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Topic: Pearl Poodle history ...
Message: Posted by: JamesTong (Sep 20, 2007 04:29AM)
Would appreciate a bit of history on the Pearl Poodle effect.

This effect looks like an adaptation of the balloon twisted poodle.

Is the Pearl Poodle effect a fairly recent one? Who is the originator? Is this a public domain effect? Is there any published work on this effect?

Thanks.
Message: Posted by: MichaelKent (Sep 22, 2007 06:48AM)
James,

I believe Bob Knigge takes credit for this. According to Carroll Baker's lecture notes where he describes the effect, Knigge had this in a pamphlet and lecture notes in 1996.

MK
Message: Posted by: JamesTong (Sep 22, 2007 01:45PM)
Thanks, Michael.
Message: Posted by: MagiClyde (Sep 22, 2007 06:33PM)
I know Carroll Baker, if it's the same one that Michael Kent mentions. I'll ask him for you if you want.

Meanwhile, you can go to Carroll's website at http://www.carrollbaker.net for additional contact information.
Message: Posted by: JamesTong (Sep 23, 2007 01:15PM)
Would appreciate if you could do that for me, clynim. Thanks for the links too.
Message: Posted by: carrollbaker (Sep 24, 2007 06:50PM)
I can tell you that Bob Knigge did indeed teach me the Pearl poodle and is based on the balloon dog using 16-18 twists. Bob may have further details for you. It has been in print and in stores for retail but I don't think that Bob was given credit.

Any questions, PM me. and Yes, Clyde...it's me... :)

Posted: Sep 24, 2007 7:52pm
By the way, The poodle was in either a Genii or Magic magazine with several great ideas.

CB
Message: Posted by: JamesTong (Sep 25, 2007 05:33AM)
Just sent a PM to you, Carroll.
Message: Posted by: Ace of Spades (Sep 26, 2007 05:03PM)
Bob is a member of our local IBM ring and it is a real pleasure to watch him work. In addition to the poodle he can "twist" other animals from the pearls too.
Message: Posted by: Eric Rose (Oct 9, 2007 03:53PM)
The Knigge booklet is called "Mini Pearl" and was published in 1996. Considering that the address for Knigge given in the very short pamphet is Tennessee, it's probably safe to assume the name is a play on the name of Grand Old Opry comedienne Minnie Pearl.
Message: Posted by: tedski (Nov 8, 2007 09:20PM)
You might also want to check out Norman Beck's lecture notes. He gives credit to the originator. Beck has a real nice routine using equivoque allowing you to magically produce the pearls and go into the poodle.
Message: Posted by: Moxahalla (Nov 12, 2007 05:52PM)
Thought I'd toss in my idea with the Poodles - and it never fails to amaze:

I visibly show a length of FLASH STRING (same 5 1/2" length as the string of pearls) Of course, the pearls are concealed within same hand.

I LIGHT the string, and at same time....I let the string-of-pearls fall. The effect is that PEARLS magically APPEARED on the string...in a flash of fire! (think about that - the spectators believe it to be the SAME string, and why not?)

I could end right THERE...and the audience would be amazed.

I proceed with the poodle-twisting, and present the poodle to the lady in the crowd.

When I'm feeling naughty--I'll finger-palm a RAISIN next to the poodle, and say: "Oops, Oh dear, he made a mess!" :)
Message: Posted by: Andrew H. (Nov 16, 2007 06:39PM)
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On 2007-10-09 16:53, Eric Rose wrote:
The Knigge booklet is called "Mini Pearl" and was published in 1996. Considering that the address for Knigge given in the very short pamphet is Tennessee, it's probably safe to assume the name is a play on the name of Grand Old Opry comedienne Minnie Pearl.
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Bob still uses this patter. We were talking about this effect one day and He told me that it was 1983 when he first started making the poodles. So I pretty sure bob was the creater. If you find anything in print before 83 plaease let me know.
Message: Posted by: magicbob116 (Dec 19, 2007 07:30PM)
Check out Larry Davidson's DVD "Scripted Insanity." He has a great routine using "Pearl the Poodle" on Volume 2. All of the effects on both volumes are real winners, by the way.
Message: Posted by: MerlH (Dec 30, 2007 06:50AM)
Find a good scrapbook store. There is a recorder about 1 1/2x 1 1/2 by 1/4" thick. It will record around 10 seconds. I have it wrapped as a present. When I make a poodle I set it on the package and hit the button. The poodle says, arf,arf, have a great holiday, arf, arf, arf. I change it for whatever the occasion is, cruise, birthday, Halloween etc. The women then takes the poodle. If they start to take the present, I say, "no, that is just her platform so you can hear her easier. MOST people think I am a ventriloquist.

Merl
Message: Posted by: erichall (Jan 2, 2008 11:49PM)
Merl-

Good to find you on the Café. Seems like I just saw this little poodle last year-
That little thing is like the sponge bunnies- I'm sure people go crazy for it!

E
Message: Posted by: Scott Compton (Feb 26, 2008 09:00AM)
Bob Knigge did in fact create this. As well as a member of Ring 355 in Bristol, he is also a member of our ring in Knoxville. He has created several amazing effects. Tom Vorjohan and Daniel Herron also included this in their balloon twisting lecture notes a few years ago(with permission from, and credited to, Bob). Bob had a replacement heart and is getting better every day. I am sure that I will see him at the Winter Carnival of Magic in Pigeon Forge next month.
Message: Posted by: deadcatbounce (Aug 28, 2008 04:18PM)
I have this on the DVD back home. Can anyone help me with the assembly/twists? I'm away from home right now, but I have got a load of beads and elastic thread and I am dying to give it a go.

