Oct 21, 2007 04:23AM)
[quote]
On 2007-10-21 05:08, Ustaad wrote:
[quote]
On 2007-10-21 04:36, Ben Harris wrote:
RELEASE DATE: Enlightenment will be released and in stores by mid 2008. May/June 2008 is our target. We want this out just prior to the 2008 convention season.
[/quote]
:thanx:
Ah! I can now sit back, relax & enjoy my :hotcoffee: :hamburger:
:bubbly: :cheers: Cheers!

and
A very Happy New Year! :xmastree:

When its time give me a :gossip:. I have registered! :)

:goodluck:

Till then :napping:

:xmas:
[/quote]

:rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
Message: Posted by: Tim Jahn (Oct 21, 2007 12:34PM)
Thanks for the news Ben. I am really looking forward to the release.
Message: Posted by: emanmagic5 (Oct 21, 2007 01:34PM)
That is half a year! I don't know if I can wait that long!
Message: Posted by: Tim Jahn (Oct 21, 2007 01:37PM)
Me either but it sounds and looks like it will definitely be worth the wait.

Tim
Message: Posted by: emanmagic5 (Oct 21, 2007 01:42PM)
Ok, we will have to start a new thread in 6 months! I can't wait either!
Message: Posted by: The Mac (Oct 21, 2007 02:43PM)
I predict this thread will become personal and then eventually someone will post "a scathing truth" after which another person will request for it to be locked.
Message: Posted by: jonxodus (Oct 21, 2007 11:05PM)
[quote]
On 2007-10-21 15:43, The Mac wrote:
I predict this thread will become personal and then eventually someone will post "a scathing truth" after which another person will request for it to be locked.
[/quote]

WOo, new mentalism effect...
Message: Posted by: RooMan (Dec 4, 2007 07:16PM)
Well, I'll get personal then...9 times outta 10, I love Ben's stuff. True, a couple of 'em were clinkers for me but they were the exception, not the norm.
I'm looking forward to this one.

It's the six month wait that's killing me.
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Dec 5, 2007 05:07AM)
Hi Guys,

Best wishes for the upcoming holiday season to you all.

Here is the latest.

Enlightenment release date: May 2008.
TV Rights are being negotiated with great care.
Manufacturing Rights for the non-card applications are under negotiation.

Pricing for the Floating Card Version:

Here are are couple of ideas.

What do you think is the way to go?

1/ 100 only EVER at $1000.00
2/ 1000 only EVER at $100.00
3/ Unlimited quantities of
-- Book (120 pages, history and full construction of Floating Card $39.95
-- Bits N Pieces Pack $19.95
-- Full complete working set (with book) $100.00

Serious discussion and thoughts, please.

Also, would you guys like Enlightenment Floating Cards made with any specific cards? The standard will ship as Blue or Red backed Bicycles.

I'm prepared to make 100 sets in the back design that gets the most votes.

Cheers and Happy Holidays

Ben
Message: Posted by: Joshua Barrett (Dec 5, 2007 07:57AM)
2 or 3 perhaps.... I'm bias as I would never afford the 1 grand version. I can understand 2 limited quantities and not to many.
Message: Posted by: Masonogy1 (Dec 5, 2007 09:38AM)
Number 3 of course...

P.s. Australians rule!!! :)
Message: Posted by: jordanjohnson (Dec 5, 2007 10:45AM)
I like the unlimited not because of the fact that it is unlimited but for the full bundle at $100 would keep this out of the hands of kids that would reveal this but accessible to actual magicians that would use it and respect it
Message: Posted by: palmtreemagic! (Dec 5, 2007 11:59AM)
I think a 39.95 book is reasonable
Didn't you say you would release an inexpensive DVD showing just the basic method to see if the customer would then be willing to make the gimmick and buy the full package?
Message: Posted by: Magiguy (Dec 5, 2007 01:07PM)
I vote for #3, and red backed bikes for me.
Message: Posted by: Merlin (Dec 5, 2007 03:13PM)
I would prefer #2, but would not be very upset with either this one or #3.

The reason is that there are 2 to many low end choices on #3, that the curious seekers could afford, and might not mind spending, just to learn the secret. Especially the one for under $20.00.

And #1 is out of my ball park.

Phil
Message: Posted by: Ustaad (Dec 5, 2007 07:22PM)
[quote]
On 2007-12-05 06:07, Ben Harris wrote:
What do you think is the way to go?

1/ 100 only EVER at $1000.00
2/ 1000 only EVER at $100.00
3/ Unlimited quantities of
-- Book (120 pages, history and full construction of Floating Card $39.95
-- Bits N Pieces Pack $19.95
-- Full complete working set (with book) $100.00

Serious discussion and thoughts, please.
[/quote]

I would suggest option 3(c) i.e. unlimited quantities of full complete working set (with book) $100.00.

The price seems to be just right for [b]ALL[/b] serious performers genuinely interested in the effect.

:xmas:

P.S. Eagerly looking forward to an early release of Enlightenment.
Message: Posted by: RooMan (Dec 5, 2007 07:29PM)
The book would be fine for me...I like the DIY approach personally.
Message: Posted by: Wesker (Dec 6, 2007 06:43AM)
Sell the book along with the completed unit so you can know the history and how to make the gimmick as well as being able to use it right away. If it's too difficult to make the gimmick (Or just plain time consuming), then sell the package in a limited quanity of a thousand sounds best.
Message: Posted by: Tim Trono (Dec 7, 2007 12:41AM)
A month or so ago Ben Harris shared specific details of his Enlightenment effect with me in confidence. It is incredible. This is one of those effects where the method is as cool or better than the effect. When Ben fist described this item with me quite some time ago he advised that it "feels like you are doing real magic". NOW I can see why he said this. Many will assume this is hype and overlook this. If you have such concerns then definitely wait when it comes out for further feedback because it DOES sound too good to be true. The funny thing it is not. Once it hits the market and people SEE how good this is I predict this will become a staple item that will have people talking for years to come. It won't be out for a while as noted in this thread... most likely not until around May or June 2008. But when it comes out I think it will create quite a storm. It's just beautiful.

Tim Trono
Message: Posted by: jordanjohnson (Dec 7, 2007 01:12AM)
I am very excited to hear that it is the real deal Tim!!! Cant wait six months :(
Message: Posted by: The Mac (Dec 9, 2007 06:17AM)
I would also opt for the book.

Ben, how bout another demo, I'm sure you must have some footage you can share.
Message: Posted by: Gilgamesh_The_Librarian (Dec 9, 2007 06:23AM)
Ben,

Have you had the chance to perform this for a real audience. It would be great to see some of the reactions.
Message: Posted by: BlackDove (Dec 9, 2007 12:20PM)
[quote]
On 2007-12-09 07:23, Gilgamesh_The_Librarian wrote:
Ben,

Have you had the chance to perform this for a real audience. It would be great to see some of the reactions.
[/quote]

Of course he has, watch the demo.
This looks great, I'm excited to pick this up!
Calvin Lauber
Message: Posted by: Gilgamesh_The_Librarian (Dec 9, 2007 01:48PM)
[quote]
On 2007-12-09 13:20, BlackDove wrote:
[quote]
On 2007-12-09 07:23, Gilgamesh_The_Librarian wrote:
Ben,

Have you had the chance to perform this for a real audience. It would be great to see some of the reactions.
[/quote]

Of course he has, watch the demo.
This looks great, I'm excited to pick this up!
Calvin Lauber
[/quote]


Thanks for your input Calvin but I have assumed that that was Mrs H or an associate. My question relates to a proper performance so I'll leave it out there. Unless you are Bens spokesperson on this, in which case apologies.
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Dec 9, 2007 07:09PM)
Hi guys.

Yes, of course this can be performed for real people in real circumstances. Footage to come in due course. I spent ten years doing close-up in restaurants, and this is a carry everywhere dream that you can use in the real world. That's why this thing has taken twenty years. It had to be practical. Bottom line.

So, please be patient.

There will be more footage, and there will be lots more details forthcoming.

But, until everything is pinned down (TV rights, release formats, manufacturing rights, etc) I can't give out any further info or media clips. I've even been asked to pull down the existing clip! I'm refraining at present!

I have commitments that must be respected. So, please be cool.

The release date is set and I'm never late (ask any of my clients). Closer to the time of release you will have everything you need to make an informed decision. All will be layed out in front of you.

Thanks for your continued support, all of you.

Cheers

Ben
Message: Posted by: oombob (Dec 18, 2007 03:24PM)
This stays at the top of my list. See you in May.
Message: Posted by: Al Straker (Dec 19, 2007 03:15AM)
Hi Ben,

My vote is for option 2.

Al
Another Aussie.
Message: Posted by: oombob (Jan 18, 2008 12:51AM)
Ben Harris is a very cool guy.

Just needed to be said.
Message: Posted by: THEGUY26 (Will Swanson) (Jan 18, 2008 01:10AM)
I vote for 3, and Ben is cool.
Message: Posted by: Robert M (Jan 18, 2008 11:11AM)
I would purchase the complete full working set and book for $100 - preferably in Red Bicycles.

Robert
Message: Posted by: oombob (Jan 20, 2008 11:36PM)
[quote]
On 2008-01-18 12:11, Robert M wrote:
I would purchase the complete full working set and book for $100 - preferably in Red Bicycles.

Robert
[/quote]

...second that!
Message: Posted by: Review King (Jan 21, 2008 12:58AM)
This sounds right:

Full complete working set (with book) $100.00
Message: Posted by: daffydoug (Jan 21, 2008 03:48PM)
[quote]
On 2007-12-09 20:09, Ben Harris wrote:
Hi guys.

Yes, of course this can be performed for real people in real circumstances. Footage to come in due course. I spent ten years doing close-up in restaurants, and this is a carry everywhere dream that you can use in the real world. That's why this thing has taken twenty years. It had to be practical. Bottom line.

So, please be patient.

There will be more footage, and there will be lots more details forthcoming.

But, until everything is pinned down (TV rights, release formats, manufacturing rights, etc) I can't give out any further info or media clips. I've even been asked to pull down the existing clip! I'm refraining at present!

I have commitments that must be respected. So, please be cool.

The release date is set and I'm never late (ask any of my clients). Closer to the time of release you will have everything you need to make an informed decision. All will be layed out in front of you.

Thanks for your continued support, all of you.

Cheers

Ben
[/quote]

Ben, as far as constructing this yourself..how easy or difficult is that? I'm asking because I purchased "Flight Case", and that was a bear to assemble..so picky in all the little minute adjustments. Plus I looked EVERYWHERE for clear plastic you know whats, and every place I looked I could find nothing but colored ones. I was never happy with the end results.

Please tell me this is much easier to construct.
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Jan 21, 2008 08:02PM)
Hi Daffy dude!

This is a lot easier to constuct. But, you won't be perfect first time. You'll get it working, but you'll be so fascinated that you'll sell everything just to buy time to tweak, improve, adjust, play.

Seriously, the more attention you give the details, the better this is. BUT you can throw it together, roughly, quickly and easily if you wish.

Think of it like a light switch. Anyone can turn it on and off, but dimming it requires greater effort.

Cheers

Ben
Message: Posted by: daffydoug (Jan 22, 2008 05:06AM)
Light switch...enlightenment.....hmmmmmmmmmmm
Message: Posted by: oombob (Jan 27, 2008 10:18PM)
Light switch ...Lights witch ...hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Message: Posted by: daffydoug (Jan 28, 2008 04:33AM)
Which witch lights the lite light switch? Which???
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Jan 28, 2008 04:40PM)
Funny, guys!

Latest --

We are working on having this factory made. Precision work in plastic and brass.
If this all works out, then there will be no book, no self-construction, just a beautifully made gimmick and instructions. The price would come down too. Possibly, $69.95 - complete.

This is not definite, there are still lots of details to sort, but it will still be a May release.

Cheers

Ben
Message: Posted by: daffydoug (Jan 29, 2008 04:57AM)
That wouldn't be too bad. Fair price. Save us the headaches of trying to get it right....I like it.
Message: Posted by: Silvio Solaris (Jan 30, 2008 04:05AM)
Hand it over now and nobody get's hurt ;)
Message: Posted by: oombob (Jan 31, 2008 02:27PM)
Precision work in plastic and brass. Wow... I love the sound of that.
Message: Posted by: daffydoug (Jan 31, 2008 04:33PM)
Brass, yes Plastic..well, it's usually not as durable as the brass. but at least we know the gimmick is not constructed of cardboard or paper. That's a good omen, I'd say.
Message: Posted by: Eddie Garland (Jan 31, 2008 07:07PM)
Exciting!
Message: Posted by: Gilgamesh_The_Librarian (Feb 1, 2008 01:53PM)
[quote]
On 2008-01-28 17:40, Ben Harris wrote:
Funny, guys!

Latest --

We are working on having this factory made. Precision work in plastic and brass.
If this all works out, then there will be no book, no self-construction, just a beautifully made gimmick and instructions. The price would come down too. Possibly, $69.95 - complete.

This is not definite, there are still lots of details to sort, but it will still be a May release.

Cheers

Ben
[/quote]

Blimey !!!

My mind has gone into overdrive now trying to figure out how this may work. One things for certain it doesn't feel like any of the more obvious solutions to this effect.

Count me intrigued X 10 !!!
Message: Posted by: daffydoug (Feb 1, 2008 05:01PM)
Well, it's a brass and plastic device that causes the card to apparently rise..HOWEVER, the device is somehow INVISIBLE, because the spectator can look directly under the card, (unlike Alida,) Ben tells us, and not see it.

Conclusion? Simple. It's an invisible brass and plastic thingy..made of, well, ummm, invisible brass and plastic, what else?

Shoot. You could make this yourself. Just go down to your local hardware store, and ask the man where they keep their invisible brass and plastic.....
Message: Posted by: Shodan (Feb 2, 2008 04:46AM)
"right next to the packets of holes sir"

This sounds like its shaping up to be very interesting - something to look forward to in May!
Message: Posted by: oombob (Feb 3, 2008 12:46AM)
Dang... this one has me hooked. See you in May.
Message: Posted by: Silvio Solaris (Feb 11, 2008 06:08AM)
Honestly you got me now Ben...I thought it was a different method/principle.
Now reading what it is made of and STILL 'permitting' the spectator to touch/remove the card....you got me too...LOL

Very well done Ben!
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Feb 11, 2008 07:50PM)
Gentlemen,

We will have an announcement to make re Enlightenment shortly.

I can confirm that you will receive a precision, factory-made gimmick that is designed to work for the Floating Card application AND for the levitation of dollar bills and other small objects.

Details and a FREE downloadable "Product Specification" will be available within weeks. The purpose of this document will be to fully reveal the scope, breadth and limitations of the product so that you can make an informed decision.

The download will REVEAL the method.

Those registered for updates will be the first to receive notification.

http://www.wowbound.com

Cheers

Ben
Message: Posted by: Michael Peterson (Feb 12, 2008 12:52AM)
This must be good, I can't wait!



Mike
Message: Posted by: Ustaad (Feb 12, 2008 02:27AM)
[quote]
On 2008-02-11 20:50, Ben Harris wrote:
Details and a FREE downloadable "Product Specification" will be available within weeks. [b][i]The purpose of this document will be to fully reveal the scope, breadth and limitations of the product so that you can make an informed decision.
[/i][/b]
[/quote]

That's like a good innovator, manufacturer & a gentleman. You're creating History!

Good luck & thank you Ben!

:xmas:

P.S. See you in May. :)
Message: Posted by: daffydoug (Feb 12, 2008 03:16AM)
[quote]
On 2008-02-11 20:50, Ben Harris wrote:
Gentlemen,

We will have an announcement to make re Enlightenment shortly.

I can confirm that you will receive a precision, factory-made gimmick that is designed to work for the Floating Card application AND for the levitation of dollar bills and other small objects.

Details and a FREE downloadable "Product Specification" will be available within weeks. The purpose of this document will be to fully reveal the scope, breadth and limitations of the product so that you can make an informed decision.

The download will REVEAL the method.

Those registered for updates will be the first to receive notification.

http://www.wowbound.com

Cheers

Ben
[/quote]


What you are doing here may be unprecedented...
Message: Posted by: Review King (Feb 12, 2008 04:52PM)
I have a feeling Paul Harris will be tickled over Ben's creation!

I'm still shocked by the video.
Message: Posted by: KMan1564 (Feb 12, 2008 05:53PM)
Sounds fabulous Ben. Care to drive me around next time I'm in your part of the town? :)
Message: Posted by: RooMan (Feb 17, 2008 12:23AM)
Huh? Wha..? Reveal the method before we buy? Have I stumbled into an alternate universe? That's probably the most amazing thing I've ever read in the Magic Café!
Ben, my hat is off to you and my wallet open.
Message: Posted by: Eric Simmatis (Feb 17, 2008 11:12AM)
Wow! I ccant wait for this...and you reveal it before we buy...amazing and I'm deffently buying this!!!
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Feb 17, 2008 04:56PM)
Hi Eric,

Thanks for your confidence in "definitely buying this."

But, please, the purpose of the upcoming "reveal" will be to give you the info you really need to make that decision. I'm 100% sure you'll want to walk across hot coals for this when you know the method, but I want you and everyone to wait and make an informed decision. There is so much crap out there, you deserve to know exactly what you are buying.

Cheers

Ben
Message: Posted by: daffydoug (Feb 18, 2008 08:23PM)
I have to concur we deserve to know exactly what we are buying with ALL the effects we purchase from any and all dealers..however, in 99% of the cases, we are either outright lied to or at very least only told a fraction of the real truth....or told a half lie.
Message: Posted by: Silvio Solaris (Feb 19, 2008 10:14PM)
[quote]
On 2008-02-17 17:56, Ben Harris wrote:
Hi Eric,

Thanks for your confidence in "definitely buying this."

But, please, the purpose of the upcoming "reveal" will be to give you the info you really need to make that decision. I'm 100% sure you'll want to walk across hot coals for this when you know the method, but I want you and everyone to wait and make an informed decision. There is so much crap out there, you deserve to know exactly what you are buying.

Cheers

Ben
[/quote]

No kidding! There is a lot of crap out there... It is time that we introduce a 'quality control' to magic tricks/illusions.

I think to reveal the method before a purchase is made very courageous and on the other hand shows great confidence and trust to your customers. Nevertheless, and IMHO, I would have everyone sign a non-disclosure before revealing the facts...

I will even buy this without knowing the exact method (although I have an idea after you mentioned the materials).

This is awesome Ben. Very well done!
Message: Posted by: Paul h. (Feb 20, 2008 07:10AM)
When you know a product is good, I think knowing the method will not stop you from receiving (buying) the creators complete work on the subject.

This is a great move on Bens part. Just think if you get the nod on a new product from a dependable source, you would probably pull the trigger sight unseen, so why not go this route.

Can't wait for this one.

Paul h.
Message: Posted by: Ustaad (Feb 20, 2008 08:10PM)
[quote]
On 2008-02-20 08:10, Paul h. wrote:
[b][i]* When you know a product is good, I think knowing the method will not stop you from receiving (buying) the creators complete work on the subject.[/i][/b]

[b][i]*[/i][/b] This is a great move on Ben’s part. Just think [b][i]if you get the nod on a new product from a dependable source, you would probably pull the trigger sight unseen,[/i][/b] so why not go this route.

Can't wait for this one.

Paul h.
[/quote]

Yes, so true!

. . . and one can take a quick decision without waiting for the much puffed-up reviews.

:xmas:
Message: Posted by: RooMan (Feb 24, 2008 01:44PM)
Aaarrrggggh! Doncha just hate the wait?
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Feb 28, 2008 05:18PM)
ENLIGHTENMENT UPDATE FEBRUARY/MARCH 2008


Hello everyone.

This is the latest Enlightenment Update and it will bring you right up to date with progress.

I'd like to thank you all for your keen interest, and for your patience. It has been a long time between communications.

THE VIDEO
We have long promised an updated video. This is still forethcoming, but it's just a matter of finding the time to edit the footage into something compact and concise. The footage needs to work for downloading and for a segment on REEL MAGIC. I simply don't have the time to make numerous versions. We'll make one good version that will suit both needs. It will be done by the time we release the effect.

PRODUCT EVOLUTION
Since the time I officially finished the creative process (which had begun in the mid-eighties) it has been a tough stretch in working out HOW to present the new methodology to the fraternity. This has been a weightier concern this time around because Enlightenment is not just a trick being "put out there", rather it is a genuinely new way of going about things. It will change the way a certain discipline of our art is thought about. It is, what they call, a "Paradigm Shift."

We had originally considered releasing the method as a book only. This would have taught the purchaser HOW TO MAKE the gimmick as well as providing instructions on how to perform the Ultimate Floating Card. The problem with this approach is that someone would probably rip-off the idea and then put out a rough and cheap gimmick. So.it was decided to develop and put into production a profesional, precision gimmick. This also allowed the idea to be developed a stage further making the final gimmick MULTI-PURPOSE. In other words, the refined gimmick will allow the levitation of objects OTHER that just playing cards.

Imagine, for instance, sitting with a spectator and borrowing a dollar bill. After charging the bill with static electricity by rubbing it on her sleeve, you proceed to make the bill FLOAT OFF HER KNEE.

Or, imagine a seance presentation using photographs of deceased movie stars. The photo of a chosen star is placed in the middle of the table. All the spectators sit holding hands in proper seance form. After a suitable build up the photo slowly levitates, hovers, and then falls back to the table. A spectator reaches foward and turns the photo over. A message from the long dead star is found scrawled on it's back!

The possibilities really are endless.

THE GIMMICK
The development of the final gimmick has been difficult, ongoing, and straining of both finances and my mental health. This has come so far in the last three months that it is scary. It is slim, balanced, delicate, tough. It way surpasses anything that you would make at home with card, tape and glue. We're dealing with the control of milligrams of weight and balancing that against a device that must perform thousands of times, over and over. The final gimmick is going into it's first pre-production test run in about a week. It is constructed of plastic and aluminium (not brass as previously advised) and is a thing of beauty. There has NEVER been anything like this before and I promise you, you'll be playing with it four hours, just amusing yourself!

OPERATING MANUAL
Accompanying the gimmick will be an OPERATING MANUAL. This will contain basic operating instructions (how to use the gimmick, how to care for the gimmick, how to practice with the gimmick, and so on). This booklet is photographically illustrated and printed in four languages: English, French, Japanese and Spanish.

THE BOOK
A book of 100 pages: ENLIGHTENMENT: THE ULTIMATE FLOATING CARD is the feature. This book covers the history and development of the new method and then teaches the ULTIMATE FLOATING CARD in full detail. Written in a way that takes the reader throough the creative process, the book will, if read in the right frame of mind, allow the reader to experience the "eureka moment" for themselves. Photo-illustrated, this book teaches all the fine details of the floating card handling and then reveals the real work behind the FLOATING DOLLAR ON KNEE. Designed as a creative primer, the book is the launching pad for generations of creative ideas that this new method will undoubtedly inspire.

RELEASE DATE
Release date is still MAY 1, 2008

DISTRIBUTION
The package will be distributed world-wide and available from all dealers, online or bricks and mortar. (Dealers, contact Murphys magic Supplies)

PRODUCT SPECIFICATION PACK (FREE DOWNLOAD)
During the first week of April we will advise you of the availability of the PRODUCT SPECIFICATION PACK. This is a 24 page downloadable PDF document that will take you through all of the supplied components in detail. Fully illustrated, you will be privy to all you need to know in order to make a purchasing decision. The method will be revealed in this document so that you may see how all the elements fall together and how effective this really is. You will also understand how and why it would feel so magical to actually perform Enlightenment. In fact it feels just like "real magic." You will understand this more fully on a "gut level" when you review the Product Specification in full.

PRICE
The final price is yet to be decided. It will be advised as part of the Product Specification Pack.

So, once again, thanks for your continued interest. Feel free to pass this document along to anyone who you think may be interested.

Sincerely

Ben Harris

http://www.wowbound.com
ben@wowbound.com
Message: Posted by: oombob (Feb 29, 2008 01:59PM)
Precision work in plastic and aluminum. Wow... I love the sound of that.
Message: Posted by: RooMan (Feb 29, 2008 02:21PM)
Cool! I love the seance bit!
Message: Posted by: THEGUY26 (Will Swanson) (Feb 29, 2008 02:52PM)
This shows that Ben really cares about his costumers and putting out great magic.
Message: Posted by: scarnecky (Feb 29, 2008 06:02PM)
Ben,
Your work has always produced mystery with a smile, and I'm looking forward to this charming new creation... "Enlightenment" ...


Scar
Message: Posted by: zoneinfinite (Feb 29, 2008 11:46PM)
Can this levitate ANY card? Or must it be Bicycle cards? Reading Ben's post and seeing that this gimmick can float other kind of objects...I guess it doesn't matter what brand the card is? Can I just bring the Enlightenment gimmick around and float any card?
Message: Posted by: RooMan (Mar 1, 2008 08:46PM)
[quote]
On 2008-03-01 00:46, zoneinfinite wrote:
Can this levitate ANY card? Or must it be Bicycle cards? Reading Ben's post and seeing that this gimmick can float other kind of objects...I guess it doesn't matter what brand the card is? Can I just bring the Enlightenment gimmick around and float any card?
[/quote]


I guess we'll know in April when he reveals all the info!
Message: Posted by: RooMan (Mar 14, 2008 07:55PM)
Tantalizing clues on Ben's web site now. The info pack apparently is coming out in LATE April but a photo of the pack(s)are very cool and touches on the method.
(It's a M.L.P. and you'll have to go see what that means for yourself.)

My mouth is waterin' for sure....
Message: Posted by: Ustaad (Mar 14, 2008 09:41PM)
[b]M L P[/b] - Nice term for the lifter!

[quote]
On 2008-02-28 18:18, Ben Harris wrote:

So it was decided to develop and put into production a profesional, precision gimmick. This also allowed the idea to be developed a stage further [b][i]making the final gimmick MULTI-PURPOSE[/i][/b]. In other words, the refined gimmick will [b][i]allow the levitation of objects OTHER that just playing cards.[/i][/b]
[/quote]

I'm sold!! :)

:xmas:
Message: Posted by: oombob (Mar 14, 2008 11:53PM)
MLP?!!

Dang... and I just sold my microscopic levitating parakeet.
Message: Posted by: Tim Jahn (Mar 15, 2008 05:11AM)
Okay...MLP!!!

If this is what I think it is its going to be awesome!!
I (And I'm sure many others) Have always had an idea about this in the
back of my head but could never quite figure out how to get it done.
In truth... I really didn't know where to start at all!!
There were stability issues and the like.
It sounds like Ben has found the answers that where needed to make this
a reality.

I can't wait!!

Tim
Message: Posted by: RooMan (Mar 15, 2008 09:46PM)
Wow,man...I haven't seen a microscopic levitating parakeet since 1969!
Message: Posted by: Ustaad (Mar 16, 2008 04:05AM)
[quote]
On 2008-03-15 12:53am, oombob wrote:
Dang... and I just sold my microscopic levitating parakeet.
[/quote]

[quote]
On 2008-03-15 10:46pm, RooMan wrote:
Wow,man...I haven't seen a microscopic levitating parakeet since 1969!
[/quote]

I bought one on Mar 15, 2008 at 12:53am. Lucky me!? ;)

:xmas:
Message: Posted by: daffydoug (Mar 16, 2008 08:01AM)
I thought MLP stood for mutilated lever press..... :rotf:
Message: Posted by: oombob (Mar 18, 2008 10:24PM)
Ustaad...enjoy...he sheds a bit when he floats, but he is so small that this is difficult to see.

I remain inexplicably very attracted to this new effect.
Message: Posted by: oombob (Mar 18, 2008 10:43PM)
Well whatever MLP ends up being, I hope that it will prove to be smaller than a box of Wheetabix, unlikely to suck pacemakers through one's ribcage and (hope against hope) won't require that I have to strap it to my leg.

See you in April!!!
Message: Posted by: Ustaad (Mar 19, 2008 12:44AM)
[quote]
On 2008-03-18 23:24, oombob wrote:
Ustaad...enjoy...he sheds a bit when he floats, but he is so small that this is difficult to see.
[/quote]

Oombob, I know, I know!! I had to buy an electron microscope to see him float. He is too good at it. He is such a loving & obedient darling. He has never let me down in any of the performances. I have been getting great reactions followed by many long term contracts. Do you have another one to sell??? ;)

He has a grievance though! He is very annoyed and want's to know the reason as to why you got rid of him? ;) :)

:xmas:
Message: Posted by: Tim Jahn (Mar 20, 2008 12:37PM)
You have to look really, really close at the picture on the site to see what it is. Heres a hint: The first word has to do with what your PK ring is. The second word is what we are trying to do to an object with this effect.

I don't know if we are suppose to come out and say it yet and I don't want to get anyone riled up. Sorry for being so cryptic.

Tim
Message: Posted by: RooMan (Mar 20, 2008 08:39PM)
Since it's fairly plainly visible on the site and a week away from the release of the info pack, I don't think anyone will get riled. On the contrary, it seems to be adding to the excitement. The packaging alone looks cool, as usual for Ben's stuff. Another intriquing thing...the picture of a warranty card?? Wow! That has to be a first!
Message: Posted by: oombob (Mar 21, 2008 11:02PM)
I think we all get what MLP is. It is very exciting to contemplate that Ben Harris has made this principal into something reliable and controllable.

Very exciting.
Message: Posted by: Ustaad (Mar 22, 2008 12:30AM)
[quote]
On 2008-03-22 00:02, oombob wrote:
I think we all get what MLP is. It is very exciting to contemplate that [b][i]Ben Harris has made this principal into something reliable and controllable[/i][/b].

Very exciting.
[/quote]

I agree - absolutely!

:xmas:
Message: Posted by: Tim Jahn (Mar 22, 2008 06:14AM)
[quote]
On 2008-03-22 00:02, oombob wrote:
I think we all get what MLP is. It is very exciting to contemplate that Ben Harris has made this principal into something reliable and controllable.

Very exciting.
[/quote]

OK great!! I thought you guys were serious about not knowing what it meant.
My mistake and I was not trying to make anyone feel dumb and I apologize if it sounded that way.
Just trying to help out.

Yes it is very exciting and I can't wait!!

Tim
Message: Posted by: Review King (Mar 22, 2008 11:52AM)
Ben saw how much I loved Cosmosis and wrote me asking if I'd like to see a small write up on Enlightenment. After watching the demo clip, I had to say yes.

Today I kept reading the write up and watching the demo clip.

Anyone remember John Travolta's movie "Phenomenon"? ( it's one of John's favorite films of his). There were some things he did in that movie that were subtle. He put his hand out and the pen moved. Pages of the book turned. They were very subtle. He didn't raise cars, etc. That's what "Enlightenment" reminds me of: A subtle, unexplainable miracle.

When I first watched the video, I thought "I don't care if there is an elephant behind a curtain waving his trunk, that's an incredible illusion".

Well, no elephant is needed, just a small precision gimmick.

Ben was kind enough to let me take a peek under the curtain. PLEASE do not e-mail me or PM asking for more details. I don't care if you're dating my sister, I'm not at liberty to discuss any details.

In two months everyone can order one if they are interested.
Message: Posted by: Ustaad (Mar 22, 2008 01:27PM)
[quote]
On 2008-03-22 12:52, Christopher Kavanagh wrote:
Ben was kind enough to let me take a peek under the curtain. [b][i]PLEASE do not e-mail me or PM asking for more details[/i][/b].
[/quote]

Knock . . . Knock . . .!

Knock. . . Knock . . .!!

Chris I am knocking at back door! Please let me in. :rolleyes:

No :worry:
 

:(

 
:fruity:

 
:xmas:
 
Message: Posted by: KMan1564 (Mar 22, 2008 01:44PM)
Come on. You have to let Ustaad in...it's Ustaad!
Message: Posted by: Review King (Mar 22, 2008 03:09PM)
I know, I love Ustaad too. But Ben has the key to the back door....

It will be out soon. I only know a little more than everyone. But, I think it's gonna rock.

I still perform Hover Card. Anyone that passed on it because it was a gimmick, missed out because the reactions are jaw dropping. But, there are limitations to it.

With Ben's, the card, as everyone sees in the demo, lifts up while in their hands.

Of course, some folks may not care for it. We all have our likes and dislikes, etc. Ben isn't selling a potion you drink and then you can float stuff. lol. There is a gimmick and hey, some people don't like TT's.

And...it's going to come with a 100 page photo illustrated book. Some folks don't like to read ( I'm dyslexic, and while John Steinbeck can carry me off to distant places, magic books have always made me struggle ).

But, I think this is going to be a monster when it's released. ANYTHING in their hands gets bigger reactions. Have a card transpo while in their hands, it's stronger than finding the card in the deck.

Having an object, like a playing card ( signed and they get to keep it ) lift up in their hands.....it's going to be an incredible moment. As Paul Harris says, that's the time to be quiet and let them absorb the moment.
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Mar 22, 2008 03:22PM)
Hi Everyone.

Firsty, Happy Easter to you all.

Secondly, I have a mailbox full of mail asking "Why did you give Chris a sneak peek, why not me?"

The answer. Chris is VERY active here at the Café. I thought (and still do) that he was the ideal person to look over a draft of the "Product Spec" to make sure I was delivering on my promise to come clean with the method. So, thanks Chris, and I hope no-one kicks in your back door!

We will release the "Product Spec" to all in about 10 days or so. It's getting close. We are also fully on track for the May release.

Cheers and thanks to you all for you continued interest.

Ben
Message: Posted by: KMan1564 (Mar 22, 2008 03:28PM)
I was joking about letting Ustaad in. Just having a little fun. :)

Thanks for the update Ben. Happy Easter to you as well.
Message: Posted by: daffydoug (Mar 22, 2008 03:56PM)
I'm really excited about this. I have put two and two together and figured out what MLP is, but that makes me even more excited that Ben has finally found a way to harness and control this. In other words, he has "tamed the beast."

Ben, you have reached the holy frail, my good man, and we salute you!
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Mar 22, 2008 04:07PM)
"...holy frail"

I'm not THAT old.

LOL

Ben
Message: Posted by: Review King (Mar 22, 2008 04:28PM)
I want everyone to know when Ben offered to let me see some specifics, there were no strings attached or any constraints. He was quite clear that I could write anything I wanted, good or bad. I think anyone that knows me on the Café knows that I say what I feel. For all he knew, I could have read what he sent me and wrote "this isn't even practical. You'd have to have the wind blowing at a certain angle..."

He must have had enormous confidence in his creation to let me look at the write up. After reading what he sent, I can see why he's so proud and confident.

And now...I'll bow out of this until it's released and let folks that get it offer their thoughts. It will be fun to hear about reactions during performances.
Message: Posted by: Corey K (Mar 22, 2008 07:20PM)
I haven't been excited about a magic product in a LONG time...

Enlightenment has me waiting on the edge of my seat. I can't wait to get my hands on this!
Message: Posted by: Ustaad (Mar 23, 2008 07:15AM)
[quote]
On 2008-03-22 17:28, Christopher Kavanagh wrote:
[b][i]"this isn't even practical. You'd have to have the wind blowing at a certain angle..."[/i][/b]
[/quote]

Impractical :worry:

How do I get the wind to blow at an angle? :readingbook: :stuckinbag: :rotf:

:nana:

:xmas:
P.S. Just kidding! ;) :)
Message: Posted by: Review King (Mar 23, 2008 10:07AM)
[quote]
On 2008-03-23 08:15, Ustaad wrote:
[quote]
On 2008-03-22 17:28, Christopher Kavanagh wrote:
[b][i]"this isn't even practical. You'd have to have the wind blowing at a certain angle..."[/i][/b]
[/quote]

Impractical :worry:

How do I get the wind to blow at an angle? :readingbook: :stuckinbag: :rotf:

:nana:

:xmas:
P.S. Just kidding! ;) :)
[/quote]

HAHHAHAHA. I got scared and thought people thought I was saying that was needed. lol. No wind needed.

I was concerned the rights to Enlightenment was going to be bought out by one of the TV guys and we'd miss out on it.
Message: Posted by: oombob (Mar 23, 2008 11:07AM)
[/quote]

OK great!! I thought you guys were serious about not knowing what it meant.
My mistake and I was not trying to make anyone feel dumb and I apologize if it sounded that way.
Just trying to help out.

Yes it is very exciting and I can't wait!!

Tim
[/quote]

Hey Tim... no apologies necessary! Your posts pointed me in the right direction!
Thanks man.
Message: Posted by: Tim Jahn (Mar 23, 2008 01:57PM)
Glad to hear that oombob. Now that I know what it is (Kind of) I'm really more exited than what I was when I wasn't sure. I have a feeling that this is going to be great.

/qoute/
I was concerned the rights to Enlightenment was going to be bought out by one of the TV guys and we'd miss out on it.
/quote/

Ustaad, I was afraid of the same thing when I read something by Ben that said that they were work on the TV rights. I'm not sure who wanted to use it, But I'm glad it worked out so that its still available to us.

