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Topic: If you wanna learn how to street perform
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Oct 3, 2007 10:59AM)
If you're a beginner and are lacking resources I have set up a blog that teaches how to be a sidewalk performer if any bodies interested.

jimmytalksalot.blogspot.com
Message: Posted by: Mitch Schneiter (Oct 3, 2007 12:00PM)
Nice site and very good information. Thank you for making it available.
Message: Posted by: Bill Nuvo (Oct 3, 2007 02:21PM)
Great info. Like the video with the flip stick work. Nice.
Message: Posted by: johnnymystic (Oct 3, 2007 02:31PM)
Added to favorites, thanks Jimmy!
Message: Posted by: ed rhodes (Oct 3, 2007 10:49PM)
[quote]
On 2007-10-03 11:59, jimmy talksalot wrote:
If you're a beginner and are lacking resources I have set up a blog that teaches how to be a sidewalk performer if any bodies interested.

jimmytalksalot.blogspot.com
[/quote]

Thanks Jimmy. Put that in my list of faves and will check it out when I have more time.
Message: Posted by: johnnymystic (Oct 3, 2007 10:53PM)
Mandrake, you should've taken the time immediatly to read it all...TWICE.

Hopefully you saved it to favorites and are reading it all avidly RIGHT NOW THIS VERY SECOND!!!

NOT later...when you have more time.
Message: Posted by: ed rhodes (Oct 4, 2007 04:50AM)
Yeah, thanks. I'll work on that.
Message: Posted by: Sammy the Kid (Oct 4, 2007 11:01AM)
I have been street entertaining for a couple years now (only in small town Southern Illinois but I can still draw a tipping crowd) and there's a lot there that I'm learning from. Jimmy, where were you when I was learning the hard way? You could have saved me a LOT of trial and even more error by blogging sooner. Great info, brother!

Sammy the Kid
Message: Posted by: hou_dini (Oct 4, 2007 05:46PM)
Jimmy, excellent. Thanks. Sammy, I went to SIU-C many years ago. Where you located in S. Il?
Message: Posted by: Josh Peters (Oct 5, 2007 11:39AM)
Wow, this is great information. Thanks Jimmy, I love the videos.
Message: Posted by: fishwasher (Oct 5, 2007 02:12PM)
Thanks Jimmy...that is some good stuff
Message: Posted by: ldl1017 (Oct 5, 2007 05:55PM)
NIce job. Very helpful
Message: Posted by: Pete Legend (Oct 9, 2007 12:25PM)
Great Work!!
Message: Posted by: honus (Oct 17, 2007 10:47AM)
Jimmy, I'm sure there's a ton of great information on your site, but I have a very difficult time reading it. Your poor spelling, punctuation, capitalization, and grammar make it almost impossible for me to understand you.

Maybe I'm just getting old. (Okay, probably not "getting." :) )
Message: Posted by: BenHFarrar (Oct 17, 2007 11:29AM)
Jimmy's use of language is what makes the blog. No body wants to read something which is written like a textbook. Its up to jimmy how he writes his blog...and I think hes done a really good job.

If you don't get on with his writing style, then mabey is blog just isn't for you. No body else minds.
Message: Posted by: manal (Oct 17, 2007 12:25PM)
Actually..... it is a little difficult to read for reasons honus stated ,but it is well worth the effort as the blog is full of great info and advice, which in my opinion makes the blog valuable, not the idiosyncratic use of spelling,punctuation,capitalization and grammar.
Jimmy doesn't need defending ,he is very outspoken and his knowledge and experience and success speak for him......but thanks anyway Ben.
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Oct 17, 2007 07:15PM)
Honus,

it's my form of code for the initiate and I'm embarrassed to say it's also lazyness.

yes I'm more then poor spelling and grammar and I'm tryin to fix some of it but part of it is to agravate the uptight so they'll stay away from the knowledge because lord knows you don't wanna hafta indure some shallow hypersensitive uptight freak's idea of a good time when your watchin what he calls a show. uptight people, bad entertainers.

I would rather them just go out and fail completely and give up and go back to his real job were BORING is passable and tolerated for an hourly wage [as long as they can file good and got good grammar].

don't get me wrong I have a high regard for the civility, wisdom, and educated wit but not so far that it gets in the way of entertaining expression.

honus, please don't don't take this wrong and thanks for the criticism I think it's constructive but I would have prefered if you would have critiqued the content instead of fixating on something shallow.
Message: Posted by: manal (Oct 17, 2007 08:29PM)
See, I told ya :)
Message: Posted by: BAH1313 (Oct 17, 2007 11:57PM)
Yeah and the font is all wrong...


