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Topic: Portable Sound System For Birthday Parties & Family Events
Message: Posted by: DominotheGreat (Aug 31, 2007 02:14PM)
What is the best possible sound system for birthday parties and family events. I mostly do birthday parties but also events. And I don't want to have two different systems and just looking for the best bang for my buck. Also, one that can handle music (maybe that MP3Tech) and a wireless mic (the countryman one). Is there such a system that has battery and ac adapter that not be an over kill for b-day parties but still handle a decent size family event (up to 200 people or something)?

I appreciate any tips as there are just so many options and it sometimes can get real confusing.

Thanks so much!

Domino
Message: Posted by: Chad C. (Aug 31, 2007 03:54PM)
You should go down to the for sale section and buy my Virtual Soundman Boombox PA. It lets you control your music, it comes with a headset mic, a click-feel remote, and icue built in and the treble and bass controls for your voice as well. It's the deluxe model. I am selling it for next to nothing compared to what I payed for it! I am no longer doing very many b-days and am getting a larger system, so go buy it!

You can also purchase a battery pack that runs it so you don't have to plug it in. You can even run it off of regular batteries at a b-day if you are just using it for music - but you will need the battery pack to run it if you use music and your mic at the same time.

Hope that helps!
Chad
Message: Posted by: Stevethomas (Aug 31, 2007 05:04PM)
That deal that Chad has cannot be beat for the quality and price! The iCue tabletop is the way to go for what you need! Everything is built into the unit itself.

Steve
Message: Posted by: kenscott (Aug 31, 2007 05:38PM)
Domino you can PM and I can tell you about my setup I use for birthdays. It uses an mp3tech. I love it! I everything setup in 10secs. with a mic.(countryman)
Ken
Message: Posted by: Dennis Michael (Aug 31, 2007 07:00PM)
How much do you want to spend is the real question.

Choosing both AC/DC narrows the choices down. The only one that fits that bill is the PASCO system, however, it is not my first choice.

I have and like the Mackie SRM150: AC only, 150 watts with a "bose" quality speaker for $300 would serve the size of any family event, however, no DC capability. Only the smaller lower wattage systems have DC capability (Yes, the old Fender Passport 150 had that capability, but the newer ones don't.)

As for wireless, there are a lot of these. I like the lower end price Audio-Technica units which run about $600 for both receiver, Transmitter with tiny head set.

Check out the sticky post on sound systems:
http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=208157&forum=11&0

Read up on the various topics and learn about them before spending quite a lot of money.

On the low end the Roland CM30 will handle any birthday party annd fit nicely in a Lefler type table. Look for deals with wireless systems I got one for half price here on the Café, and I bought another $300 wireless Audio-Technica system at the KIDabra auction for $7.00. What a buy! I also got a portable $623 Anchor Mini Vox with wireless for $50.00. So rushing to buy may not be the best. Study about them and learn what you want.

I had a choice of iCue or MP3 Tech, I chose the MP3 Tech. ($900 plus $400 for the remote display)

Yes, I have several thousand invested in numberous sound systems. I have the below systems:

1. Fender Passport 150 Plus CD (New $699 System) 150 watts
2. Fender Passport 250 ($699 older system) 250 watts
3. Mackie SRM150 (New $299 Single Speaker System) 150 watts
4. Roland CM30 Cube (New $170 Single Speaker System) 30 watts
5. Anchor Portable MinVox (A $625 Portable Speaker system) 30 watts
6. Wireless Wizardtry MP3 Tech
7. Audio-Technina Wireless Headset Transmitter and Receiver
8. Audio-Technina Lapel Microphone Transmitter and Receiver
9. Two GE Lapel Transmitter and Receivers
and others
Message: Posted by: DominotheGreat (Aug 31, 2007 09:38PM)
Thanks, everyone for your input so far. I appreciate everyone sharing their ideas/tips on this.
Message: Posted by: TheAmbitiousCard (Sep 1, 2007 12:12AM)
I use a battery powered Crate Taxi for small kids shows with my Icue2 and ipod.
Message: Posted by: Bryan Gilles (Sep 1, 2007 03:43AM)
The Virtual Soundman Tabletop PA System should be perfect for what you are going for as it is geared for smaller venues. It packs a lot of sound in its small enclosure and you can't go wrong with the built-in smart chip (or MiCue). You really don't need to worry about purchasing the LED screen but it is a nice thing to have.

VSM has made these affordable and as close to a "turn-key" operation as you can get. I knew how to run mine within the first 10 mins of playing with it.... and I'm a natural blonde!!!

-Bryan
Message: Posted by: Stevethomas (Sep 1, 2007 04:57AM)
Domino...as I told ya in the PM..hook up with Chad! Can you say "BARGAIN"?

Steve
Message: Posted by: Dennis Michael (Sep 1, 2007 05:25AM)
The only issue I have with the "Table Top" PA System is based on the original question "still handle a decent size family event (up to 200 people or something)?"

I don't have this table top PA system so I can't say it will or will not handle a decent size family event of 200 persons.