Tim
Message: Posted by: Ustaad (Mar 23, 2008 10:46PM)
Hi Tim . . . yes, glad it worked out and is still available to us. We can certainly look forward to getting the effect. :)

Hi Chris, You see how I managed to twist/ turn/ distort/ misrepresent your statement? The entire meaning was changed - just like a politician or a media man does. LOL! :rotf:

:xmas:
P.S. I’m NOT a politician/ media man. LOL!
Message: Posted by: Review King (Mar 24, 2008 12:54AM)
[quote]
On 2008-03-23 23:46, Ustaad wrote:
Hi Tim . . . yes, glad it worked out and is still available to us. We can certainly look forward to getting the effect. :)

Hi Chris, You see how I managed to twist/ turn/ distort/ misrepresent your statement? The entire meaning was changed - just like a politician or a media man does. LOL! :rotf:

:xmas:
P.S. I’m NOT a politician/ media man. LOL!
[/quote]

hahaha. Well done. You have my vote ( as a funny, very cool person!! ).
Message: Posted by: oombob (Mar 25, 2008 12:13AM)
Did it ever occur to you that the name BEN Harris is actually an anagram of

Ha! Bar risen!


Makes you think.
Message: Posted by: oombob (Mar 25, 2008 12:25AM)
Of course "Her Brains" and "Bra Shiner" are in there too... but that's just silly.

:)
Message: Posted by: oombob (Mar 25, 2008 12:32AM)
P.s.

okay... "Ha! Bar risen! ...has an extra "a" in it.


Man....you people have waaaay too much time on your hands.
Message: Posted by: oombob (Mar 25, 2008 09:55PM)
Egads... I have been officially reduced to posting utter gibberish until this gets released.
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Mar 25, 2008 10:08PM)
Oombob,

I like the "Bra Shiner." Must keep it in mind for my next gig at the Playboy mansion.

Ben
Message: Posted by: oombob (Mar 25, 2008 11:50PM)
[quote]
On 2008-03-25 23:08, Ben Harris wrote:
Oombob,

I like the "Bra Shiner." Must keep it in mind for my next gig at the Playboy mansion.

Ben
[/quote]


LOL!
Message: Posted by: Wesker (Mar 28, 2008 01:30AM)
Thank God and all that is good and delicious that this is still going to be available to us and not something we need to try and figure out from someones next TV special.

Everyday May gets farther and farther away...
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Mar 28, 2008 01:45AM)
Hi Wesker,

It's definitely on its way!

The gimmicks are in from the factory and I will check each one personally.

The two books: (Quick Start Manual) and the 100 page "Floating Card Application" will go to press next week. The final week of April will entail packing the sets into their boxes with warranty forms etc.

Next week (first week in April) we will release the "Info Pack" which runs about 25 pages and can be downloaded free from our website. Those who have registered for further info will be advised the minute this is available.

Thanks to everyone for their continued support.

Cheers

Ben
Message: Posted by: IT Magic (Mar 29, 2008 02:00AM)
Months of hype and Ben can't even get a decent video up? That makes me suspicous. The info pack had better be really good.
Message: Posted by: KMan1564 (Mar 29, 2008 11:45AM)
Let me get this straight. You're going to find out about the inner workings of Enlightenment so you can make an informed purchasing decision...and you're still complaining? That's unbelievable.
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Mar 29, 2008 03:30PM)
Suspicious of what, for heaven's sake?

I'll address the video (which is quite frankly the least of my concerns) when I've finished checking all 10,000 gaffs in the first run, when I've finished ensuring that the dies to cut the packaging components are perfect, when I've finished ensuring that the Japanese, French and Spanish instructions are accurate, when I've finished ensuring that the 100 page book is to my satisfaction, when I've finished ensuring that the illustrative photos for the two books (which print on differing paper stock) have had their dot gain and mid-tones correctly adjusted, when I've run the printing plates and delivered them to the printers, when I've ensured that my commitmnet to magazine editors and the likes of (insert big TV star here) are fulfilled, when I've made sure everything is just right.

Gimme a break. I'm sorry if I sound ****ed-off, but some people!

Enjoy your Sunday IT! Sorry that we can't do all of this to YOUR timetable.

Ben
Message: Posted by: Gilgamesh_The_Librarian (Mar 29, 2008 03:42PM)
[quote]
On 2008-03-29 16:30, Ben Harris wrote:
Suspicious of what, for heaven's sake?

I'll address the video (which is quite frankly the least of my concerns) when I've finished checking all 10,000 gaffs in the first run, when I've finished ensuring that the dies to cut the packaging components are perfect, when I've finished ensuring that the Japanese, French and Spanish instructions are accurate, when I've finished ensuring that the 100 page book is to my satisfaction, when I've finished ensuring that the illustrative photos for the two books (which print on differing paper stock) have had their dot gain and mid-tones correctly adjusted, when I've run the printing plates and delivered them to the printers, when I've ensured that my commitmnet to magazine editors and the likes of (insert big TV star here) are fulfilled, when I've made sure everything is just right.

Gimme a break. I'm sorry if I sound ****ed-off, but some people!

Enjoy your Sunday IT! Aplogie that we can't do all of this to YOUR timetable.

Ben
[/quote]


You mean we aren't getting a gimmick in a jiffy bag and a scrappy piece of A4 with barely intelligible instructions on one and a half sides of it ...what kind of business are you trying to run here man !!!!....I demand my barely intelligle instructions and poor packaging...its traditional !!!!
Message: Posted by: Ustaad (Mar 29, 2008 08:08PM)
[quote]
On 2008-03-29 16:30, Ben Harris wrote:
I'll address the video (which is quite frankly the least of my concerns)

[b][i]* when I've finished checking all 10,000 gaffs in the first run,

* when I've finished ensuring that the dies to cut the packaging components are perfect,

* when I've finished ensuring that the Japanese, French and Spanish instructions are accurate,

* when I've finished ensuring that the 100 page book is to my satisfaction,

* when I've finished ensuring that the illustrative photos for the two books (which print on differing paper stock) have had their dot gain and mid-tones correctly adjusted,

* when I've run the printing plates and delivered them to the printers,

* when I've ensured that my commitmnet to magazine editors and the likes of (insert big TV star here) are fulfilled,

* when I've made sure everything is just right.[/i][/b]
[/quote]

Whew! :rolleyes:

You sure need a much deserved holiday after the release of [b]Enlightenment[/b]. :)

:xmas:
Message: Posted by: Shodan (Mar 29, 2008 08:34PM)
Rock on Ben!
Message: Posted by: oombob (Mar 31, 2008 12:20AM)
[quote]
On 2008-03-29 03:00, IT Magic wrote:
Months of hype and Ben can't even get a decent video up? That makes me suspicous. The info pack had better be really good.
[/quote]

Sorry to hear that you have been made "suspicous"... a local pharmacy should be able to supply you with a cream for that.
Message: Posted by: Tim Jahn (Mar 31, 2008 07:43AM)
[quote]
On 2008-03-31 01:20, oombob wrote:

Sorry to hear that you have been made "suspicous"... a local pharmacy should be able to supply you with a cream for that.
[/quote]

:rotf: AWESOME!!
Message: Posted by: Review King (Mar 31, 2008 10:45AM)
[quote]
On 2008-03-29 03:00, IT Magic wrote:
Months of hype and Ben can't even get a decent video up? That makes me suspicous. The info pack had better be really good.
[/quote]

Your from Australia and you can't more polite to Ben, your fellow countryman.

The video showed what this does. He's going to tip the method for everyone before they purchase. What in the world is there to be suspicious about?
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Mar 31, 2008 03:01PM)
Yep, stabbed in the back by a fellow countryman. Sweet.
Same thing happened with Cosmosis!

Today's April 1, so I can't possibly release the "Info Pack" today or you may think it's a joke. Tomorrow or the day after--promise.

Ben
Message: Posted by: THEGUY26 (Will Swanson) (Mar 31, 2008 03:03PM)
Its the 31st in the USA.
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Mar 31, 2008 03:06PM)
Hi Will

Nice try, my friend.

Ben
Message: Posted by: THEGUY26 (Will Swanson) (Mar 31, 2008 03:44PM)
Aww. How much is this going to cost again? $100?
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Mar 31, 2008 04:15PM)
Hi Will,

Originally, that was to be the case. But we've busted our b*lls to bring the price down without sacrificing quality.

-Boxed Gimmick
-Quick Start Manual (English, French, Spanish, Japanese)
-100 Page book: Enlightenment: The Ultimate Floating Card
-Warranty card/info
-Limited Edition Box/packaging

US$79.95

It could have been several times that, but why? There is no need for greed. This is a NEW way of doing things and I'd much prefer everyone have access to it so the idea can grow and develop through your own input, creativity and applications.

Cheers

Ben
Message: Posted by: THEGUY26 (Will Swanson) (Mar 31, 2008 04:49PM)
Wow, that's a good deal!
Message: Posted by: Mercury52 (Mar 31, 2008 04:51PM)
No kidding that's a good deal! Sign me up! Can't wait to see the info pack in a few days!
Message: Posted by: THEGUY26 (Will Swanson) (Mar 31, 2008 05:03PM)
Just wondering, how much weight can this gimmick levitate?
Message: Posted by: Review King (Mar 31, 2008 05:07PM)
This should be selling for much more than $79.95. Of course, there are different schools of thought. The more folks that have access, the more ideas will come from it.
Message: Posted by: evolve629 (Mar 31, 2008 05:43PM)
How much is Part 3. Assembled Unit (Enlightenment: The Ultimate Floating Card).
A completely assembled unit, beautifully boxed with certificate and serial number. Handmade by Ben Harris?
Message: Posted by: oombob (Mar 31, 2008 07:49PM)
[quote]
On 2008-03-31 16:03, THEGUY26 (Will Swanson) wrote:
Its the 31st in the USA.
[/quote]

It's like April 3rd here in Canada.
Message: Posted by: THEGUY26 (Will Swanson) (Mar 31, 2008 08:04PM)
Yeah, and Enlightenment will cost you $150.
Message: Posted by: bekralik (Mar 31, 2008 09:25PM)
Doesn't sound like you've been following the currency markets lately ...
Message: Posted by: dreamadream99 (Mar 31, 2008 09:54PM)
[quote]
On 2008-03-31 17:15, Ben Harris wrote:

...US$79.95...

[/quote]
That is amazing for a technological breakthrough like this. This will revolutionize the micro levitation market.
Thank you Ben, for not pricing it out of our grasp.

signed,
a fan
Message: Posted by: Silvio Solaris (Mar 31, 2008 10:27PM)
[quote]
On 2008-03-31 18:07, Christopher Kavanagh wrote:
This should be selling for much more than $79.95. Of course, there are different schools of thought. The more folks that have access, the more ideas will come from it.
[/quote]

I agree a 100% Chris. This should go for at least $179.95 Hey, I would buy a miracle for that. Ben did a lot of research and experiments to bring us that miracle. A miracle not intended for the youtube- and highschool campus performers.
Message: Posted by: Wesker (Mar 31, 2008 11:06PM)
Yes I easily would have paid three times 79.95 for Enlightenment.

Ben, In the current form this is being released, will we still be able to levitate a book?
Message: Posted by: THEGUY26 (Will Swanson) (Mar 31, 2008 11:16PM)
[quote]
On 2008-03-31 22:25, bekralik wrote:
Doesn't sound like you've been following the currency markets lately ...
[/quote]

I was kidding. It is only about $1 difference.
Message: Posted by: oombob (Mar 31, 2008 11:41PM)
[quote]
On 2008-03-31 21:04, THEGUY26 (Will Swanson) wrote:
Yeah, and Enlightenment will cost you $150.
[/quote]

If this does what B.H. says... I reckon that's a bargain.
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Apr 1, 2008 12:19AM)
Hi everyone,

Here are a few answers to the questions.

Will: As supplied, the unit is designed to accomodate a playing card, business card, dollar bill, or the like. However, if you are clever you can rework it with your own bits and pieces to then use heavier objects. That's the beauty of this, it's a NEW way of creating levitation and I'm just passing along my preferred handlings. A whole world of possibilities will present itself to those creative types out there.

Evolve: Your name says it all! The way we are presenting this has "evolved" since that info was posted. When you download the "Info Pack" you will see an option to order 1 of a 100 limited "installed units." These are available ONLY to the first 100 purchasers of the Boxed set as an optional extra. So, you end up with 2 GIMMICKS --one for varied useage, one custom installed for operation with a Blue Backed Bicycle Deck. The option is $59.95. 100 only.

Wesker: See the answer to Will's question (above). As supplied it won't, but if you're clever you can work it out and make it up.

Hope all this helps.

Cheers

Ben
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Apr 1, 2008 03:38PM)
Sorry,

I posted an error in "evolves'" answer above. The optional add-on is $49.95 and NOT $59.95.

Need some sleep!!

What do you guys think about a support site for Enlightenment? Blog, feedback, forum, support, etc. Good idea or not?

Your feedback would really be appreciated.

Cheers

Ben
Message: Posted by: Review King (Apr 1, 2008 03:52PM)
Ben, I think a forum that's password protected woould be of great value. Something like Bob Kohler does with his products. That way users could share ideas, etc.
Message: Posted by: THEGUY26 (Will Swanson) (Apr 1, 2008 04:59PM)
That would be cool. Hey, is it Apris 2nd in Australia yet?
Message: Posted by: Ustaad (Apr 1, 2008 08:51PM)
[quote]
On 2008-04-01 01:19, Ben Harris wrote:
[b][i]However, if you are clever you can rework it with your own bits and pieces to then use heavier objects. That's the beauty of this, it's a NEW way of creating levitation and I'm just passing along my preferred handlings. A whole world of possibilities will present itself to those creative types out there.[/i][/b]
[/quote]

It seems that with [b]Enlightenment[/b] the possibilities are endless and are limited only to ones imagination! Hence for such a versatile device/ prop, I feel that an exclusive FORUM is a must .

Don't miss out on this alluring device!

:xmas:
Message: Posted by: simcoscor (Apr 1, 2008 10:38PM)
Isn't april 2nd in Australia?
Message: Posted by: THEGUY26 (Will Swanson) (Apr 1, 2008 10:40PM)
Yup.
Message: Posted by: oombob (Apr 2, 2008 12:00AM)
My wife: "Why are you checking the computer every twenty minutes?"

Me: "... well...uh... the info pack for "Enlightenment" may be released soon."

My wife: "What's that?"

Me: "Well... actually it may represent a paradigm shift in playing card levitation and utilises MLP."

My wife: "Ahh..."

(Long thoughtful silent stare from wife.)
Message: Posted by: ferrissteve (Apr 2, 2008 12:05AM)
Yeah, my fiancee as well. she just rolls her eyes and wonders how she managed to say yes to that fateful question.
Message: Posted by: Ustaad (Apr 2, 2008 12:52AM)
[quote]
On 2008-03-31 16:01, Ben Harris wrote:
Today's April 1, so I can't possibly release the "Info Pack" today or you may think it's a joke. [b][i]Tomorrow or the day after--promise[/i][/b].
[/quote]

To make the WAIT more interesting, Ben should not post the 'Info-Pack' on the web-site but send a secret download link to all registered members. ;) :)

:xmas:
P.S. I can see lots of brick-bats coming my way . . . let me duck . . . ;) :fruity:

Ben, Save me . . . Save me . . . Save me please!! :bawl:
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Apr 2, 2008 01:19AM)
Ustaad,

That's EXACTLY what I'll have to do. I have no time to address the website right now. More important to get things to the printers on time.

S0, within 24 hours I will email the link to the INFO PACK to all registered folk. This is freeware, so to speak, so feel free to publish the address here at the Café, or anywhere else you like. Spread the word, talk about it. Think about it.

There will be a small "introductory offer" which is something I don't normally do. But, there are so many requests for autographed copies that I will send out a few direct. The "Info Pack" will have all the details.

So, see ya all on the other side!

Ben
Message: Posted by: Wesker (Apr 2, 2008 01:33AM)
[quote]
On 2008-04-01 01:19, Ben Harris wrote:
Evolve: Your name says it all! The way we are presenting this has "evolved" since that info was posted. When you download the "Info Pack" you will see an option to order 1 of a 100 limited "installed units." These are available ONLY to the first 100 purchasers of the Boxed set as an optional extra. So, you end up with 2 GIMMICKS --one for varied useage, one custom installed for operation with a Blue Backed Bicycle Deck. The option is $59.95. 100 only.
[/quote]

Ben,

This post kind of confused me. I thought Enlightenment was being released now where it no longer required you to alter the gaff so that it works (to float cards). I am confused about this 100 only option.

Is it that when you order the boxset which includes the installed gimmick, for 49.95 extra, you get a gimmick that is not the installed version so that you can mess around with it?

I like to order all my magic through my local magic shop so is this option only something I can do by getting it directly through your website?

Also an off-topic question on Enlightenment since you mentioned it comes installed for a blue back deck. My preference are red backed decks, is blue the only option for Enlightenment?
Message: Posted by: Ustaad (Apr 2, 2008 01:47AM)
[quote]
On 2008-04-02 02:19, Ben Harris wrote:
Ustaad,

That's EXACTLY what I'll have to do.
[/quote]

Ah! Now for sure, a few bricks are going to hit me. . . .ducking will not suffice, need to hide under a bomb proof shelter . . . running towards the shelter . . . going . . going .. gone.

Ah! Now I feel I am safe. I will surface only after the 'Info Pack' has been released. Till then . . .

:) ;)

:xmas:
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Apr 2, 2008 03:14AM)
Hi Wesker,

The gimmick has evolved so that it is now multi-use. While the concept was initialy developed for the Floating Card Application, it is now useable for other leviations effects--with dollar bills, etc.

So, when you buy the Limited Edtion Box Set you receive the multi-purpose gimmick that you can elect to "adapt" to your fave brand of cards.

The included book teaches all you need to know. There is a "Basic Install" which will take you 20-30 mins. It's really easy. Once you've played with this and performed the effect for a while you can then advance to the "Pro Install" which may take you an hour.

The fact that you can use the gimmick for MULTI-PURPOSE applications seemed way more important than limiting this to a Floating Card Application.

For instance, the book includes a bonus effect: FLOATING DOLLAR OFF KNEE.
This as a super cool effect that is exactly what the title says. When seated with spectators, at the bar, restaurant, wherever, you borrow a dollar note. It is folded in half and then placed on a spectator's knee. By rubbing it gently you create a static charge and the BILL FLOATS, HOVERS and DESCENDS. You are clean.

The inclusion of this effect would not have been possible UNLESS we provided the multi-purpose gaff.

At this time, the Custom Installed Deck is available as a "thank you" for those who registered for further information and those who act with enthusiasm early on.

In due course IT WILL be available from all dealers.
But that may be a year away.

There will also be other products like THE DEVELOPMENT KIT,
another book called FURTHER ENLIGHTENMENT, etc.

But for now the boxed set gives you EVERYTHING you need.

Gimmick (multi-purpose)
Quick Start Manual
12 Month Warranty
100 Page Book, THE ULTIMATE FLOATING CARD

Hope this helps.

Cheers
Ben
Message: Posted by: THEGUY26 (Will Swanson) (Apr 2, 2008 03:56AM)
Can you float newborn baby with this?
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Apr 2, 2008 05:59AM)
Hi Will,

New born baby is magic enough!

Ben
Message: Posted by: rmorrell (Apr 2, 2008 06:14AM)
For anyone that didn't recieve the e-mail it is here! Looks amazing Ben count me in ...

ENLIGHTENMENT UPDATE: APRIL 2, 2008

It is with pleasure that I offer you the link to a 25 page product
specification.
This will give you an inside track on the workings of the new ENLIGHTENMENT
CONCEPT.

If your are at all familiar with the genre being explored, you will no doubt
"read between the lines"
and more fully appreciate what is being offered here.

We are fully on track to have this on the dealer's shelves by the first week
of May.

Here's the link: (Right Click to Download to your computer. It's a pdf about
1.6mb in size)
http://www.wowbound.com/enlightenmentinfopack.pdf

At this point, we have not updated our website, so this link is the only
source for this information package. It is "freeware" so do feel free to
forward it to friends and anyone you feel would be interested. Feel free to
also post the address at any magic forum. Spread the word!

If you would like to take advantage of the offer attached to the Info Pack,
please
print it out the order form and post it by airmail to our postal address.

APOLOGIES but we cannot accept any orders via email or the internet.

Thanks so much for your continued support and enthusiasm.

See ya on the other side!


Ben Harris

http://www.wowbound.com
ben@wowbound.com
Message: Posted by: mickey.w (Apr 2, 2008 07:16AM)
Wow.......just got the info pack from Ben's email.............this looks very perfect! You can even pass a ring through this floating object!

The only thing is this.....I've dropped my physics textbooks for quite a while.....

...but what is a "drive"? :P

If that is too much to ask for, please ignore this....I have great repsect for Mr. Harris (btw fan of Quarks n Quirks here too...space oddity ROCKS!)....and I cannot state how much his work is to be appreciated here......geat man in magic and striving for the ethical disciplines lost in the magic community long ago. Truly great man.
Message: Posted by: The Whisperer (Apr 2, 2008 07:27AM)
Now I can see why you have so much confidence in tipping the method! This is ingenious! I will be sure to order this when it is released to all distributors (Ben already knows the reason why). Thank you very much and congratulations on this amazing effect. *** right it is a Paradigm Shift! Oh it is a shame I have to wait so long!
Sh3ldon
Message: Posted by: Alan Rorrison (Apr 2, 2008 07:34AM)
I watched this again and thoguht wow. the first time it did nothing for me but after a week or so and a second watch... cant wait lol
Message: Posted by: Joshua Barrett (Apr 2, 2008 07:36AM)
Pretty cool stuff..... wow is right
Message: Posted by: Magiguy (Apr 2, 2008 08:42AM)
I received my info pack this morning and it seems to be everything Ben said it was, and then some. In the early stages there was talk of offering a book which explained a DIY method of constructing the gimmick. After reading through the info pack I'm glad he decided to professionally produce these. Definitely looking forward to this.
Message: Posted by: altrez (Apr 2, 2008 08:48AM)
This is very clever! Mr Harris it looks like you have a great product that will be the next must have item for the close up worker.

-Altrez
Message: Posted by: thehawk (Apr 2, 2008 08:53AM)
Since Ben doesn't take email orders how do you know if you are of the first 100 or unlucky 101 or higher. Now don't tell me if you missed the boat and weren't one of the first 100 he won't charge anything. If I go through the work of filling out the form and mailing it I should know if I am going to get one or not.
Ben wants everything through the post I take it.
Message: Posted by: Wesker (Apr 2, 2008 09:14AM)
Amazing, If I didn't promise my dealer that I'd get this from them, I would be on my way to the post office with my order. Very clever method Ben.
Message: Posted by: Ustaad (Apr 2, 2008 09:34AM)
[b]Ingenious![/b]

I have a couple of questions.

1. Can I use my 2" X 2" X 1/2" M-50 grade magnet or do I need to get the smaller magnet?

2. Will the card levitate higher if I use a stronger magnet (like the one I already have)?

:xmas:
Message: Posted by: flekka (Apr 2, 2008 09:43AM)
Ben
It looks great and I have filled in and sent my order off...
only the fastest I could get it there was 5-days..By Air Mail
Message: Posted by: Tim Jahn (Apr 2, 2008 10:52AM)
My order just went out as well! These are probably going to sell fairly fast.

Tim
Message: Posted by: oombob (Apr 2, 2008 11:29AM)
I'm off to the post office now.
Message: Posted by: dreamadream99 (Apr 2, 2008 12:32PM)
[quote]
On 2008-04-02 09:53, thehawk wrote:
Since Ben doesn't take email orders how do you know if you are of the first 100 or unlucky 101 or higher. Now don't tell me if you missed the boat and weren't one of the first 100 he won't charge anything. If I go through the work of filling out the form and mailing it I should know if I am going to get one or not.
Ben wants everything through the post I take it.
[/quote]

Yes, good point. What happens to orders that aren't received in the first 100? Will they be fulfilled minus the custom gimmick? Will they simply be dropped? I shelled out $60 Canadian to get the form there as fast as possible, so I hope to get the rest of my order, even if I miss out on the limited edition extra.
Message: Posted by: thehawk (Apr 2, 2008 12:47PM)
The effect looks great but this process of wondering if your visa will get there in time is a screwed up process. Why not take a fax if you won't take email, don't tell me you don't have a fax machine, get one.
Message: Posted by: thehawk (Apr 2, 2008 12:48PM)
Only thing that makes sense is he doesn't want the mail to get there too quick.
Message: Posted by: thehawk (Apr 2, 2008 12:55PM)
[quote]
On 2008-04-02 13:32, dreamadream99 wrote:
[quote]
On 2008-04-02 09:53, thehawk wrote:
Since Ben doesn't take email orders how do you know if you are of the first 100 or unlucky 101 or higher. Now don't tell me if you missed the boat and weren't one of the first 100 he won't charge anything. If I go through the work of filling out the form and mailing it I should know if I am going to get one or not.
Ben wants everything through the post I take it.
[/quote]

Yes, good point. What happens to orders that aren't received in the first 100? Will they be fulfilled minus the custom gimmick? Will they simply be dropped? I shelled out $60 Canadian to get the form there as fast as possible, so I hope to get the rest of my order, even if I miss out on the limited edition extra.
[/quote]
If you want to be one of the first 50 to get it for $50 +$10=$60 you also have to buy Enlightenment for $80 I believe. It might cost you $140 to get everything.
Message: Posted by: Joshua Barrett (Apr 2, 2008 01:03PM)
I won't send CC info by mail. I can wait for the dealer =)
Message: Posted by: jeremysweiss (Apr 2, 2008 01:35PM)
Dang. Order sent out this am, vial global priority.

If I am in the first 100, I'll post a review.
Message: Posted by: THEGUY26 (Will Swanson) (Apr 2, 2008 01:36PM)
Wow, that's ingenious!

I don't understand how the spectator can lift up the card off the deck themselves, though.
Message: Posted by: Harv (Apr 2, 2008 02:15PM)
I'm really not sure what you do with the...gizmo!!??
Message: Posted by: oombob (Apr 2, 2008 02:17PM)
[quote]
On 2008-04-02 14:03, Joshua Barrett wrote:
I won't send CC info by mail. I can wait for the dealer =)
[/quote]

Hrm... want this badly but have reconsidered mailing my CC info. PayPal would be nice... or some other option.. or am waiting with Joshua for the dealer.
Message: Posted by: Gilgamesh_The_Librarian (Apr 2, 2008 02:36PM)
[quote]
On 2008-04-02 15:15, Harv wrote:
I'm really not sure what you do with the...gizmo!!??
[/quote]

That makes two of us...bit confusd about the effect described with the spectator handling the cards, complete with gimmick and pk magnet ?
Message: Posted by: thehawk (Apr 2, 2008 02:39PM)
[quote]
On 2008-04-02 15:36, Gilgamesh_The_Librarian wrote:
[quote]
On 2008-04-02 15:15, Harv wrote:
I'm really not sure what you do with the...gizmo!!??
[/quote]

That makes two of us...bit confusd about the effect described with the spectator handling the cards, complete with gimmick and pk magnet ?
[/quote]
Th gizmo is used to gizmolize the cards.
Message: Posted by: evolve629 (Apr 2, 2008 02:43PM)
Any and every cards? ;)
Message: Posted by: Corey K (Apr 2, 2008 03:19PM)
From what I read.. I'm understanding that the gizmo that they have is probably built into a card (or a stack) and holds the charge from the gizmo that the magician holds onto. I'm sure it will be explained perfectly in the actual instruction booklet.

However it works, it sounds awesome and I can't wait to get one!
Message: Posted by: Bill Lhotta (Apr 2, 2008 03:23PM)
Yes, I was hoping the information packet would have a better explanation of the logistics involved. It leaves a number of questions unanswered but hopefully Ben will be able to shed some light on those here.

** Bill **
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Apr 2, 2008 03:28PM)
Hi guys.

If you want to be sure about securing what you need, send an email and I'll reserve it for you.

You can then follow up with a letter and CC number or cheque.

All the pre-orders will be shipped when we ship everything to our distributor (Murphys) at the end of April.

By doing this by snail-mail I can sit down with all of the letters in one hit. I won't even pick up the mail from the post office for two weeks, I can't be distracted or I'll miss the deadline. It's simply time management. Old school, but that's just gotta be the way right now.

Please, if you have any concerns just wait until your dealer has this. I'd much prefer you give your sale to your dealer, he/she deserves your business and support.

Cheers

Ben
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Apr 2, 2008 03:37PM)
Corey,

Yes, you are right.

The INFO PACK has allowed you to read between the lines. You've nailed it, broadly speaking. If I tell you any more, I will have no product to sell.

Don't forget, the gimmick is multi-purpose so you don't have to use cards.
The FLOATING BILL OFF SPECTATOR'S KNEE is an example of another use: You're sitting with friends at a bar, restaurant, or at the mall. Borrow a bill and place it on a spectator's knee. Then make it float, hover and ascend. They know there is nothing benaeth it, it's on their leg! Instant, automatic clean up!!

It's all in the two books supplied:

-Quick Start Manual (get you up and going, working with the gimmick)
-E: The Ultimate Floating Card (FULL details on the FC and more)

Cheers

Ben
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Apr 2, 2008 03:40PM)
Ustaad,

That magnet is more than adequate. You could use something half the size if you wanted.

Cheers

Ben
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Apr 2, 2008 03:49PM)
Bill

What questions do you need answered?

I'm more than happy to answer whatever concerns you may have.

I'll check in in a couple of hours. Work awaits!!

Ben
Message: Posted by: THEGUY26 (Will Swanson) (Apr 2, 2008 04:31PM)
Have you ever thought about creating a self-levitation with this? You could levitate a spectator!
Message: Posted by: Bill Lhotta (Apr 2, 2008 05:38PM)
Hi Ben!

From your response to Corey I gather the Info Pack was meant to be a bit vague and I don't have a problem with that given the reason in your response.

I do have one specific question for you though. You mention in the Info Pack the Paradigm Shifter could be as small as 25mm x 12mm x 2mm but the one you custom designed is 26.5mm x 26.5mm x 14mm. Does your larger custom designed Paradigm shifter provide any benefits over using the smaller one that meets the minimum requirements? Does the object float higher with the larger Paradigm Shifter? Do you not need to be as close to the spectator with the larger Paradigm Shifter? What is the advantage of using a larger Paradigm Shifter?

The reason I ask is because I already own a "Paradigm Shifter" that is almost the exact size of the minimum requirements you specify, but I may be swayed to purchase a larger one if there are any obvious benefits.

Thanks for your help, and congrats on Enlightenment. It looks like you have come up with another winner! Looking forward to having one soon.

** Bill **
Message: Posted by: magicman899 (Apr 2, 2008 08:33PM)
Wow,
my only question is on the drive aspect,what is a "drive"?
Message: Posted by: thehawk (Apr 2, 2008 09:01PM)
[quote]
On 2008-04-02 21:33, magicman899 wrote:
Wow,
my only question is on the drive aspect,what is a "drive"?
[/quote]
Have you ever seen Tiger Woods hit a golf ball.
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Apr 2, 2008 11:19PM)
Hi Bill,

Thanks for your questions. The magnet you have is fine. No need to buy a new one.
Everyone--if you have a typical PK-Style magnet, then there is no need to buy the Paradigm Shifter.

Bill, the tiny magnet mentioned is the very minimum required to create the effect. The Paradaigm Shifter is a good "mid-point" unit. You can use a much larger "Drive Magnet". There is much room for this idea to evolve and grow in many directions--both large and small. An advantage of The Paradigm Shifter is that it is rubber coated--something I've personally wanted for years. Just makes it more comfortable to use.

Cheers

Ben
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Apr 2, 2008 11:30PM)
SOLD OUT

Folks, I can't believe it, are you trying to kill me with attention and enthusiasm?

The limited run of 100 units is completely allocated (89, anyway).
There's probably a few orders in the mail from people who have not emailed
a notification, so, I'd say we're done.

To be completely fair to those who may be on their way to the post office today or in the morning,

WE WILL HONOUR ALL ORDERS POSTMARKED APRIL 4, 2008 or before.

This is hard to draw this line in the sand. It's the 3rd here, the second elsewhere and the 4th somewhere else! This is the only way I can think of to ensure that you don't miss out on the optional add-on or autographed set.


Otherwise please ask your dealer to order the Limited Edition Boxed Set for you. Dealers worldwide will have stock in early May.

Thanks again for the furious support. I can't wait for your feedback once you'ver played with Enlightenment.

Cheers

Ben
Message: Posted by: THEGUY26 (Will Swanson) (Apr 3, 2008 01:15AM)
So how much is the gimmick alone?
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Apr 3, 2008 01:25AM)
The gimmick alone is only available in the Limited Edition Boxed set.

That's $79.95.

You get

--the gimmick
--Quick Start Manual (in four languages)
--100 Page Book: "Enlightenment:The Ultimate Floating Card"
--12 month warranty.

Ben
Message: Posted by: THEGUY26 (Will Swanson) (Apr 3, 2008 01:37AM)
That's still a good deal!
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Apr 3, 2008 05:23AM)
You bet!

Ben
Message: Posted by: The Whisperer (Apr 3, 2008 09:28AM)
I have just been told by my dealer that they will be getting this product in when it goes out to all dealers, so you can expect a review from me in the future (probably not too soon though). I am over the moon! Ben just to let you know your effect is one of a rare few that I am willing to buy that requires a gimmick!
Sh3ldon
Message: Posted by: simcoscor (Apr 3, 2008 10:20AM)
[quote]
On 2008-04-02 17:31, THEGUY26 (Will Swanson) wrote:
Have you ever thought about creating a self-levitation with this?
[/quote]

It's a bird...It's a plane...It's SUPERBEN ! [img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/superman.gif[/img]
Message: Posted by: Bill Lhotta (Apr 3, 2008 10:50AM)
Thanks for the quick reply Ben!

** Bill **

[quote]
On 2008-04-03 00:19, Ben Harris wrote:
Hi Bill,

Thanks for your questions. The magnet you have is fine. No need to buy a new one.
Everyone--if you have a typical PK-Style magnet, then there is no need to buy the Paradigm Shifter.

Bill, the tiny magnet mentioned is the very minimum required to create the effect. The Paradaigm Shifter is a good "mid-point" unit. You can use a much larger "Drive Magnet". There is much room for this idea to evolve and grow in many directions--both large and small. An advantage of The Paradigm Shifter is that it is rubber coated--something I've personally wanted for years. Just makes it more comfortable to use.

Cheers

Ben
[/quote]
Message: Posted by: dreamadream99 (Apr 3, 2008 01:56PM)
[quote]
On 2008-04-03 00:30, Ben Harris wrote:

SOLD OUT...WE WILL HONOUR ALL ORDERS POSTMARKED APRIL 4, 2008 or before...
[/quote]
Whew!
Message: Posted by: Silvio Solaris (Apr 3, 2008 11:56PM)
My order is in!

Be prepared to go into 'overdrive' Ben.
Message: Posted by: cardbiker (Apr 4, 2008 12:37PM)
Mr Harris will you be doing any special offers on this for people who have wasted money on some of your other products.
Message: Posted by: Tim Jahn (Apr 4, 2008 12:46PM)
[quote]
On 2008-04-04 13:37, cardbiker wrote:
Mr Harris will you be doing any special offers on this for people who have wasted money on some of your other products.
[/quote]

I'm sure theres a very special offer. Something along the lines of, DON'T BUY IT AND SAVE YOUR MONEY.

Sounds like a good deal for ya!

Jeeesh...Always got to be one.
Message: Posted by: cardbiker (Apr 4, 2008 01:05PM)
Butt out,the question was'nt addressed at you .
Message: Posted by: dreamadream99 (Apr 4, 2008 01:36PM)
[quote]
On 2008-04-04 13:37, cardbiker wrote:
Mr Harris will you be doing any special offers on this for people who have wasted money on some of your other products.
[/quote]

Given the tone of this, do you really feel that after reading it, Mr. Harris will be inclined to offer you any special considerations? Or is this simply your way of venting publicly?

(FTR, I'm not answering your question, just wondering about your motivation for this post).
Message: Posted by: Review King (Apr 4, 2008 03:05PM)
[quote]
On 2008-04-04 13:37, cardbiker wrote:
Mr Harris will you be doing any special offers on this for people who have wasted money on some of your other products.
[/quote]

You could have PM'd Ben and started a dialog, Being annonymous, no photo and the tone, I don't think you even expect an answer.

But...let's take this an opportunity to learn something.

I have to say, at one point I made similar posts. I come from a family that breaks each others **lls and that carried over to the friends I've made doing standup comedy. You just blurt stuff out. But....when you do it to "strangers" and on the internet, it has a different tone.

One time, a good friend told me that he appreciated feedback, good or bad, but when I made remarks like "this stinks" etc. I was actually hurting magic as a whole. He was right and I have tried my best to be more positive.