Seems kind of trivial compared to the info contained therein doesn't it Honus?

Jimmy, you write like a lot of us think. Keep it up man!!!

You're all pro!
Message: Posted by: ed rhodes (Oct 18, 2007 04:57AM)
I would suggest that if the presentation is poor enough, then what's being presented suffers no matter how good the information itself may be.

Having said that, and being aware that there are some gaffs on Jimmy's blog, I certainly didn't have any trouble reading or comprehending it.
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Oct 21, 2007 12:17PM)
Mandrake01,

point taken.
Message: Posted by: Dynamike (Oct 21, 2007 11:30PM)
You should make a selling DVD out of it.
Message: Posted by: Danny Hustle (Oct 21, 2007 11:41PM)
They said The Cellini book was awful too because of all the spelling errors. Of course, none of the guys that said it was crap were actually street performers.

If you are worried about spelling you might want to try another type of entertainment. Because trust me when I tell you, bad spelling is just the tip of the annoyance iceberg when it comes to street performing. If bad spelling bothers you, your first run in with a bucket drummer will have you homicidal.

Check out the table hoppers section. Table hoppers in general are excellent spellers, and never run into bucket drummers. They also dress better (for the most part) than street performers. They get all the hot chicks too!

Finally, Jimmy, brother, I've never had a problem understanding you. Love you man, and keep writing it down!

Best,

Dan-
Message: Posted by: RobertBloor (Oct 21, 2007 11:55PM)
Tabel hapers cant spel eyether.
Jimmy's stuff is real good. I enjoy reading it.

-Robrt
Message: Posted by: Wayne Whiting (Oct 22, 2007 05:41AM)
Bucket drummers are annoying, but yesterday afternoon I had an experience that topped a bucket drummer. A man was walking down the center of the mall singing "Jesus Loves You" and "Amazing Grace" at the top of his lungs. When his voice got tired, he played taps on his harmonica. He happened to walk by right when I had my first decent tip. The advice from this forum "to have something to say for every situation" crossed my mind, but nothing came to my lips. To make it worse, when he saw my crowd he just got louder and more disruptive. I thought, "well, he's just exercising his right to free speech just like you are."

Perhaps I should have run out and done a silent act to the tune of "Amazing Grace" like Jimmy would have done.
Message: Posted by: Danny Hustle (Oct 22, 2007 07:39AM)
Wayne,

In that situation the best, general purpose, comeback would to have been to look at him like he was a weird, and possibly dangerous, alien creature, and without breaking YOUR eyes away from him, stage whisper out of the corner of your mouth to your audience, 'DON'T MAKE EYE CONTACT! HE'S PROBABLY FROM (insert closest rival town here) and lost!."

That is a good one to have in your pocket for disruptions like that. When he hears your audience laughing at him he will move along....or flip out and physically attack you in a homicidal rage, either way, you win! Welcome to the street. :)

Best,

Dan-
Message: Posted by: Yellowcustard (Oct 22, 2007 11:10AM)
Hi Jimmy your latest post on your blog is great. I am at the moment finding my feet on the street and been thinking how I can take a show in a case or even better my pockets, so I can rock up early and as it get busy with street busker do bigger and better I can pop of shopping and then go back when it’s a bit quieter. These observations and comments have inspired me massively thank you.
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Oct 22, 2007 12:54PM)
Yellowcustard,

thanks.

what your looking to do is pretty much what I've been doin for awhile, but I would suggest you browse around my blog's older posts and pick and choose some titles you like. a lot of guys start at the first one and go from there.

the reason I'm saying this is because the blog is set up weird so you can't really see a table of contents and I'm not sure what to do about that yet.

when I was workin spain I had no bag I just wore my suit and when I needed money I would just stop walking on the sidewalk and bang out a show and then go on about my business.[of course that's europe not here we know how hard that is here]

here I like to care my dr.bag w/ a small sign and rope in it. I slap the sign on the out side w/velcro lay out my fat 15' rope and go to work. the bag is also good for caring water and mints and if I don't want all that stuff in my pockets I can throw it in there too.
Message: Posted by: marty.sasaki (Oct 22, 2007 01:29PM)
While I agree that the mis-spelling, lack of capitalization, and sometimes missing punctuation doesn't seem to have much, if any, of a negative effect on the presentation, I think it is a sign of just being lazy. Most of the time capitalization is easy, as is most punctuation, and with the add-ons one can get decent spell checking.