Click here to read about Chad's System for Sale:
http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=223220&forum=79&4
Message: Posted by: Regan (Sep 1, 2007 07:47AM)
Domino, You might want to consider the Carvin Stagemate. It is a nice system for small to medium sized shows. An extra speaker is optional. As with about all Carvin gear, it's a great value for the price.

Regan
Message: Posted by: TheAmbitiousCard (Sep 1, 2007 11:20AM)
I just bought the extra speaker for my Carvin setup. My wife used the 2 speakers and an ipod and a wireless mic in a park for an event and there was more than enough power to reach the 300 people. It can run off battery for 3-4 hours, great sound, and quick to set up. you can also add a second battery to double the battery life.


For a kid's party I would use something smaller like the Crate Taxi I mentioned above. Only 15W, small, light weight, and nice sound. I also use this when I perform outdoors at the Farmer's Market in my town. It's not quite as powerful as I'd like for that event but it does the job.

I use the same microphone for all mic'd shows which is the provider series
http://www.providerseries.com which plugs into my audiotechnica receiver/transmitter.

I can run everything off battery. Even the mic.
Message: Posted by: kenscott (Sep 1, 2007 11:49AM)
I use a paso that is perfect for smaller shows it is put inside a lefler cube table and my MP3tech is velcroed inside the box. All I simply do is open the box plug one plug into the wall and put my mic on and I am set. In some cases I use the battery on the paso and the mp4tech can run off batteries as well.

Really easy sound great. And of course I am using the resmotes that can be hidden in your hand (they are small).

Ken
Message: Posted by: Chad C. (Sep 1, 2007 12:41PM)
Ken, do you keep your paso in the table while performing? I could do that with my florida pa and save even more time setting up...
Message: Posted by: kenscott (Sep 1, 2007 01:43PM)
Yes everything is mounted inside the table.
ken
Message: Posted by: Dennis Michael (Sep 2, 2007 07:05AM)
Ken do you get feedback with your system? I saw it at KIDabra, and was wondering how you got around this problem. Yes, it would work great with the MP3 Tech, but how about the wireless microphone? I know you use the Countryman, is it the mic.?

When I used the Flordia System anytime I went in front of the speaker I got feedback.
Message: Posted by: kenscott (Sep 2, 2007 12:09PM)
No feed back . I bought the correct cord to plug into the pack that would fit my contryman mic.

Ken
Message: Posted by: DominotheGreat (Sep 3, 2007 10:20AM)
Ken,

Could you tell me what cord you purchases and where to plug into the pack that fit your countryman mic (as I thinking of getting this when I get a sound system? As you never got any feedback with this cord.

Thanks so much!

Domino
Message: Posted by: kenscott (Sep 3, 2007 11:05AM)
Contact joe lefler he sells them. http://www.wearefun.com

but is this for the paso??

Ken
Message: Posted by: DominotheGreat (Sep 3, 2007 11:08AM)
Ken,

Ok Thanks. So just ask joe for a cord that won't have feedback that is made for the countryman and for whatever sound system I go with? I think I'm narrowing it down to a paso or the Mepro that joe had at kidabra. What model (number) of the paso do you have?

Thanks once again and everyone else for all of their help and suggestion on this.

Domino
Message: Posted by: kenscott (Sep 3, 2007 11:14AM)
I cannot speak on the mepro only the paso. he cord that I have fits the countryman an it fits the pack for the paso unit. I am sure JOe can help you out with any questions you might have about these systems.

Ken
Message: Posted by: Stevethomas (Sep 3, 2007 11:18AM)
The particular cord has nothing to do with whether or not there's active feedback with any system. It has to do with the microphone, volume, speaker placement and staging (your position during performance with relation to the speaker and the direction of the sound).

Steve
Message: Posted by: DominotheGreat (Sep 3, 2007 11:20AM)
Ken,

I appreciate all you tips and help on this Ken. What model of the Paso do you use (WPCS50, WPSS100/MW165U).

I certainly talk to joe about the cords. As this is what it looks like so far:

- soundsystem
- MP3 Tech
- Country Man Mic
- Mabye that joe lefter cube table to keep everything in

Thanks again!

Domino
Message: Posted by: DominotheGreat (Sep 3, 2007 11:22AM)
Steve,

Ok is its a good idea to put the speaker where you won't walk in front of it, so you wont' get feedback (or reduce it). As I new to this and I would think that you don't want to walk in front of the speaker while on a mic wireless or not, right.

Thanks Steve!

Domino
Message: Posted by: kenscott (Sep 3, 2007 12:42PM)
WPCS50 is the one that I am using. actaully with the countryman it does not pickup feedback like a lot of mics do, sure if you put your head directly in front of the speaker it will get feedback. Yes position the speaker where it wil not pick this up. Steve knows as well as I this is common sense. As are as the cord no it has nothing to do with the feedback but it you have to have the proper cord to make this all work.

ken

Ken
Message: Posted by: Stevethomas (Sep 3, 2007 12:46PM)
Feedback is caused by the sound that's emanating from the speaker being picked up by the microphone, fed back into the amplification system and re-emanated from the speaker, only to be picked by by the microphone again and fed back into the amp...and on and on and on..all at the speed of sound.