Once I had bought something that I didn't care for. I wrote the creator and pointed out things that I didn't like, etc. Well, to my surprise, he was so receptive to my note that we started exchanging ideas, etc.

Anyway, I made a friend instead of hurting someone's spirit. And...I got so much more out of it than the one trick.

And in the last two years, I have found that things I didn't care for, someone else uses and kills with it. By sharing ideas, you may end up liking something you hated before.

In fact, sometimes an old post of mine comes up where I couldn't stand something, but I ended up changing the handling and it's a worker. Now I have to appologize to the creator, etc. for slamming it. If I had just written the creator and voiced my concerns, I would have made a friend and learned something.

I'm not saying we can't voice opinions. I'm all for spirited debate and honest feelings about products. But having a more civil tone makes everyone a winner.
Message: Posted by: oombob (Apr 4, 2008 03:20PM)
[quote]
On 2008-04-04 16:05, Christopher Kavanagh wrote:
[quote]
On 2008-04-04 13:37, cardbiker wrote:
Mr Harris will you be doing any special offers on this for people who have wasted money on some of your other products.
[/quote]

You could have PM'd Ben and started a dialog, Being annonymous, no photo and the tone, I don't think you even expect an answer.

But...let's take this an opportunity to learn something.

I have to say, at one point I made similar posts. I come from a family that breaks each others **lls and that carried over to the friends I've made doing standup comedy. You just blurt stuff out. But....when you do it to "strangers" and on the internet, it has a different tone.

One time, a good friend told me that he appreciated feedback, good or bad, but when I made remarks like "this stinks" etc. I was actually hurting magic as a whole. He was right and I have tried my best to be more positive.

Once I had bought something that I didn't care for. I wrote the creator and pointed out things that I didn't like, etc. Well, to my surprise, he was so receptive to my note that we started exchanging ideas, etc.

Anyway, I made a friend instead of hurting someone's spirit. And...I got so much more out of it than the one trick.

And in the last two years, I have found that things I didn't care for, someone else uses and kills with it. By sharing ideas, you may end up liking something you hated before.

In fact, sometimes an old post of mine comes up where I couldn't stand something, but I ended up changing the handling and it's a worker. Now I have to appologize to the creator, etc. for slamming it. If I had just written the creator and voiced my concerns, I would have made a friend and learned something.

I'm not saying we can't voice opinions. I'm all for spirited debate and honest feelings about products. But having a more civil tone makes everyone a winner.
[/quote]


Perfectly put. For what it's worth...I have always contacted the creator directly when I felt unsatisfied with a purchase. Ben Harris, unlike some others I could mention , has always been extremely helpful and responsive to any concerns I have ever had with his products.
Message: Posted by: wise owl (Apr 4, 2008 04:22PM)
OOPs! its 04/05/08 in Aussie now. I just missed the deadline!!
Will the custom installation be available frm dealer anymore?
Message: Posted by: wise owl (Apr 4, 2008 04:33PM)
Just back to Aussie and can't believe I am so bad luck to miss the offer. Frm the description of the basic method (magnetic), it seems that shimmed card is needed and the signed (shimmed?)card can not give away. Is that true?
Message: Posted by: michaelmystic2003 (Apr 4, 2008 05:19PM)
Looks brilliant... the final in-the-hands bit in the demo gave me chills. Just brilliant, this is definitely something I will consider. I liked Zoom and it looks like this will be a very strong effect.
Message: Posted by: tbaer (Apr 4, 2008 07:22PM)
[quote]
On 2008-04-03 02:25, Ben Harris wrote:
The gimmick alone is only available in the Limited Edition Boxed set.

That's $79.95.

You get

--the gimmick
--Quick Start Manual (in four languages)
--100 Page Book: "Enlightenment:The Ultimate Floating Card"
--12 month warranty.

Ben
[/quote]

Ben, since it has a 12 month warranty, does this mean it could eventually over time or many performances, not work?

Thanks, Tom
Message: Posted by: Tim Jahn (Apr 4, 2008 07:35PM)
[quote]
On 2008-04-04 14:05, cardbiker wrote:
Butt out,the question was'nt addressed at you .
[/quote]

By posting this ridiculous question in a public forum you lost the right to tell anyone to butt-out. It doesn't matter if you were talking "at" me or not. You asked a question trying to hurt someone. I gave you some free advice in response.

Learn a lesson and do things the proper way next time.
Message: Posted by: Review King (Apr 4, 2008 08:35PM)
[quote]
On 2008-04-04 20:35, Tim Jahn wrote:
[quote]
On 2008-04-04 14:05, cardbiker wrote:
Butt out,the question was'nt addressed at you .
[/quote]

By posting this ridiculous question in a public forum you lost the right to tell anyone to butt-out. It doesn't matter if you were talking "at" me or not. You asked a question trying to hurt someone. I gave you some free advice in response.

Learn a lesson and do things the proper way next time.
[/quote]

EXACTLY!
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Apr 4, 2008 08:45PM)
Wise Owl,

No shimmed cards. Any card, let them keep it as a souvenir. Even Dollar Notes!

Tom, it should not break ever unless it is miss-treated.

The gimmick is very sensitively balanced, but is strong. We've spent a zillion bucks and years getting this right. The warranty is supplied so that you will have confidence that this mechanism will keep on going day in day out.


We've tested it mechanically to 10,000 performances.

Cheers

Ben
Message: Posted by: Madmonk (Apr 4, 2008 09:15PM)
Intriguing.
Message: Posted by: simcoscor (Apr 4, 2008 09:49PM)
A paradigm shifter drives an aluminium & plastic gizmo to levitate an ordinary card or bill...or book. If it works, you deserve a tribute on Wikipedia...or the Nobel prize in physics! [img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/diplome.gif[/img]
Message: Posted by: Micheal Leath (Apr 4, 2008 10:46PM)
If you gimmick a deck for the floating card, can the gimmick later be easily removed, without damaging the prepared cards or the gimmick, to use in other effects?
Message: Posted by: Review King (Apr 4, 2008 10:53PM)
What I was attracted most to this effect was how subtle it was. A card that zooms around your body over your head, through the woods to grandma's house, looks like a trick.

Enlightenment looks like what it would look like if you could do it.
Message: Posted by: wise owl (Apr 4, 2008 11:10PM)
Will the custom install deck (extra bonus) be available alone later and will it be available stand alone/in the limited edition frm other dealers (eg HP)??
Message: Posted by: thehawk (Apr 4, 2008 11:26PM)
Believe Ben said it might not be ready for another year, just the preorders.
Message: Posted by: joseph (Apr 5, 2008 06:05PM)
Enlightenment is now on the Hocus-Pocus new item site... :) ..
Message: Posted by: oombob (Apr 6, 2008 12:32AM)
Happy to order this from the Pocus....thanks for the notice.
Message: Posted by: Cardguy52 (Apr 6, 2008 03:08AM)
My orders in, I can't wait!!!
Message: Posted by: yachanin (Apr 6, 2008 10:23AM)
I don't know if these questions were answered and I missed them, but I would appreciate any help:

1. can the height of the card be increased with a stronger "drive"?
2. can a credit card (or bill) be floated in-hand (like the playing card) or must they be on a flat surface?

If the answers would be considered exposure, I would appreciate a PM. Thanks for any help in this matter.

Regards, Steve
Message: Posted by: magicman899 (Apr 6, 2008 10:27AM)
I too would like to hear the answers to Steve's questions...
Message: Posted by: THEGUY26 (Will Swanson) (Apr 6, 2008 01:57PM)
I'd assume it could be done on a hand, because it can be done on a leg, and a leg is round.
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Apr 6, 2008 04:29PM)
Steve,

The answers are as follows: the height cannot be increased with the power of the "drive magnet" but the stronger the "drive magnet" the further away you can be. The gimmick is very sensitive and can be driven with a very small magnet.

Yes, you can use other flat objects. I have a seance presentation that uses photographs of dead movie stars, for example. Generally, you need a flat surface on which to perform. But there are exceptions...

The 100 page book that is included with the set details a FLOATING BILL application. You can float the bill off any flat surface, or the spectator's knee, if you are seated with them, of course!

Please PM any further questions. I feel we are almost about to cross the line.

The set is released in the first week of May. Please reserve with your dealer as soon as you can. The demand is huge and we will try to avoid any delays.

Hope this helps.

Cheers

Ben
Message: Posted by: Shodan (Apr 6, 2008 05:57PM)
Ben - can you tell us if this is going to be carried by retailers in the UK (and if so, which ones!)?

Cheers,
David.
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Apr 6, 2008 06:51PM)
Hi David,

I believe Alakazam and World Magic Shop. The distribution is being handled by Murphy's, worldwide, but but the above shops mentioned to me that they were looking forward to carrying Enlightenment.

Cheers

Ben
Message: Posted by: THEGUY26 (Will Swanson) (Apr 6, 2008 07:09PM)
If its not asking too much, do you think you can list the table of contents of the Enlightenment book?
Message: Posted by: wise owl (Apr 6, 2008 07:18PM)
Can't wait. Order it frm HP already. But still hopes to buy the custom made card gimmick that I missed. Any idea when will it be available to the public, Ben?
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Apr 7, 2008 04:14AM)
Wise Owl,

Much later in the year.

Cheers

Ben
Message: Posted by: Shodan (Apr 7, 2008 04:46AM)
Thanks for the reply Ben.
Message: Posted by: Bill Lhotta (Apr 7, 2008 10:02AM)
Chris, one of your best posts to date! It's nice to see positive personal growth, and you should be commended for recognizing it and publicly acknowledging it.

All the *BEST*!

** Bill **

[quote]
On 2008-04-04 16:05, Christopher Kavanagh wrote:
[quote]
On 2008-04-04 13:37, cardbiker wrote:
Mr Harris will you be doing any special offers on this for people who have wasted money on some of your other products.
[/quote]

You could have PM'd Ben and started a dialog, Being annonymous, no photo and the tone, I don't think you even expect an answer.

But...let's take this an opportunity to learn something.

I have to say, at one point I made similar posts. I come from a family that breaks each others **lls and that carried over to the friends I've made doing standup comedy. You just blurt stuff out. But....when you do it to "strangers" and on the internet, it has a different tone.

One time, a good friend told me that he appreciated feedback, good or bad, but when I made remarks like "this stinks" etc. I was actually hurting magic as a whole. He was right and I have tried my best to be more positive.

Once I had bought something that I didn't care for. I wrote the creator and pointed out things that I didn't like, etc. Well, to my surprise, he was so receptive to my note that we started exchanging ideas, etc.

Anyway, I made a friend instead of hurting someone's spirit. And...I got so much more out of it than the one trick.

And in the last two years, I have found that things I didn't care for, someone else uses and kills with it. By sharing ideas, you may end up liking something you hated before.

In fact, sometimes an old post of mine comes up where I couldn't stand something, but I ended up changing the handling and it's a worker. Now I have to appologize to the creator, etc. for slamming it. If I had just written the creator and voiced my concerns, I would have made a friend and learned something.

I'm not saying we can't voice opinions. I'm all for spirited debate and honest feelings about products. But having a more civil tone makes everyone a winner.
[/quote]
Message: Posted by: ferrissteve (Apr 7, 2008 05:24PM)
Would rare neonydium (spelling??) earth magnets work for this effect? I have seen several available on ebay with varying degrees of strength. or is the "paradigm shifter" as its called the ideal strength and size of magnet for this effect?
Message: Posted by: TheAmazingSteveo (Apr 7, 2008 06:05PM)
This looks VERY Cool .. I just ordered it from Hocus-Pocus.
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Apr 7, 2008 07:05PM)
Hi Ferris Steve

Yes, any of these magnets bigger than 10mm X 10mm X 15mm will work.
The Paradigm Shifter is a Rubber Coated for comfort. Just a nice touch. Makes the magnet less harsh to handle.

Cheers

Ben
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Apr 7, 2008 07:18PM)
Hi Will,

Here's a listing of the contents of the TWO supplied books as per your request.

Book One: Quick Start Manual

This is 40 pages and is standard (boxed with gimmick).
It is in four languages (English, French, Japanese and Spanish).
This booklet is designed to get you up and running (quickly) with the gimmick.

Contents:

Introduction
Photographs
The Gimmick
How To Practice With The Gimmick
Hiding The Drive Magnet
Warranty Information


Book Two:

Enlightenment: The Ultimate Floating Card. (100 pages with photos)

This book is not written like a regular "magic book" rather it is in a conversation style that explores the use of magnets in magic and superimposes the new work over this.

You are then taught the details of the Floating Card Application. This entails installing the gimmick (if desired), handling, performing, etc.

Contents:

Prologue
Magnets in Magic
Developing The Enlightenment Engine
Dropping Copper
The Floating Card Application
Quick Start Easy Install
Professional Stealth Install
Performing The Floating Card Illusion
Bonus: Floating Dollar Bill Off a Spectator's Knee
Appendix
Endnotes

Cheers


Ben
Message: Posted by: Marc Spelmann (Apr 7, 2008 07:20PM)
This looks beautiful and I love the trailer, it is raw, compelling and direct..

This is top of my list.. actually it's the only thing on my list..

Spelmann
Message: Posted by: simcoscor (Apr 7, 2008 08:00PM)
Dear Ben, in the coming days or weeks, would you tell us a bit more about "dropping copper" ? Thanks!
[img]http://www.mazeguy.net/symbolic/magnet.gif[/img] [img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/yoga.gif[/img]
Message: Posted by: Robert M (Apr 7, 2008 08:19PM)
I just ordered Enlightenment and the Paradigm Shifter from Hocus Pocus. But, I'm still a bit confused. Since I did not preorder, I will have to make the deck gaff myself, correct? Is this a fairly simple thing to do?

Robert
Message: Posted by: thehawk (Apr 7, 2008 08:21PM)
Deck gaff were only through Ben for now on orders to him in Blue bikes.
Message: Posted by: Eddie Garland (Apr 7, 2008 08:29PM)
I'm totally confused and ordered anyway.
Thus the power of Ben Harris.
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Apr 7, 2008 08:48PM)
Hi Robert.

The Gimmick is multi-purpose. You can do an "install" for the Floating Card Application, or use the gimmick for other levitation possibilities--dollar notes, etc.

A quick install is easy and will take you 20 mins.
The Pro Install takes an hour.

Both are clearly taught with huge photos (like the book, Session [which came out of our art studio]).

In the future, we will make a full run of pre-installed decks in a variety of backs. Late 2008.

Hope this helps.

Cheers

Ben
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Apr 7, 2008 09:01PM)
Simcoscor,

surely some intrigue must remain?

Cheers

Ben
Message: Posted by: simcoscor (Apr 7, 2008 09:09PM)
[quote]
On 2008-04-07 22:01, Ben Harris wrote:
Simcoscor,

surely some intrigue must remain?

Cheers

Ben
[/quote]

[img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/sablier.gif[/img]
Message: Posted by: oombob (Apr 7, 2008 11:10PM)
[quote]
On 2008-04-07 22:01, Ben Harris wrote:
Simcoscor,

surely some intrigue must remain?

Cheers

Ben
[/quote]

Well... in light of what has been discussed / revealed, I kind of think this whole thread is now a candidate for secret sessions.
Message: Posted by: Robert M (Apr 8, 2008 09:56AM)
[quote]
On 2008-04-07 21:48, Ben Harris wrote:
Hi Robert.

The Gimmick is multi-purpose. You can do an "install" for the Floating Card Application, or use the gimmick for other levitation possibilities--dollar notes, etc.

A quick install is easy and will take you 20 mins.
The Pro Install takes an hour.

Both are clearly taught with huge photos (like the book, Session [which came out of our art studio]).

In the future, we will make a full run of pre-installed decks in a variety of backs. Late 2008.

Hope this helps.

Cheers

Ben
[/quote]

Yes, that definitely helps. Thanks, Ben!

Robert
Message: Posted by: Tom Lauten (Apr 9, 2008 07:51AM)
That looks fantastic Ben... glad to see your inspirations are still happenning!
I can't WAIT to have a play.

I for one plan on actually TRYING this effect out and reviewing it based upon what it does, what one gets, how it might be used, by whom, under what circumstances and in what way... you know, a review? A thing one writes based on experience of a product and an open mind?

I know it's a crazy concept but otherwise a person runs a small risk of just looking like an IDIOT if they were to "go off on one" without being in posession of the product, facts or common courtesy. Hey, give it a try folks...it makes a change from writing things just for the thrill of feeling "involved" huh?

Sorry to rant Ben... but I had just read some older posts here and decided to vent spleen on the usual morons...and to be patronising to them (that means to talk down to a person). ;)
Message: Posted by: matt.magicman (Apr 9, 2008 09:19AM)
Can they look under when its floating?
Message: Posted by: Bill Lhotta (Apr 9, 2008 05:12PM)
I believe I read somewhere that not only could they look under the card when it is floating but they can also snatch it from mid-air and find nothing!

** Bill **
Message: Posted by: matt.magicman (Apr 9, 2008 05:17PM)
Yeah , I heard the bit about takng it from mid-floating
but I just wondered how it would go if they decided to take a peek during the float too?
Message: Posted by: magicman899 (Apr 9, 2008 06:49PM)
Ben,
This thought just occured to me...when doing the effect, should one be worried about the spectators watch stopping and potential damage that might cause? also, when performing the effect, should one stay clear of those with a pacemaker?
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Apr 9, 2008 10:10PM)
Hi Matt,

The spectators may take the card at any time. You are always clean.

Hi MagicMan,

All warnings are included on te packaging. You should always take care with PK Styled magnets and effects like this.

Cheers

Ben
Message: Posted by: tdowell (Apr 10, 2008 02:32AM)
Order in for both Enlightenment and Shifter, I'm looking forward to this. Thanks for releasing it Ben.
Message: Posted by: The Mac (Apr 10, 2008 06:37AM)
[quote]
On 2008-04-09 18:12, Bill Lhotta wrote:
I believe I read somewhere that not only could they look under the card when it is floating but they can also snatch it from mid-air and find nothing!

** Bill **
[/quote]

this makes me excited in places that magic shouldnt do to a guy
Message: Posted by: RooMan (Apr 10, 2008 01:44PM)
[quote]


this makes me excited in places that magic shouldnt do to a guy
[/quote]

FUNNY STUFF!!!!!
Message: Posted by: magicman899 (Apr 10, 2008 02:41PM)
Ben,

Thanks for the response.

Michael
Message: Posted by: matt.magicman (Apr 10, 2008 05:34PM)
I guess we cant perform too many other effects before and after this one with the same deck?
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Apr 10, 2008 10:29PM)
Hi Matt,

You can perform an entire act with the deck. Hand the deck out for shuffling, then produce the four aces, go into your fave routine with them. Have cards selected at will, THEN go into Enlightenment when you are ready.

In fact, the effect of Enlightenment is stronger if you have been using the deck throughout.

Cheers

Ben
Message: Posted by: matt.magicman (Apr 11, 2008 04:34AM)
Thanks for that mate
I'm in then!
off to http://www.worldmagicshop.co.uk
cheers ben for all your help
matt wainwright
Message: Posted by: Tim Jahn (Apr 11, 2008 07:03AM)
This sounds completely unbelievable!!
I can't wait to try this out for myself.

The spectator shuffling the deck and choosing their card at
will is the part that really intrigues me.

Tim
Message: Posted by: Chappo (Apr 11, 2008 07:17AM)
My freaking goodness... :O

Why I didn't read this thread sooner I have no idea! The spec being able to take and examine the card is really quite scary. I hope that this really is so practical it's scary... I'm seriously intrigued.

I'll be watching developments on this one!
Message: Posted by: T. Eugene (Apr 11, 2008 10:34AM)
They can take a card from mid-air, but can they look under when the card is floating?
Message: Posted by: pvhoutten (Apr 11, 2008 01:29PM)
Yes they can:

[quote]
On 2007-07-31 17:12, Ben Harris wrote:

...
the lady DOES LOOK UNDER the card right towards the end of the video.

The spectator's can grab the card at ANY TIME. That is the real strength of this. You have a genuine levitation in that the card floats up and down, all under your control, and the spectators can GRAB the card at ANYTIME. There is nothing attatched and nothing below, just the way it SHOULD be.
...

[/quote]

Apparently this is a bad consequence of modern internet usage: people wanting information so fast they don't take the effort of searching for it...
Message: Posted by: Ustaad (Apr 11, 2008 11:05PM)
[quote]
On 2008-04-11 14:29, pvhoutten wrote:
Yes they can:
[/quote]

:)

:xmas:
Message: Posted by: Wesker (Apr 11, 2008 11:26PM)
[quote]
On 2008-04-07 21:48, Ben Harris wrote:
Hi Robert.

The Gimmick is multi-purpose. You can do an "install" for the Floating Card Application, or use the gimmick for other levitation possibilities--dollar notes, etc.

A quick install is easy and will take you 20 mins.
The Pro Install takes an hour.

Both are clearly taught with huge photos (like the book, Session [which came out of our art studio]).

In the future, we will make a full run of pre-installed decks in a variety of backs. Late 2008.

Hope this helps.

Cheers

Ben
[/quote]

Ben,

If you do an install of the Enlightenment gimmick, does this mean it can only be used for the floating card application?

Assuming yes, is the Pro Install permanent?
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Apr 12, 2008 12:24AM)
Hi Guys,

There are tricky things being discussed here. Especially the "Can the spectator look under the card?" sort of questions.

The answer is both YES and NO!

You cannot look directly under the card while it is floating, you need your audience to be looking SLIGHTLY down upon the floating card. If you LOOK AT THE VIDEO DEMO you will get a good idea of the latitude allowable with the angles. However, that being said, the floating card my be grabbed, turned over, and examined at any time without discovering anything. So the answer is yes and no!

Considering that the spectator just SHUFFLED the deck, nominated and removed ANY CARD, (and you have not added or taken away anything), is to me, more than sufficiently fair. Especially since your are automatically clean if the spectator grabs the card.

Wesker,

You can do multiple installs with the supplied gimmick. So you can do an install and later change your mind.

Cheers

Ben
Message: Posted by: Ustaad (Apr 12, 2008 12:48AM)
[quote]
On 2008-04-12 01:24, Ben Harris wrote:
There are tricky things being discussed here. Especially the "Can the spectator look under the card?" sort of questions.
[/quote]

[quote]
On 2008-04-08 00:10, oombob wrote:
Well... in light of what has been discussed / revealed, I kind of think this whole thread is now a candidate for secret sessions.
[/quote]

[b]I agree![/b]

The tiny (appox 25mm X 12mm X 3mm thick) gimmick does it all. Designing such a small lifting gimmick is a breakthrough in magnetic repulsion technology (IMHO). One can well imagine the hard work and efforts gone into this little miracle.

:xmas:
Message: Posted by: Gilgamesh_The_Librarian (Apr 12, 2008 04:21AM)
Hi Ben,

Any gizmo's gone out for review yet ?

Getting a few opinions whilst we wait for May would be great.
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Apr 12, 2008 02:55PM)
Hi Gilgamesh

Nothing has gone out for review yet. Everything will go out at the same time, last week in April. I don't want to send out gimmicks without the full documentation. We should have the books back from the printers in about ten days.

Cheers mate

Ben
Message: Posted by: oombob (Apr 12, 2008 08:46PM)
[quote]
On 2008-04-11 11:34, T. Eugene wrote:
They can take a card from mid-air, but can they look under when the card is floating?
[/quote]

Yes, they can look under the card... the question is will you allow them to?
Message: Posted by: mesmer (Apr 12, 2008 08:50PM)
Ben what is the difference if I order this from hocus pocus and if I order this from your site......

thanxs
Message: Posted by: Douglas Lippert (Apr 12, 2008 10:02PM)
Ben probably makes a higher profit. Buy it from Mr. Harris if you can.
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Apr 12, 2008 10:10PM)
Hi Mesmer,

I sold a limited number of sets as an introductory offer that expired April 4.
I cannot sell any more directly because that's not fair for the dealers.

You can only now purchase from your dealer. Hocus-Pocus, or which ever dealer you choose, will supply EXACTLY the same product as I offered.

Enlightenment - Limited Edition Boxed Set $79.95
Paradigm Shifter - $35.00 (if you already have a PK Magnet, you don't need this).

Cheers

Ben
Message: Posted by: matt.magicman (Apr 13, 2008 01:08PM)
This document should answer a few questions....
http://www.worldmagicshop.co.uk/various/ProductSpecification.pdf
hope it helps!
really looking forward to this one ben!!
thanks very much for sharing it with us
cheers
matt
Message: Posted by: simcoscor (Apr 13, 2008 05:09PM)
[quote]
On 2008-04-13 14:08, matt.magicman wrote:
This document should answer a few questions....
http://www.worldmagicshop.co.uk/various/ProductSpecification.pdf
hope it helps!
[/quote]

This is the exact same info pack, already mentionned on this thread (p.8, april 2nd).
http://www.wowbound.com/enlightenmentinfopack.pdf
[img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/douche_002.gif[/img]
Message: Posted by: jfkkraemer (Apr 13, 2008 09:11PM)
I'm curious, does anyone actually have this in their greedy little mits? Love to hear some thoughts on it other than all the speculation.

Jeff
Message: Posted by: Silvio Solaris (Apr 13, 2008 11:06PM)
Ben, you deserve the first price for innovation in the category for best magical accessory.

Furthermore this will change a bit the way close-up levitations will be done in the future.

Very well done Sir.
Message: Posted by: Ustaad (Apr 14, 2008 12:01AM)
[quote]
On 2008-04-14 00:06, Silvio Solaris wrote:
Ben, you deserve the first price for innovation in the category for best magical accessory.

Furthermore this will change a bit the way close-up levitations will be done in the future.

Very well done Sir.
[/quote]

Yes, Mr. Ben Harris deserves the first prize for innovating the [b]Enlightenment[/b] gimmick. Also I must thank Ben for his wonder method/ idea. It has great potential in other fields of magnetic levitation. Great thinking Ben!

[b]C O N G R A T U L A T I O N S ![/b]

:xmas:
P.S. Right now the heat is on this wonder Gimmick. :) ;)
Message: Posted by: THEGUY26 (Will Swanson) (Apr 14, 2008 12:49AM)
This will be trick of the year, for sure.
Message: Posted by: Gilgamesh_The_Librarian (Apr 14, 2008 05:30AM)
Whoah, calm down a bit !!!

I think the thing I have noticed on this one is that Ben Harris has given out enough info for people to get a very good idea of what it is and how it works, without hyping it to death.

I think its going to be a pretty useful utility device but, until I hold one in my sticky little fingers, I am not going to be calling it the best thing ever etc etc.

Lets not get all hypey hypey until the things out, that way we don't get the adverse reactions when people realise its not Marty McFly's hoverboard they have bought.
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Apr 14, 2008 06:04AM)
Thanks Gilgamesh,

You said what had to be said.

Quite frankly, this is scarying me to death.

Please don't set me up for a fall. No matter how clever the gimmick may or may not be, Enlightenment is still a trick. Nothing more, nothing less. And, like any trick, it's one that must be presented with conviction. It must be presented well. The gimmick is JUST A TOOL.

Cheers

Ben
Message: Posted by: The Mac (Apr 14, 2008 06:49AM)
But its one heck of a tool!
Message: Posted by: RooMan (Apr 14, 2008 01:11PM)
[quote]
Lets not get all hypey hypey until the things out, that way we don't get the adverse reactions when people realise its not Marty McFly's hoverboard they have bought.
[/quote]

The "hoverboard" analogy is perfect...it appears many people might be expecting just that. Personally, I hope it's NOT. Have you ever played with those mag-lev toys like a "Levitron"? Shesssshh! Almost impossible to get that dumb thing airborne
for a fumbler like me.

Besides, if it WAS a hoverboard, cruise ship magicians wouldn't be able to perform it 'cause, as you know, "hoverboards don't work on water!"
Message: Posted by: Mercury52 (Apr 14, 2008 01:24PM)
"Keep it! I got a pitbull now!" ;)

Can't wait for Enlightenment!
Message: Posted by: oombob (Apr 15, 2008 12:21AM)
As far as I can speculate, Enlightenment will be a doo-dad that when brought in close proximity with another thing-a-ma-thing, will give the impression of a card levitating when viewed from above. No more has been promised here... but that's enough for me to want these two thing-a-ma-whats under my roof a.s.a.p. so I can begin having fun with them.
Message: Posted by: Review King (Apr 15, 2008 01:04AM)
Enlightenment is a tool to accomplish some cool effects. It still will require good presentation skills ( unless you can be asleep while the magic is happening, I don't believe anything is self-working ).
Message: Posted by: simcoscor (Apr 15, 2008 08:15AM)
[quote]
On 2008-04-15 01:21, oombob wrote:
(...)Enlightenment will be a doo-dad that when brought in close proximity with another thing-a-ma-thing, will give the impression of a card levitating when viewed from above. No more has been promised here...
[/quote]

Oombob, a lot more has been promised here : no trace of the doo-dad-thing-a-ma-thing when the spectator takes & turns over the levitating card from the deck (previously fairly shuffled)that she holds in her own hands !!! [img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/8D.gif[/img]
Message: Posted by: marco1 (Apr 15, 2008 09:15AM)
When it's a dollar bill or card that's levitating over a table—it looks as though there's nothing laying on the table's surface. Is this true?
Though there is one portion of the demo that the card levitates over a book, which is what I might expect... (perhaps to hide the doo-dad-thing-a-ma-bob in).
I'm in line to purchase this beautiful effect, but was just starting to think about any restrictions that I'd have to deal with.

marco1
Message: Posted by: RooMan (Apr 15, 2008 02:49PM)
Gents...

While "Thing-a-ma-bob" is certainly proper English, I winch at "thing-a-ma-thing". "Thing-a-ma-whats" is borderline.

"Doo-dad" just makes me giggle.
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Apr 15, 2008 03:34PM)
Hi Marco,

Other than with a deck of cards, the Enlightenment MLPV.1 gimmick can be "installed" in conjunction with other objects, and for many applications:

+in conjunction with a book (to make objects float off the book)
+in conjunction with a magazine (to make objects float off the magazine)
+in conjunction with a menu (to make objects float off the menu)
+in conjunction with a note pad (to make a drawing of a butterfly float, for example)
+in conjunction with a pile of photographs (dead movie stars--seance presentattion)
+etc.

The puropse of the "install" is to make the effect you intend to perform, SELF-CONTAINED). This way, there is never anything to be found under the levitating object. All you need to do is activate the object to be levitated with your "drive magnet". The rest is self-working.

Alternately, the gimmick may be introduced via sleight of hand, if desired.

An example is a typical Floating Bill effect. Here you would introduce the gimmick via sleight of hand. However, you will probably clean-up with one of the clever "automatic clean-ups" (explained in the literature supplied).

The gimmick is a tool. It's truly MULTI-PURPOSE, and there is a whole new world of applications just waiting to be explored. You can be a part of this.

By the way, the first run of Paradigm Shifter magnets has arrived from the manufacturer. They have done a superb job. I'm so happy. This is the magnet I've always wanted. The rubber coating is done to the highest industrial standards (not just dipped). Powerful, comfortable and just ***ed classy!

Remember, if you already have a good PK magnet, you don't need the "Shifter". But, if you want a good "drive magnet" this is it!

Cheers

Ben
Message: Posted by: thehawk (Apr 15, 2008 04:27PM)
Can't wait for mine Ben.
Message: Posted by: tbaer (Apr 15, 2008 09:25PM)
[quote]
On 2008-04-15 16:34, Ben Harris wrote:
The puropse of the "install" is to make the effect you intend to perform, SELF-CONTAINED). This way, there is never anything to be found under the levitating object. All you need to do is activate the object to be levitated with your "drive magnet". The rest is self-working.
Ben
[/quote]

Personally for me this would be the only way I would perform this effect, whether the install is with a card, a dollar bill, or whatever is used. This way the spectator can grab the floating card and find nothing and you are completely clean.
Message: Posted by: Black Tiger (Apr 16, 2008 05:47AM)
Ben, any idea when the Paradigm Shifter will be with the UK dealers? I don't have a PK magnet and would like to get this at the same time as the Enlightenment package. Thanks.
Message: Posted by: marco1 (Apr 16, 2008 11:06AM)
On 2008-04-15 16:34, Ben Harris wrote:
The puropse of the "install" is to make the effect you intend to perform, SELF-CONTAINED). This way, there is never anything to be found under the levitating object. All you need to do is activate the object to be levitated with your "drive magnet". The rest is self-working.

I guess that's where I don't understand how it all works... I can understand activating a magnetic thing-a-ma-jig but not activating a playing card (unless they're magnetic cards, which was earlier ruled out).

I guess I'll just have to wait til my package arrives.
Message: Posted by: RooMan (Apr 16, 2008 01:54PM)
I don't want to get into a lot of speculation here since Ben has already been gracious enough to share a "Product Info Pack"...a first in magic from what I can tell.

However...and it's just my guess...if you go back over Ben's long list of magical creations, I believe you might stumble upon one that could be a very distant cousin of "Enlightenment".

I could be wrong. It's rare, I'll admit. But, it has happened. Once, maybe twice.

And, to quote Forrest, "That's all I got to say about that".
Message: Posted by: simcoscor (Apr 16, 2008 01:57PM)
[quote]
On 2008-04-16 12:06, marco1 wrote:
I guess that's where I don't understand how it all works... I can understand activating a magnetic thing-a-ma-jig but not activating a playing card (unless they're magnetic cards, which was earlier ruled out).
[/quote]

My guess : Liquid copper electrodes / CaO-Al2O3-CaF2 electrolyte / Sulfur reversion / reversible electrochemical process involving two electrons, etc...

No shim. [img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/instit.gif[/img]
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Apr 16, 2008 03:00PM)
BlackTiger

The Paradigm Shifters, along with Enlightenment, will be available from all dealers in the first week of May. I think you can pre-order it NOW from Alakazam.
(World Magic Shop in the UK won't have the Pardigm Shifter because they have their own range of magnets, which is fair enough).

RooMan

You are right. In fact there are several, along the path, so to speak. Cosmosis was my first attempt, but I couldn't suss it magnetically, so I fell back on threads. Alida, another one along the way, was too dirty for most at the climax. Enlightenment is the finale to my personal journey in this genre. I'm happy, and I'm done!

Only 2 weeks now... Yikes!

Ben
Message: Posted by: tdowell (Apr 16, 2008 03:14PM)
[quote]
On 2008-04-16 14:57, simcoscor wrote:
[quote]
On 2008-04-16 12:06, marco1 wrote:
I guess that's where I don't understand how it all works... I can understand activating a magnetic thing-a-ma-jig but not activating a playing card (unless they're magnetic cards, which was earlier ruled out).
[/quote]

My guess : Liquid copper electrodes / CaO-Al2O3-CaF2 electrolyte / Sulfur reversion / reversible electrochemical process involving two electrons, etc...

No shim. [img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/instit.gif[/img]
[/quote]

Chemicals, Shemicals...My guess: VOODOO!!! :firedevil:
Message: Posted by: KOTAH (Apr 17, 2008 11:34AM)
Ben Harris is brilliant. He pushes the envelope from outside the box
Message: Posted by: simcoscor (Apr 17, 2008 02:07PM)
[quote]
On 2008-04-17 12:34, KOTAH wrote:
Ben Harris is brilliant. He pushes the envelope from outside the box
[/quote]

I agree. Searching since 1979, he came out with The Right Stuff. [img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/avion.gif[/img]
Message: Posted by: RooMan (Apr 17, 2008 09:23PM)
[quote]
On 2008-04-17 15:07, simcoscor wrote:
[quote]
On 2008-04-17 12:34, KOTAH wrote:
Ben Harris is brilliant. He pushes the envelope from outside the box
[/quote]

I agree. Searching since 1979, he came out with The Right Stuff. [img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/avion.gif[/img]
[/quote]


Ok, somebody explain this to me.
Message: Posted by: oombob (Apr 17, 2008 10:16PM)
[quote]
On 2008-04-17 22:23, RooMan wrote:
[quote]
On 2008-04-17 15:07, simcoscor wrote:
[quote]
On 2008-04-17 12:34, KOTAH wrote:
Ben Harris is brilliant. He pushes the envelope from outside the box
[/quote]

I agree. Searching since 1979, he came out with The Right Stuff. with[img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/avion.gif[/img]
[/quote]


Ok, somebody explain this to me.
[/quote]

Well.. I think it was "Ed" not "Ben" Harris in "The Right Stuff".

Like a considerable amount of my posts, the explanation may very well lie in a combination of unbridled enthusiasm mixed with a very large tumbler of booze.

:D
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Apr 18, 2008 04:27AM)
Have one for me!!