Nothing wrong with being lazy, or being lazy in certain ways, Thomas Edison claimed that being lazy was the key to his inventiveness, if he wasn't so lazy he wouldn't have become an inventor. But saying that the mistakes are part of the process is just denial. Just admit you are too lazy to get it right.

Having said all of this, I do think that the blog is a great resource. Thanks for spending the time and effort to post it, Things like this blog, and the Café have really increased my enjoyment of this art.
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Oct 22, 2007 03:55PM)
I wonder if they were suspicious of mark twain
Message: Posted by: fishwasher (Oct 22, 2007 04:30PM)
I read all the posts tonite, a lot to think about....and more importantly do
Message: Posted by: FunTimeAl (Oct 22, 2007 06:35PM)
I stopped doin' the cups and balls after watchin' Jimmy on YouTube and readin' his posts. It's not that I wanted to copy his style, it's just that I had never thought of the possibility of performing without a table.

It just hadn't occured to me.

I built a nice table, but it's great to have the option to work without it. I still get a hat load in, and I still use a close-up pad even during a half-circle show. I won't get into the details of that on this thread though.

All I wanna say is that Jimmy's posts have changed my way of thinkin' about my performance. He's a saint for offerin' all that to us. Thanks Jimmy.
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Oct 22, 2007 10:32PM)
Thanks chad,

I'm hoping that everyone can learn how to perform with out a table and expand our art.

I got the idea from cellini, he believed that we should move away from the table for a bunch of reasons I'll be writing about it later. it's something I'm proud of after being tied to a table for all those years it's liberating and openned up so many venues.

the table a lot of times is just a mini stage but if you can look at the ground as your new big table that impowers you, you're no longer limited to the edge of your table.

there has been a bunch of guys performing without tables a lot longer then me look at sonny holliday or eric evans or "toot" the students of cellini.
Message: Posted by: G.Gilbert (Oct 26, 2007 08:29AM)
Man!! I cant lie I just love reading this stuff.. and I was wrong for trying to get you to use spell check jimmy. I em SARRY, you big goof..

Posted: Oct 26, 2007 1:14pm
" "fake it till you make it" is different than believing you could be the best.

do you wanna settle for just makin it? "

ill carry that quote with me forever as it just applies to everything!
Message: Posted by: Mario Morris (Nov 5, 2007 11:17AM)
Great, great stuff I love it.
Mario
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Nov 16, 2007 12:16AM)
If your just starting and you wanna learn street performing you'll need to go to the oldest posts on my blog and start there.
Message: Posted by: johnnymystic (Nov 16, 2007 12:18AM)
I like my table and such but I do not allow it to be my anchor, nor is it my shield.

It can be a pain to hump around but an asset all the same.
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Nov 16, 2007 10:27AM)
What I miss about the table is the feeling it gives me. with my rope wrapped around on the ground it gives me that "i'm a professional in my office" feeling.
Message: Posted by: FunTimeAl (Nov 16, 2007 10:58AM)
Jimmy,

I request that you PM me if every you should be interested in a performance table.
I don't sell tables...but I do make them on occassion.
Message: Posted by: Joshua Barrett (Nov 16, 2007 11:09AM)
Iv seen one, you do a fantastic job chad!
Message: Posted by: BAH1313 (Nov 16, 2007 06:14PM)
HAHAHA, Hey jimmy I was once referred to as Les Nesman 'cause of my rope and table.

It's actually kind of true isn't it? That's the office...
Message: Posted by: johnnymystic (Nov 16, 2007 07:41PM)
I get lots of phone calls from crediters and telemarketers...everytime I answer their phone call I put on my best radio face and speak loudly with enthusiasm...

"This is WKRP in Cincinnati, you are caller number 100, you just won $10,000...how do you feel?"

Usually they hang up, but this one time I got a caller that totally freaked out and really thought they had won cash. I then kept asking if the caller was still there and acted as though I could not here thier replies of yes, I then hung up the phone.