I'll be back home on Monday, so this inquiry is dead after that.

Perhaps you could PM me?

Thanks!

DCB
Message: Posted by: JamesTong (Sep 1, 2008 03:19AM)
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On 2007-12-30 07:50, MerlH wrote:
Find a good scrapbook store. There is a recorder about 1 1/2x 1 1/2 by 1/4" thick. It will record around 10 seconds. I have it wrapped as a present. When I make a poodle I set it on the package and hit the button. The poodle says, arf,arf, have a great holiday, arf, arf, arf. I change it for whatever the occasion is, cruise, birthday, Halloween etc. The women then takes the poodle. If they start to take the present, I say, "no, that is just her platform so you can hear her easier. MOST people think I am a ventriloquist.

Merl

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Thanks for sharing, Merle. Having the poodle make some noise is an excellent and entertaining idea.
Message: Posted by: Moxahalla (Sep 11, 2008 12:55PM)
Thanks for sharing, Merle. Having the poodle make some noise is an excellent and entertaining idea.
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...then you might like:

Tenyo's "MYSTERY POODLE" ---with "barking" sound.

ALSO, dealer Dick Barry has offered his "Poodle Pearls" with a "barking" sound-effect device.
Message: Posted by: dcjames (Nov 9, 2008 11:11AM)
Having been out of magic for some time now, and just recently returning to the fold, I had no idea that Bob Knigge wasn't well. I hope he is getting better. He's really a nice guy.

I had the pleasure of having Bob as a lecturer when I was the President of the local S.A.M Assembly in Charlotte, NC. (This was in the late 90's.) We had met at the Winter Carnival of Magic and his 'Minnie Pearl' is something I still use.

If I am not mistaken, following the lecture we went to dinner and he commented that this effect was the result of his having been at Mardi Gras and playing with the beads there...

Moxahalla - Great idea with the flash string!
Message: Posted by: magicelam (Nov 20, 2008 08:52PM)
I think I was one of the lucky few here in TN to have taken lessons from Bob. I too can vouch for the 1983 story above. He gave me a whole roll of pearls, and I used this for the five years I worked restaurants.
Message: Posted by: barts185 (Aug 23, 2012 10:36AM)
Does anyone know where I can find the pearls to make the poodle? I thought it would be easy, but I've tried craft stores, which basically say to come back around Christmas time, but looking for them sooner. I've also tried bead shops and ebay, none of which seem to have ones which will interlock. The only online place which looks like they sell them hasn't answered their phone or responded to an email in several days, so reluctant to place an order there.
Message: Posted by: Michael Baker (Aug 23, 2012 11:38AM)
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On 2012-08-23 11:36, barts185 wrote:
Does anyone know where I can find the pearls to make the poodle? I thought it would be easy, but I've tried craft stores, which basically say to come back around Christmas time, but looking for them sooner. I've also tried bead shops and ebay, none of which seem to have ones which will interlock. The only online place which looks like they sell them hasn't answered their phone or responded to an email in several days, so reluctant to place an order there.
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Search for bead garland and also for Mardi Gras beads. Check places locally like Hobby Lobby, Michael's, JoAnne's, Dollar Tree, and Wal Mart. You never know what they might have on the shelf. Don't ask the minimum wage help if they carry it. Their interests are not as deep as yours. Walk around and look. Sometimes there are beads available for holidays other than Christmas... St. Patrick's Day, etc.
Message: Posted by: barts185 (Aug 24, 2012 11:02AM)
Michael,

Thanks for the suggestions.

I had already been to several craft stores (including two different Michael's), and thought this would be an easy find, but struck out. And, as you said (and I appreciate the tip), I looked around myself as well as asking the help. I had actually ordered some from a bead specialist on Ebay, but they didn't work - spaced too far apart (the store was very nice, took the beads back and gave me a full refund). Thanks to finding another thread here in the Café (is it me, or does the search engine in the Café leave something to be desired?) , I just found an online place called mardigrasbeadconnection and spoke to a nice lady who thinks that what she has should work, is sending me some.
Message: Posted by: Michael Baker (Aug 24, 2012 01:17PM)
Good. If it works for you, please tip the source here. It may benefit others.
Message: Posted by: Julie (Aug 24, 2012 04:25PM)
We found a good source for the correct "pearls" to be the places that sell decorations for weddings...

Julie
Message: Posted by: barts185 (Aug 25, 2012 09:43AM)
Once I get the beads, I'll post letting people know if they work or not.

I really can't believe the trouble I'm having with what I THOUGHT would be some simple, readily available things.
Message: Posted by: barts185 (Aug 27, 2012 09:03PM)
I got the beads in today and they work very nicely.

The beads I got were from:

http://mardigrasbeadconnection.com/Christmas.html

Second set on the top, labeled Christmas Throws. They'll do an assortment - it's not only red, white, and green.

I'll attach a picture after I save it as a smaller size (first attempt failed).
Message: Posted by: barts185 (Aug 27, 2012 10:23PM)
I think this should work.

It uses 16 beads. I've seen it done with 15, leaving the extra one off the tail.
Message: Posted by: Carnac (Jan 28, 2013 01:06PM)
Merlh: Love the barking dog idea. I'll use that. I have a small recorder that came with a now discontinued trick called Polly Does a Card Trick. Folks can also check with Bob Little from Guarenteed Magic, in Hatoboro, PA. (215) 672-3344. He sells several silver dollar size recorders with the prerecorded animal sounds. Dog,cat,duck,etc. (can't remember exactly which ones) I use the duck recorder in my Card Duck routine. Great fun.