Ben
Message: Posted by: simcoscor (Apr 18, 2008 09:48AM)
[quote]
On 2008-04-17 22:23, RooMan wrote:
[quote]
On 2008-04-17 15:07, simcoscor wrote:
[quote]
On 2008-04-17 12:34, KOTAH wrote:
Ben Harris is brilliant. He pushes the envelope from outside the box
[/quote]

I agree. Searching since 1979, he came out with The Right Stuff. [img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/avion.gif[/img]
[/quote]


Ok, somebody explain this to me.
[/quote]

Push the envelope :
Meaning
To attempt to extend the current limits of performance. To innovate, or go beyond commonly accepted boundaries.
Origin
This phrase came into general use following the publication Tom Wolfe's book about the space programme - The Right Stuff, 1979.
The envelope here isn't the container for letters, but the mathematical envelope. In aviation and aeronautics the term envelope is the description of the upper and lower limits of the various factors that it is safe to fly at, i.e. speed, engine power, manoeuvrability, wind speed, altitude etc. It covers all probable conditions of symmetrical manoeuvring flight.
Not so easy to achieve with magnets. But a conjurer dream…

Thinking outside the box
Used to refer to looking at a problem from a new perspective without preconceptions, sometimes called a process of lateral thought. The phrase relates to a traditional topographical puzzle called the nine dots puzzle. The challenge is to connect the dots by drawing four straight, continuous lines, and never lifting the pencil from the paper. The puzzle is easily solved, but only if you draw the lines outside of the confines of the square area defined by the nine dots themselves. Thus, the phrase "thinking outside the box" was born.
“Oblique” solution to a conjurer dream…?

In brief, Ben Harris is brillant. He pushes the envelope (using a gizmo)… [img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/boite.gif[/img]

…from outside the box (paradigm shifter) [img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/boitedouble.gif[/img]

But instead of “shim”, he might use…the right “stuff” (dropping copper?) [img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/Ballon07.gif[/img]
Message: Posted by: RooMan (Apr 18, 2008 12:27PM)
Whew...I'm gonna take a nap now.
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Apr 19, 2008 10:48PM)
We've just started a blog to count down the final days before the release of Enlightenment.

http://www.wowbound.com/blog.html

I'll try to update this every day, or every second day.

Cheers

Bwen
Message: Posted by: simcoscor (Apr 21, 2008 03:08PM)
[img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/alphabet1.gif[/img] [img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/alphabet0.gif[/img]
Message: Posted by: Ustaad (Apr 22, 2008 11:21AM)
[quote]
On 2008-04-19 23:48, Ben Harris wrote:
We've just started a blog to count down the final days before the release of Enlightenment.

http://www.wowbound.com/blog.html

I'll try to update this every day, or every second day.

Cheers

Bwen
[/quote]

Nice educative Blog.

Just to get a comparative idea (for different size drive magnets):-

When using the suggested Paradigm Shifter magnet, what is the average distance (distance between the edge of the card deck & the magnet) at which the Enlightenment Engine gets activated?

Thanks.

:xmas:
 
Message: Posted by: dreamadream99 (Apr 22, 2008 12:01PM)
Ben:
You mention in your blog, that the bigger/stronger the magnet is, the greater distance away from the gimmick it could be positioned to activate it. I'm curious about the N* rating of your magnet, and what distances you have achieved with other sized/N* rated magnets?

As performers, we may need various magnets depending on the situation. For close up we may want a few inches only. There also may be times we need to be a few feet away.

What are your discoveries/thoughts?
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Apr 22, 2008 03:22PM)
Ustaad and Dream,

Good questions. I think I should deal with them at my blog. I'd like to keep all the information together so people can reference it with ease. May I quote you guys (in part) and then address the questions as suggested?

Cheers

Ben
Message: Posted by: dreamadream99 (Apr 22, 2008 04:15PM)
You betcha.

Do you prefer we send questions to you from the blog now? (via the email link on your blog page)?
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Apr 22, 2008 04:31PM)
Hi Dream,

I think general questions should remain here at the Café.
Technical questions should go to the blog.

By the way, a big shout out to Steve Brooks who makes the forum here at The Café all possible.

Cheers

Ben
Message: Posted by: Review King (Apr 22, 2008 05:18PM)
Ben, very classy to give Steve Brooks a Shout Out word of thanks. His dream of putting Magicians in contact with each other and exchanging ideas in a positive, fantastic forum has made such an impact on the Magic World!
Message: Posted by: Ustaad (Apr 22, 2008 08:03PM)
[quote]
On 2008-04-22 16:22, Ben Harris wrote:
Ustaad and Dream,

Good questions. I think I should deal with them at my blog. I'd like to keep all the information together so people can reference it with ease. May I quote you guys (in part) and then address the questions as suggested?

Cheers

Ben
[/quote]

Dear Mr. Ben Harris,

Yes, you may kindly quote me at the blog.

Thank you.

With warm regards,

Narendra

:xmas:
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Apr 22, 2008 08:20PM)
Yo Chris,

Yes, that is very true.
I'm trying to organise a banner so as to "pay my way" so to speak.

Ben
Message: Posted by: simcoscor (Apr 22, 2008 08:52PM)
[img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/alphabet9.gif[/img]
Message: Posted by: simcoscor (Apr 23, 2008 06:35PM)
[img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/alphabet8.gif[/img][img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/insomnie.gif[/img]
Message: Posted by: Eddie Garland (Apr 23, 2008 07:14PM)
I am enjoying the blog!
Message: Posted by: Ustaad (Apr 24, 2008 01:47PM)
[quote]
On 2008-04-22 12:21, Ustaad wrote:

Just to get a comparative idea (for different size drive magnets):-

When using the suggested Paradigm Shifter magnet, what is the average distance (distance between the edge of the card deck & the magnet) at which the Enlightenment Engine gets activated?
[/quote]

OK, my question was answered at the blog. It was interesting to solve the circles so as to get the linier measurements. :)

I have one more question please.

How many bicycle cards can be lifted by the Enlightenment Engine when the Paradigm Shifter magnet is placed at the 6 inch circle border (periphery)?

Thanks!

:xmas:
Message: Posted by: simcoscor (Apr 24, 2008 03:39PM)
Dear Ben,
can you use more than one MLPV.1 gimmicks at once to obtain more height or lift more weight? THANKS!!!
[img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/usine.gif[/img] [img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/alphabet7.gif[/img]
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Apr 25, 2008 06:52AM)
Ustaad -- one

Simcoscor -- no (but you could rework it with your own bits n pieces into anything your heart desires). Remember, this is a new principle, there are hundreds of effects and applications just waiting to be created.

Ben
Message: Posted by: Christopher Williams (Apr 25, 2008 07:00AM)
This is due for release on 1st of May...is that worldwide? Or is that when your shipments are sent? Curious as to roughly when UK dealers will get this

Thanks
Message: Posted by: Ustaad (Apr 25, 2008 07:57AM)
[quote]
On 2008-04-25 07:52, Ben Harris wrote:

Ustaad -- one
[/quote]

Thank you Mr. Ben Harris.

With kind regards,

Narendra

:xmas:
Message: Posted by: Matthew Wright (Apr 25, 2008 10:44AM)
Does anyone know if any dealer will be selling this at Bristol day of Magic 4th May? I may have to take some extra money if so!
Message: Posted by: simcoscor (Apr 25, 2008 01:46PM)
[quote]
On 2008-04-17 23:16, oombob wrote:
...the explanation may very well lie in a combination of unbridled enthusiasm ...
:D
[/quote]

[img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/cancan.gif[/img] [img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/alphabet6.gif[/img]
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Apr 25, 2008 02:54PM)
Hi Guys,

We ship from Australia on May 1. Murphy's will commence wholesale distribution to dealers worldwide about May 5th or 6th.

Cheers

Ben
Message: Posted by: Bill Lhotta (Apr 25, 2008 03:27PM)
Actually it's only [img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/alphabet5.gif[/img] more days as Australia is 12-14 hours ahead of our time here in the states so it is already April 26 there!

** Bill **

[quote]
On 2008-04-25 14:46, simcoscor wrote:
[quote]
On 2008-04-17 23:16, oombob wrote:
...the explanation may very well lie in a combination of unbridled enthusiasm ...
:D
[/quote]

[img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/cancan.gif[/img] [img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/alphabet6.gif[/img]
[/quote]
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Apr 25, 2008 05:11PM)
Don't do that Bill! I was keeping that extra day up my sleeve!

LOL

Ben
Message: Posted by: simcoscor (Apr 26, 2008 02:50PM)
Denver, Colorado : [img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/ymca.gif[/img] [img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/alphabet5.gif[/img]
Northgate, Queensland : [img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/Musique.gif[/img] [img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/alphabet4.gif[/img]
Message: Posted by: Chappo (Apr 26, 2008 08:34PM)
1st of May ... That is indeed good omen. To have chosen my birth date on which to release this awesome effect is something you will not regret Mr. Harris :) I am deeply honoured :D
Message: Posted by: Andi Peters (Apr 27, 2008 02:40PM)
This looks like Mark Mason's float but without the finger.
Message: Posted by: simcoscor (Apr 27, 2008 05:14PM)
[img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/jongle.gif[/img] [img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/alphabet3.gif[/img] [img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/1.gif[/img]
Message: Posted by: Review King (Apr 27, 2008 05:17PM)
I'm setting up my girl to do this. Yesterday she asked me what I was doing ( I had my hand out, fingers pointed at the deck, which had a face up card on top, and was staring at the card ). I slide a print out on telekinisis towards her.

She said and I quote "that's a good way to waste an afternoon".

Ya, I feel sorry for her also.
Message: Posted by: APC (Apr 27, 2008 05:18PM)
Hahaha, very nice Chris. Can't wait to hear reviews of this!

Adam
Message: Posted by: Tim Jahn (Apr 27, 2008 06:07PM)
[quote]
On 2008-04-27 18:17, Christopher Kavanagh wrote:
I'm setting up my girl to do this. Yesterday she asked me what I was doing ( I had my hand out, fingers pointed at the deck, which had a face up card on top, and was staring at the card ). I slide a print out on telekinisis towards her.

She said and I quote "that's a good way to waste an afternoon".

Ya, I feel sorry for her also.
[/quote]

He-He Yeah...The wife. Man...I can't wait to get this! I'm going to have so much fun with her. :devilish:

Tim
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Apr 27, 2008 09:09PM)
A couple of product pics up at the blog.
We're sending the first run out for shrink-wrapping which will take two days, then we ship!

Ben
Message: Posted by: simcoscor (Apr 28, 2008 08:57PM)
[img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/mouton.gif[/img] [img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/mouton.gif[/img] [img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/alphabet2.gif[/img]
Message: Posted by: simcoscor (Apr 29, 2008 08:05PM)
[quote]
On 2008-04-18 05:27, Ben Harris wrote:
Have one for me!!

Ben
[/quote]

[img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/guinness.gif[/img] [img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/fete.gif[/img] [img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/beer.gif[/img] [img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/champagne.gif[/img] [img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/cocktail.gif[/img] [img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/vin.gif[/img] [img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/51.gif[/img] [img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/alphabet1.gif[/img] [img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/fete.gif[/img] [img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/beer.gif[/img] [img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/cocktail.gif[/img] [img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/vin.gif[/img] [img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/51.gif[/img] [img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/champagne.gif[/img] [img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/fete.gif[/img] [img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/vin.gif[/img] [img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/51.gif[/img] [img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/51.gif[/img] [img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/beer.gif[/img] [img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/champagne.gif[/img] [img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/vin.gif[/img] [img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/51.gif[/img] [img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/51.gif[/img] [img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/champagne.gif[/img] [img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/fete.gif[/img] [img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/beer.gif[/img]
[img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/joint.gif[/img] :bubbly:
Message: Posted by: Geoff Weber (Apr 29, 2008 08:36PM)
No joke, 43 of simcoscor's 49 posts are about enlightenment. Hope it lives up to your expectation.
Message: Posted by: thehawk (Apr 29, 2008 08:44PM)
[quote]
On 2008-04-29 21:36, Geoff Weber wrote:
No joke, 43 of simcoscor's 49 posts are about enlightenment. Hope it lives up to your expectation.
[/quote]
What about the other six?
Message: Posted by: dreamadream99 (Apr 29, 2008 08:55PM)
[quote]
What about the other six?
[/quote]

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/search_launch.php?profile_search=19352
Message: Posted by: simcoscor (Apr 29, 2008 09:17PM)
[quote]
On 2008-04-29 21:36, Geoff Weber wrote:
No joke, 43 of simcoscor's 49 posts are about enlightenment. Hope it lives up to your expectation.
[/quote]

:rotf:

(44)
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Apr 30, 2008 02:43AM)
Me too. It's just a trick!!!

Ben
Message: Posted by: Chappo (Apr 30, 2008 06:36AM)
You'll be right MR. Harris. Chookas for tomorrow, one and all! :D
Message: Posted by: Tom Lauten (Apr 30, 2008 07:10AM)
[quote]
Ben Harris wrote:
...It's just a trick!!!
[/quote]

WHAT!?!!!!

JUST A...

You ARE kidding, right?! Tell me you're kidding.....
Message: Posted by: thehawk (Apr 30, 2008 08:24AM)
What do you mean its just a trick!
Message: Posted by: Bill Lhotta (Apr 30, 2008 12:11PM)
[img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/alphabet0.gif[/img]

It's May 1 in the Land Down Under! Let the leviations begin!

** Bill **
Message: Posted by: ferrissteve (Apr 30, 2008 01:24PM)
Indeed it is, look forward to hearing what everyone has to say about this one.
Message: Posted by: simcoscor (Apr 30, 2008 02:25PM)
[img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/alphabetl.gif[/img] [img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/alphabeti.gif[/img] [img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/alphabetf.gif[/img] [img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/alphabett.gif[/img] [img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/alphabeto.gif[/img] [img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/alphabetf.gif[/img] [img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/alphabetf.gif[/img]

[quote]
On 2008-04-18 13:27, RooMan wrote:
Whew...I'm gonna take a nap now.
[/quote]

Come on RooMan, wake up! [img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/reveil.gif[/img] It's E-Day (operation Hoverboard, remember?)

(45)
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Apr 30, 2008 03:15PM)
6.05am, May 1.

Gotta call UPS about something. Gotta take that stack of cartons, all lovingly packed and "ID Checked" for customs, down to the post office. We ARE shipping on time!

Time for another coffee.

Ben
Message: Posted by: dreamadream99 (Apr 30, 2008 03:30PM)
Way to go Ben! A promise kept.
Message: Posted by: simcoscor (Apr 30, 2008 03:54PM)
[img]http://www.knut.kazimages.fr/smileys/cafe_002.gif[/img] "Hello UPS, I have 1728 boxes to be delivered...but do not worry, they weigh nothing..."

Bravo Ben!
Simon
Message: Posted by: thehawk (Apr 30, 2008 03:59PM)
Congratulations getting them out on time Ben. Looking forward to it.
Message: Posted by: dreamadream99 (Apr 30, 2008 04:21PM)
[quote]
...but do not worry, they weigh nothing..."
[/quote]

now THAT's funny.
Message: Posted by: ferrissteve (Apr 30, 2008 07:02PM)
Feel bad for the guy that gets a computer shipped next to all of the paradigm shifters. upset a guy royally once an airplane because he wanted to put his labtop next to a very strong magnetic apparatus of mine. he complained but I was bigger than he was.
Message: Posted by: tbaer (Apr 30, 2008 07:28PM)
Hopefully in a few days the reviews will start to begin.
Message: Posted by: RooMan (Apr 30, 2008 08:03PM)
[quote]
On 2008-04-30 03:43, Ben Harris wrote:
Me too. It's just a trick!!!

Ben
[/quote]

This has got to be a little scary for Ben after all this "buzz".I sense a wee bit of "creators remorse"...stage fright,an opening night "jitters" kind of thing. Keep the faith, Ben! The demo rocks, you've offered unprecedented disclosure as to method than I've ever seen and the packaging looks pretty darn classy. I'm waiting on the UPS man after I finish this post!

Which will be...NOW.
Message: Posted by: Ustaad (Apr 30, 2008 08:48PM)
[quote]
On 2008-04-30 21:03, RooMan wrote:
This has got to be a little scary for Ben after all this "buzz".I sense a wee bit of "creators remorse"...stage fright,an opening night "jitters" kind of thing.

Keep the faith, Ben! The demo rocks, [b][i]you've offered unprecedented disclosure as to method than I've ever seen[/i][/b] and the packaging looks pretty darn classy.
[/quote]

Mr. Harris was very honest in answering all questions including a few tricky ones that invariably lead to exposure (functioning of the gimmick).

We must thank & commend Mr. Harris for his bold, brave & unprecedented approach to a new effect.

Thank you & Good luck Mr. Harris!

:xmas:
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Apr 30, 2008 10:33PM)
Everyone!

The UPS guy has come and gone, the shipment clinging oddly to one inner wall of his van.

The guys and gals down at the post office have finished processing the individual orders for those who participated in the pre-release sale.

SHIPPED OFFICIALLY, 12 NOON MAY 1, 2008

Dealers will start to receive their units in about 10-12 days.
If you ordered in our pre-release sale then your units should start to arrive in 4-8 days. Some instances may be longer. The postal system is strange and inconsistent.

JITTERS?

You bet. But it's nervous ENERGY. Not doubt or worry. When you give everything to a project it shows and this, I'm confident, is an example of that.

Gotta go shred some tunes and unwind!

Ben
Message: Posted by: Mercury52 (Apr 30, 2008 10:52PM)
Many congrats Ben! Can't wait to get mine!

Kevin
Message: Posted by: Chappo (May 1, 2008 01:48AM)
Can't wait to see the reviews, though I think I can make a tentative guess as to what they will be saying ;)
Message: Posted by: RooMan (May 1, 2008 10:02AM)
[quote]
On 2008-04-30 23:33, Ben Harris wrote:
Everyone!

The UPS guy has come and gone, the shipment clinging oddly to one inner wall of his van.

[/quote]

FUNNY!!
Man, I'm excited. As a pre-release sale dude, I'm keeping an eye out for that brown van!
Message: Posted by: The Mac (May 1, 2008 12:42PM)
I just ordered enlightenment and the shifter from hanklee.org

now the wait begins.. Guess I'll only be getting it by the 20th or so (being in south africa and all)
Message: Posted by: Al Straker (May 1, 2008 09:25PM)
Got it this morning (I am in Aus). First impressions - PHENOMENAL, Ben has spared no expense or effort in bringing a magical moment of enlightenment into all our lives through discovering his entire journey to creating this piece. The results of this creative marathon are truly amazing to behold.

I am at work now so only had time to have a quick glance over it all but will post more later when I have time available. Congratulations on delivering as promised Ben!

Cheers,
Al
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (May 1, 2008 11:22PM)
Al,

I thank you, kind sir.
I look forward to your further and deeper comments, in due course.

Cheers

Ben
Message: Posted by: Al Straker (May 4, 2008 06:11AM)
OK, so here goes...

Typical day in the Al Straker household lately...wake up, must noodle around with enlightemment for a few minutes. Two hours later... whay am I so hungry? Missed breakfast again while carried away with levitating a card. Finally eat, back to Enlightenment for a bit more 'refining' of handling, subtleties etc. Seems like only minutes and the call comes up LUNCHTIME!!!! Quickly slam down a bit of grub and back to... practicing Enlightenment. And so on it goes. Gotta tell you this thing is seriously addictive, I just can't stop watching the magic!!??!#@!

I decided to build the 'Deluxe' model of Enlightenment. Ben offers two options to get your 'Enlightenment' functioning (assuming you wish to do a floating card with it), one is a quick start and the other will take a bit of construction work, nothing difficult, just some time. It took me half a day to put together the whole thing and I am very pleased with the results, it has been providing HOURS of entertainment already and that is just for me and my children. It will be thoroughly worked out at my gig next Sunday - Currumbin RSL Mother's Day Function.

This really is a paradigm shift in close up levitation. It is one of those things you perform in the mirror to yourself over and over again and you laugh and laugh as you watch this incedible suspension of a magical moment happening right in front of you. You wonder again at the creative genius of Ben Harris and the mind that conceived this amazing thing.

One thing to advise you... be very very careful when you open this thing and for goodness sake don't start playing with it before you read the instructions. It IS delicate and it IS important to follow Ben's instructions to the letter!!! Don't leave it laying around near PK gear or you may end up in tears. As long as you read Ben's booklets supplied you will have no problems.

I feel like I am almost a Jedi now with this new found 'Enlightenment', performing it really is the closest thing to creating real magic I've felt in a long time.

Long live Harris!!! :righton: :band:

Cheers,
Al
Message: Posted by: The Mac (May 4, 2008 09:50AM)
Hey Al,

Thanks for making my wait for my enlightenment to arrive more painful.
Question: 1. Whats the maximum height the card can go off the deck witout breaking anything?
Message: Posted by: yachanin (May 4, 2008 09:56AM)
Hi Ben,

I purchased Enlightenment and the Paradigm Shifter. Is there any reason to be concerned that they may be packed together? I just read Al's post about not leaving it too close to any PK gear and wondered if the close proximity in shipping is a concern.

Regards, Steve
Message: Posted by: Review King (May 4, 2008 10:01AM)
Al, thanks for the great info and exciting time your having with Ben's creation!!
Message: Posted by: thehawk (May 4, 2008 11:08AM)
We should go to THE GOOD , THE BAD AND THE GARBAGE now that it is released.
Message: Posted by: magicman899 (May 4, 2008 11:10AM)
Has anyone that has ordered from hocus pocus received theirs yet?
Message: Posted by: ferrissteve (May 4, 2008 03:52PM)
Called them the other day and they said it would be about a week or so. so patience is the game with this one.
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (May 4, 2008 05:05PM)
Al,

Thanks you for taking the time to look at this properly. I really appreciate your thoroughness. I'm so glad that you are "feeling" the the power. This is Jedi-stuff.

Thank you also for your warning about treating this with care, reading everything carefully, etc. It is too easy to rush ahead and then (possibly)damage the gimmick IF YOU DON'T READ EVERYTHING CAREFULLY--FIRST!

Thanks again Al, thanks for really "getting this", for understanding it's heart, soul and intent. I hope that your performances next week are truly amazing.


The Mac:

The maximum height is about an inch. There is no fear of breaking anything if you learn to drive properly. It's like learning a few yoyo tricks, or learning to ride a bike. Crawl before you walk. It's nothing difficult, it just demands your full attention.

Yachanin:

The Enlightenment gimmick is packed in such a way within the boxed set that it is oblivious to any magnetic pull from The Paradigm Shifter no matter the proximity. Relax. All is cool. We thought it all through. Once unpacked, YOU MUST KEEP THEM SEPARATE.

Magicman899:

Stock is enroute. Hocus Pocus will start to ship in about a week or so, as reported by Ferrissteve.

Floating Bill Demo at the blog.
http://www.wowbound.com

Cheers

Ben
Message: Posted by: Review King (May 4, 2008 06:27PM)
I don't have Enlightenment yet and am waiting with baited breath.

Some thoughts before I can report on it:

From what folks are saying, I think Ben's words mean so much "feeling" the the power. This is Jedi-stuff".

Remember from Star Wars and the Empire Strikes Back, Luke had the power, but needed to learn to control it.

I'm so pleased to hear that you can't open the box and perform Enlightenment. We'll have to learn to control the power. AMEN!
Message: Posted by: Shodan (May 4, 2008 07:39PM)
The floating bill demo looked completely awesome - this is one of the things I am most excited about.
Message: Posted by: jamie9 (May 5, 2008 06:27AM)
I just ordered mine from Hocus Pocus yesterday. I can't wait!
Message: Posted by: The Mac (May 5, 2008 06:31AM)
Star wars, jedi's..lol..magicians are such geeks
Message: Posted by: Virungan (May 5, 2008 06:43AM)
Aren't they just... I'm so glad this thing seems to be turning out to be great.. If it hadn't after all the build up in this thread I thought we were going to see another EPISODE ONE: THE PHANTOM MENACE
Message: Posted by: dreamadream99 (May 5, 2008 11:02AM)
Cool soundtrack on that floating bill demo. According to the credits, it's Ben playing on a PRS. Nice sounds Ben. I like your use of the major seventh chords with lots of reverb, to give it that ethereal, jazzy sound.
Message: Posted by: flekka (May 7, 2008 02:55AM)
Ben,
Just to let you know mine has just landed here in the UK..
Off to chester races for the next 3-days so wont have time to
give it the attension it needs just yet

john
Message: Posted by: Tim Jahn (May 7, 2008 02:24PM)
Penguin Magic has this up on the site now. It says its in stock and ships within 24 hours. So I guess the people who ordered from Ben should be getting them any day now.

I too got the letter from Ben. I was just wondering, In the letter it says that the gimmick that is used is different when you buy the custom deck. Is that true or is it the same? If so, I didn't realize that there were different gimmicks in production. Its the first I had heard about that.

Tim
Message: Posted by: RooMan (May 7, 2008 05:17PM)
Dealers got their stock through UPS. Australian Post for the pre-order crowd.
Considering UPS would've cost more than the effect itself, I guess we're ahead of the game.
Message: Posted by: Peter Nardi (May 7, 2008 05:31PM)
Hi Guys,

Just had word that we should have this in stock on Friday.

Best Regards

Peter
PS. My name is down for the first one :)
Message: Posted by: 2003 user (May 7, 2008 06:33PM)
I havn't order the Paradigm Shifter. Can I use my M5 instead ? Thanks
Message: Posted by: Al Straker (May 7, 2008 06:45PM)
2003 user - M5 should be fine.

Mac - The height of the rise is about 1 inch off the deck

Ben - We gotta jam sometime man. I have a Bachelor of Music majoring in Alto Sax & Trumpet. Still do a lot of imporvised jazz gigs.

Cheers,
Al
Message: Posted by: Review King (May 7, 2008 06:57PM)
Tim Jahn is right about Penguin having it:
http://www.penguinmagic.com/specialorderproduct.php?ID=10325

and the Paradigm Shifter:
http://www.penguinmagic.com/specialorderproduct.php?ID=10326
Message: Posted by: Ustaad (May 7, 2008 09:05PM)
[quote]
On 2008-05-07 19:57, Christopher Kavanagh wrote:
Tim Jahn is right about Penguin having it:
[/quote]

. . . and its cheaper by approx 12 Dollars + you get free shipping. And Penguin ships fast.

[quote]
On 2008-05-07 19:45, Al Straker wrote:
Mac - The height of the rise is about [b][i]1 inch off the deck[/i][/b]
[/quote]

1 inch is from the top or bottom of the deck? Can you please clarify?

Thanks!

:xmas:
Message: Posted by: Black Tiger (May 8, 2008 06:55AM)
It must be one inch off the top of the deck. One inch from the bottom of the deck is not much of a levitation, considering the deck is about 3/4-inch thick as it is.
Message: Posted by: Tim Jahn (May 8, 2008 08:10AM)
Does anyone know if extra gimmicks are going to be available? Maybe this question was already answered. If it was sorry.

What I'm getting out of all of this is that once you use your gimmick making a deck up, You pretty much have to dis-assemble it if you want to use the gimmick for something else. Is that right?

Thanks,
Tim
Message: Posted by: Ustaad (May 8, 2008 09:36AM)
[quote]
On 2008-05-08 07:55, Black Tiger wrote:
It must be one inch off the top of the deck. One inch from the bottom of the deck is not much of a levitation, considering the deck is about 3/4-inch thick as it is.
[/quote]

Black Tiger: Thank you!

:xmas:
Message: Posted by: Bill Lhotta (May 8, 2008 10:26AM)
Unless Ben makes some offer for special discounts on additional gimmicks, you may as well just pick up another one from some place like Penguin Magic where you can get it for about $60 + free shipping (assumes you have a 10% return customer discount code).

Looks like the custom full deck gimmicks Ben was offering for pre-orders won't be ready for another couple of weeks according to the letter he sent with my receipt. He did soften the blow by offering a free Bikin' to those who are waiting for their custom full deck version.

Cheers!

** Bill **

[quote]
On 2008-05-08 09:10, Tim Jahn wrote:
Does anyone know if extra gimmicks are going to be available? Maybe this question was already answered. If it was sorry.

What I'm getting out of all of this is that once you use your gimmick making a deck up, You pretty much have to dis-assemble it if you want to use the gimmick for something else. Is that right?

Thanks,
Tim
[/quote]
Message: Posted by: Tim Jahn (May 8, 2008 11:07AM)
[quote]
On 2008-05-08 11:26, Bill Lhotta wrote:
Unless Ben makes some offer for special discounts on additional gimmicks, you may as well just pick up another one from some place like Penguin Magic where you can get it for about $60 + free shipping (assumes you have a 10% return customer discount code).

Looks like the custom full deck gimmicks Ben was offering for pre-orders won't be ready for another couple of weeks according to the letter he sent with my receipt. He did soften the blow by offering a free Bikin' to those who are waiting for their custom full deck version.

Cheers!

** Bill **

[quote]
On 2008-05-08 09:10, Tim Jahn wrote:
Does anyone know if extra gimmicks are going to be available? Maybe this question was already answered. If it was sorry.

What I'm getting out of all of this is that once you use your gimmick making a deck up, You pretty much have to dis-assemble it if you want to use the gimmick for something else. Is that right?

Thanks,
Tim
[/quote]
[/quote]

Yeah I got the letter as well. I didn't order the custom deck though.

This is what I was really wanting to know. If Ben will offer discounts for gimmicks only. For those who already bought the set.

Tim
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (May 8, 2008 06:08PM)
Al,

Yes, mate, we must jam one day. How cool!

Shodan,

The Floating Bill application (or any app that is NOT a deck install) requires quite a bit of practice. You need to develop the "force" and be able to balance it with skill.

Tim,

Extra gimmicks will be available as part of the DEVELOPMENT KIT which will be out in a few months.

Custum Full Deck Install will be available shortly in Bicycle, Tally-ho and Split Spades. I've just finished a couple of sets for David Blaine in Split Spades (to a very special spec). I will advise at the blog when I am free to make more. Until then, unless you pre-ordered, no luck. Sorry. But "rules iz rules".

SPECIAL NOTE FOR THOSE ABOUT TO RECEIVE ENLIGHTENMENT!

Be SURE TO READ and understand the instructions supplied. Go to the Quick Start Manual and practice with the tumbler, as explained. MASTER IT. Proceed at your own risk if you don't! May "the force" be with you.

Cheers

Ben
Message: Posted by: Tim Jahn (May 9, 2008 07:53AM)
Thanks for the response Ben. That's what I wanted to know.

Tim
Message: Posted by: The Mac (May 9, 2008 08:19AM)
Ben,

As an owner of enlightenment it may be a bit worrying that so much info about he effect is out there. I would hate to do the effect then have some spectator google "floating card" or something come back to me with the pdf and spill the beans so to speak. Now that the effect is out are you considering a private forum or at least a question only magicians can answer before getting the PDF and details on the workings.

thanks
MAC
Message: Posted by: RooMan (May 9, 2008 10:14AM)
Excellent idea, Mac.
Message: Posted by: thehawk (May 9, 2008 12:06PM)
[quote]
On 2008-05-09 09:19, The Mac wrote:
Ben,

As an owner of enlightenment it may be a bit worrying that so much info about he effect is out there. I would hate to do the effect then have some spectator google "floating card" or something come back to me with the pdf and spill the beans so to speak. Now that the effect is out are you considering a private forum or at least a question only magicians can answer before getting the PDF and details on the workings.

thanks
MAC
[/quote]

Not many people could be bothered to google "floating card". Will some, probably but most couldn't be bothered and some might believe voodoo.
Message: Posted by: rockwall (May 9, 2008 12:36PM)
[quote]
On 2008-05-09 13:06, thehawk wrote:
Not many people could be bothered to google "floating card". Will some, probably but most couldn't be bothered and some might believe voodoo.
[/quote]

When performing privately at parties and for friends, I've actually had quite a few people attempt to google the effects I've done. I've had at least three people goodle trying to find FRAUD, (not by name), after performing the effect. One spent hours trying to google it and then finally found it. They still don't have any idea how it's done, but it's not uncommon by any means. (And these weren't just kids!)

Mike
Message: Posted by: adamc (May 9, 2008 01:10PM)
I'd make sure when performing the effect to [b]never[/b] refer to the name of it. I know this is common sense, but sometimes it can be difficult not to tip the name.

For example, I was doing the invisible deck for some co-workers a while ago, and of course I started the routine by saying "I've got an invisible deck here, etc, etc". After the routine, everyone was amazed, as they usually are by the ID, but then one of the coworkers googled "invisible deck" and moments later he was explaining to everyone how it works. It was a real downer. Yeah, the guy is a complete ***hole, but that's besides the point.

After that incident, I made sure never to mention the name of the effect I'm performing. It can be difficult to keep things secret in the age of google and youtube exposure!

As far as searching for 'floating card', or whatever else comes to mind, they'll get tons of hits, but most likely none of them will be the right one.
Message: Posted by: RooMan (May 9, 2008 01:19PM)
Still, this is an unprecedented situation. Ben has been kind enough to release an actual product info pack as well as a very detailed blog. It's a bit more possible for the determined spectator to find this particular effect.
Message: Posted by: The Mac (May 9, 2008 01:39PM)
Yes ben has been very kind in doing so I'm just a little worried that the info might be too available. The fact is its out there!
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (May 9, 2008 03:13PM)
Interesting thoughts, gentlemen.

I had not really thought that far ahead in regards this aspect of "googling" the info, etc. It may be wise to indeed make the Info Pack and possibly even this thread vanish in due course. All very interesting!

Ben
Message: Posted by: The Mac (May 9, 2008 03:52PM)
Please consider it Ben.
Message: Posted by: GarySumpter (May 9, 2008 03:53PM)
I have had this effect for about 5 hours, all made up.

I really don't know if I like it.

Its clever, the packaging is nice etc etc.

It REALLY wasnt what I was expecting and I didn't think the magician would need to be so close to the deck for the levitation to happen (practically touching the card)

I will be playing with it this weekend and hope I can find a better handling that suits me :)

Thanks

Gary
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (May 9, 2008 04:22PM)
Hi Gary,

Keenly look forward to your further feedback. Of, course, by using a stronger magnet you can activate from further away. How it's supplied is how I like to use it. Feel free to adapt and evolve the idea to best suit you.

Best of luck, look forward to the your results.

Cheers

Ben
Message: Posted by: Micheal Leath (May 9, 2008 04:31PM)
[quote]
On 2008-05-09 16:53, GarySumpter wrote:
It REALLY wasnt what I was expecting and I didn't think the magician would need to be so close to the deck for the levitation to happen (practically touching the card)
[/quote]

In the demo, it doesn't look like he is close to the deck. Is a stronger magnet used in the demo?
Message: Posted by: gmmagic124 (May 9, 2008 05:06PM)
[quote]
On 2008-05-04 07:11, Al Straker wrote:

I feel like I am almost a Jedi now with this new found 'Enlightenment', performing it really is the closest thing to creating real magic I've felt in a long time.

[/quote]

Definitely looks like Jedi stuff to me.
Pretty Coooooool.
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (May 9, 2008 07:59PM)
In the demo I may be using the drive magnet concealed under my jeans, at the knee. Several "positions" were used in the clips. A STRONGER magnet at the knee is a VERY good way to go.

Also, a powerful but small drive magnet built into a "sharpie" body is a great self-contained application.

Cheers

Ben
Message: Posted by: Ustaad (May 9, 2008 10:02PM)
[quote]
On 2008-05-09 20:59, Ben Harris wrote:
. . . a powerful but small drive magnet built into a "sharpie" body is a great self-contained application.
[/quote]

. . . or in a small Magic Wand.

A small cylindrical N-50 (1/2" Diameter X 1/2" height) magnet concealed in the tip of a hollow wand works great. ;)

:xmas:

P.S. Mark my words; I said 'works great' - Meaning it works great with the gimmick I make & use for such levitations. I am not referring to the 'Enlightenment' gimmick.
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (May 9, 2008 10:17PM)
Ustaad,

I think that any of these would be made to work.

We have an application in development where the lid of a card box contains a mini drive magnet. It's close proximity allows it to work.

The DEVELOPMENT KIT will be available in a couple of months. Lots of applications (and non-assembled Engine bits) for you to assemble/explore at home. Keep an eye out for it.

Ben
Message: Posted by: Ustaad (May 9, 2008 10:34PM)
[quote]
On 2008-05-09 23:17, Ben Harris wrote:
Ustaad,

I think that any of these would be made to work.

We have an application in development where [b][i]the lid of a card box contains a mini drive magnet. It's close proximity allows it to work.

The DEVELOPMENT KIT will be available in a couple of months. Lots of applications (and non-assembled Engine bits) for you to assemble/explore at home.[/i][/b] Keep an eye out for it.

Ben
[/quote]

WOW! Great! Good news. Thanks!

These are the kind of things I look forward to - the DIY way! :)

PMed you with regards to the card box used as a driver for the 'Enlightenment'.

:xmas:
Message: Posted by: joseph (May 10, 2008 06:50AM)
I'm more attracted to this every day.. :) ...
Message: Posted by: GarySumpter (May 10, 2008 09:53AM)
To be fair if a stronger magnet is a better choice, why did I pay £19.99 for the 'best magnet for the effect, designed for enlightenment' ?

Not starting an arguement but I am a bit peeved, having spent £70, to find that the effect really isn't what it seemed to be and in order to get the desired effect, a sronger magnet is required....