Am I evil

yes I am

I am evil

I am mad
Message: Posted by: Miikka (Nov 20, 2007 02:03PM)
Hi, I just want to say I really like your blog and it has helped me alot. Keep up the good work!
Message: Posted by: AntonDreaming (Nov 20, 2007 02:25PM)
I think its funny that Jimmy was being critisied for his spelling, puncuation, ect (personaly a I'm not good at any of that stuff) and being called lazy. The blog is amazing and is the result of "YEARS OF HARD WORK". To nit pick and call it lazy because of small text errors is silly. He did go to the effort of putting the blog together.

Anyhow Jimmy you rock. I always here good things.

Anton
Message: Posted by: Danny Hustle (Nov 20, 2007 05:25PM)
I'm done with magic! What do you think of the NEW act!
http://www.scroogeyourself.com/?id=9560084189

Happy Holidays fellow turtle lovers.
Message: Posted by: Jim Wilder (Nov 20, 2007 07:06PM)
[quote]
On 2007-11-20 18:25, Danny Hustle wrote:
I'm done with magic! What do you think of the NEW act!
http://www.scroogeyourself.com/?id=9560084189

Happy Holidays fellow turtle lovers.
[/quote]
I like turtles.
I really like Danny Hustle's new act.

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Message: Posted by: johnnymystic (Nov 20, 2007 07:42PM)
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Thanks Jimmy!

It really helped alot, it stopped everybody dang near!
Message: Posted by: johnnymystic (Nov 20, 2007 09:37PM)
[quote]
On 2007-11-20 15:25, AntonDreaming wrote:
I think its funny that Jimmy was being critisied for his spelling, puncuation, ect (personaly a I'm not good at any of that stuff) and being called lazy. The blog is amazing and is the result of "YEARS OF HARD WORK". To nit pick and call it lazy because of small text errors is silly. He did go to the effort of putting the blog together.

Anyhow Jimmy you rock. I always here good things.

Anton
[/quote]

that's why the Magic Café has sorta a bad rap in some packs...too many arm chair magicians ya know.
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Nov 20, 2007 11:06PM)
Thanks fellahs hearin all that stuff makes me feel like a million bucks.

Posted: Nov 23, 2007 12:08pm
Recently I have been talking about a lot of the guys I met on the road but if your looking for instructional material you'll need to click on the little arrows of oct and the other months to get a list of topics I think I'm out growing this thing I'm gonna spit it in half. one for instruction and one as a sidewalk hall of fame.

Posted: Nov 27, 2007 11:12pm
Ok I split it I got the instructional on the original and I got a bio page thing for the fellas on this blog;

http://sidewalkperformerswhoswho.blogspot.com/

and here's the original with the instructional stuff;

http://jimmytalksalot.blogspot.com/

or you can go to my profile and look at the 2 blog choices to click on there. When I'm done I'll have 3 in all...one more for my lifes adventures on the road.
Message: Posted by: ed rhodes (Nov 30, 2007 02:26PM)
Thanks for making it a link. I am in fact going in a reading a little bit everyday. You talked me out of wearing my socerer's hat with the Mickey Mouse ears. Pity, the thing lights up when you hit the switch!

Thanks for a great site, Jimmy!

(Would it be wrong of me to suggest that this thing is valuable enough that it should be made a "sticky" so it will always be on the top of the list? Right under "Street Magic Vs. Busking" that is!)
Message: Posted by: marty.sasaki (Dec 5, 2007 10:33AM)
Hey Jimmy,

Can you change the text for your personality blog? My old, tired, eyes, have trouble reading the grey text on the black background. I have no problems at all with your original blog.

Really like the piece on "The Set Show". It's one thing that folks who don't perform never realize. Most performers have a tightly scripted, set show. Eugene Berger advices students attending the school in Las Vegas to try and see the same performers show, even two shows on the same day. They will be shocked to see that the shows are almost identical (a small amount of ad-libs occur, but it is entirely scripted.
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Dec 5, 2007 02:10PM)
Marty.sasaki, yeh it's been driving me crazy too I can't see the arrow and I don't know where I'm at...i'm gonna change it



I've started a personality or who's who blog. it's sort of a hall of fame thing.

if you know some one who belongs on there, I need a photo and a small bio.

if you send me these things I'll put em up.

right now I'm looking for a photo of jerry salazar in frisco, any body got one?
Message: Posted by: bryanlonden (Dec 6, 2007 01:08PM)
Thanks for this!
Message: Posted by: marty.sasaki (Dec 9, 2007 10:00AM)
Thanks for making the change, much easier for me to read. Wish I had the eyesight that I once had...
Message: Posted by: Brandmagic (Dec 9, 2007 03:58PM)
Hi Jimmy

We met in London a few years ago, while N.O was under water, good to see you spreading the word. Great Blog, real heart.
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Dec 9, 2007 07:46PM)
How you doin peter, that means a lot comin from you.