Domino, have you considered the iCue2 (iCue Squared)? system instead of the MP3 Tech? I used a Wireless Wizardry ShowTech for 15 years, and switched to the iCue2 about a year ago...and I could not be happier! Compare before you spend. I tested out both systems (in person, in shows, yes) and some other ones (the "Performer" system, too)...and decided after making all the comparisons (options, prices and ease of use/setup) on the iCue2 from Virtual Soundman (www.virtualsoundman.com)...you might make the same decision after spending 9 months comparing.

Steve
Message: Posted by: DominotheGreat (Sep 3, 2007 01:48PM)
Steve,

yea its a toss up between the mp3Tech and icue2. As I like how the mp3 tech as the mp3 built in and that should help make it quicker or not have as many problems trying to talk to an Ipod or other devices as the Icue2 has to do. And I like that ken mentions that the remote is nice a small. But I don't have 9 months or any amount of time to try out both products and see which one fits me the best. And I definitely can't buy both and see which one is the best for me.

I appreciate your feedback though, Steve. And thanks again Ken as well!

Domino
Message: Posted by: kenscott (Sep 3, 2007 02:02PM)
Steve makes great points and he is one that loves the icue. However I don't think he used the mp3tech as I think he was a showtech user. The showtech and the mp3tech are to totally different systems. In fact I don't think kerry is making the showtech anymore as the MP3 is much easier to use and does what the mp3 did for the most part. As far as set up the MP3 cannot be easier to set up.

The ICUE is great and it is working great for a lot of performers. However it simply does not have the smaller remotes that mp3 provides. The smaller remotes that I am able to conceal in my hand is what sells me on the MP3 tech. I have played with the icue that a friend uses and I simply could not get used to what it did. The remote was confusing to me as you had to hold it down for a certain bit for it to do certain things. On the other hand my friend used mine and he COULD not get used to mine. So bottom line find what works for you there is plenty of info on both units. For me Kerry Pollacks provides excellent costumer service. I had a friend at kidabra conf who wanted everything I had. however she was leaving to go home over seas and she needed the unit sent to me before she left. Kerry over nighted the MP3 to me and he picked up all shipping charges. To top it off Kerry was performing at MAGIC LIVE and he still had time to get the package sent out to me. Costumer service goes along way.

Ken
Message: Posted by: Stevethomas (Sep 3, 2007 04:11PM)
I did "test drive" an MP3 Tech. I also used the "Performer" system, and the iCue2 system. Sent back the other two and kept the iCue2. I don't palm the remote or use it lying on the table as some people do. I leave it in my pocket (after removing the belt clip) and operate it through my pants. One light touch is all it takes. Also, the large display is great, as is the "iPrompter" scrolling display. While it's not wireless as the MP3 Tech's is, but it IS smaller than the display, and easier to hide. The wireless display for the MP3 Tech is a little large to be inconspicuous, and has to be hidden inside a table or prop, can't be mounted to the side of an on-stage speaker (it's made to sit on on in a table, with the antenna extended).

Kelly Duro was at Magic Live, as well, as I remember. The new, more powerful (audio output-wise) iCue2 TTPA was on display, and, although it's not available for another few weeks, people ordered them.

You'll find the one that's right for you.

Steve
Message: Posted by: kenscott (Sep 3, 2007 04:20PM)
Actaully my wirelss display simply stays in the floor just stage right. I never had anyone say anything about it. So no I don't hide it.

Ken
Message: Posted by: Stevethomas (Sep 3, 2007 05:03PM)
I've read that some people put it into their tables (as in Lefler or similar) for use. I mount the iCue2 (on top of it) and the iPrompter (under it) on the "pole mount" on the speaker stand that holds my Anchor "Explorer-Pro". Kelly even shows you how to install a piggybacked power source into the Anchor speaker/amp. Then, for power, you plug a wire into your speaker, and that will power the iCue2. Of course, using the battery pack with make that necessity null and void.

Steve
Message: Posted by: devlinn (Sep 4, 2007 08:57PM)
Choice is Good.
To each his own.
Message: Posted by: joemystic (Jan 23, 2009 08:17PM)
Sorry I can't agree with Steve. The older SoundBox is a users nightmare. It is pieces of this and that put together and the wireless mic (Nady) is the lowest quality possible. It cuts in and out and does not have much volume. I have one and won't sell it because don't want someone to be mad at me for pawning off my bad purchase.
Message: Posted by: Anverdi-museum (Feb 23, 2009 05:03PM)
For Small venues such as birthdays or small platform you would only need 10 - 15 watts and want to keep it reasonable. I suggest searching Ebay or your local music store for a battery operate Pig Nose amp. or a small Crate amp.

These are reasonable ( around $100 ) and will fit the bill for what you need. A simple plug in microphone with a quarter inch jack would work great for this, nothing fancy here. Also check Ebay or Radio Shack. When you move up to larger shows with higher pay I would invest in something more advanced ( also more expensive ) but for now, this is what you need.

Chuck C.

http://www.freewebs.com/caputocollection/