Gary
Message: Posted by: thehawk (May 10, 2008 09:57AM)
[quote]
On 2008-05-10 10:53, GarySumpter wrote:
To be fair if a stronger magnet is a better choice, why did I pay £19.99 for the 'best magnet for the effect, designed for enlightenment' ?

Not starting an arguement but I am a bit peeved, having spent £70, to find that the effect really isn't what it seemed to be and in order to get the desired effect, a sronger magnet is required....

Gary
[/quote]
I also bought the whole package from Ben but it hasn't arrived yet. Try a stronger magnet Gary and let us know if it improves the effect. If the magnet he sells doesn't work properly he should refund your money for the magnet especially if it requires a stronger one.
Message: Posted by: GarySumpter (May 10, 2008 09:59AM)
To be honest I don't want to spend any more money on it as I really don't think I will use the effect.

Gary
Message: Posted by: king42262 (May 10, 2008 10:07AM)
I seem to be having problems getting it to work ,anyone else having this problem?
Message: Posted by: GarySumpter (May 10, 2008 10:10AM)
It works for me, as long as I am a few millimetres from the deck, which doesn't suit me.

Not sure if that's how its supposed to be.
Message: Posted by: GarySumpter (May 10, 2008 10:31AM)
Ben,

a few things.

Firstly, I think it needs to be made clear that if you want to do the floating card effect in the spectators hand (as seen in the demo) then this cant be done with the Paradigm Shifter.

Secondly, in the demo, the card floats, then its shown both sides, with the next few cards each being displayed. That doesn't seem to make much sense to me? I made the simpler version to start with and this wouldnt be possible...

Could you shine some light? Either here or via pm?

Gary
Message: Posted by: king42262 (May 10, 2008 11:08AM)
Just managed to get mine working id say from roughly 3inchs away but one question and as I bought this for the effect performed in the spectators hand how will this be possible if the Paradigm Shifter only works from that distance ??
Message: Posted by: GarySumpter (May 10, 2008 11:10AM)
You need to buy a stronger M.
Message: Posted by: king42262 (May 10, 2008 11:28AM)
Maybe one you could where on your back like a rucksack! lol
Message: Posted by: Black Tiger (May 10, 2008 11:31AM)
Guys, as stated on the blog, the Paradigm Shifter must be held within 4-6 inches of the Enlightenment Engine in order to activate it and levitate the card. This photo illustrates the point clearly...

[img]http://i31.tinypic.com/303cq6g.jpg[/img]

If yours is only working from a distance of millimetres, I would suggest there is a fault either with the PS or the EE. It's hard to tell from the perspective of the photo, but it looks as though the finger is more or less directly above the deck. Personally, I still think this would be very impressive to witness; if you want/need to perform the levitation from further away, then the PS is not for you and you will need a stronger PK magnet. I think Ben has been quite clear about this from the outset.
Message: Posted by: GarySumpter (May 10, 2008 11:36AM)
I don't read his blog and wouldnt expect to have to.

My review- http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=257759&forum=109&0
Message: Posted by: king42262 (May 10, 2008 11:37AM)
Even so with a distance of 4-6 inches how will it be possible to perform it in the spectators hand as shown on the demo ?????
Message: Posted by: Black Tiger (May 10, 2008 11:54AM)
[quote]
On 2008-05-10 12:36, GarySumpter wrote:
I don't read his blog and wouldnt expect to have to.

My review- http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=257759&forum=109&0
[/quote]

Personally, if I was going to spend £70 on a magic purchase, I would be doing as much research as possible; this would include reading this thread in its entirety, reading the short blog and reading the product info pack.

Your review is good; it sounds like an honest opinion of Enlightenment and should help others to decide if they should make the purchase or not. For what it's worth, yes, I agree that the PS is perhaps a little overpriced for what it is, but so are many other magic items out there. I guess its value depends on your personal circumstances. To a working pro, for example, the PS is probably quite cheap, but to a hobbyist it is quite expensive.

In any case, misunderstandings will always occur. I'm not saying you're wrong and Ben is right or vice versa. If you or anyone else is unhappy with your purchase, I would like to think Ben will address your concerns either publicly on this thread or privately by PM. Whatever happens, I hope you eventually get some use out of this and don't feel you have wasted £70. All the best.
Message: Posted by: GarySumpter (May 10, 2008 11:56AM)
Fair comments mate.

I never usually give in to hype, I read several long threads on here and looked at the info pack.

That should be enough to make a decision.

Gary
Message: Posted by: Black Tiger (May 10, 2008 12:06PM)
By the way, and I could be wrong here, but I don't think the information regarding distance from PS and EE (4-6 inches) has been given in this thread or the info pack. It only appears on the blog. To help avoid any misunderstandings, perhaps it would have been a good idea to state this information in the info pack as well as the blog. Then again, Ben has been so forthright with disclosing the method for Enlightenment in the weeks/months prior to its release, that maybe he has already given out too much information? Food for thought. To my knowledge, this is the first time a creator of an effect has been so open about the methodology prior to its release; with other expensive items you might get a brief description of the effect and would have to take your chances.
Message: Posted by: The Mac (May 10, 2008 12:26PM)
Wait a minute,

Will an M5 give you better range? If so then perhaps that should be said at the outset because I thought the Shifter was the Ideal magnet (ideal meaning strong enough to power it from a suitable range like in the demo)

If a different magnet was used in the demo it should be stated in subtitle or at least in the info pack.

I hope Ben will "enlighten" us!
I think that he should really start a private forum on this though.
Message: Posted by: GarySumpter (May 10, 2008 12:47PM)
That was one of the things that annoyed me. I feel really let down by this.
Message: Posted by: The Mac (May 10, 2008 12:52PM)
So lets get this straight. PLease correct if I'm wrong:

1. The spectator cannot look under the card when is levitating
2. The effect with the lady in the demo is impossible with the prescribed Magnet
3. The top cards cannot be looked at after the levitation

:( please tell me I'm wrong cuz I feel like I have a "hole in the head" now.
Message: Posted by: GarySumpter (May 10, 2008 12:55PM)
1. Correct
2. I would say that's true, certainly when I have tried it, I have to be touching the cards.
3.Top CARD can
Message: Posted by: The Mac (May 10, 2008 12:59PM)
I'm really thinking of cancelling my order now.
Message: Posted by: king42262 (May 10, 2008 01:37PM)
Even if you could find a magnet powerful enough to perform this in the spectators hand allowing the spec to take the card while floating personaly I cannot see this working for those of you who have it will no what I mean !
Message: Posted by: GarySumpter (May 10, 2008 01:39PM)
Just as I said mate, no chance!
Message: Posted by: king42262 (May 10, 2008 01:59PM)
Im sure some people will like this effect but for me I feel let down, after Hole in the Head I looked at this with caution but then after viewing the info pack I decide to give it a go !
The main effect that I bought this for to me and others now seems very unlikely so for me its a Thumbs Down!!!!
Message: Posted by: The Mac (May 10, 2008 02:07PM)
Well I really thought the spectator could look under the card and grab it out of the air because of these quotes found in this thread by Mr. Harris :

PAGE1 : The spectator may grab the floating card and look under it. They find nothing attached to the card. They find nothing under it.



magic168 asked :
So here's the big question for you, Ben...what would've happened if the woman did what any OTHER spectator would've done...look UNDERNEATH the card while it was floating in her hand?

MR Harris Replied :
Magic168 - the lady DOES LOOK UNDER the card right towards the end of the video.

The spectator's can grab the card at ANY TIME. That is the real strength of this. You have a genuine levitation in that the card floats up and down, all under your control, and the spectators can GRAB the card at ANYTIME. There is nothing attatched and nothing below, just the way it SHOULD be.
(his capatalization )

...
Message: Posted by: GarySumpter (May 10, 2008 02:12PM)
Well that end bit is an outright lie. the spec can NOT grab the card at any time and there IS something below the floating card.
Message: Posted by: Tim Jahn (May 10, 2008 02:20PM)
A qoute from Ben made in this thread over a month ago.

_________________________________________________________________________________


Hi Guys,

There are tricky things being discussed here. Especially the "Can the spectator look under the card?" sort of questions.

The answer is both YES and NO!

You cannot look directly under the card while it is floating, you need your audience to be looking SLIGHTLY down upon the floating card. If you LOOK AT THE VIDEO DEMO you will get a good idea of the latitude allowable with the angles. However, that being said, the floating card my be grabbed, turned over, and examined at any time without discovering anything. So the answer is yes and no!

Considering that the spectator just SHUFFLED the deck, nominated and removed ANY CARD, (and you have not added or taken away anything), is to me, more than sufficiently fair. Especially since your are automatically clean if the spectator grabs the card.

Cheers

Ben
______________________________________________________________________________

Tim
Message: Posted by: GarySumpter (May 10, 2008 02:24PM)
'The answer is both YES and NO!' - really though, its no.

'the floating card my be grabbed, turned over, and examined at any time without discovering anything' - Seriously? I don't think so....
Message: Posted by: Y2John (May 10, 2008 02:47PM)
Wait... you can't look under the card lol... I thought that was one of the things that made this what it is.
If not then why pay out for something that can be achieved with something costing in the pennies.

I don't know... I was gonna order monday and so am happy this thread is here.
Message: Posted by: GarySumpter (May 10, 2008 02:49PM)
Its one of those things that is a more advanced way of doing something that doesn't REALLY take the effect any further....

Seems everyone has been fooled by what they have read.
Message: Posted by: Review King (May 10, 2008 03:30PM)
I posted this in the review section. Just some thoughts:

___________
I do not have Enlightenment at this time ( it's on its way ) so I'm only talking from a standpoint of how I've been thinking about it ( it's been in my head since Ben first shared the specs that he later shraed with everyone else ).

...and how I would react when getting it. I say that because so much in magic can be a sort of let down when the secret is known ( which is why we learn early not to divulge the secret as it always disappoints a lay person when they learn the secret ).

Dan Harlan's Hover Card, which I think is one of the greatest tricks ever invented, disappointed so many folks. Why? Because the card didn't really float and there was an angle issue, etc. If they had tried it in real time ( for lay folk ) they would have been surprised by the incredible reactions.

That being said, I think those that spent hard earned money on Enlightenment should practice and routine what they have and then perform it. What if you hated it when you opened the box, but the reactions you got from folks where worth 10 times the investment?

I think a subtle rise is the best. I was hoping it wouldn't be 5 inches off the card, or it would be easy right out of the box, etc. If we had the power to make that card "move" it should be a small movement. We should treat this like a PK effect and pour our acting into it.

The card, if it slightly moved by our minds would be a miracle. They will be shocked by the float. Doing the effect once, they will not loook under the card or try to figure it out. Ben mentioned the angles before releasing it.

Again, I don't have it yet, but I feel this is important in performing it:

1). Not your opening effect. WIn them over so they believe you can do some things that aren't just tricks.

2) Do Enlightenment and don't do it again ( the Magic second commandment ) One time only. You're too drained to repeat it. You don't know how you do it in the first place.

3) Do not perform for people you know that love to try and figure things out.

OK, I'm waiting for the Postman now!
Message: Posted by: GarySumpter (May 10, 2008 03:32PM)
Posted three times so far!
Message: Posted by: Review King (May 10, 2008 03:34PM)
[quote]
On 2008-05-10 16:32, GarySumpter wrote:
Posted three times so far!
[/quote]

Well, there are so many threads about this and I am saying that I posted elsewhere.

Are you implying something? If so, say it outright.
Message: Posted by: GarySumpter (May 10, 2008 03:38PM)
Not at all, just keep seeing it spring up.
Message: Posted by: Review King (May 10, 2008 03:40PM)
[quote]
On 2008-05-10 16:38, GarySumpter wrote:
Not at all, just keep seeing it spring up.
[/quote]

You'd have a point if I failed to say I posted it elsewhere.
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (May 10, 2008 03:41PM)
Wow,

Can't believe all of this.

Look guys, I have done everything I can to be fair and honest.

The effect is supplied with the Paradigm Shifter because this is the way I do it, how I use it. The effect in the video was performed with a paradigm shifter and other larger magnets. One was at the knee and activated the rise from behind. The effect can be performed in the spectator's own hand without any fear. If you want to activate the unit from a slightly greater distance, then use a stronger magnet. I've always said that.

This s a new way to go about using magnets to create levitation effects. Take it , grow it. I've given you my best shot. History will show the outcome.

If you don't like the effect, fair enough. But don't for one second imply that there has been any deliberate deception, because that just ****ing kills me.

Ben



Ben
Message: Posted by: GarySumpter (May 10, 2008 03:44PM)
Perhaps you could comment on the questions in my review Ben?

Your reply could be the difference between the bin and the magic bag.
Message: Posted by: Wesker (May 10, 2008 03:54PM)
Ben,

I am still waiting on my dealer to get Enlightenment (Thursday) and I am interested in your magnet set up with the paradigm shifter and the one at the knee. I know this was mentioned before, but I think a private forum would really benefit this effect.

Alternatively, could you PM me that setup? I'd like to get started with that as a soon as possible.

Still looking foward to Enlightenment, don't let anyone get you down.
Message: Posted by: king42262 (May 10, 2008 03:56PM)
Ben ,
is there a size/strength magnet you could recommend for performing this in a spectators hand ?
Message: Posted by: ferrissteve (May 10, 2008 04:05PM)
Looks like this effect will be a love it or hate variety.
Message: Posted by: joseph (May 10, 2008 04:26PM)
Yup...
Message: Posted by: Review King (May 10, 2008 04:37PM)
Welll....this is one effect that was not hyped. Ben tipped the method, released the specs, answered quetsions, put out a video demo, etc. He was upfront about it all. If anyone finds that the effect isn't for them, that's one thing. But to make accusations about being mislead is unfair and wrong.

TRY IT in peformance before saying you don't like it. Isn't that the fair thing to do?
Message: Posted by: Corey K (May 10, 2008 04:40PM)
I agree. I respect everyone's opinion because that's what it is, an opinion. I don't think any magic effect, video or book has been released that has received pure praise and no hatred. But please, at least try it out on someone before coming to the conclusion that you don't like it.

Bottom line is, Ben gave us more information than anyone releasing an effect is required and THEN some. The hype was purely brought out by us, the magicians, who are excited about the effect. I for one stand by Ben - he took us all behind the scenes as much as he could without going overboard, and basically said 'take it or leave it'.

Deception? Lies? I don't think so.

Cheers, Ben! I can't wait to get one.
Message: Posted by: GarySumpter (May 10, 2008 04:41PM)
'But to make accusations about being mislead is unfair and wrong.'

Yes it is.

However, if you see my review thread, you will see why people have been mislead.
Message: Posted by: ferrissteve (May 10, 2008 05:05PM)
Ben did release a plethora of information before its release, and he told us what it was about. granted not every excruciating detail was given, but the main ideas were presented and it was up to us to go from there. however, despite the disappoint of some lets not forget that its the spectators we are out to fool. and if it nails them hard, than the prop/effect has done its job.
Message: Posted by: Xcath1 (May 10, 2008 05:28PM)
My two cents. I agree, that if you have been following the boards and blogs, enough info was given (way more than usual) about the methods and limitations of the effect that you would generally know what you were getting into. I also think there were enough questions left unanswered (buyer beware) that a person might think that limitations with previous floating card tricks had been completely solved and I do not think that is the case been (as per Sumpter review). I purchased and have received the effect. Although I have not tried it in front of an audience yet, I suspect that in some way or another I will. However, the in the spectators hand performance as seen in the video demo and implied in the ads I do not see as practical without significant "audience management" skills and a different magnet than the one being offered with the effect. Although again admitting I have not yet tried, it is hard to imagine giving a deck this gaffed out for a spectator to shuffle. Close reading of the ad copy may have made this clear, but I was surprised. It is also clearly not possible to remove any card from the top of the deck other than the one that was used for the effect. Additionally, although this is quite subjective, and although I purchased it with a clear mind, I do not believe it to be a particularly good value (bang for the buck). For such tricks I would look for the items that were mentioned repeatedly in the “best trick you bought this year thread.”
Although I hate to make an enemy of a guy I don’t know, I do find Christopher Kavanagh’s entries to particularly “plug” like. I can’t quite put my finger on it and he may be a decent and honest guy but I do not make my purchases based on his recommendations.
Message: Posted by: Review King (May 10, 2008 06:24PM)
[quote]
On 2008-05-10 18:28, Xcath1 wrote:
....Although I hate to make an enemy of a guy I don’t know, I do find Christopher Kavanagh’s entries to particularly “plug” like. I can’t quite put my finger on it and he may be a decent and honest guy but I do not make my purchases based on his recommendations......
[/quote]

Xcath1, what product have I recommended, that you bought and didn't agree with me? Have I "plugged" as you claim, an item that you found did not work in the real world?

That might be a bit more fairer than to suggest there is an air of dishonesty about me by saying "I do find Christopher Kavanagh’s entries to particularly “plug” like. I can’t quite put my finger on it...."

If you have something to say about me, then say it. Playing silky word games sounds a bit...well, I'm sure you can put your finger on it.. You see, there are products I don't like and the friends of those people create anonymous accounts on the Café and make statements about me. I know, it seems childish because people that bought products I have used in the real world, and gave a positive review, have been quite pleased with their purchase.

On Enlightenment, I stated that Ben Harris contacted me to send me the specs on his new creation. Ben did that because he knows I do not care what anyone thinks about my reviews as my reputation for knowing "what works" means everything to me. He took a gamble before it was even released. He takes another when when I receive it.

I don't have the final Enlightenment product as Ben made sure that those that purchased it received it before I got the one he wanted me to review. That says allot about Ben's integrity.

When I get Enlightenment, I'll work on it, perform it and then report back. Maybe I'll hate it, maybe I'll love it. Maybe I'll have an opinion in between. But it will be my opinion based on performing it for people I don't know. Ben and I agreed that I would tell folks about Ben contacting me ( Ben's sugesstion ) and Ben made it clear that even though he was sending it to me, that my review was my own and that I owed him nothing. He siad "love it or hate, I want your honest opinion".

The Café review sections are allot like when news anchors "read the mail" after interviewing a Presidential candidate.. Half say the interviewer did a poor job and treated "xxx" like they were their friend, so they must be voting for them. The other half say the interviewer was far harsher on candidate "xxx" and must be voting for the other candidate. lol. It can't be both ways, now can it?

I guess people see what they want and then write words to support "their" argument, even if it accuses folks of phantoms that aren't there.
Message: Posted by: Tim Jahn (May 10, 2008 08:06PM)
[quote]
On 2008-05-10 18:28, Xcath1 wrote:

Although I hate to make an enemy of a guy I don’t know, I do find Christopher Kavanagh’s entries to particularly “plug” like. I can’t quite put my finger on it and he may be a decent and honest guy but I do not make my purchases based on his recommendations.
[/quote]

I'd really like to hear what product you bought on Chris' recommendation that you didn't like.

On the contrary I have found Chris' reviews more that helpful on many occasions. He has always been more that honest and forthcoming about his feelings.

Now if we could please get back to the topic and hand, That would be super.

Tim
Message: Posted by: thehawk (May 10, 2008 08:10PM)
After reading numerous posts of Chris's I can say if he doesn't like something he will say so. If he likes it he will praise it. I trust his opinion here more than some when a new product comes out and they praise it and they have 5 posts.
Keep up the good work Chris, who knows we might have a disagreement on this as mine has not arrived yet. We do agree on Hovercard.
Message: Posted by: evolve629 (May 10, 2008 08:16PM)
[quote]
On 2008-05-10 17:37, Christopher Kavanagh wrote:
Welll....this is one effect that was not hyped. Ben tipped the method, released the specs, answered quetsions, put out a video demo, etc. He was upfront about it all. If anyone finds that the effect isn't for them, that's one thing. But to make accusations about being mislead is unfair and wrong.
[/quote]
Ditto!
Message: Posted by: Xcath1 (May 10, 2008 08:29PM)
Obvioulsy over-ruled
Message: Posted by: Ustaad (May 10, 2008 09:27PM)
[quote]
On 2008-05-10 13:06, Black Tiger wrote:

To my knowledge, [b][i]this is the first time a creator of an effect has been so open about the methodology prior to its release; with other expensive items you might get a brief description of the effect and would have to take your chances.[/i][/b]
[/quote]

Too much info >>> Too much expectations. Less info >>> Less expectation. :)

[quote]
On 2008-05-10 16:41, Ben Harris wrote:

If you want to activate the unit from a slightly greater distance, then use a stronger magnet. I've always said that.
[/quote]

Sorry, I beg to differ on this point. The solution to the problem doesn’t lie in using a bigger & stronger shift magnet. It lies within the Enlightenment gimmick. With a slight increase in the strength of the Enlightenment gimmick it will cause the gimmick to rise from a greater distance using the same suggested shift magnet. But this might not be possible to do in a prefabricated gimmick. Those who have the Enlightenment gimmick will know what I am talking about. I [b]don't[/b] have the [b]'Enlightenment'[/b] but I know what I am talking about. :) ;)

[quote]
On 2008-05-10 16:41, Ben Harris wrote:

But don't for one second imply that there has been any deliberate deception, because that just ****ing kills me.
[/quote]

[quote]
On 2008-05-10 17:37, Christopher Kavanagh wrote:

Welll....this is one effect that was not hyped. Ben tipped the method, released the specs, answered quetsions, put out a video demo, etc. He was upfront about it all. If anyone finds that the effect isn't for them, that's one thing. But to make accusations about being mislead is unfair and wrong.
[/quote]

Mr. Harris is a class act and a true gentleman. He has been honest and straightforward. Mr. Harris hasn’t misled anybody. In fact, he has very honestly exposed the working of the effect / gimmick to help you make your own well informed buying decision(s). All questions, including the tricky ones leading to straight exposure, have been answered honestly. [b]What else do you need?[/b]

I have great regards for Mr. Harris and for my good friend Chris.

:xmas:
Message: Posted by: Bill Lhotta (May 10, 2008 10:45PM)
You can go to http://www.kjmagnetics.com/ if you are looking for a different sized magnet at a reasonable price. They also have rubber coated magnets for some of the sizes.

Cheers!

** Bill **
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (May 10, 2008 11:37PM)
Bill,

they are a great source for magnets. Great place if you want a bunch of different sizes to play with.

Ben
Message: Posted by: Black Tiger (May 11, 2008 05:32AM)
The way I see it, this is the bottom line: Ben has created a product that was given an unprecedented amount of information in the weeks/months leading up to its release - far, far more than any magic item before or since. That much is undeniable. In common with EVERY magic item out there, we, as magicians, make our own decisions on what to purchase and what to leave on the shelf.

You get an interest in something, you might do some research on it before parting with your hard-earned, you order it, you receive it and you read the instructions before playing around with it. At this point, you will either like it or you won't. It will either fit in with your style or it won't. It will either get used or it won't.

My opinion is that Ben has given out more than enough details about Enlightenment so that a potential customer can make a well-informed decision. I should add, however, that I have not ordered Enlightenment yet so I am not in a position to make valid judgements on whether the information given was accurate or not. But I wll say that for a creator of an effect to deliberately mislead customers in order to secure sales, would be stupidity to the most extreme level. Magic is a niche market and creators as well as magic dealers simply cannot afford to lose the trust and loyalty of customers. If I receive poor service from a particular dealer, I will likely go elsewhere next time and that dealer would have lost my custom. If I purchase a poor effect from a creator and feel I have been misled, I will be very wary of their future creations. In short, I will not trust them. Creators and dealers can ill afford this and to deliberately mislead your customer base is akin to committing financial suicide.

No one can expect Ben to give out every piece of information regarding the method for Enlightenment. There will always be bits that are left out (intentionally or otherwise). This is to be expected; and as we all know already, the amount of details freely available for Enlightenment is unprecedented.

When it comes to making magic purchases, especially the more expensive ones like Enlghtenment, I will NEVER place a pre-order. I always wait for the dust to settle and take the opportunity to read reviews before making my decision. If you place pre-orders for something or order it very shortly after its release, you run the very real risk of being disappointed. Why be the guinea pig when plenty of others will gladly do it? Do you really need Enlightenment so badly that you can't wait a few days for reviews to surface before deciding?
Message: Posted by: r1ch-oxford (May 11, 2008 08:52AM)
Hi Guys

My Enlightment arrived yesterday and I been playing around with it. I must say as a working professional I really don't see how this is practical in the real world. I agree you could angle it correctly so that the spectator holding the deck does not look under the card, however if there is more than one spectator I am fairly sure at least one of the other spectators would bend down and look at what is happening underneath. You have to get so close with the magnet to make things happen that it actually takes away from the levitation. What sells really great levitation effects to a lay audience is the isolation of the object when it is hovering. An example being when you are able to take a step back from a floating bank note with an ITR.

I do not feel Ben has misled me in anyway, I applaud the information that was available before I decided to purchase the effect and I have no ill feelings towards any of the marketing of the effect. I also do not think it is overpriced, there has clearly been an enormous amount of work and development that has gone into this unique method and is worth the price. The booklets have also had a lot of thought put into them and are fantastic.

In conclusion though, this will not be taking up any of my valuable pocket space at any gigs in the future, ill stick with the ITR.

Rich
Message: Posted by: Rick (May 11, 2008 03:45PM)
So far just 2 days now..ive had 2 good ways of using this in a patter form that is..im trying to think outside the box and incorp this into multiple effects...one, if you have a sanctum card as I do...he,he, this can be very dark....once again don't give up...just think when you got your cups and balls you said...now what......remember..but then with some thinking..you probably created good magic ,,,your own way with it...thats the way you have to look at this effect...ENLIGHTMENT. Thanks Ben....keep riding bro...
Message: Posted by: Tim Jahn (May 11, 2008 05:22PM)
Well it looks like its sort of turning out to be 50/50 in the love it or hate it department.

We will see how it turns out.

Tim
Message: Posted by: thehawk (May 11, 2008 07:59PM)
The hate it scream louder than the like it.
Message: Posted by: Al Straker (May 11, 2008 09:56PM)
Hi All,

Wow this thread has certainly 'developed' since I last visited it!!

I must add that I agree that Chris is an honest poster and very fair.

For those who say Enlightenment is impractical - I performed this at a gig on Sunday for a mother's day function. These were families of mixed age groups seated at various size tables for lunch. I avoided doing this for the large round tables but did perform it for the smaller tables where angles could be managed and everyone would still have a good view. You do have to keep the deck in an appropriate position (fairly low and close to the specs) in performance but that is part of the deal with most good rising levitations right??

I based the routine on Ambitious card and used Enlightenment to close it. My patter throughout was about the card RISING to the top. I rung in the Enlightenment deck at the end just before it was needed.

When I did the Enlightenment phase I introduced it by saying "People often ask me... What happens if the card is already on top when you make it rise?" and then went into Enlightenment. I had someone else check the signed card again and place it face up on top themselves. I then did enlightenment (using the PS). As it landed back on the deck I gestured towards them to pick it up again and check it again. As they did this I reached into my pocket for my card box, (oops wrong pocklet) and switched out the deck. I then immediately handed the deck to someone else to be checked. There was no heat on the switch as you could imagine and everything was left clean and examinable.

So how did it play?? Well... no one dropped to their knees and started woshipping. IT'S JUST ANOTHER F***KING MAGIC TRICK TO THEM. However it is a very STRONG and FUN one! The fact they place the card on top themselves and then pick it up afterwards it what sells it. This routine was very well received by my family audiences and showed that it IS a worker that can be used in the real world. It certainly created a 'buzz' reaction and a lot of interest. I'm sure with more work and polish on my part it will be even better.

So Ben, thanks man I really like your trick!! It's a keeper.

Cheers,
Al
Message: Posted by: Ustaad (May 11, 2008 09:58PM)
[quote]
On 2008-05-11 20:59, thehawk wrote:
The hate it scream louder than the like it.
[/quote]

:)

That can be directly attributed to parting with too much of prerelease information on the effect, which greatly raised ones expectations. A good lesson learnt!

Nevertheless it did have a booming sale! ;)

:xmas:
Message: Posted by: Silvio Solaris (May 12, 2008 12:34AM)
Unfortunately magic and its 'trade secrets' are too much exploited thanks to the web. It is an epidemic destroying the art of magic. Please don't tell me that even some laymen who know the secret the performance will overshadow the 'method'.

My goal is to join forces with magicians to go against the exposure on the www.
I am surprised that nobody in our profession has yet taken responsibility and do something about it.

Check this out: http://www.squidoo.com/crissangelmagicsecrets

That's just one of many good tricks revealed....

Especially the secret of a new revolutionary and genious method like Enlightenment should not be treated lightly and the method freely discussed.

Ben, Gentlemen I think it is time to move this subject into a private forum and delete this post.

My two cents.

Silvio
Message: Posted by: Silvio Solaris (May 12, 2008 12:45AM)
[quote]
On 2008-05-11 09:52, r1ch-oxford wrote:
Hi Guys

My Enlightment arrived yesterday and I been playing around with it. I must say as a working professional I really don't see how this is practical in the real world. I agree you could angle it correctly so that the spectator holding the deck does not look under the card, however if there is more than one spectator I am fairly sure at least one of the other spectators would bend down and look at what is happening underneath. You have to get so close with the magnet to make things happen that it actually takes away from the levitation. What sells really great levitation effects to a lay audience is the isolation of the object when it is hovering. An example being when you are able to take a step back from a floating bank note with an ITR.

I do not feel Ben has misled me in anyway, I applaud the information that was available before I decided to purchase the effect and I have no ill feelings towards any of the marketing of the effect. I also do not think it is overpriced, there has clearly been an enormous amount of work and development that has gone into this unique method and is worth the price. The booklets have also had a lot of thought put into them and are fantastic.

In conclusion though, this will not be taking up any of my valuable pocket space at any gigs in the future, ill stick with the ITR.

Rich
[/quote]

For someone who has never seen a levitation, like the dollar bill up close, would certainly jump when he sees Enlightenment for the first time...
You can start with enlightenment which method is superclean (kudos to Ben) and then do the dollar Bill. Nobody would suspect any ITR. Or you could start to levitate the bill with enlightenment and after the spectators examined the bill do the 'hovering'. That even gives you enough misdirection to attach your anchor.
Message: Posted by: Ustaad (May 12, 2008 12:53AM)
[quote]
On 2008-05-12 01:34, Silvio Solaris wrote:
* Especially the secret of a new revolutionary and genious method like Enlightenment should not be treated lightly and the method freely discussed.

* Ben, Gentlemen I think it is time to move this subject into a private forum and delete this post.
[/quote]

Very well put. I second that.

:xmas:
Message: Posted by: Silvio Solaris (May 12, 2008 02:26AM)
Thanks Narandra,

Your slogan should be written on top of every magic instruction/trick that is sold as 'reminder':

MAGIC is a SECRET, without the SECRET, there is no MAGIC.

...and 'invisibly' tatooed on every magicians forehead...ok, maybe we don't have to go that far ;)

Seriously Gentlemen, if some of us would join forces we can definatively achieve something to cut down the exposure on the www. That issue I adressed and was my first post here at the Café. I was quite surprised that a lot of the response was 'care less' and received comment's like: 'There is nothing you can do about it' and 'A good performer overshadows the method'...I don't think so. As soon as I get my project out of the baby shoes I want to dedicate part of my time to start a non-exposure campaign.
Message: Posted by: Shodan (May 12, 2008 03:36AM)
Hi Ben,

Unfortunately for me I had to order enlightenment and the PS from two different sources - Enlightenment has arrived but I'm still waiting on the magnet so all I can do is sit and think over the possibilities.

As with all tricks there are those who will like it and those that won't. I think that you're picking up a lot of unwarranted flack from those that were expecting "real magic" - or as close as ***ed to it - and were disappointed to find out that it is indeed "just" a trick.

The method was exactly what I was expecting and I was very pleased with the quality of the product I recieved. I was never that interested in the floating card - I do loads of card tricks, I want to levitate something DIFFERENT! However, you have demonstrated a floating card in the spectator's hand on the first demo video, and now there are those saying it can't be done, which I find bizarre. I imagine that its first and foremost about selecting the right audience member for the job (something which Ed Marlo wrote about - he even designed an opening routine specifically to identify these people!) and then, as you say, its about audience management.

So I am very much looking forward to recieving my PS magnet and getting to grips with a very cool little levitation effect.

All the best,
David.
Message: Posted by: Ustaad (May 12, 2008 07:34AM)
[quote]
On 2008-05-12 04:36, Shodan wrote:
As with all tricks there are those who will like it and those that won't. I think that you're picking up a lot of unwarranted flack from those that were expecting "real magic" - or as close as ***ed to it - [b][i]and were disappointed to find out that it is indeed "just" a trick.[/i][/b]
[/quote]

A good 15 days before the release of 'Enlightenment' Ben had very explicitly stated that 'Enlightenment' was just a TRICK, nothing more, nothing less. Here is what Ben said:-

[quote]
On 2008-04-14 07:04, Ben Harris wrote:
[b][i]No matter how clever the gimmick may or may not be, Enlightenment is still a trick. Nothing more, nothing less.[/i][/b] And, like any trick, it's one that must be presented with conviction. It must be presented well. The gimmick is JUST A TOOL.
[/quote]

So where is the doubt?!

:xmas:
Message: Posted by: Sir Pharaul (May 12, 2008 07:47AM)
The best part of the trick for me was the packaging. The prop was very well made and I can see why it cost so much. It was just not very practical for me and I don't see myself ever using it. Some people may like, I did not.
Message: Posted by: Black Tiger (May 12, 2008 08:04AM)
[quote]
On 2008-05-12 08:34, Ustaad wrote:

A good 15 days before the release of 'Enlightenment' Ben had very explicitly stated that 'Enlightenment' was just a TRICK, nothing more, nothing less...[/quote]

It beggars belief that anyone on these forums could, for even a split second, think Enlightenment was, somehow, REAL magic. I just can't believe some people need to be explicitly [i]told[/i] that it's not real magic and just a trick. The mind boggles, it really does. Call me a cynic, but I am rapidly losing faith in the intelligence of your average human being. I am no genius, but... [i]real magic[/i]?

Ok, this is how it is: there is no such thing as real magic. Please delete this post if that was exposure....
Message: Posted by: Xcath1 (May 12, 2008 01:04PM)
I don't think one has to believe in magic to have hoped that somehow a magnetic field might have been harnessed in a way that someone had not previously thought likely or possible. I believe that a reference had been made in this discussion to the magnetic floating top which I would have thought impossible until I had seen it. Also while I continue to agree that Mr. Harris has been extraordinarily forthcoming, early promise was supplanted by latter facts. A quote from early in this discussion

"The spectator's can grab the card at ANY TIME. That is the real strength of this. You have a genuine levitation in that the card floats up and down, all under your control, and the spectators can GRAB the card at ANYTIME. There is nothing attached and nothing below, just the way it SHOULD be."

Does in anyone who owns this product believe the above statement to be entirely true in fact or spirit?

Let me end by saying I bought the product, was fairly certain what I was getting and do not feel cheated. I do however find this an interesting discussion about expectations and reality.
Message: Posted by: ferrissteve (May 12, 2008 03:46PM)
"The spectator's can grab the card at ANY TIME. That is the real strength of this. You have a genuine levitation in that the card floats up and down, all under your control, and the spectators can GRAB the card at ANYTIME. There is nothing attached and nothing below, just the way it SHOULD be."

that's hard to say. on the demo he said he used magnets of varying strengths hence showing a few cards underneath the levitated card. I think ben Harris means well and the demo was merely what CAN be done with Enlightenment, not necessarily right away but with some work and creativity. How many online demos of products are viewed with the hopes that we can perform just as good as the person demoing the product? often times the demoer is the creater of the effect and naturally will be the most fluent with the effect. so in answering your question regarding if the statement is true in fact or spirit, I would have to say in spirit, because given how you receive enlightenment I don't see how a spectator could grab the card in mid air without giving away the secret. hmmmm?????? this thread is only going to get more interesting as the days go by.
Message: Posted by: Joshua Barrett (May 12, 2008 04:16PM)
Iv been thinking about buy this, but I'm not so sure now. I don't under stand "There is nothing attached and nothing below, just the way it SHOULD be"

yet you can not look under the card. iv someone could explain via pm maybe. not asking to expose by all means but just a vague reasoning or somthing lol
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (May 12, 2008 04:23PM)
Hi Xcath1

You will see all of these things clearly demonstrated, in both "street" settings and more realistic semi-formal settings, with live audiences, on the forthecoming DVD. The full explanations will then be taught. Although you already have all the information.

I was secretly hoping to leave it at the written word and everyone's imaginations to fill in the blanks! Leave it to everyone to "work it" -- but, it's a video world we live in! So it looks like a DVD is warranted. This is something that doesn't particularly excite me--I hate the whole DVD-making process. But you gotta do what ya gotta do...

More info about this will go up at our blog TODAY along with some additional "Drive Instructions" that we are now adding to all units when shipping. If you own Enlightenmnet or are thinking about it, these "additional instructions" should be read in conjunction with what is supplied with the boxed set. These instructions are part of our ongoing commitment to Enlightenment and are a direct result of user feedback.