I've been tellin everybody I know, about you and that incredible dvd you put out.

I'm always talking about the advice you gave me and passin it on to the new guys.

thanks for everything, and I know your doin good cuz everything you touch turns to gold.

AND FELLAHS IF YOU GET A CHANCE CHECK OUT HIS WORK HE'S ONE OF THE BEST PROS OUT THERE.

just click on brandmagic's profile and go to his site.
Message: Posted by: KOPHI (Dec 10, 2007 07:30AM)
Peter's DVD was the inspiration I needed to dig the ropes back outta my gig bag. His rope bit with the child assistant as a draw is awesome. His work with the Slydini Scarves, Coin through Table, and Cups & Balls was also very helpful. I think Crowd Puller is a must have for the Busker's library.

My favority part of those DVDs is his juggler joke. I still laugh every time I think of that :)
Message: Posted by: tom hughes (Dec 10, 2007 09:31AM)
I couldn't agree more... crowdpuller is a "must have". Love the blog too... it's amazing how generous people like Jimmy Talksalot and Peter Wardell are with their hard earned information... thanks guys.
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Dec 21, 2007 10:51AM)
Yeh I wish they would put a sticky on this that way beginners would be able to find the info.
Message: Posted by: ed rhodes (Dec 21, 2007 12:12PM)
Can you ask?
Message: Posted by: Danny Hustle (Dec 21, 2007 04:11PM)
Turtles!
Message: Posted by: BAH1313 (Dec 21, 2007 10:15PM)
Hee hee hee...
Message: Posted by: ed rhodes (Dec 22, 2007 11:30AM)
Is that chain going someplace that tickles, BAH?

And Danny, you can't fool me! It's turtles all the way down!
Message: Posted by: Danny Hustle (Dec 22, 2007 01:06PM)
HA HA!!!!

That is right! We are all sitting on a big giant turtle!

I like turtles!

Best,

Dan-
Message: Posted by: Jason Fleming (Dec 22, 2007 03:10PM)
It was a Zombie Jamboree...
Message: Posted by: ed rhodes (Dec 22, 2007 11:18PM)
[quote]
On 2007-12-22 14:06, Danny Hustle wrote:
HA HA!!!!

That is right! We are all sitting on a big giant turtle!

I like turtles!

Best,

Dan-
[/quote]


Here you go Dan! The Discworld!

http://www.answers.com/topic/discworld-world


(I can't find any clips of the turtle from the "Hogfather" special. But there is some animation from the video game. Later.
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Jan 4, 2008 10:24PM)
Ok can some one lemme in on the turtles?

Posted: Jan 4, 2008 11:25pm
And who and where do I ask for the sticky?
Message: Posted by: Kozmo (Jan 4, 2008 11:00PM)
Hey jimmy...sounds to me like i'ma sellout!

koz
Message: Posted by: FunTimeAl (Jan 5, 2008 12:54PM)
F you all f street performing f everyone. You have no idea what you're talking about if you discount the weekend warrior.


You do not want to share a pitch with me. I am funnier than you. I am better than you. I will top your hat.
Message: Posted by: Kondini (Jan 5, 2008 12:58PM)
And a Happy New Year to you to,,,,you $$$%%%%&&&88888 er !!!
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Jan 5, 2008 01:43PM)
You know my intent with !@#$%ing about hobbyests or amatuers or week end warriors was not to belittle them, quite the opposite.

my hopes is that these people obviously have a talent and if it is there calling I want to give them a push in the direction of going full time into their lifes work.

BUT,

if it ain't your lifes work and your happy doin what your doin thanks for all the hard work and contributions to our art.

Posted: Jan 5, 2008 2:52pm
Oh yeh and happy new year y'all
Message: Posted by: Kozmo (Jan 5, 2008 02:29PM)
I'm really frickin lazy....thats why I don't care about caps and all that...PLUS I'm a street performer so school wasn't real important!

not only that...when I stopped posting here I became forgatten...what up with that? :)

kozmo
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Jan 5, 2008 03:23PM)
I remember you, you fricken lazy no capitalizig sell out.

how you doin....makin the big money.