Cheers

Ben
Message: Posted by: Xcath1 (May 12, 2008 06:23PM)
Mr. Harris I appreciate your personal reply. I will continue to experiment with the device and look forward to any further presentation suggestions, advice etc. By the way I have several of your books and agree with others that you are a creative and inventive talent and also agree that you responded to direct questions on your site in as clear and honest a manner as possible without complete exposure.
Message: Posted by: Review King (May 12, 2008 07:08PM)
I got mine today. It's Incredible. Better than I thought it would be.
Ben released a plehtora of information, so I sort of guessed what it would be. I was right and wrong. I got the card lifting off the deck, but I didn't know the gimmick would be a precsion one ( that term gets thrown about quite a bit in magic ).

This will take thought in performing. You can't open the box and go out and perform it. I think that's a stregnth as I don't want any levitating magic to be like D'lites and TT's. Those that get it and it's not for them ( I love the way some folks do the Zombie ball, but it isn't for me ), I'm sure will still appreciate the thought that went into it.

I worte a bit more here:
http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=257759&forum=109&start=90#23

Ben has added some additional instruction on his blog. (Lay folk that stumble on the blog wouldn't know what these meant ).

It's important additional info to those that have Enlightenment: http://www.wowbound.com/blog.html
Message: Posted by: Mercury52 (May 12, 2008 11:42PM)
Got mine in the mail today, I was a pre-order directly from Ben.

While it's not what I was expected based on the early pages of this thread (though with the more recent discussions once people started receiving it, I figured out what to expect)

As mentioned, this is beautifully packaged, and you can tell a lot of time and effort went into it.

I went for Ben's whole bundle with the Paradigm Shifter and am looking forward to getting my full custom deck in the near-ish future. It was a nice touch of Ben's to include Bikin' as an extra bonus due to the delivery of the custom decks falling behind schedule.

Do expect to sit down for a good chunk of time to read all of the included literature before playing with the props themselves. The quick-start guide and full booklet are well written and provide clear instruction on how to work with the gimmick, and how to construct everything for the floating card.

I must say, it didn't take me long to "learn how to drive" at all. I'm already having pretty good control over the liftoff and touchdown, and my paradigm shifter is working well from inches away. I definitely don't feel that I have to get overly-close to make everything work. Hearing other people say that they have to get within millimeters of the deck makes me think that they're either not using it right, or they have a defective unit.

The effect is supplied with instructions for a "quick" deck setup, and a permanent deck setup. Each will take some time, and the permanent will probably need a solid afternoon of devotion. I'll probably make up the quicky version to start playing with it. I must say I'm glad that I bought the full version from Ben. Knowing that I won't have to go through that whole construction process myself is relieving. Not that it seems particularly difficult; I'm just glad I won't have to put the time into the construction. I can use that time to practice instead!

I will say that the "spectator grabs the card at anytime" line does seem misleading. It really does imply (to me) that the card can be at the peak of the levitation, can be grabbed out of the air by the spec, and see that nothing is there, which is not the case. Also, as has been established, you can't look under the card while it's floating.

However, I am happy with the purchase, and I look forward to working with the effect. The audience CAN examine and sign the card before and after the float. THEY put the card on top of the deck, it rises and falls, and then THEY take the card off the deck. Being able to take the card mid-flight would be icing on the cake, for sure. But, does the fact that they can't do that make me wanna throw this in the trash? Nope.

I think there's a lot of potential here, and my limited experimentation with it tonight has yielded enough of a positive result that I'm excited to keep experimenting.

I do think the idea of a forum for purchasers to discuss issues and ideas is a good one.

The item is well-made, well-thought-out, and brilliantly packaged. If you're not the kind of person who likes arts and crafts projects, you might want to steer clear, or wait until later this year when the custom full decks become available on a wide basis.

I think there's a pretty good amount of potential here, and I look forward to hearing more about the upcoming DVD and other associated projects that will go along with Enlightenment.

Overall, I'm on the happy side. I do feel like a few of the advertisement comments were slightly misleading. However, my feelings are more strongly attached to the fact that this is a well-made and clever device that I believe will work in the real world, given proper time and devotion to practice and presentation. It was easy to get caught up in the excitement and hope that Ben created some kind of controllable Levitron. But I think we should focus more on what Enlightenment IS and what it CAN do, rather than what it ISN'T and what it CAN'T do.
Message: Posted by: Review King (May 13, 2008 12:51AM)
Kevin, once again, nice write up on an effect. And your closing statement is eloquently oput!

I also was "driving" right away ( on accident ). The instructions are quite clear on set up, angles, etc. in order to get up to speed.

I did a quick deck setup ( I'm not a craft person and it took awhile ), so I'm looking forward to the custom decks being released ).

The card goes up and comes down. It's down right spooky and I know how it works.

Here's some thoughts:

Do not repeat this for the same audience. Work out a routine that fits your character, but either close with it, move on to another table/group or....have the car running and split.

I think this effect should have some theater to this presentation ( even table hopping ).

and...this isn't about the deck. So, I wouldn't have them shuffle it. And..it isn't about the card. So, why have them place it down? As far as "they can pick the card up at anytime" my experience with these types of effects is that they won't even think to pick it up and might even, depending on how you choose your audience, be a bit afraid to touch the card.

I have some performace ideas that I'll share with Ben to see what he thinks. But I feel simple and subtle is the way to go with this.

I do appologize if I speak from a performing in public stand point. I know there are some great hobbyists or folks that perform for friends and I'm not meaning to leave you out. My brain just thinks from a certain way for performing in front of strangers ( which sometimes contain ball busters, etc. ).

I try to construct routines that remove ways that things can go wrong, while still making the effect as strong as it can be. If somehting ( a deck ) has to leave my hands, where I lose some control, I then think of ways to limit what might ruin things.
Message: Posted by: gdw (May 13, 2008 01:03AM)
I am curious, we all know that this involved magnetic "levitation," but is it a true "levitation", that is, nothing but magnetic repulsion is keeping the object a float, or is it still attached to the deck for stabilization and such?

That is, in theory, could something be waved between the card and the deck, or could you actually look straight through, between the two, while the card was in the air, floating?
Message: Posted by: Review King (May 13, 2008 02:23AM)
Everyone, remember I have not performed this for anyone yet. So...my thoughts are from the couch, not the field. Ben has allot of expereince wiht this and addresses quite a bit in the enclosed book ( Ben feels the strength in the levitation is them placing and removing the card ).

And yes, I'm having allot fo fun working on this.
Message: Posted by: The Mac (May 13, 2008 02:41AM)
[quote]
On 2008-05-13 02:03, gdw wrote:
I am curious, we all know that this involved magnetic "levitation," but is it a true "levitation", that is, nothing but magnetic repulsion is keeping the object a float, or is it still attached to the deck for stabilization and such?

That is, in theory, could something be waved between the card and the deck, or could you actually look straight through, between the two, while the card was in the air, floating?
[/quote]


no its not. that was what I I thought it was how ever its not that. I thought ben had found a way to accomplish it. You can't look under the card while it floats.
something is attached.
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (May 13, 2008 02:47AM)
Hi GDW

This is a new way of using magnets--(a mechanical configuration)rather than a break through in physics.

Cheers

Ben
Message: Posted by: Douglas Lippert (May 13, 2008 09:21AM)
That made me chuckle. What was everyone expecting here? A Miracle?
Message: Posted by: The Mac (May 13, 2008 10:01AM)
No, we were expecting a break through, 20yrs in the making,that provided a way to harness magnetic levitation where you could look under the card and have it pulled out of the air.That was the premise used to initially hype the product.Spin it anyway you like but the initial hype by the creator was false.
Message: Posted by: Tim Jahn (May 13, 2008 10:05AM)
[quote]
On 2008-05-13 11:01, The Mac wrote:
No, we were expecting a break through, 20yrs in the making,that provided a way to harness magnetic levitation where you could look under the card and have it pulled out of the air.That was the premise used to initially hype the product.Spin it anyway you like but the initial hype by the creator was false.
[/quote]

Yes.. Magnetic cardboard!! It will be all the rage!!!
Look at it this way, You still have an opportunity to invent it yourself.
You will be in the Smithsonian right next to the guy who invented transparent aluminum.
Better get to work!!

Live long and prosper.
Message: Posted by: The Mac (May 13, 2008 10:15AM)
Well the card could be shimmed and forced. The point is why make all those statements the later on change it after the perception has sunk in.
Message: Posted by: Tim Jahn (May 13, 2008 11:29AM)
[quote]
On 2008-05-13 11:15, The Mac wrote:
Well the card could be shimmed and forced. The point is why make all those statements the later on change it after the perception has sunk in.
[/quote]

Yeah, But I'm pretty sure it would have to be shimmed with a magnet. You know, For the opposing force. And how do you activate magnetic force? Electro-magnet in the deck to start the levitation? And on, And on. Sorry, Just way to many questions. And thanks to these questions that I asked myself when this thread popped up almost a year ago, I was easily able to conclude that magnetic levitation was not being used. I openly admit that I didn't know how the hell it was being done. But I did know that something was mechanically lifting the card and it was not suspended with opposing magnetic force. The levitron itself cannot support levitation without motion. And did you see how big it is? Try to stuff that into a deck.

This is why when I see posts like yours about "Suspended in midair by magnetic force" I just wonder how anyone could really think that. If that's what Ben would have come up with, The magic market would have been the last thing on his mind I guarantee you.

Tim
Message: Posted by: Christopher Williams (May 13, 2008 11:40AM)
Bahaha!!! Mine came today, and I think it is genius!!! I was told things by a couple people that made me think 'Oh no, too late I took the plunge'...but I love it! I can't wait to get this made up and tried out. Did I hear right somewhere that the Organic decks are going to be for sale at one point?

Congrats Ben!!! Great product and beautiful packaging!
Message: Posted by: Joshua Quinn (May 13, 2008 12:38PM)
[quote]
On 2008-05-13 11:01, The Mac wrote:
No, we were expecting a break through, 20yrs in the making,that provided a way to harness magnetic levitation where you could look under the card and have it pulled out of the air.That was the premise used to initially hype the product.
[/quote]

No, that was an assumption made by some people who took the truthful, but limited, information that Ben supplied, and filled in the gaps with what they wanted to believe.
Message: Posted by: Tim Jahn (May 13, 2008 01:32PM)
I got mine today as well!!! I'll go through it in a little bit and report my thoughts.

Tim
Message: Posted by: Saturn UK (May 13, 2008 04:34PM)
I have not got this but reading the information pack and this thread have told me what it is. If anyone buys it now and is disappointed they have not read up on the product. Would you spend this much money on something without looking it up?

The gimmick I recall has the word platform written on it, does that not give a big clue how it works?

Assuming I am right I still can't figure out how Ben has managed to create the gimick to lift the card using a drive magnet (not that I know what the term is).

This must be very clever and I think its worth buying just to get to grips with the principle.

As I said I don't have this but if you see the spec' going for the card can't you make it drop so they find nothing visible underneath by the time they get the card off the deck or does it go down really slow?
Message: Posted by: Bill Lhotta (May 13, 2008 09:13PM)
Yes, if you see the spec going for the card you can immediately retract the gimmick and when they grab it nothing will be found.

Also, as has been stated before it is possible to have the spectator grab the card while it is floating but it will require audience management and you will have to have your timing down to prevent detection of the gimmick.

Cheers!

** Bill **

[quote]
On 2008-05-13 17:34, themagiczone wrote:
I have not got this but reading the information pack and this thread have told me what it is. If anyone buys it now and is disappointed they have not read up on the product. Would you spend this much money on something without looking it up?

The gimmick I recall has the word platform written on it, does that not give a big clue how it works?

Assuming I am right I still can't figure out how Ben has managed to create the gimick to lift the card using a drive magnet (not that I know what the term is).

This must be very clever and I think its worth buying just to get to grips with the principle.

As I said I don't have this but if you see the spec' going for the card can't you make it drop so they find nothing visible underneath by the time they get the card off the deck or does it go down really slow?
[/quote]
Message: Posted by: Mercury52 (May 13, 2008 10:42PM)
[quote]
On 2008-05-13 01:51, Christopher Kavanagh wrote:
Kevin, once again, nice write up on an effect. And your closing statement is eloquently oput![/quote]

Thanks Chris. I guess those years in school as a writing major paid off!

For some of the other questions that have been asked in the thread:

NO, the spectator cannot look under the card during the levitation.

As for whether or not an object could be passed under the card while floating, yes, but only to a certain degree. It is possible to pass something else, such as another playing card, underneath certain areas of the floating card. Though I've not worked with the effect much yet, I don't think that passing anything underneath the card would be very beneficial in the context of the routine.

You're not making the card stay in the air for several minutes like you would float a lady on stage. I think the best way to present this will be a very brief levitation. Slowly up, in the air for a few seconds, and then slowly down. And, since they can check out the card before and after the float without any interference from you, I don't really see the need to pass anything under the card during the actual float.

And yes, if you see them starting to reach for the card, you can bring it down quite quickly and be safe when they grab it.
Message: Posted by: gdw (May 14, 2008 12:50PM)
Ok, this WAS touted as a breakthrough, it was also claimed to be a "true levitation" using magnets.


Who here honestly did NOT expect something like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgYUOUfPm8c&NR=1
Message: Posted by: TheAmazingSteveo (May 14, 2008 02:09PM)
Gdw,

That DOES look amazing -- thank you for the link. Here is a link where many people discuss this and also give the name of the company .. the patent number .. and other competing products:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3843.msg86802

Also, the companies site of the video is:
http://www.levitationarts.com/
Message: Posted by: TheAmazingSteveo (May 14, 2008 02:42PM)
Doing some research ... I found the only distributor of this technology is very close by: http://www.arborsci.com/detail.aspx?ID=1165

Looks like the orig. patent was obtained in the US and a French company has a patent pending in the US, France and China (which is the company now selling this unit down the street here in Michigan).
Message: Posted by: Gilgamesh_The_Librarian (May 14, 2008 02:46PM)
[quote]
On 2008-05-14 13:50, gdw wrote:
Ok, this WAS touted as a breakthrough, it was also claimed to be a "true levitation" using magnets.


Who here honestly did NOT expect something like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgYUOUfPm8c&NR=1
[/quote]

Erm, well quite a lot of us didn't actually. My expectations being derived from Ben Harris product pack, I was pretty clear what it was going to be and not to be.
Message: Posted by: tdowell (May 14, 2008 03:26PM)
I'm glad Gilmesh and others got what they expected. But, I and a number of people did expect this to be the stable magnetic levitation already known to exist in physics.

And I must say that it is my fault, and everyone else who expected more, for buying into all the hype generated by both Café members and Ben Harris. This has been a clear lesson learned for me and I will no longer buy a product based upon Café speculation or the promise that a product is some kind of new breakthrough principal. I will simply wait until the product is released and reviewed before making my decision on these things.

If you think you were fooled, then its your fault for buying into the hype that is so often generated by this and other forums.

But, in my opinion, Ben is not without responsibility for some of this hype and the mis-perception generated on this thread.

Here is a direct quote from Ben almost a year ago (July 2007):

"[T]he lady DOES LOOK UNDER the card right towards the end of the video."

"The spectator's can grab the card at ANY TIME. That is the real strength of this. You have a genuine levitation in that the card floats up and down, all under your control, and the spectators can GRAB the card at ANYTIME. There is nothing attatched and nothing below, just the way it SHOULD be."

Statements like that are simply hype. It is not unreasonable for any of us to have believed that "there is nothing below, just the way it SHOULD be" based on that representation. Yes, we all know that the advertisement will often portray what the spectator sees and thinks, but why would you say this is a "genuine levitation" as though it was something different that all the levitations that currently exist (zombie, ITR, etc.) This was touted as a different principal from anything else we have seen.

If you read the thread from beginning to end, several persons were speculating a true levitation and were discussing it in that fashion. No one broke in and dispelled those thoughts. But that's just what happens before something new is released to the public.

Let me end by saying that I don't believe Ben intended to mislead anyone or cause anyone to buy the product thinking it was a true levitation. I also want to say that the effect is interesting and is not in and of itself bad in any way. Constructed and performed properly this will fool most people.

It was my fault for buying this product before it was released and under actual review. I won't be making that mistake again.
Message: Posted by: TheAmazingSteveo (May 14, 2008 04:35PM)
I just bought the Levitron AG (WOW !!! - it really is TRUE levitation) .. nothing is moving in the globe or the base .. it is truely electromagnetic .. and yes .. they TRUELY did find the sweet spot in magnetics. The thingy is floating next to me while I am typing this message .. it is VERY VERY COOL! I have many ideas how to use this in a magic presentation ...

It levitates about 3/4" from the base and you can run a magazine or plastic hoop between the base and the globe ... or a spectator can also .. it takes a small amount of DC current .. it comes with an ac adapter but I will be converting this over to a portable system.

http://www.arborsci.com/detail.aspx?ID=1165
Message: Posted by: Tim Jahn (May 14, 2008 04:41PM)
It is a new principal. How many other levitations like this exist IN MAGIC.
If this principal does exist, Why didn't you already have something like this or at least have seen it to know that you didn't like it? From the spectators point of view. There IS nothing above and nothing below. Apparently this is not a stretch as its what you thought based on what you saw in the demo. Which is what the spectator sees.

I'm not directing this toward you Tdowell, and if you don't like enlightenment or think you will use it that's up to you to decide and I respect that. I have heard this from quite a few people who said they didn't like this. "The statements were untrue", "Ben lied", "I thought it was REAL magic" and so on.

And heres another thing. If magnetic levitation has been achieved on the scale of being able to adapt it to playing cards, Without motion, Why haven't any of you marketed it? Why hasn't anyone marketed it? Heres a post I made earlier and it seem to fit here as well.
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Yeah, But I'm pretty sure the card would have to be shimmed with a magnet. You know, For the opposing force. And how do you activate magnetic force? Electro-magnet in the deck to start the levitation? And on, And on. Sorry, Just way to many questions. And thanks to these questions that I asked myself when this thread popped up almost a year ago, I was easily able to conclude that magnetic levitation was not being used. I openly admit that I didn't know how the hell it was being done. But I did know that something was mechanically lifting the card and it was not suspended with opposing magnetic force. The levitron itself cannot support levitation without motion. And did you see how big it is? Try to stuff that into a deck.

This is why when I see posts like yours about "Suspended in midair by magnetic force" I just wonder how anyone could really think that. If that's what Ben would have come up with, The magic market would have been the last thing on his mind I guarantee you.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Ben was clear on what this was and what it was not. "The spectator can't look under the card while its floating", "Magnetic lift PLATFORM" (with platform being the key word), And so on.

Tim
Message: Posted by: tdowell (May 14, 2008 05:40PM)
[quote]
On 2008-05-14 17:41, Tim Jahn wrote:
Ben was clear on what this was and what it was not..."Magnetic lift PLATFORM" (with platform being the key word), And so on.
[/quote]

The fact that we don't have a pure magnetic card levitation in magic doesn't mean it isn't possible (and may already be in the works).

"Platform" can mean different things in different contexts. The suspended card could theoretically contain a "platform" upon which lift is magnetically repelled. "Platform" can also constitute a design upon which the same magnetic lift is based. "Platform" is not so restrictive a term as to only mean kinetic suspension.

Again, I think the hype reasonably led some of us to believe this was pure magnetic suspension. We can argue about whether or not it was reasonable to think such, but that doesn't change the fact that many were left disappointed in the method. To that end I will wait until a product becomes available before I buy it.
Message: Posted by: thehawk (May 14, 2008 05:56PM)
I believe I will wait instead of preordering as I preordered and still have not received it. I could have waited and got it cheaper at dealers nevermind the FS here at the Café. I was told it would be here in 4-8 days from the release date and this is the fourteenth day and mail has come and gone for the day. Never will I ever preorder again.
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (May 14, 2008 06:15PM)
Hi Hawk,

Man, I'm really sorry about the delay in the post. Rest assured, I'll always send you another if it fails to arrive. It will get there.

Everyone else, I am familiar with the electro magnetic levitation devices that you are discussing. I've spent years studying them. They are amazing. But they are NOT MAGICAL EFFECTS.

This is all discussed in the book that accompanies my effect. It was my intent to take the concept of magnetic levitation and make a practical carry anywhere card levitation. Practical, carry anywhere. These other things are amazing, but they are NOT practical, carry anywhere, or even levitation, they are examples of suspension.

I wanted something I did not have to plug into the mains!

Cheers and thanks for all your feedback.
Blog just updated http://www.wowbound.com

Ben
Message: Posted by: Tim Jahn (May 14, 2008 08:57PM)
[quote]
On 2008-05-14 18:40, tdowell wrote:
[quote]
On 2008-05-14 17:41, Tim Jahn wrote:
Ben was clear on what this was and what it was not..."Magnetic lift PLATFORM" (with platform being the key word), And so on.
[/quote]

The fact that we don't have a pure magnetic card levitation in magic doesn't mean it isn't possible (and may already be in the works).

"Platform" can mean different things in different contexts. The suspended card could theoretically contain a "platform" upon which lift is magnetically repelled. "Platform" can also constitute a design upon which the same magnetic lift is based. "Platform" is not so restrictive a term as to only mean kinetic suspension.

Again, I think the hype reasonably led some of us to believe this was pure magnetic suspension. We can argue about whether or not it was reasonable to think such, but that doesn't change the fact that many were left disappointed in the method. To that end I will wait until a product becomes available before I buy it.
[/quote]

Oh come on guys. Don't you think that if this had been a REAL magnetic Levitation / suspension, That Ben would have absolutely said so. There would have been no need for beating around the bush or speculation. He would have said that "The card is suspended by pure magnetic force". Period. This would have been a major selling point and it would have definitely been said. Heck even pushed.

Sorry, But your imaginations sold you on what you wanted to believe this is. Nothing more.

Platform can also mean something that is used to raise an object Tdowell. Why is that not in your definition above? Again, You want to believe what you want to believe.

If you guys don't like this (I think there are about 10 of you so far) Why not see what Ben has to say about returning it. I mean it can't hurt to ask. And then you could use the money for R&D and finally solve this pesky magnetic repulsion question and market it yourselves.

Tim
Message: Posted by: gdw (May 14, 2008 09:30PM)
"the lady DOES LOOK UNDER the card right towards the end of the video.

The spectator's can grab the card at ANY TIME. That is the real strength of this. You have a genuine levitation in that the card floats up and down, all under your control, and the spectators can GRAB the card at ANYTIME. There is nothing attatched and nothing below, just the way it SHOULD be."

"genuine levitation"
Message: Posted by: Review King (May 14, 2008 09:46PM)
Has anyone that doesn't like Enlightenment performed it for anyone?
Message: Posted by: gdw (May 14, 2008 09:51PM)
I have no doubt what so ever that it will play great. It has absolutely NOTHING to do with whether or not it is GOOD, but whether or not it is what we were lead to believe it was.
Message: Posted by: Review King (May 14, 2008 10:11PM)
[quote]
On 2008-05-14 22:51, gdw wrote:
I have no doubt what so ever that it will play great. It has absolutely NOTHING to do with whether or not it is GOOD, but whether or not it is what we were lead to believe it was.
[/quote]

Oh, ok. Since the annoucement in July 2007, I guess I missed the looking under the card, can remove the card while it's levitating. I looked at the video clip and was amazed. I read the specs and guessed, sort of, what it would be ( two seperate gimmicks, one being a mag*^& on your body, was as close as I got to being right ) so I was not disappointed when it arrived. And within minutes I had it working ( by accident ).

I'm just curious. If someone that feels this wasn't as advertised and is selling it, whatever. But first we went and performed it and the pepople you did it for said "no way", "You're the devil", "Oh my GOD, that's scarey" ( I think anyone that has used IT has heard these things ).

Would you tell me "the reactions were incredible, but this is not what was advertised, so I'm dumping it"?

I have to ask because when I move my finger towards the deck, the card goes up and then goes down and I think it's so cool.
Message: Posted by: gdw (May 14, 2008 10:46PM)
[quote]
On 2008-05-14 23:11, Christopher Kavanagh wrote:
[quote]
On 2008-05-14 22:51, gdw wrote:
I have no doubt what so ever that it will play great. It has absolutely NOTHING to do with whether or not it is GOOD, but whether or not it is what we were lead to believe it was.
[/quote]

Oh, ok. Since the annoucement in July 2007, I guess I missed the looking under the card, can remove the card while it's levitating. I looked at the video clip and was amazed. I read the specs and guessed, sort of, what it would be ( two seperate gimmicks, one being a mag*^& on your body, was as close as I got to being right ) so I was not disappointed when it arrived. And within minutes I had it working ( by accident ).

I'm just curious. If someone that feels this wasn't as advertised and is selling it, whatever. But first we went and performed it and the pepople you did it for said "no way", "You're the devil", "Oh my GOD, that's scarey" ( I think anyone that has used IT has heard these things ).

Would you tell me "the reactions were incredible, but this is not what was advertised, so I'm dumping it"?

I have to ask because when I move my finger towards the deck, the card goes up and then goes down and I think it's so cool.
[/quote]

If I a getting the same reactions with juts IT already, then yes.
Message: Posted by: Review King (May 14, 2008 11:08PM)
I'm working on a routine. Here's what I have so far:

It has nothing to do with the card or the deck. It has to do with energy. That energy comes from me and from them. If I have more than person ( which is the case when I perform ) I'm going to have the card placed on top of the deck and then have myself and another person touch finger tips ( yep, their hand will look like mine, except...I'll have the paradigm shifter in mine ).

We'll then slowly, with fingertips touching, come near the card and it will....lift up and then down ( I'm counting on a reaction when it goes up and at that moment my finger will come away, thus lowering the card ).

I think this puts zero heat on the card or the deck and creates a magical moment.

Anyway, that's what I'm working on.
Message: Posted by: Ustaad (May 15, 2008 12:24AM)
[quote]
On 2008-05-15 00:08, Christopher Kavanagh wrote:
I'm working on a routine. Here's what I have so far:

It has nothing to do with the card or the deck. It has to do with energy. That energy comes from me and from them. If I have more than person ( which is the case when I perform ) I'm going to have the card placed on top of the deck and then have myself and another person touch finger tips ( yep, their hand will look like mine, except...I'll have the paradigm shifter in mine ).

We'll then slowly, with fingertips touching, come near the card and it will....lift up and then down ( I'm counting on a reaction when it goes up and at that moment my finger will come away, thus lowering the card ).

I think this puts zero heat on the card or the deck and creates a magical moment.

Anyway, that's what I'm working on.
[/quote]

Excellent thinking Chris!

Very nice way of getting the spectator involved.

The spectator will never think of grabbing the card as his finger is now magically stuck to yours. :) ;)

Why didn't I think of that! :cry:

:xmas:
Message: Posted by: Review King (May 15, 2008 12:33AM)
Ustaad, thank you for the kind words. I'm just thinking off the top of my head and trying to create a magical experience. I think many are coming up with first rate performance ideas!
Message: Posted by: Shodan (May 15, 2008 03:38AM)
Having finally had a chance to play with the thing properly, I am very impressed, and my mind is simply buzzing with the possibilities for the effect. I was not expecting real magic, nor was I expecting an advanced bit of magneto-physics, so I was not disappointed.

I like how people keep on challenging the claim that this can be done in the way that it was demonstrated on video. You've got to pick your mark and do your job for sure, but that doesn't mean it can't be done.

I'm just chiming in again to say how very impressed I am with Ben Harris on this one. I have plagued him with emails trying to determine which drive magnet is right for me, talking about ideas for using the thing etc. and not only has he replied to them all with a genuine helpful attitude, but his level of customer service has proved to be beyond reproach.

As a creator myself - a dance choreographer - I know what it is like to work hard at something, put hours of blood sweat and tears into it and then show it to others. I know how bad it feels when it isn't recieved well...that means either I did a bad job or they aren't able to appreciate what I've done. I think in the case of enlightenment, Ben has done a great job.

Cheers,
David.
Message: Posted by: TheAmazingSteveo (May 15, 2008 03:45AM)
Ok ... I finally had some time and made the thingy for the gimmick .. WOW !!!!!!!!!

This thing really is COOOOOOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! like real magic.

I'm amazing and astonishing myself here practicing!

VERY VERY NICE JOB BEN!
Message: Posted by: Tim Jahn (May 15, 2008 07:42AM)
[quote]
On 2008-05-14 22:30, gdw wrote:
"the lady DOES LOOK UNDER the card right towards the end of the video.

The spectator's can grab the card at ANY TIME. That is the real strength of this. You have a genuine levitation in that the card floats up and down, all under your control, and the spectators can GRAB the card at ANYTIME. There is nothing attatched and nothing below, just the way it SHOULD be."

"genuine levitation"
[/quote]

Is a float with I.T. not a "Genuine levitation". To the spectator it is. So why the play on words here? The card floats up and floats down. It IS under your control. The spectator CAN grab the card at anytime if you know what your doing. There is NOTHING attached to the card above or below. Whats the problem? All of this has nothing to do with the fact that at NO TIME did BEN say the words, "Magnetic levitation in which the card is suspended by pure magnetic repulsion". I never saw it. If you did could you please quote THAT here instead of the same old thing over and over trying to prove a point which doesn't exist.

The ONLY thing that Ben did that was not right, Was to give out too much information about the thing. That's it. If it would have been me, All I would have said was "The card floats up and down under your control and the spectator can remove the card themselves. I.T. is not used." And that's it. As it was, He pretty much opened up the effect to everyone. You guys jumped to your own conclusions. I find it very curious that there were not many who arrived at the same conclusions that some did. For example, I didn't know what it was, But I sure knew what it wasn't.

This is beating a dead horse. You guys feel you were cheated because you formed an image of something in your minds that had nothing to do with what was being said. You heard what you wanted to. I mean...Come on, Ben himself, On this very thread, Said "NO the spectator can not look under the card during the levitation". But some didn't listen and kept on with what they WANTED to believe. What did you think was under the card that the spectator shouldn't see? The bright spark of magnetic repulsion?

If you don't like the thing then so be it. Its your opinion and you are certainly entitled to it. But to say that you don't like it because you were lied to is quite another thing.

No one was lied to.

Tim
Message: Posted by: Kjellstrom (May 15, 2008 10:00AM)
TIP:
Micro Magnet Bundle (25 mags)

http://www.chazpro.com/servlet/Detail?no=47
Message: Posted by: tdowell (May 15, 2008 10:41AM)
[quote]
On 2008-05-15 08:42, Tim Jahn wrote:
[quote]
On 2008-05-14 22:30, gdw wrote:
"the lady DOES LOOK UNDER the card right towards the end of the video.

The spectator's can grab the card at ANY TIME. That is the real strength of this. You have a genuine levitation in that the card floats up and down, all under your control, and the spectators can GRAB the card at ANYTIME. There is nothing attatched and nothing below, just the way it SHOULD be."

"genuine levitation"
[/quote]

Is a float with I.T. not a "Genuine levitation". To the spectator it is. So why the play on words here? The card floats up and floats down. It IS under your control. The spectator CAN grab the card at anytime if you know what your doing. There is NOTHING attached to the card above or below. Whats the problem? All of this has nothing to do with the fact that at NO TIME did BEN say the words, "Magnetic levitation in which the card is suspended by pure magnetic repulsion". I never saw it. If you did could you please quote THAT here instead of the same old thing over and over trying to prove a point which doesn't exist.

The ONLY thing that Ben did that was not right, Was to give out too much information about the thing. That's it. If it would have been me, All I would have said was "The card floats up and down under your control and the spectator can remove the card themselves. I.T. is not used." And that's it. As it was, He pretty much opened up the effect to everyone. You guys jumped to your own conclusions. I find it very curious that there were not many who arrived at the same conclusions that some did. For example, I didn't know what it was, But I sure knew what it wasn't.

This is beating a dead horse. You guys feel you were cheated because you formed an image of something in your minds that had nothing to do with what was being said. You heard what you wanted to. I mean...Come on, Ben himself, On this very thread, Said "NO the spectator can not look under the card during the levitation". But some didn't listen and kept on with what they WANTED to believe. What did you think was under the card that the spectator shouldn't see? The bright spark of magnetic repulsion?

If you don't like the thing then so be it. Its your opinion and you are certainly entitled to it. But to say that you don't like it because you were lied to is quite another thing.

No one was lied to.

Tim
[/quote]


Beating a dead horse
Message: Posted by: Tim Jahn (May 15, 2008 10:43AM)
Very Good!! Out of all of that, You heard one thing. Thanks for proving my point.
Message: Posted by: tdowell (May 15, 2008 11:51AM)
[quote]
On 2008-05-15 11:43, Tim Jahn wrote:
Very Good!! Out of all of that, You heard one thing. Thanks for proving my point.
[/quote]

Yes Tim, I heard and proved you will continue to attack anyone who attempts to criticize this effect, the hype it generated, and its less than revolutionary method.

Oh, and as for proving your point, thanks for proving mine.
Message: Posted by: Marc Frese (May 15, 2008 12:15PM)
After all, what I have read now, I am totally confused.

Is now a good trick / Gimmick or not?

Please can people the pros and cons list.

Worth a purchase?

Thank you for your help.

And greetings from Germany.
Message: Posted by: Marc Frese (May 15, 2008 12:17PM)
Can someone the pros and cons list! (SORRY)
Message: Posted by: Andi Peters (May 15, 2008 12:43PM)
Pros

A card levitates

Cons

It doesn't really
Message: Posted by: Shodan (May 15, 2008 01:07PM)
It doesn't REALLY levitate? My goodness! Aren't we supposed to be doing actual wizardry here?
Message: Posted by: gdw (May 15, 2008 01:43PM)
[quote]
On 2008-05-15 14:07, Shodan wrote:
It doesn't REALLY levitate? My goodness! Aren't we supposed to be doing actual wizardry here?
[/quote]

No, but talking of "genuine levitations" and magnets certainly leads one to the conclusion of "magnetic levitation."

However, Ben does not like to call magnetic levitation by that name, he considers it "suspension," even though physics and science seem happy with calling it a levitation.
Message: Posted by: Gilgamesh_The_Librarian (May 15, 2008 02:47PM)
I'm not a magical encyclopaedia so maybe somebody out there can remind me of when a magic trick has utlised a brand new scientific principle.Because I am struggling to see how, if an effect was based on science and not on deception, how the heck it would qualify as magic.
Message: Posted by: king42262 (May 15, 2008 03:07PM)
Sold mine cant say ill miss it !
Yes I agree the packaging is superb ,the gimmick is very clever but once you get past that your left with an effect that personally in performance has to many cons !
Message: Posted by: bosque (May 15, 2008 03:56PM)
Got mine a couple of days ago. Installed the quick version and put it to work. Very smooth. Very eerie. Great reactions; even from those who have seen me do similar things with thread and loops. In fact, I've been doing a "haunted pack" and quickie card levitation in my hands after doing Enlightenment. Just to mix it up. Great combo. Early advertising may indeed have been a tad misleading. All's forgiven as far as I'm concererned because the effect is so strong.
Message: Posted by: Andi Peters (May 15, 2008 03:58PM)
[quote]
On 2008-05-15 16:07, king42262 wrote:
Sold mine cant say ill miss it !
Yes I agree the packaging is superb ,the gimmick is very clever but once you get past that your left with an effect that personally in performance has to many cons !
[/quote]
You'll kick yourself for selling it.

There is a way to really float the card with the spectator looking underneath. However, I'm not saying any more at this point.
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (May 15, 2008 04:01PM)
Hi GDW.

We are not discussing physics or science. We are discussing magic. In magician's language "levitation" and "suspension" are two different slices of the pie. The book supplied with the Enlightenmnet Set covers the details. But, briefly:

A "Suspension" does not feature the object rising from a rest position. The object stays in situ. Think Broomstick Suspension or any Levitron-type item.

A "Levitation" on the other hand, involves the object RISING from a rest position. Think AGA Levitation.

There is a clear difference which is well understood by illusion designers, performers and historians. I don't make these things up as I go.


Cheers

Ben
Message: Posted by: king42262 (May 15, 2008 04:09PM)
[quote]
On 2008-05-15 16:58, Andi Peters wrote:
[quote]
On 2008-05-15 16:07, king42262 wrote:
Sold mine cant say ill miss it !
Yes I agree the packaging is superb ,the gimmick is very clever but once you get past that your left with an effect that personally in performance has to many cons !
[/quote]
You'll kick yourself for selling it.

There is a way to really float the card with the spectator looking underneath. However, I'm not saying any more at this point.
[/quote]

Doubt it ! like I said to many cons.



Yeah I know perform to the lady in the demo video !!!
Message: Posted by: Wesker (May 15, 2008 05:18PM)
Where are these magic classifieds that everyone is selling their Enlightenment on? I wouldn't mind picking up some more units on the cheap.
Message: Posted by: simcoscor (May 15, 2008 05:33PM)
[quote]
On 2007-09-28 03:39, Ben Harris wrote:
My fave non-card version is the "floating book application". Presented in a serious setting, this is way more magical than the floating card. Everyone gets to handle the book, they know it weighs a ton! And, you levitate it without touching it. The spectators then lift the book to make sure that there is nothing beneath it. You DON'T TOUCH the book!