I couldn't make it to l.a. that week cuz I had to go to the doctors for my ears and have em worked on. they're good now.
Message: Posted by: johnnymystic (Jan 5, 2008 03:40PM)
Your ears are great Jimmy...

Jimmy told me he got a new fangled hearing aid, best there is.

I asked what kind it was, he looked at his watch and answered,

"4:20"
Message: Posted by: ed rhodes (Jan 8, 2008 10:32PM)
[quote]
On 2008-01-05 14:43, jimmy talksalot wrote:
You know my intent with !@#$%ing about hobbyests or amatuers or week end warriors was not to belittle them, quite the opposite.

my hopes is that these people obviously have a talent and if it is there calling I want to give them a push in the direction of going full time into their lifes work.

BUT,

if it ain't your lifes work and your happy doin what your doin thanks for all the hard work and contributions to our art.
[/quote]

Thanks, as much as I enjoy doing and learning about magic, I've come to the conclusion that it's never going to be my life's work. Si la querre! (sp?)

By the way, maybe you could bring up the stickey idea to the management people. (Of course, they've got their hands full with the search engine right now so it might not be the best time.)
Message: Posted by: Dave V (Jan 9, 2008 12:17AM)
[quote]
On 2008-01-08 23:32, mandrake01 wrote:
By the way, maybe you could bring up the stickey idea to the management people. [/quote]
Actually, if you search the manager and tech support forum, this was brought up before. Well, not this thread specifically, but the topic of requesting stickies. The general answer is "no" unless the thread was started by a staff member. But, you never know, they've been known to bend the rules on special occasions.
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Jan 9, 2008 12:57AM)
Ok seriously you guys have got to start sending your bio street histories and the town you work and the name of your teachers for the whos who.
Message: Posted by: ed rhodes (Jan 21, 2008 11:22AM)
Where's the who's who, realizing that I'm more of a "who cares!"
Message: Posted by: Danny Hustle (Jan 21, 2008 12:31PM)
That's why I like turtles!
Message: Posted by: gaddy (Jan 21, 2008 03:41PM)
[quote]
On 2008-01-09 01:57, jimmy talksalot wrote:
Ok seriously you guys have got to start sending your bio street histories and the town you work and the name of your teachers for the whos who.
[/quote]

name: Gaddy
town: San Francisco
time spent busking: less than a year...
time in magic: started as a kid, got out of it, got back in about 3 years ago!
Teachers: Jerry Salazar, Jim Fassbinder
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Jan 21, 2008 04:20PM)
Gaddy your up,

here's the link to the whos who;

http://sidewalkperformerswhoswho.blogspot.com/

Posted: Jan 21, 2008 10:09pm
Thanks John Sturk,

your on the whos who hey y'all please keep sending profiles and I'll keep putting them up. part time full time long time veteran or beginner what ever.
Message: Posted by: ed rhodes (Jan 22, 2008 10:50PM)
Not a problem, actually not all that surprised.
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Jan 22, 2008 11:17PM)
Mandrake,

please send info and I'll put it up right away once again sorry I'm just an idiot sometimes.

a pic would be good too.
Message: Posted by: ed rhodes (Jan 23, 2008 05:01AM)
No big, trust me. I'll work on it. I even have a picture, my kid was recording me doing a rope routine and he accidently snapped a picture instead of running the video mode! Serendipity.

(As soon as I get the stupid thing edited and put together the way I like it, I'll post it on youtube and myspace and then you can all tear me apart!)
Message: Posted by: Paddy (Jan 23, 2008 08:06AM)
I Like Turtles!!!
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Jan 24, 2008 11:43AM)
Mandrake,

your up on the whos who.

FELLAHS SEND MORE BIOS.
Message: Posted by: ed rhodes (Jan 24, 2008 01:10PM)
Thank you Jimmy! :dancing: I feel special!
Message: Posted by: John Bowlin (Jan 24, 2008 03:48PM)
Bring me a turtle, and make it snappy!
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Jan 25, 2008 01:56PM)
Bah1313,


your up on the "whos who" sorry I took so long, I was just a little self concience and didn't want to screw it up.

if there's something you don't like, tell me and I'll change it right away.

here's the link;


http://sidewalkperformerswhoswho.blogspot.com/2008/01/bobby-maverick.html
Message: Posted by: Andy Charlton (Jan 31, 2008 04:48AM)
Hi Jimmy.

ThankyouThankyouThankyou.