Cheers

Ben
[/quote]

Hi Ben, can you give some more details about this kind of application? Will it take a Rokenbok-MLP ? ;)
Message: Posted by: Bill Lhotta (May 15, 2008 05:59PM)
Straight from the dictionary, here is what I found when I looked up levitation:

"To rise or cause to rise into the air and float in apparent defiance of gravity."

** Bill **

[quote]
On 2008-05-15 14:43, gdw wrote:
[quote]
On 2008-05-15 14:07, Shodan wrote:
It doesn't REALLY levitate? My goodness! Aren't we supposed to be doing actual wizardry here?
[/quote]

No, but talking of "genuine levitations" and magnets certainly leads one to the conclusion of "magnetic levitation."

However, Ben does not like to call magnetic levitation by that name, he considers it "suspension," even though physics and science seem happy with calling it a levitation.
[/quote]
Message: Posted by: tbaer (May 15, 2008 06:41PM)
[quote]
On 2008-05-15 18:18, Wesker wrote:
Where are these magic classifieds that everyone is selling their Enlightenment on? I wouldn't mind picking up some more units on the cheap.
[/quote]

There were some for sale on the "for sale" section, however, you need 50 posts to gain access to it. You are almost there.
Message: Posted by: Tim Jahn (May 15, 2008 08:09PM)
[quote]
On 2008-05-15 12:51, tdowell wrote:
[quote]
On 2008-05-15 11:43, Tim Jahn wrote:
Very Good!! Out of all of that, You heard one thing. Thanks for proving my point.
[/quote]

Yes Tim, I heard and proved you will continue to attack anyone who attempts to criticize this effect, the hype it generated, and its less than revolutionary method.

Oh, and as for proving your point, thanks for proving mine.
[/quote]

And I've heard you sir And that YOU will continue to attack anyone who defends it.
By the way, Criticizing the effect is one thing. I believe I said that if you don't like the thing, Fine, that's your opinion. But you are trying to make it seem that you were misled and that's simply not the case. Well...unless you count misleading yourself with an over active imagination. Your trying to call someone a liar because of your mistakes.

What was your point exactly that I helped prove? Thanks for proving mine again though by hearing only what you wanted to. Again so that you don't misunderstand, If you don't like enlightenment, Man that's great. Not everyone will like everything and I wouldn't expect that to happen with anything.

Calling honest people liars because you refuse to listen in the first place however is a little less than cool.

I hope I have helped prove your next imaginary point with this post. Have fun.

Tim
Message: Posted by: Ustaad (May 15, 2008 08:27PM)
Back on topic please. Thank you. :) ;)

Regards,

:xmas:
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (May 15, 2008 08:48PM)
Hi Simcoscor,

The book version uses a bigger magnet and a bigger Engine. I will be performing this as a bonus live performance on the DVD. I use it with a Star Wars book and give a real demo of the "force." Construction details for this and things like the FLOATING BLOCK will be included in the forethcoming DEVELOPMENT KIT.

Bill, thanks for looking up "levitation" in your dictionary and finding the firm reference to "RISE".

Tim, It's cool man. Thanks for your support.

Ben
Message: Posted by: gdw (May 15, 2008 09:46PM)
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/levitation

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/maglev
Message: Posted by: tdowell (May 16, 2008 12:17AM)
[quote]
On 2008-05-15 18:18, Wesker wrote:
Where are these magic classifieds that everyone is selling their Enlightenment on? I wouldn't mind picking up some more units on the cheap.
[/quote]

Mine sold for $53.00 on the Bay and that included the Paradigm Shifter magnet (brand new in box). I guess that's the market value now.
Message: Posted by: Wesker (May 16, 2008 08:57AM)
[quote]
On 2008-05-15 19:41, tbaer wrote:
[quote]
On 2008-05-15 18:18, Wesker wrote:
Where are these magic classifieds that everyone is selling their Enlightenment on? I wouldn't mind picking up some more units on the cheap.
[/quote]

There were some for sale on the "for sale" section, however, you need 50 posts to gain access to it. You are almost there.
[/quote]

I guess I should stop lurking then :X
Message: Posted by: Douglas Lippert (May 16, 2008 09:37AM)
That is why I will never buy a brand new car. I did get a good deal on this from my friend and hopefully I will get some use out of this.
Message: Posted by: TheAmazingSteveo (May 16, 2008 04:36PM)
Here is a video of a glass being levitated and then wine is poured into the glass while it is suspended:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEu5Qkqw7Tg&feature=related

VERY COOL !!!!!!!!!!!!
Message: Posted by: Dr Spektor (May 16, 2008 05:33PM)
I bet the wine also had a richer flavour after - there are special magnetic devices that actually "air out" wine quickly... really!
Message: Posted by: simcoscor (May 16, 2008 09:44PM)
[quote]
On 2008-05-16 20:43, Dr Spektor wrote:
I bet the wine also had a richer flavour after - there are special magnetic devices that actually "air out" wine quickly... really!
[/quote]

If you refer to The Clef du Vin, it is an alloy made up of many different metals, including copper (no magnets). Nothing to do with dropping copper, though.
http://www.clef-du-vin.com/english/presentation.html

BTW, it works!
Message: Posted by: Dr Spektor (May 16, 2008 10:07PM)
No... but thanks for the link! I was talking about this gizmo... my friend the onierophile says it is bunk...

http://www.winecellarexpress.com/

But hey, do ENLIGHTMENT near some wine and enjoy!

But read all about the magnetic wine effects:

http://www.badscience.net/?p=192

However, if you use enough wine - the specs might not only see the card rise but split into 3... and when they look under they won't see anything as they blackout.
Message: Posted by: simcoscor (May 16, 2008 10:29PM)
You found the "sweet spot" !!! :drinkup:

Thanks for the links!!
Message: Posted by: mesmer (May 17, 2008 10:28PM)
I have this Enlightment...Cute....it is now in the drwaing...not because it is Not Good...it is very Good indeed, but I haven't found Motivation/Reason/Meaning that truly Conncet to me of why the cards float up and then Down.....

and plus I have so many things to work on at this moment, I use this Cute Magical Effect to entertain my self

now back to the Thinking Room!
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (May 18, 2008 03:54PM)
Hi Mesmer,

Thanks for your feedback.
I hope you find the "motivational anchor" for this.

Cheers mate

Ben
Message: Posted by: Scott Fridinger (May 20, 2008 06:06AM)
After reading the 30+ pages of posts on this item, and without seeing the item at all (I am deployed), I would say that there are many people who really thought this was going to be some device that you could look at and it would just work. Or they thought it would be real magic. The problem is, if it was they would probably still be dissapointed.

I think this item has a great deal of potential if you look at WHAT IT DOES and not HOW IT DOES IT.

P.S.

I have always enjoyed COSMOSIS.
Message: Posted by: thehawk (May 20, 2008 07:19AM)
The item sounds fantastic. Most did believe it was magnetic repullsion and when they found out how it worked the magic was gone. Still patiently waiting for mine.
Another great effect is WOW and after some found out how it was done they went on sale here at ther Café.
I believe soon after people use it more you will here more great stories on Enlightenment. Thanks Ben for sharing this with the magic community.
Message: Posted by: thehawk (May 20, 2008 09:35AM)
[quote]
On 2008-05-20 08:19, thehawk wrote:
The item sounds fantastic. Most did believe it was magnetic repullsion and when they found out how it worked the magic was gone. Still patiently waiting for mine.
Another great effect is WOW and after some found out how it was done they went on sale here at the Café.
I believe soon after people use it more you will here more great stories on Enlightenment. Thanks Ben for sharing this with the magic community.
[/quote]
Message: Posted by: Joshua Barrett (May 20, 2008 09:46AM)
Its ridiculous the whole "real magic" thing people are using to bash those who feel misled.

believing that Ben found the elusive "magnetic sweet spot" is not the same as thinking they were buying real magic. its thinking someone is not lying or misleading you.
Message: Posted by: jamie9 (May 20, 2008 08:25PM)
I didn't read my instructions and got the paradime shifter to close to the gimmick and they hit each other and now my gimmick doesn't lay flat. Is it broken?
Message: Posted by: Silvio Solaris (May 20, 2008 08:41PM)
To tell you the truth, I also thought it would be a genuine 'magnetic levitation'.

GDW is absolutely right with his statements.
I don't want to bash Enlightenment or Ben but I wished it would've been advertised more 'precisely'. I have to play around with it and see how it plays but if IT does the same thing then what's the point...
Message: Posted by: Al Straker (May 20, 2008 09:28PM)
I would love someone to show me how the f*** IT could do the same thing as enlightenment??<>#$%^@$%&? that's just plain 'ole BS!

Al
Message: Posted by: jamie9 (May 20, 2008 09:47PM)
I just got this today and now my gimmick is completely broken. I broke it within 5 minutes of opening the pakage. My magnet got too close again and bent it open passed 90 degrees and it does work anymore. Im pretty disapointed. Hopefully I can send it back.
Message: Posted by: gdw (May 20, 2008 09:55PM)
[quote]
On 2008-05-17 23:28, mesmer wrote:
I have this Enlightment...Cute....it is now in the drwaing...not because it is Not Good...it is very Good indeed, but I haven't found Motivation/Reason/Meaning that truly Conncet to me of why the cards float up and then Down.....

and plus I have so many things to work on at this moment, I use this Cute Magical Effect to entertain my self

now back to the Thinking Room!
[/quote]

I find it odd how some of us manage to buy something and only after we have played with it we realise that we have no place for it based on motivation for the effect, or what have you.

That is all information you would have known without buying the product.

That's like buying a DVD, taking it home, looking it over, and saying, "This looks like a great product, and I may have a use for it someday, but right now it is going in the drawer because I do not have a DVD player.

I don't mean to criticize you, mesmer, I have done this myself, but it is usually after an impulse buy, or realizing that a METHOD is not practical for the application I had in mind, but never have I just bought an item (outside of impulse buys) where it was the EFFECT that made me put it aside.

You know the effect BEFORE you buy it, and can know if you have a use for it or not, yes?

Again, I do not want to sound critical, or what have you, just very curious how this comes about.

Thanks
Glenn
Message: Posted by: gdw (May 20, 2008 10:00PM)
[quote]
On 2008-05-20 07:06, dinger136 wrote:
After reading the 30+ pages of posts on this item, and without seeing the item at all (I am deployed), I would say that there are many people who really thought this was going to be some device that you could look at and it would just work. Or they thought it would be real magic. The problem is, if it was they would probably still be dissapointed.

I think this item has a great deal of potential if you look at WHAT IT DOES and not HOW IT DOES IT.

P.S.

I have always enjoyed COSMOSIS.
[/quote]

I am so SICK of people trying to dismiss this thinking as naive belief in Ben finding "real magic."

Magnetic levitation, using said "sweet spot" IS possible, and is used by MANY products. It is sold as a novelty. Ben's wording made it sound VERY much like he was touting having found a way to harness that magnetic sweet spot to genuinely levitate a playing card.

There is nothing there that WE deceived our SELVES with.
Message: Posted by: Silvio Solaris (May 20, 2008 10:07PM)
You got it right 100% GDW. I can count myself to the one's believing that it was 100% a 'magnetic levitation' using the FORCE...?
Oooh Luke where art thou?
Message: Posted by: Tim Jahn (May 21, 2008 07:34AM)
Well... If you have not purchased enlightenment, I would say that it would be very difficult to say that you have been "Misled" at all? I mean.. How can you say you've been misled into NOT buying something that you feel you've been misled about? Funny.

On another front, If I DID buy enlightenment and I DIDN'T believe that it was some sort of magical/magnetic/fairy assisted card levitation, Did I mislead mySELF? Should I have believed that it was something I knew it wasn't?
I don't think so.

So whats the point here? There were undoubtedly TWO different thought processes at work here. A few who believe they were misled and those who obviously don't.

If you feel that you were misled into believing that the laws of physics were suddenly squashed, I feel bad for you. If you bought it, Try to sell it and maybe cut your loses. If you didn't buy it, Get off it.
Message: Posted by: The Mac (May 21, 2008 07:52AM)
For there to be more than one or two people stating they have been mislead obviously shows there is a problem. If you can't see that then you need some enlightenment.
Message: Posted by: booswain (May 21, 2008 08:26AM)
I just purchased a real fairy Tim. But I feel I have been mislead. The fairy is only 2 inches in height when it looked like she was 2.5 inches in the video demo and also you can not look beneath her while she is levitating.
Message: Posted by: Tim Jahn (May 21, 2008 10:22AM)
Great!!! Then enlightenment shouldn't be any problem for you! Heck.. you don't even to buy anything either past the fairy purchase except for fairy food.(And the psychiatric sessions of course). Why can't you look beneath her while shes levitating? Does SHE have something attached? :worry:

For the record Mac, There are many people who DON'T believe that they were misled. Is that concrete Proof there is not a problem? Maybe. At least not any more than a few people thinking that they WERE misled proving that there is.

Look it really doesn't matter. There are defiantly two fronts at work here. I don't feel that I was misled and you obviously do. Like I said Mac, Perhaps you can sell it.
Message: Posted by: booswain (May 21, 2008 11:42AM)
I rewatched the demo on this...while I don't plan on buying this effect..it looks beautiful...i would love to see it performed live
Message: Posted by: jcrai (May 21, 2008 12:10PM)
[quote]
On 2008-05-21 11:22, Tim Jahn wrote:
Great!!! Then enlightenment shouldn't be any problem for you! Heck.. you don't even to buy anything either past the fairy purchase except for fairy food.(And the psychiatric sessions of course). Why can't you look beneath her while shes levitating? Does SHE have something attached? :worry:

For the record Mac, There are many people who DON'T believe that they were misled. Is that concrete Proof there is not a problem? Maybe. At least not any more than a few people thinking that they WERE misled proving that there is.

Look it really doesn't matter. There are defiantly two fronts at work here. I don't feel that I was misled and you obviously do. Like I said Mac, Perhaps you can sell it.
[/quote]

What is your motivation in continually posting on this subject?
Message: Posted by: thehawk (May 21, 2008 12:31PM)
[quote]
On 2008-05-21 13:10, jcrai wrote:
[quote]
On 2008-05-21 11:22, Tim Jahn wrote:
Great!!! Then enlightenment shouldn't be any problem for you! Heck.. you don't even to buy anything either past the fairy purchase except for fairy food.(And the psychiatric sessions of course). Why can't you look beneath her while shes levitating? Does SHE have something attached? :worry:

For the record Mac, There are many people who DON'T believe that they were misled. Is that concrete Proof there is not a problem? Maybe. At least not any more than a few people thinking that they WERE misled proving that there is.

Look it really doesn't matter. There are defiantly two fronts at work here. I don't feel that I was misled and you obviously do. Like I said Mac, Perhaps you can sell it.
[/quote]

What is your motivation in continually posting on this subject?
[/quote]
He does not feel he was misled and he likes it. Out of all the ones sold most are not responding here or they like it enough to not post a negative review. The reason I say that is because their have only been a handfull here for sale at the Café out of all the ones sold.
I believe Chris's routine will take this effect onto another level. The card goes up while held in spectator's hand, then descends and they can take top card and look at it and find nothing. To me that's pretty impressive. If you expected more, sorry but that's it.
Some people buy a Card Through Window expecting a magic bullet. They are all the same with the set up being different in each one. People expected a magic bullet here also but its just a magic trick. Lets move on and go to reviews good or bad.
Message: Posted by: Joshua Barrett (May 21, 2008 12:38PM)
"He does not feel he was misled and he likes it."

why does that lead to mocking of those who don't?
Message: Posted by: thehawk (May 21, 2008 12:44PM)
I guess he feels strong about ENLIGHTENMENT. Maybe Ben shouldn't have released so much info about it. Probably sold the same amount and less hassle.
Problem was some people believed it worked due to info released by magnetic repullsion due to earlier posts.
Message: Posted by: gdw (May 21, 2008 12:50PM)
[quote]
On 2008-05-21 08:34, Tim Jahn wrote:
Well... If you have not purchased enlightenment, I would say that it would be very difficult to say that you have been "Misled" at all? I mean.. How can you say you've been misled into NOT buying something that you feel you've been misled about? Funny.

On another front, If I DID buy enlightenment and I DIDN'T believe that it was some sort of magical/magnetic/fairy assisted card levitation, Did I mislead mySELF? Should I have believed that it was something I knew it wasn't?
I don't think so.

So whats the point here? There were undoubtedly TWO different thought processes at work here. A few who believe they were misled and those who obviously don't.

If you feel that you were misled into believing that the laws of physics were suddenly squashed, I feel bad for you. If you bought it, Try to sell it and maybe cut your loses. If you didn't buy it, Get off it.
[/quote]

Why the **** do you keep insisting that we would be morons to believe this, by claiming laws of physics would have to be broken for it to be what we were lead to believe it was?

I have shown over and over again that it is NOT impossible, and there are MANY products that do just this. It is completely reasonable to believe that someone had adapted already existing physics, not breaking laws of physics, into a workable size for this application.
Message: Posted by: The Mac (May 21, 2008 01:32PM)
Tim, my point was that it wasnt an anomally of one person feeling mislead, there are more than one which means there is something misleading...nevermind.
Message: Posted by: magicianinja (May 21, 2008 03:16PM)
[quote]
On 2008-05-20 21:25, jamie9 wrote:
I didn't read my instructions and got the paradime shifter to close to the gimmick and they hit each other and now my gimmick doesn't lay flat. Is it broken?
[/quote]

I am thinking that the gimmich won't lay flat after a few uses anyway. At least mine doesn't. The weight of the top piece is heavy towards the "active" end, causing the middle to ramp upwards a little. I've been looking at mine trying to figure out how to compensate or if it's really that big of a deal. I'm thinking of adding a few more cards to the breather. Hmmm.

The instruction book says the MPL should start to rise when bringing the driver within 8 inches. I'm using the paradigm shifter and I still have to get within 4" to get the effect to start. Is anyone else getting the start at 8 inches?
Message: Posted by: Bill Lhotta (May 21, 2008 05:26PM)
Greetings!

I have similar symptoms with my gimmick (i.e. cap card not going all the way down and activation occurring at 4.5" with a magnet equivalent to the Paradigm Shifter).

One solution I was thinking of was to replace the magnet in the MLP with a slightly thicker and stronger one. Right now I believe the MLP magnet is a 1"x1/2"x1/16" N42 magnet. You could upgrade this by using a 1"/1/2"x1/8" N50 magnet. This would provide more weight to pull the cap card down flush again and also give a greater activation distance.

Be aware that adding the larger magnet to the MLP would require you to modify the gimmick (i.e. remove part of the MLP bottom under the existing magnet) or add some additional cards to the top of your block.

Hope that helps!

** Bill **

[quote]
On 2008-05-21 16:16, magicianinja wrote:

I am thinking that the gimmich won't lay flat after a few uses anyway. At least mine doesn't. The weight of the top piece is heavy towards the "active" end, causing the middle to ramp upwards a little. I've been looking at mine trying to figure out how to compensate or if it's really that big of a deal. I'm thinking of adding a few more cards to the breather. Hmmm.

The instruction book says the MPL should start to rise when bringing the driver within 8 inches. I'm using the paradigm shifter and I still have to get within 4" to get the effect to start. Is anyone else getting the start at 8 inches?
[/quote]
Message: Posted by: magicianinja (May 21, 2008 06:34PM)
Adding 2 more cards to my breather worked for me. I just amazed a few people at the pub.
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (May 21, 2008 09:25PM)
Jamie9,

As indicated in our PM to you, if you supply your name and address we'll immediately send you a new gimmick by airmail at no cost.

Magicianinja,

Well sorted!

Cheers

Ben
Message: Posted by: Robert M (May 22, 2008 10:28AM)
Ingenious... absolutely ingenious. I have never seen anything like this in magic before.

Robert

PS - I wish the decks were available now. Hey, I'm lazy. But, Ben obviously isn't.
Message: Posted by: dreamadream99 (May 22, 2008 03:59PM)
My gimmick arrived damaged. Most likely curious customs officials, but the inner plastic chain had been severed between 2 adjoining sides. I emailed Ben, and he offered to airmail a new gimmick to Canada the next day.

Now that's some fine after-sales service. Bravo Ben. I will of course mail back the damaged gimmick, with post charges, as per his instructions, but the fact that he offered to airmail it, free of charge, shows how ethically Ben is treating the purchasers of his creation.
Message: Posted by: thehawk (May 22, 2008 04:19PM)
Customs like it so much they have to play with them first./Gerry
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (May 22, 2008 06:56PM)
Dream,

Please keep the old gimmick. No need for you to spend any extra money sending it back. Pull it apart for spares!

Cheers

Ben
Message: Posted by: Mercury52 (May 23, 2008 12:14AM)
I had my first performance for a "lay audience" tonight. I showed this to my Uncle, who is not a magician himself, but is somewhat magically savvy, after having been my primary test audience for about 1.5 years now. He doesn't know a lot of methods and things, but he does know some basic principles (he was with me the first time I ever bought IT about 10 years ago, etc.)

I had built up a good bit of confidence with this after showing it around the local shop last week in front of magicians, so tonight seemed like a good time to give it a whirl for a more 'normal' spectator.

Let me say that my uncle is not shy one measly bit about speaking his mind when it comes to ideas for the method, things I may have flashed or flubbed, etc.

After I performed it, he just kept commenting on how good it looked, how he was watching really closely for something but didn't see anything, etc. It his mind, it was nothing but a fair selection, which was placed face-up on the deck, floated up and back down, and was given back to him. Clean. Simple.

Definitely enjoying Enlightenment so far! This has also been with a 'quick' version of the install. I can't wait to get my hands on the deck made by Ben so that I have a 'true' unit!

Thumbs up for sure!
Message: Posted by: The Mac (May 23, 2008 01:02AM)
Could you use more than 1 gimmick to increase lift power and pick up something bigger?How much does and additional mlp cost?
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (May 23, 2008 03:03AM)
The Mac,

You cannot use two MLP's to create greater lift or to lift heavier weights. BUT you can reconfigure the CONCEPT with larger magnets to lift anything (within certain boundaries, of course!).

I regularly use a self-contained "floating book" and will perform it live with a genuine audience on the forthcoming DVD. This is an example of reconfiguring the CONCEPT.

I may have copped some flack re Enlightenment NOT being a revolutionary breakthrough in physics, and that's all fair enough. I'll take it on the chin.

BUT let's not forget something very important.

The Enlightenment Concept IS A NEW WAY of using magnets--albeit, a mechanical one. To me, this in itself is MORE important that any other aspect. Being new, it has yet to live its life, yet to fully develop, mature, evolve, mutate. All the real fun is ahead of us!

So, let's all explore the possibilities.

That's why I released it.

Cheers

Ben
Message: Posted by: TheAmazingSteveo (May 23, 2008 03:27AM)
This one will do a great levitation with enlightenment from across the room! It's a great driver:

http://www.unitednuclear.com/magnetfull7.jpg

You might have a little problem flashing it though ...
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (May 23, 2008 03:45AM)
Wouldn't want to hide that one in your pants. Your family history would be forever altered. LOL

Ben
Message: Posted by: frank54 (May 23, 2008 07:11AM)
I just purchased Enlightenment with the paradigm shifter and when I assembled them with the cards it immediately attached to the magnet. When I tried to detached it carefully , the gimmick didn’t returned to its flat form .
Does somebody have any solution ?
I sent several emails to Ben explaining my problem but I didn’t get any response from him.
I’m very disappointed .
Message: Posted by: flekka (May 23, 2008 08:34AM)
Ben
Have you finished the CUSTOM INSTALLED DECKS... have they been dispached ..etc
I understand they take a while to build , and that you have been on the case..
( no pun).. just wondering if the inital orders have been compleated and sent..
becouse I can't wait to get mine...
Been using the deck I made ... getting great reactions...

john
Message: Posted by: thehawk (May 23, 2008 01:36PM)
[quote]
On 2008-05-23 09:34, flekka wrote:
Ben
Have you finished the CUSTOM INSTALLED DECKS... have they been dispached ..etc
I understand they take a while to build , and that you have been on the case..
( no pun).. just wondering if the inital orders have been compleated and sent..
becouse I can't wait to get mine...
Been using the deck I made ... getting great reactions...

john
[/quote]


Supposed to be out next week Ben told me.
Message: Posted by: magicianinja (May 23, 2008 02:11PM)
[quote]
On 2008-05-23 08:11, frank54 wrote:
I just purchased Enlightenment with the paradigm shifter and when I assembled them with the cards it immediately attached to the magnet. When I tried to detached it carefully , the gimmick didn’t returned to its flat form .
Does somebody have any solution ?
[/quote]

I'm thinking that it doesn't lie fully flat after a few uses anyway. Just add a couple more cards to your breather and you should be fine.

Also, look through the thread there are links to other precautions, like to always have something in the way between your drive magnet and the MLP. I always have my fingers in the way because I fingerpalm the driver anyway. This way, if I get too close, it won't damage the MLP.
Message: Posted by: LAmaze5410 (May 23, 2008 02:56PM)
[quote]
On 2008-05-23 08:11, frank54 wrote:
I just purchased Enlightenment with the paradigm shifter and when I assembled them with the cards it immediately attached to the magnet. When I tried to detached it carefully , the gimmick didn’t returned to its flat form .
Does somebody have any solution ?
I sent several emails to Ben explaining my problem but I didn’t get any response from him.
I’m very disappointed .
[/quote]

That's a shame.
Did you reead everything first before playing around with it?
Message: Posted by: rsen (May 23, 2008 03:26PM)
Well, I recently received my Enlightenment. It was what I had expected (and I ordered it before any of the reviews came in on this forum), so my comments reflect that. I'll get right to the point-WOW. What an ingenius little gimmick. I have tried for some time to come up with something that would leviate a small object, in a magical way, with magnets, to no avail. This really works well.

Yes, I know it is not "true" magnetic levitation (like the previously mentioned Levitron device, or levitating pyrolytic graphite 2mm above a bed of cube magnets), but until someone comes up with a much smaller, portable device that does what the Levitron does, this is the best there is, IMHO.
In fact, because you can control the ascent and descent of the card in a nice slow, controlled manner, I would suggest that this is MORE magical than a real magnetic levitation, which is more a static suspension than a levitation.

I don't want to fuel the heated debate about what was or wasn't promised, etc, etc, but I must say I feel a little sorry for the individual on this forum that ordered Enlightenment, had it in his hands, but then decided to return it to his dealer for a refund without ever having actually tried the device. (Yes I know he wouldn't have been able to return it if it was opened). I just think he is missing out on a nifty little gimmick/method of levitating a card, or other object using the same concept. Again, this is just my opinion. To each his own.

I look forward to playing with this thing and performing it. Thank you Mr. Harris for coming up with this.
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (May 23, 2008 04:26PM)
Hi Frank54,

Never received your emails, mate. PM me here and we'll walk through it.

Flekka,

All the CIDs will be finished THIS weekend and sent out on Monday. That's the lot of pre-orders. Once again, thanks to everyone for their patience.

rsn,

Thanks for your kind words.

Cheers

Ben
Message: Posted by: flekka (May 23, 2008 07:26PM)
Ben,
Thank you for the reply, I understand... realise there was a lot to make up ..
just looking forward to it.... not worried,.. it gets here when it gets here..

john
Message: Posted by: frank54 (May 24, 2008 04:01PM)
Dear Ben,

Thanks for your email & sorry , I thought you received them all ,the very first one I sent May 15.Anyway, I hope you could help me with this problem,the gimmick which doesn't get to its flat position despite adding two or three cards.

Frank54
Message: Posted by: magicianinja (May 25, 2008 01:56PM)
Hey people, if you can't find the blue pen that Ben recommends, I've found another marker that matches Bicycle blue perfectly. It's the Pentel Handy-Lines Retractable marker sold in a three pack of red/black/blue at Staples. FYI.
Message: Posted by: dreamadream99 (May 26, 2008 12:20PM)
RE: Flatness.

Seems to me if the gimmick gets extended past a certain point, one of the components has trouble returning to a flat state. It can get over-extended if it is "sucked out" as per Ben's supplementary pdf instructions. It can also get over-extended if you force it open by hand.

In future releases, it would be nice if the bendable component were more like a free hinge, rather than a material that has trouble returning to a flat state after it is bent at a 90 degree angle.

For now, I think we all have to be careful not to over-extend it. Keep your drive magnet at a safe distance, anchor your gimmick (or block with your hand) to prevent "suck out", and don't push the height of the levitation to its max.
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (May 26, 2008 03:53PM)
Hi Guys,

If you store the block (with gimmick) in the middle of your deck, it will recover it's memory and will be all set for performance when you need it. The deck I use everyday acts in excatly the same way. Keep it stored as above, and you'll be fine.


Cheers

Ben
Message: Posted by: LAmaze5410 (May 26, 2008 04:50PM)
Ben,

Your avitar cracks me up!!!
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (May 27, 2008 04:29PM)
Hi Everyone.

Just a quick note to advise that all back-orderd CID's (Custom Installed Decks) have been shipped by AIRMAIL, today. So, if you've yet to receive yours then it has gone out in this final batch.

We have a couple of "overs" and a couple of cancelled orders due to the delay. If you want one, check the BLOG for info.

The BLOG will be updated later today. Lot's of new tips and bits N pieces. It's been more than a few days since it's been updated, so I'll be playing catch up!

Cheers

Ben
http://www.wowbound.com/blog.html
Message: Posted by: jonnyboy (May 27, 2008 07:26PM)
Ben- I couldn't see how much the CID's were going for, based on the blog. I might have missed it. I love the effect, but think that someone more skilled than me at crafts could do a better job than I did on my installation.

John
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (May 27, 2008 07:54PM)
Hi John,

Thanks for your feedback. The blog is being updated over the next hour or so.

Cheers

Ben
Message: Posted by: ctrlz (May 27, 2008 09:23PM)
Wow, the custom install decks look great. Ben, just sent you an email about purchasing one. After playing around with the original Gimmick, I'm eagerly awaiting a deck that was built with a bit more skill, so I can use the original for other ideas.


Cheers,


Chris
Message: Posted by: frank54 (Jun 4, 2008 06:37AM)
Hi Ben

I just want to express my sincere thanks to you who knows how to keep a promise.

You're really great!!!!

frank
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Jun 5, 2008 08:36PM)
Thanks guys. I appreciate your feedback and comments.

To further extrapolate on the underlying principle, we'll be making a video of the FLOATING BOOK version available shortly. The purpose of releasing the video will be to promote discussion and experimentation.

This is a different way of applying the Enlightenment Principle. It's "inverted" (in so much that a genuinely heavy weight, ie: a full kilo, is lifted).

The "inversion" removes the previous and limited weight restriction. It will be fully explained and taught in the forethcoming "Development Kit". It's an example of "another way" of applying the underlying principle.

Cheers guys.

Ben
Message: Posted by: Jsmith45 (Jun 6, 2008 09:53AM)
A floating book version sounds really good for haunted magic presentations.
Thanks Ben, for your continued efforts and dedication.
Message: Posted by: Review King (Jun 6, 2008 01:31PM)
I received my Custom Deck this week. It is a beautiful piece of work. The one I made was sufficient and did the job, but it's like the difference bewtween what I amde and Ben's work is like a Hugo and a Ferrari.

The card that "raises" up is not even detectable by me. That's how clean it looks.

Ben, thanks for the incredible work you put into this!
Message: Posted by: Jsmith45 (Jun 6, 2008 02:36PM)
[quote]
On 2008-06-06 14:31, Christopher Kavanagh wrote:
I received my Custom Deck this week. It is a beautiful piece of work. The one I made was sufficient and did the job, but it's like the difference bewtween what I amde and Ben's work is like a Hugo and a Ferrari.
[/quote]

There's nothing like driving in style.
Message: Posted by: Decomposed (Jun 10, 2008 04:52PM)
[quote]
On 2008-05-26 17:50, LAmaze5410 wrote:
Ben,

Your avitar cracks me up!!!
[/quote]

Is that the new enlighted butterfly in front of him?
Message: Posted by: Decomposed (Jun 10, 2008 05:06PM)
[quote]
On 2008-06-05 21:36, Ben Harris wrote:
Thanks guys. I appreciate your feedback and comments.

To further extrapolate on the underlying principle, we'll be making a video of the FLOATING BOOK version available shortly. The purpose of releasing the video will be to promote discussion and experimentation.

This is a different way of applying the Enlightenment Principle. It's "inverted" (in so much that a genuinely heavy weight, ie: a full kilo, is lifted).

The "inversion" removes the previous and limited weight restriction. It will be fully explained and taught in the forethcoming "Development Kit". It's an example of "another way" of applying the underlying principle.

Cheers guys.

Ben
[/quote]

This I gotta see.
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Jun 10, 2008 05:17PM)
Candini,

Me too! ha ha!!

It's coming. We've been distracted.

Cheers

Ben
Message: Posted by: Douglas Lippert (Jun 10, 2008 09:54PM)
You guys do this as a one off? Or do you "ring in" the enlightenment packet? I do an ambitious card routine and then state that I will make things "easier" by getting rid of some cards (1/3 of the deck) and placing them in my shirt pocket. For the levitation I then ring in the gimmicked packet "for the finale." No one questions my going to the pocket twice because I perform this standing up and need some place to hold the cards. (The spectator holds the deck for the levitation).
Thanks for the great trick Ben!! I'm going to look into getting one of your CID's.
Message: Posted by: thehawk (Jun 10, 2008 10:31PM)
Ben's CID's are great. I just started learning to drive. Kind of like going from an automatic to a standard. The angles are a lot better than I thought. I want to work on it a little more before I show it.
For those that want to know the active end instead of Ben's way just have a spade or a heart on the bottom of the deck and have the sharp end pointing towards the active end beforehand. Quicker for those that need reading glasses or if its in a dimly lit room.
Message: Posted by: Marc Spelmann (Jun 11, 2008 05:19AM)
Having played with this for a good week or so I have to say my mind is mush, there are soo many possibilities with these devious little devices.. Ben has truly revolutionised the card levitation..

M.S.
Message: Posted by: marco1 (Jun 17, 2008 06:30AM)
I am still having an issue with how close my hand needs to be to the deck. I've heard that it should start to levitate at 6 inches away from the deck. This just isn't so (in my experience). I've approached the deck from many directions and the best I've been able to do (with Ben's custom m****t) is way less than 2 inches away which seems to give away that it's my hand/finger that's activating the lift. Not very magical.
I've spend days and days reading posts, going through instructions, building the breather gimmick and practicing... but sadly it's going in the sock drawer.
Message: Posted by: Ustaad (Jun 17, 2008 07:55AM)
[quote]
On 2008-06-17 07:30, marco1 wrote:
I am still having an issue with how close my hand needs to be to the deck.

[b][i]* I've heard that it should start to levitate at 6 inches away from the deck. This just isn't so (in my experience). I've approached the deck from many directions and the best I've been able to do (with Ben's custom m****t) is way less than 2 inches away which seems to give away that it's my hand/finger that's activating the lift. Not very magical.[/i][/b]

[b][i]* I've spend days and days reading posts, going through instructions, building the breather gimmick and practicing... but sadly it's going in the sock drawer.[/i][/b]
[/quote]

In magic one has to read the ad very carefully. Most ads are misleading to the fullest extent. It's a sad affair but one has to live with it. You must learn how to read between the lines and then take an informed decision.

One classic example of such an ad is on the [url=http://www.wowbound.com/blog.html][b]Enlightenment Blog[/b][/url] and probably the sole reason to your plight.

I had asked a very simple & specific question. The answer to my query was posted at the Blog. Please refer to the blog - "(April 23, 2008) Further Paradigm Shifter Info".

[b]My query :-[/b]

[quote]
On 2008-04-24 14:47, Ustaad wrote:
[quote]
On 2008-04-22 12:21, Ustaad wrote:

Just to get a comparative idea (for different size drive magnets):-

When using the suggested Paradigm Shifter magnet, [b]what is the average distance (distance between the edge of the card deck & the magnet) at which the Enlightenment Engine gets activated?[/b]
[/quote]

[b]OK, my question was answered at the blog. It was interesting to solve the circles so as to get the linier measurements. :)[/b]

I have one more question please.

How many bicycle cards can be lifted by the Enlightenment Engine when the Paradigm Shifter magnet is placed at the 6 inch circle border (periphery)?
[/quote]

The answer that was given (on the blog) was in its true sense & meaning was right-on and true to every word but totally misleading for the novice.

[b]"The Shifter activates the Enlightenment Engine when it is correctly positioned between 4" and 6" from the Engine assembly".[/b]

When one physically draws the diagram to scale (the easiest way to get your answer) you will find that the suggested Paradigm Shifter Magnet can levitate a card (a single card) from a meager distance of 0.5 to 1.5 inches from the edge of the card deck. And that’s the time I took a decision that the ‘Enlightenment’ was not for me & I developed my own magnetic lifting device (which I shared with a few of my friends here at the Café) costing just a buck and which could be very easily tuned to ones own needs/ requirements.