Brilliant stuff on the blog.

Er...did I say thank you?

Thank You.

Andy
Message: Posted by: Brent McLeod (Feb 4, 2008 06:27PM)
Jimmy-great info on the blog

Thanks for sharing-appreciated

One thing I have found in the last year of serious street performing & Svengali pitching at dozens of markets & festivals is the more I am involved-the more I want to do it & the more I move away from magic clubs etc etc.. I cant get enough at the moment-thats why I enjoy the blogs & forums so much!!

The International Auckland Buskerfest 2008 is on at present over 7 days with massive crowds in the city attending all the spots around the city hosted by the brilliant Nick Nickolas who has had the crowds in hysterics & also pulling huge hats!!!

2000-3000 people a night are at the main square outside the 1 pub & viaduct harbour for the 2 hr night shows after the days performances-Everyones having a great time!!!!!!!!!
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Feb 24, 2008 09:50PM)
Great info thanks.
Message: Posted by: charliemartin (Feb 24, 2008 11:11PM)
Jimmy, so good to see you. Hope all is well. Lost track of you after AC. Keep in touch.

Charlie
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Feb 25, 2008 10:39AM)
Hey charlie took your performance suggestions and they have been working with huge impact thanks a lot.

what ever your doin where ever your doin it I know it's brilliant work.

thanks for every thing.

your pal jimmy
Message: Posted by: FunTimeAl (Mar 10, 2008 08:00PM)
Bringin' this thread back up to the top!

Jimmy's in N.O. makin' the fat hats right now...

So...somebody's gotta keep this place runnin' ship shape ;)
Message: Posted by: gaddy (Mar 14, 2008 06:35PM)
[quote]
On 2008-01-21 16:41, gaddy wrote:
[quote]
On 2008-01-09 01:57, jimmy talksalot wrote:
Ok seriously you guys have got to start sending your bio street histories and the town you work and the name of your teachers for the whos who.
[/quote]

name: Gaddy
town: San Francisco
time spent busking: less than a year...
time in magic: started as a kid, got out of it, got back in about 3 years ago!
Teachers: Jerry Salazar, Jim Fassbinder
[/quote]

a few recent photos of me bar busking- which is pretty easy to get away with using a full table rig when you're also a bartender there...

Smoke 'em if you got 'em!

[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v213/reverendgaddy/gaddybusking2.jpg[/img]
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v213/reverendgaddy/gaddybusking3.jpg[/img]
Message: Posted by: FunTimeAl (Mar 15, 2008 05:10AM)
Nice get up Gaddy!

Love the look of the table too. That's classy!!!
Message: Posted by: gaddy (Mar 17, 2008 02:04AM)
[quote]
On 2008-03-15 06:10, Chad wrote:
Nice get up Gaddy!

Love the look of the table too. That's classy!!!
[/quote]

thanks!

And this is the dressed down, "I'm-not-wearing-linen-shirts-in-a-hot-sweaty-bar" version of my garb, too.

Here is a close up of my sign that was cut off in that pic. I painted it myself and am rather proud of it:
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v213/reverendgaddy/busking%20table/100_0445.jpg[/img]
Message: Posted by: JohntheMagician (Mar 17, 2008 02:52PM)
Gaddy

that's a really nice setup you have, and great artwork as well.

I'll have to post a few pictures myself when I head back out after the weather turns here.
Message: Posted by: DAK (Mar 19, 2008 11:10AM)
Jimmy,

love the blog! Looking forward to you heading over to "sunny" england this summer.

love your artwork Gaddy!

Kindest Regards

Dominick
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Mar 19, 2008 12:50PM)
I can't wait I miss it a lot and all you fellahs over there....london rocks!
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Mar 23, 2008 10:32AM)
Word has it from the publisher that my book is supposed to be coming out in may.
Message: Posted by: Danny Borneo (Mar 25, 2008 07:54AM)
Look forward to checking that out Jimmy, the blog is a great resource and I want to add to the flood of "thank yous" that you've already gotten I'm sure.
Message: Posted by: DAK (Mar 25, 2008 09:45AM)
I'm looking forward to May, Jimmy!

Dominick
Message: Posted by: JMuoio (Mar 25, 2008 07:58PM)
Your blog is great, so I can't wait for your book. How much do you think it will be?
Message: Posted by: atucci (Mar 25, 2008 11:58PM)
Jimmy congrats again on the book. Can't wait until it's released. Of course you'll need to let us know how we can obtain signed copies.