Hope this helps you in better understanding the Magical Advertisements in the future.

I feel sorry for you.

:xmas:
Message: Posted by: marco1 (Jun 17, 2008 09:02AM)
"In magic one has to read the ad very carefully. Most ads are misleading to the fullest extent."

I've been doing magic for over 30 years and thought I had asked myself (as well as the inventor} all the logical questions and still got stuck.

I had such high expectations, too.

(sigh)
Message: Posted by: Douglas Lippert (Jun 17, 2008 01:01PM)
Well, if you use a LARGER magnet and strap it to your leg...you can levitate a card from a distance of 6-10 inches from your leg. That is good enough for me.
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Jun 17, 2008 05:02PM)
Marco,

You could just email me via the blog and I could have helped.

Try bringing the magnet in at a slightly LOWER angle. If you think of an imaginary line between your nose and the deck, this is the correct approach path.

Ustaad,

The diagram at the blog is an "illustration" not to scale, I just drew it quickly to convey the general distances. Sorry if it led you astray.

The UNIT is activated from a good 4" to 6" away is correct. This is when the levitation can "start." To add EXTRA sensitivity you can piggy back a second motor magnet on the first.

There may be some people having a little bit of a problem with getting everything exact, but, that's what's going to happen when you have thousands of these "out there" and a demographic of 14-75.

The wonderful thing about a board like The Magic Café is that it allows us to assist each other in "almost real time."

See http://www.online-visions.com for a thorough and detailed review.


Cheers everyone.

Ben
Message: Posted by: Ustaad (Jun 17, 2008 07:47PM)
[quote]
On 2008-06-17 18:02, Ben Harris wrote:

Ustaad,

[b][i]* The diagram at the blog is an "illustration" not to scale,[/i][/b] I just drew it quickly to convey the general distances. Sorry if it led you astray.

[b][i]* The UNIT is activated from a good 4" to 6" away is correct.[/i][/b] This is when the levitation can "start."
[/quote]

Dear Mr. Harris,

Please allow me to quote Marco1 once again.

[quote]
On 2008-06-17 07:30, marco1 wrote:
I am still having an issue with how close my hand needs to be to the deck. I've heard that it should start to levitate at 6 inches away from the deck. This just isn't so (in my experience). I've approached the deck from many directions and the best I've been able to do (with Ben's custom m****t) is way less than 2 inches away which seems to give away that it's my hand/finger that's activating the lift. Not very magical.

[b][i]I've spend days and days reading posts, going through instructions, building the breather gimmick and practicing... but sadly it's going in the sock drawer.[/i][/b]
[/quote]

Reading the highlighted portion one can very well understand the plight of Marco1. It pains you when you read something like this.

You’re well aware of the many people who have complained about the activating distance between the shift magnet and the edge of the card deck being very less. The primary reason for this was the misleading diagram posted at the blog.

I do understand that the illustration at the blog is not to scale. I also understand how to convert a rough diagram to scale. I would not like to reiterate what I have said in my preceding post which is self explanatory. The activation distance of 4 to 6 inches is correct when taken from the centre of the deck as shown in the diagram. But most (almost everyone) did think (I presume) that [b]the activation of 4 to 6 inches was from the shift magnet to the front edge of the card deck[/b] and that lead to the dissatisfaction of your esteemed customers.

[quote]
On 2008-06-17 18:02, Ben Harris wrote:

[b][i] * To add EXTRA sensitivity you can piggy back a second motor magnet on the first. [/i][/b]
[/quote]

Sorry, I beg to differ on this point. The solution to the problem doesn’t lie in using a bigger & stronger shift magnet. It lies within the Enlightenment gimmick. With a slight increase in the strength of the Enlightenment gimmick it will cause the gimmick to rise from a greater distance using the same suggested shift magnet. But this might not be possible to do in a prefabricated ‘Enlightenment’ gimmick.

By piggy backing a second shift magnet on the first, the magnet will convert into a 1 inch CUBE which is a bit impractical to handle/ use.

I am sorry incase you felt I was a bit curt, but that is what I felt about the whole affair.

Thank you.

With kind regards,

Narendra

:xmas:
Message: Posted by: Robert M (Jun 17, 2008 08:34PM)
I think Ben has shown an extreme amount of patience in dealing with criticism from those who don't even own the effect. In fact, I think that's an understatement.

My suggestion is... buy "Enlightenment" in the custom installed deck, experiment with it, and *then* report back with your findings.

Personally, I think this is about the coolest thing I've ever seen as far as levitating cards go. ;-)

Robert
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Jun 18, 2008 12:20AM)
Ustaad, if you read what I said, it was...

"To add EXTRA sensitivity you can piggy back a second motor magnet on the first."

I said MOTOR magnet. That's the one in the gimmick, NOT the Paradigm Shifter.
See the Floating Car application (using a massively upscaled installation, of course) in an up and coming TV special.

Cheers

Ben
Message: Posted by: Ustaad (Jun 18, 2008 01:50AM)
[quote]
On 2008-06-18 01:20, Ben Harris wrote:
Ustaad, if you read what I said, it was...

"To add EXTRA sensitivity you can piggy back a second motor magnet on the first."

I said MOTOR magnet. That's the one in the gimmick, NOT the Paradigm Shifter.
See the Floating Car application (using a massively upscaled installation, of course) in an up and coming TV special.

Cheers

Ben
[/quote]

Dear Mr. Harris,

Oh! OK. I'm very sorry, my bad.

While this will increase the thickness of the pack slightly but it will do wonders in terms of lifting distance. It will help increase the distance to almost 1.5 to 1.7 times.

Cheers & kind regards,

Narendra

:xmas:
Message: Posted by: Review King (Jun 18, 2008 02:31AM)
[quote]
On 2008-06-17 21:34, Robert M wrote:
I think Ben has shown an extreme amount of patience in dealing with criticism from those who don't even own the effect. In fact, I think that's an understatement.

My suggestion is... buy "Enlightenment" in the custom installed deck, experiment with it, and *then* report back with your findings.

Personally, I think this is about the coolest thing I've ever seen as far as levitating cards go. ;-)

Robert
[/quote]

I know if I came up this I wouldn't have been as patient as Ben. I'm not even patient with things I didn't come up with.

Part of the fun of this is just playing around on your own ( similar to other human activity I guess ).

I agree about getting it with one of the custom decks. It makes a difference unelss you're a good crafter and even then, Ben's KNOWS the product, so his decks are works of art. Get one of those before making your own.
Message: Posted by: marco1 (Jun 18, 2008 05:39AM)
"I agree about getting it with one of the custom decks. It makes a difference unelss you're a good crafter and even then, Ben's KNOWS the product, so his decks are works of art."

My construction skills are quite good and my deck came out perfect. It's just that this thing does NOT start to levitate no matter what the angle until I'm within 1.5 inches from the front edge of the deck! I even tried a hugh rare earth magnet measuring 4x6 inches x 1 inch thick... and it started to lift at around 4 inches away. I can't imagine how anyone, without adding extra stuff to the in-deck motor magnet, is able to get lift at 4-6 inches away from the front of the deck's edge. Is anyone truely getting this result??

Let me also say that Ben was gracious enough to answer a number of private emails, trying to help... but sadly in the end, and $125 later, it just does not perform as expected. Perhaps, I should send Ben a few photographs showing the various angles I've held the PS magnet, in relation to the deck and he'll see what I'm seeing... no lift! (until I'm practically on top of it).
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Jun 18, 2008 07:36AM)
Hi Marco,

Let me send you a CID. Do I have your address details? With internet names, I get confused. I just have to much too do. I don't have the time to search the sales records (if I can avoid it). So, ensure I have your address and I'll get one off to you FREE by AIRMAIL.

Cheers mate

Ben
Message: Posted by: marco1 (Jun 18, 2008 07:04PM)
Ben,

Many thanks. Very generous of you.
Fingers crossed that it makes a difference.

Cheers
Marco
Message: Posted by: dreamadream99 (Jun 19, 2008 01:26PM)
Just to reiterate, I have had tremendous success with larger magnets. My 2" X 2" X 1/2" N42 at the sternum gives me an activation distance of about 6-8" between my body and the deck's edge. My 2" X 1" X 1/2" N52 at the kneecap, gives me about 5-7".
Message: Posted by: Bill Lhotta (Jun 19, 2008 05:14PM)
I have also had great success expanding the activation distance by replacing the engine magnet with a 1"x1/2"x1/8" N50 magnet. See Ben's [url=http://www.wowbound.com/blog.html] Blog[/url] for futher details. I did have to increase the size of my organic block to accommodate the thicker engine magnet.

I have also had great success with my CID using a 2"x2"x1/2" N52 magnet which you can simply keep in your pants pocket. If you perform this sitting you can initiate the activation of the engine by placing the deck above the magnet in your pocket and then use the paradigm shifter to continue driving the magnet. At this point you can actually remove the hand with the paradigm shifter and with just a slight downward movement of the deck the card will remain floating since the larger pocket magnet will be able to maintain the float. Combining two different sources for the drive magnet will totally throw off your spectators as there won't be one consistent source of movement or body part that they will be able to tie to the levitation. Using two magnets will also enable you to drive the levitation from a further distance using the standard Paradigm Shifter.

Cheers!

** Bill **
Message: Posted by: Al Straker (Jun 19, 2008 10:44PM)
Bill, That is great thinking! Well done.

Al
Message: Posted by: dreamadream99 (Jun 20, 2008 10:59AM)
Yes, great idea. I can't wait to try some things out with multiple magnets now.
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Jun 20, 2008 03:50PM)
That's a whole "Lhotta" cool, Bill.

Ben
Message: Posted by: Michael Clifton (Jun 20, 2008 05:57PM)
[quote]
On 2008-05-20 22:47, jamie9 wrote:
I just got this today and now my gimmick is completely broken. I broke it within 5 minutes of opening the pakage. My magnet got too close again and bent it open passed 90 degrees and it does work anymore. Im pretty disapointed. Hopefully I can send it back.
[/quote]

In exactly the same boat as jamie,but the front hinge broke as well. be carefull when you first recieve this!! Version 2 could do with being more robust or having a spare carcuss
Message: Posted by: peppis (Jun 21, 2008 11:46AM)
I have a question. Do the cid's come with a gimmick?
Thanks,
Aaron
Message: Posted by: Douglas Lippert (Jun 21, 2008 12:26PM)
I believe all you need is a PK style magnet that isn't a ring. If you have ever bought one of those "PK" kits with the very large magnet; you are set. Ben Harris sells a nice rubber coated one as well.
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Jun 21, 2008 07:29PM)
Hi Aaron,

The CID comes with a modified gimmick - installed. So long as you have a magnet with which to "drive" the deck, then you are ready to perform.

This is a good opportunity to advise of a price rise. In order to make the CIDs available in suitable quantity for DEALER distribution without sacrificing quality, the price must rise to US$69.95 plus PH.

This price rise is effective July 1, 2008 and is the price dealer's will be selling the deck for upon release on SEPTEMBER 1, 2008. Dealer units will be Blue Backed ONLY. They will be EXPERTLY hand-crafted by one of the best in the biz.

In the meantime, custom-made CID's are available in Red or Blue backed Bicycles direct from myself. If you order one BEFORE July 1, then you can secure the unit at the original US$59.95 plus US$10.00 PH.

See the BLOG for other vailable decks.
http://www.wowbound.com/blog.html

To order, or reserve a deck, email or PM me.
ben@wowbound.com

Cheers

Ben
Message: Posted by: peppis (Jun 21, 2008 09:56PM)
Thanks Ben.
Sent e-mail with my order.
Aaron
Message: Posted by: peppis (Jun 26, 2008 04:32PM)
Being the impatient sort that I am, I just purchased this from a local dealer(Magic Pro Shop) and received it yesterday. I agree with everyone that this is the most contemporary and professional looking packaging of a marketed effect that I have ever seen. Amazing 100 page booklet. Built a beautiful organic block in a matter of hours. This was easily accomplished by Ben's well written and concise instructions, complete with step by step photo illustrations. I am very grateful to Ben and others for posting their experiences because it helped me from making the same mistakes. My MlP-v1 functions perfectly and the organic block is truly deceptive and easy to handle. Possibilities abound with this great item. I also love loops but my poor eyesight sometimes causes me to struggle setting up lets say for a haunted deck. I love the option of using Enlightenment and although certainly different in effect and method, I do not have the same anxiety I do with using delicate thread. Thanks Ben for making such a wonderful product.

Aaron Martin
Message: Posted by: tpax (Jul 5, 2008 10:49AM)
Hi, I have a question. I am building my organic block and waiting for a 1/8" magnet for the engine. Should I expect to add a additional 1/16" worth of cards to accommodate the extra thickness?
I can't assemble until next week but wanted to have everything cut and ready to go.
Thanks!
Tom Paxton
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Jul 5, 2008 03:33PM)
Hi Tom,

Have a few extra cards cut, and customize it exactly when the magnet arrives. You can always just piggy-back another 1/16th" magnet, too. That's how I "supercharge" my own performance unit when required.

Cheers

Ben
Message: Posted by: TheAmazingSteveo (Jul 7, 2008 01:36AM)
I had a large M5 magnet that I was using for Enlightenment on my leg .. I had the polarity reversed and I wasn't holding on the top of the deck. I had the deck on an angle .. I kid you not the top portion of the deck with Enlightenment slid off like a haunted deck .. and then the card moved forward. I thought it was a fluke but I just repeated it again. Looks REALLY COOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Jul 7, 2008 03:12PM)
Hi Steveo,

Yes, you can do a "Haunted Deck" thingy, like you've discovered. You're thinking "outside the box" which is so cool. Example...

A few other people have reported this but DISMISSED it by asking "how can I stop the block from sliding?"

In fact, if you want you can eliminate the "Enlightenment" element and just use a small magnetic block of cards for a magnetic version of The "Haunted Deck". Several cards can thus be revealed in succession.

Oh, a lovely idea from the legendary Ken Krenzel just in. This is in regards using Enlightenment in an Ambitious Card Routine. David Regal (another Enlightemnet lover) hooked us up on the phone. Ken and I had not spoken for decades, so it was a gas! Ken's clever idea will appear the "Development Kit" (Sept 1 release).

Cheers

Ben
Message: Posted by: TheAmazingSteveo (Jul 8, 2008 02:34AM)
Hi Ben,

Thanx for the ideas!

This really freaked me out when it happened accidentially because I wasn't expecting it. Sort of like when I had an extra 6 of hearts in a deck and the spectator randomly selected it .. then I finished up the WOW routine -- I was DEFINTELY more freaked out then the spectator!!!

- Steveo
Message: Posted by: peppis (Jul 8, 2008 04:57PM)
I too discovered the haunted deck capability of Enlightenment. I have a round powerful 1 1/2 X 1 inch thick magnet that I attached to a chrome tape measure clip. I wear the clip on the ridge of my pants in between my left hip and belly button. The weight of the magnet dips to the perfect angle required to activate the engine and the clip prevents it from falling off. Holding the deck waist height I can start movement around 6-8 inches away from my body. Because of the dip I can wear a shirt or jersey over it without anyone noticing a bulge. If I wear a suit jacket there is still good activation. I have also fashioned a Sharpie with a tube magnet 3/4 thru the body that works well also. Love this product...

Aaron
Message: Posted by: kissdadookie (Jul 13, 2008 10:47PM)
Ben, I've PMd you buddy. Thanks!
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Jul 15, 2008 08:33PM)
Hi Kissdadookie.

Have no PM from you.
Email me at ben@wowbound.com

Cheers mate

Ben
Message: Posted by: Review King (Jul 15, 2008 10:40PM)
It's so exciting to see all this creativity being sparked by Ben's wonderful creation. This is just the surface!
Message: Posted by: AaronishMagic (Jul 22, 2008 07:06PM)
It's interesting in its working and high quality produced. Though I would not comment on the praticality.

Aaronish
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Jul 24, 2008 07:25PM)
Hi AaronishMagic,

Thanks for your feedback. Maybe you could brainstorm on the "practicality" side and help to develop the idea further. The more ideas the better. Let's take it to the proverbial "next level."

There are lots of ideas to appear in the book acoompanying the Development Kit. This will be released on Sept 1, and will also contain loose magnets and gimmick bits so that you may assemble and configure them YOUR way, thus exploring new territory.

Cheers, mate!

Ben
Message: Posted by: Review King (Jul 24, 2008 10:14PM)
The CID from Ben are stealth decks. When I opened the package and took the deck out of the card box, I was looking through the packaging for the unit. I could not tell it was in the deck.

Enlightenment is quite practical. It's not a once in a while, special occasion, right conditions, effect. It's a mriacle in a deck of cards.

If you're a performer ( you can be 16 and a hobbyist and be a performer ) and present yourself properly, this effects sells itself. Their chosen card rises off the deck and lowers back down.

Some folks use IT and come away with people thinking strings and magnets. Others perform with it and people freak because they saw a miracle.

Any levitating effect is like that. A bad zombie ball presentation ruins the effect. A well performed one captivates the audience.

Yes, I love Enlightenment. I think it's too inexpensive considering the research, development and what the final product can do.
Message: Posted by: Douglas Lippert (Jul 24, 2008 10:41PM)
[quote]
On 2008-07-24 20:25, Ben Harris wrote:
Hi AaronishMagic,

Thanks for your feedback. Maybe you could brainstorm on the "practicality" side and help to develop the idea further. The more ideas the better. Let's take it to the proverbial "next level."

There are lots of ideas to appear in the book acoompanying the Development Kit. This will be released on Sept 1, and will also contain loose magnets and gimmick bits so that you may assemble and configure them YOUR way, thus exploring new territory.

Cheers, mate!

Ben
[/quote]

Any idea yet on the price? Would be great if you kept it under $100.
Message: Posted by: goldeneye007 (Jul 25, 2008 07:26AM)
It would indeed... :)
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Jul 29, 2008 07:06PM)
Sorry it has taken so long to reply.

We've been very busy getting everything sorted to allow the release of both the CID(Custom Installed Deck)and the Development Kit--ON TIME, September, 2008.

The CIDs are being factory die-cut and then hand assembled. All dealers will have stock, first week in September. Price will be $69.95 and they'll be blue backed Bicycles only. If you want any special decks, other than the blue backed Bikes, you can custom order directly from me. We're just assembling a Red Backed Masters Deck for a client. Wow, they are sweet cards!

The Development Kit will be ONLY $45.00. It's a bargain. And, the 100 page book that accompanies it is full of ideas that will keep us all going for ages. Ken Krenzel, an old friend who I've not seen in decades, called from NY to pass along a stunning idea that will appear in the book. You also receive two motor magnets, two internal black folding bits (Enlightenment owners will know what I mean) and a spacer. You can configure these any way you like to create numerous effects of your own, or those described in the book. Available from all dealers, Sept.

Here's the electronic flyer. It's a PDF so you'll need to RIGHT CLICK to save to your hard drive, then double click to view the saved file in Acrobat.

http://www.wowbound.com/EnlightenmentDkitandCIDinfo.pdf

The website has not been updated yet, that will follow over the next couple of weeks. So, the above flyer is the ONLY official piece of information available at present.

Watch out for David Regal's full and comprehensive review of Enlightenment in the September issue of Genii.

Cheers

Ben
Message: Posted by: Review King (Jul 29, 2008 07:22PM)
Ben, that's excting news and the price is so low for what you get and what you can do with Enlightenment.

Thanks for the great update!
Message: Posted by: Douglas Lippert (Jul 30, 2008 07:21PM)
I agree, thanks Ben.
Message: Posted by: goldeneye007 (Jul 31, 2008 08:03AM)
Good news indeed!!! :)
Message: Posted by: Review King (Aug 3, 2008 01:15AM)
The Enlightenment website has been updated. The book “FURTHER ENLIGHTENMENT" is 100 pages and comes in the development kit.

http://www.wowbound.com/index1a.html

The "Enlightenment' movement is growing!
Message: Posted by: Steven70s (Aug 12, 2008 06:44PM)
Hi
I definitely gonna buy Enlightenment. But I got a question. If I buy a CiD, Then I will only need a PK-magnet? So I do not need the other Enlightenment set? (and where to buy a CiD?)

(PS: Sorry for the bad english, I'm Dutch :) )
Message: Posted by: R. Dunn (Aug 13, 2008 02:28AM)
You need the cid and a good pk magnet to make it work.If you have an m5 it will work. Hope this helped.
Message: Posted by: Steven70s (Aug 13, 2008 05:29AM)
Yes, it helped, thanks.

Wil this magnet work? Or should I get another one
http://www.worldmagicshop.co.uk/25mm-25mm-thick-neodymium-magnet-pack-p-5041.html

Cause I think it looks a little too cheap?
Message: Posted by: R. Dunn (Aug 13, 2008 08:22AM)
Best bet is to get the paradigm shifter magnet from ben Harris.
Message: Posted by: Douglas Lippert (Aug 13, 2008 09:57AM)
Does it matter if the magnet looks cheap? The spectator is not supposed to see it to begin with! Best bet is to buy what works for you.
Message: Posted by: Kjellstrom (Aug 13, 2008 10:32AM)
Will a [b]Magnetic Ring[/b] do the work?

Omega Ring, Elohim Ring, Wizard PK Ring, or similar...

Example: http://www.magic.org/store/product_info.php?products_id=4771
Message: Posted by: Steven70s (Aug 13, 2008 10:47AM)
DVLKCC,
I meant the price was cheap and I don't know if its good quality for use with Enlightenment

Kjellstrom,
I thought I read you can not use a PK-ring somewhere in this topic
Message: Posted by: Douglas Lippert (Aug 13, 2008 12:32PM)
No PK Rings do not work! I have tried using a Wizard PK Ring...you have to basically almost touch the card with the ring to make it rise.

Steven70s, I have using Ben Harris' magnet and it works pretty good. Though, you have to get really close for it to "activate." I prefer a larger magnet strapped to my thigh. That way I can be farther away and show my hands empty.
In regards to the cheap magnet...if you think it is a good deal buy it.
Message: Posted by: Steven70s (Aug 13, 2008 02:14PM)
Do you have link of the magnet that you use? I have no knowledge of PK-magnets. And I do not understand how this trick works. Is explaining me exposure? Is every card gaffed or something?
Message: Posted by: Steven70s (Aug 14, 2008 11:42AM)
Like is the card rising by some magnetic force or is there just a part that bends or something
Message: Posted by: Bill Lhotta (Aug 14, 2008 01:10PM)
I would not recommend going with anything smaller than the Paradigm Shifter otherwise you will have to get too close to the deck to cause the initial activation of the levitation. The magnet you have the link to is too thin (i.e. 5mm). The Paradigm Shifter is 14mm thick.

Cheers!

** Bill **
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Aug 14, 2008 06:28PM)
Great to see all the magnet discussion.

You can also be clever and conceal a round magnet in the body of a pen, or conceal a block magnet in a card case, etc. I personally keep a Paradigm Shifter magnet in my eye-glass case. As I'm always taking my glasses on and off, the glasses case is always something that's within easy and LOGICAL reach. Lots of applications will be taught in the DEVELOPMENT KIT which will be available in September.

Cheers

Ben
Message: Posted by: Cyberqat (Aug 17, 2008 12:05AM)
I do love my Enlightment. I need to get pretty close with the finger palmed magnet though. I've been excusing it by extending a pointing finger and then staticly "charging" it on my hair and using it like a wand above the cards. It makes me a bit nervous just because mentioning anything magenticc Im afraidf might lead the audiance in the wrong (right) direction.

It would be great if someone could collect the other ideas on driving it on a website somewhere. I have a big PK magnet that is hidden in a cradle under my bar but Im a pit reluctant to try to hide it on my person cause it is SO thick. Are PK pro magents as strong? I hear they are thinner. Or does anyone have suggestions for other magnets to try and where to wear them?

I'm using my own block which is far from perfect and I'll probably buy a pro block (are they available yet? if so from which dealers?)

Only really negative comment I have, ben, is that I don't thin kthe "grab it in the air" implication is right. First time I showed this to my wife she did just that... and grabbed the gimmick under the card along with the card :( These days I watch for any attempt to grab it and drop it back to rest fine. As long as I do that the grab seems safe.
Message: Posted by: Douglas Lippert (Aug 17, 2008 01:00AM)
Yeah, your negative comment about not being able to "grab it" mid-air is what EVERYONE was arguing about.

There is no such thing as real magic. :)
Message: Posted by: Cyberqat (Aug 19, 2008 04:46PM)
You know, to be fair to Ben....

I just reread his copy. He said the audiance could grab the card and examine it. He never DID say they could do so while it was in mid air.

He maybe did violate his promise "not to hype" a bit. But asking a magician not to egnage in hyperbole, particularly about something they are genuinely excited about (and I think Ben is, with good reason) is a lot like asking a fish not to swim ;)

Really Ben, it IS a remarkable gimmick and a wonderfully deceptive application in the block. I find myself wondering what kind of tools you had to use to prototype this gizmo and where you had to go to get it manufactured.
Message: Posted by: Cyberqat (Aug 24, 2008 10:36PM)
I've been playing with my Enlightenment and various kinds of drivers.

I get quite a good range with my PK wallet. I've also found that concealing the shifter in the cuff of my jacket is quite effective. Everyone is looking at my hand and no one notices that the cuff hangs down much closer to the deck.
Message: Posted by: Review King (Aug 25, 2008 10:32PM)
A great quote form one of my magic heroes:

"Ben...what a beautiful thing you've created here. The moment that card breaks free of gravity in the spec's hand is quite the joyous event. I can tell that an unbelievable amount of unyielding intent went into developing this baby."
-- Paul Harris
Message: Posted by: Review King (Aug 30, 2008 05:03PM)
Just checked the Enlightenment and see that Ben just updated it:

http://www.wowbound.com/blog.html
Message: Posted by: ahzhe (Sep 13, 2008 09:53PM)
May I know why CID is cheaper than the original enlightenment
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Sep 13, 2008 10:16PM)
Hi ahzhe,

It's a little cheaper because it does not come with a typeset, liquid-laminated, perfect-bound, 100 page book of instructions. That accounts for the $10 price difference. Of course, I could have been greedy, but that's not my style!

Cheers

Ben
Message: Posted by: ahzhe (Sep 15, 2008 02:31AM)
Thanks
may I know the pro & con of the CID and original enlightenment?
Message: Posted by: Review King (Sep 15, 2008 04:37AM)
[quote]
On 2008-09-15 03:31, ahzhe wrote:
Thanks
may I know the pro & con of the CID and original enlightenment?
[/quote]

The original you have to make up the deck. It isn't hard and if you're good at things like that, have at it.

The CID is a work of art. It looks prefect, feels perfect, etc.
Message: Posted by: Review King (Sep 15, 2008 10:43PM)
Check out this Youtube clip. It's Enlightenment in their hands. TOO COOL!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LctHtRtPHvg
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Sep 16, 2008 05:15AM)
Magicgeek did a great job with that video demo. It clearly demonstrates that you can perform this in a spectator's hand. Notice how he carefully, yet casually, controlled every moment. The spectator's reaction was REAL. They really DO not care about the deck after the levitation. All attention is on their freely selected card.

Cheers

Ben
Message: Posted by: ahzhe (Sep 17, 2008 12:50PM)
If I purchase enlightenment CID, can I take the core gimmick out and perform floating bill or anything else as I do not want to perform only floating card effect with such a powerful device
Message: Posted by: Review King (Sep 17, 2008 04:00PM)
[quote]
On 2008-09-17 13:50, ahzhe wrote:
If I purchase enlightenment CID, can I take the core gimmick out and perform floating bill or anything else as I do not want to perform only floating card effect with such a powerful device
[/quote]

The Enlightenment Custom Installed Deck has the core gimmick set into the deck. It's perfectly aligned for maximum impact. If you want to do more, you'd need the Development Kit.

To be sure you order exactly what you're looking for, I think it's best to email Ben Harris and he can guide you on what you'll need for your specific performing needs: ben@wowbound.com
Message: Posted by: ahzhe (Sep 18, 2008 09:03PM)
Now the development kits is up in murphy's already
I am confused
is that development kits comes with the enlightenment gimmick?
do I have to buy the enlightenment gimmick together with the development kits?
Message: Posted by: Review King (Sep 18, 2008 09:07PM)
[quote]
On 2008-09-18 22:03, ahzhe wrote:
Now the development kits is up in murphy's already
I am confused
is that development kits comes with the enlightenment gimmick?
do I have to buy the enlightenment gimmick together with the development kits?
[/quote]

E-mail Ben and he'll be glad to help: ben@wowbound.com
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Sep 18, 2008 11:16PM)
Hi Ahzhe,

Firstly, you need to decide what you want to do with Enlightenment.

The gimmick is a small unit that reacts to a nearby magnet to create lift.
If you want to use this in a variety of ways (ie: installed in a deck for a self-contained card levitation OR as a stand alone gimmick that you can load under a dollar bill) then you need the ENLIGHTENMENT BOXED SET. This contains the stand-alone gimmick and a book detailing the deck installation and the STAND-ALONE application.


However, if you only want to use the Card Levitation, then just get the CID. This is expertly installed for you in a deck of Blue Bikes. The cards are factory cut, and the gimmick modified for THIS USE ONLY. You cannot remove the gimmck for any other apps.

The DKIT is a separate kettle of fish. It comes with UNASSEMBLED bits and pieces and a book of ideas allowing you to explore and INVENT your own applications. The DKIT explores APPLICATIONS OTHER THAN THOSE DESCRIBED in the Boxed Set or the CID.

Hope this helps.

Oh, by the way. The blog is updated with David Regal's review from Genii and a slight extension of our PRE-PUBLICATION OFFER (due to us being a week late in releasing the DKIT). Hurry only about 25 or so units left for this special offer.

We have also made Chris Ballinger's cool video demo our default clip. It clearly shows the effect being performed in the spectator's own hand with a lovely reaction.

http://www.wowbound.com/blog.html

Cheers

Ben
Message: Posted by: ahzhe (Sep 18, 2008 11:52PM)
Thank you very much for your kindly reply
I have decided to buy the enlightenment boxed set + development kit + paradigm shifter
good job
Message: Posted by: Review King (Sep 30, 2008 08:01AM)
DAVID REGAL'S GENII September 2008 issue REVIEW:

"Here, the subject matter is a levitating card, not a floating business card on an invisible thread that spins around the body like a whirligig, but the mysterious rising of a playing card on a surface, rising about an inch, then descending, at which point the card is handed out for examination.

Mr. Harris openly states that the purchaser needs a PK Magnet in order to make his gizmo work (he sells one he calls The Paradigm Shifter for $35) so I’m not speaking out of school here, and that gizmo is an achievement. The “Limited Edition Boxed Set” that one purchases for $80 is a tight little graphically ornate package, about 4” x 6” which contains a gimmick that looks like a product of Silicon Valley. There’s also a little 100-page book and a quick start manual.

The gimmick can be used stand-alone, or incorporated into such things as a deck of cards. I took the time to make up a gimmicked deck, the work of an evening for a klutz like me, and it turned out fine. I made cards float about 100 times that first night. My wife was so proud.

To answer the questions that also arise, no, the card is not held suspended in a perfect “sweet spot” of magnetic forces, allowing anyone to look under the floating card. The trick is done with spectators basically looking down at the deck, but the angles are pretty darned good, and as the card rises the hands make soft motions near, over, or around the deck. Both hands need not move, the extended forefinger of one hand can seem to provide the motive force.

The rise itself is gentle and lovely—the gimmick requires a bit of practice, but once it is understood it is reliable as a rock.

A benefit of the gimmick is the fact that it can be incorporated into a block of cards, leaving the majority of the deck free for shuffling or other card effects.

The Ben Harris stealth gizmo (did he consider that name?) is always ready to go, and it’s well-camouflaged. Indeed, the audience stares at what becomes the floating card’s platform without knowing it.

The application Mr. Harris has developed is exciting and refreshing, and if one does not wish to do the arts and crafts thing, he will sell you custom-crafted “Enlightenment” decks, with an even thinner gimmicked portion of cards, for $69.95, ten bucks less than the boxed set, but no instructions are included. I’ve seen the custom decks (CID), and they are beautifully rendered. These decks should be reaching dealers by the time you read this review, but if your local store does not carry them you can order from Mr. Harris directly at http://www.wowbound.com.

Considerations: This is not a trick for every occasion—it is a trick for the right occasions."
Message: Posted by: Douglas Lippert (Oct 1, 2008 10:21AM)
Mmhm, that was a good review by the great David Regal and like he says it is best to pull this one out on the right occasions.

How To Achieve Enlightenment in 5 er, 6 steps.
*little bit of cheese and crackers
*some bubbly
*Barry Manilow CD
*dimmed lighting to best hide the gimmick
*get into some more comfortable clothing to best conceal that huge magnet in your pants---that is strapped to your leg
*make sure movements are slow-n-smooth till you reach the moment of "enlightenment"
Message: Posted by: Tim Jahn (Oct 2, 2008 11:20AM)
[quote]
On 2008-10-01 11:21, DVLKCC wrote:
Mmhm, that was a good review by the great David Regal and like he says it is best to pull this one out on the right occasions.

How To Achieve Enlightenment in 5 er, 6 steps.
*little bit of cheese and crackers
*some bubbly
*Barry Manilow CD
*dimmed lighting to best hide the gimmick
*get into some more comfortable clothing to best conceal that huge magnet in your pants---that is strapped to your leg
*make sure movements are slow-n-smooth till you reach the moment of "enlightenment"
[/quote]

It rubs the lotion on its skin.
Message: Posted by: ahzhe (Oct 3, 2008 10:55PM)
In the demo video of the enlightenment

1.after the card rest on the top of the deck, the floated card as well as the 2nd and 3rd card can be handed out and show that they are normal

2.the card is floating above a book, and there is nothing in between the book and the card

are these really possible?
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Oct 4, 2008 05:29PM)
Hi Ahzhe,

Yes, all these are possible. A packet turnover can achieve the former, and the gimmick is built into the book cover (as described in the DKIT) for the latter.

Cheers

Ben
Message: Posted by: ahzhe (Oct 4, 2008 11:24PM)
But you show them right after the top card stop floating, without any secret move
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Oct 5, 2008 02:23AM)
The secret move is a card sleight. I guess it's done rather well. LOL.
It's a block push-off.

Cheers

Ben
Message: Posted by: Review King (Oct 10, 2008 06:21PM)
I just received the Enlightenment Development Kit ( know as the DKIT ). It comes with the book "FURTHER ENLIGHTENMENT". The book is loaded with ideas using pens, business cards, old photographs ( some spooky stuff that is perfect for Halloween ). If you have Enlightenment and are using it, then you'll want this.

The kit also comes 2 X Micro Magnets, 2 X Internal Enlightenment Gimmicks and a Spacer to come up with new ideas ( or uses ones from the book ) using objects other than playing cards.

The DKIT it is designed for those already familiar with Enlightenment ( you have one of the custom decks or the original effect and built your own ). Essentially, It's for those love the Enlightenment concept and want to further explore what it's capable of doing.

Here's the ad in case I wasn't clear:

Enlightenment Development Kit
by Ben Harris

50+ additional ideas, effects, and applications with the amazing Enlightenment Concept

You won't believe the ideas expounded in this 100 PAGE BOOK: "FURTHER ENLIGHTENMENT"—Tips on getting the best from the Floating Card Application, plus dozens of OTHER WAYS to put the principle to use. Lots of practical real world applications to build— using photos, boxes, business cards, note pads and more. Guest contributors include Marc Spelmann and Ken Krenzel.

Along with the book you are supplied with 2 X Micro Magnets, 2 X Internal Enlightenment Gimmicks and a Spacer. Use these to assemble and explore many of the ideas detailed, and—to invent and make your own Enlightenment effects!
Message: Posted by: marco1 (Oct 16, 2008 10:02AM)
[quote]
On 2008-06-18 08:36, Ben Harris wrote:
Hi Marco,

Let me send you a CID. Do I have your address details? With internet names, I get confused. I just have to much too do. I don't have the time to search the sales records (if I can avoid it). So, ensure I have your address and I'll get one off to you FREE by AIRMAIL.

Cheers mate


Ben,
I never received anything in the mail since you made me this offer.

Marco1

Ben
[/quote]
Message: Posted by: Review King (Jan 27, 2009 09:10PM)
"Enlightenment" has just been Magic Friday'd by the Café's own Jamie D. Grant
http://magicfriday.blogspot.com

or here:

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=294168&forum=175

and a GREAT review of Enlightenment at:

http://www.online-visions.com/reviews/0805enlightenment.html
Message: Posted by: staeske (Oct 29, 2009 01:47PM)
Why does it comes not complete? I mean, everybody talks about magnets in different power, polarizing magnets. I don't even got an engine to do that kind of stuff.
I want a CID realy bad but I just don't want to polarizing, buy weak or strong magnets and so on...