I hear you're also considering releasing some effects as well. Is that true?

Finally do you ever get into the state of Florida to perform?

Stay well..............

Tony
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Mar 27, 2008 04:53PM)
My teacher doug conn is putting together a product line for me, a lot of magic and site gag stuff.

it has been grooling work filming writing and instructional stuff. I'm excited about it. it's all practical stuff that I have worked for years on the street. the biggest thing I'm proud of is that it's parlor, hand slieght, no gimmick, no reset, material.

the reason I'm so proud of it is because there is little to none being offered for those interested in that sort of thing, so I'm hoping it will set of a trend of parlor manip street stuff.....if enough people are interested in doing it.
Message: Posted by: marD (Mar 27, 2008 04:59PM)
That's great to hear jimmy! I am looking forward to seeing what's coming out!
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Apr 2, 2008 10:54AM)
New info on my book at the publishers page,

http://leapinglizardsmagic.com/lure_with_spectacle.htm
Message: Posted by: Tony Iacoviello (Apr 2, 2008 12:07PM)
Thanks Jimmy and congratulations.
Message: Posted by: SeaDawg (Apr 2, 2008 01:04PM)
Jimmy,
Can not wait to get my hands on this...

Congrats and continued FAT Hats Buddy
Message: Posted by: ed rhodes (Apr 4, 2008 12:11PM)
Is the book going to be sold at bookshops or do we have to order online?

(Specifically, I have a Border's book shop near me, will it be there?)
Message: Posted by: Paddy (Apr 5, 2008 09:10AM)
Mandrake, you changed your name! Get the book at Leaping Lizards online, he is Jimmie's publisher.
Message: Posted by: ed rhodes (Apr 5, 2008 09:46AM)
Yeah, I was getting a little chaffed at "mandrake01." They were very nice about it. I was considering changing the avatar, but everybody tells me they like it.
Message: Posted by: gaddy (Apr 5, 2008 03:34PM)
[quote]
On 2008-04-05 10:46, ed rhodes wrote:
Yeah, I was getting a little chaffed at "mandrake01." They were very nice about it. I was considering changing the avatar, but everybody tells me they like it.
[/quote]

And yet you ratted me out for mine. I'm hurt! :rolleyes:
Message: Posted by: ed rhodes (Apr 6, 2008 08:13AM)
I didn't rat out anybody. If I had, I would have gone to the "I Want To Talk To The Manager" section and asked there.

And mine's me, so I don't see a problem.
Message: Posted by: Danny Hustle (Apr 6, 2008 09:10AM)
Another thread hijacked, murdered, and tossed limply, to the side of the road... Oh the humanity!

TURTLES!!
Message: Posted by: ed rhodes (Apr 6, 2008 11:11AM)
Well, maybe. But if we keep posting on it, even sureal stuff, it keeps the thread up near the top of the list and everybody gets to find out about jimmy's neat blog!

(Which has no turtles in it!)
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Apr 6, 2008 11:07PM)
Meow
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Apr 6, 2008 11:14PM)
If you clicked on this thread and didn't read the first post you really need to go back to the first page and begin reading there.....before somebody let all these turtles in here.

but thanks fellahs for keeping it at the top....community sticky.

p.s. if you like my writing work a lot of the credit should go to danny for giving me

a vehicle to write at the buskerscafe.com and give me some exposure.

but definately go to my blog that's where all the writing is more of a finished product after it has been critiqued at the buskerscafe by all the experienced fellahs over there.
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Apr 6, 2008 11:14PM)
http://jimmytalksalot.blogspot.com/
Message: Posted by: ed rhodes (Apr 8, 2008 11:13PM)
The thing about letting the turtles in man, is you have to hold the door open for a long time!

Jimmy? How come the website shown on your blog;

http://www.jimmytalksalot.com/products.htm

doesn't act as a link to your product line?

Is it just a mistake or am I missing something and there's a legitimate reason?
Message: Posted by: ed rhodes (Apr 8, 2008 11:25PM)
[quote]
On 2008-04-09 00:13, ed rhodes wrote:
[/quote]
The thing about letting the turtles in man, is you have to hold the door open for a long time!

Jimmy? How come the website shown on your blog;

http://www.jimmytalksalot.com/products.htm

doesn't act as a link to your product line?

Is it just a mistake or am I missing something and there's a legitimate reason?


BTW, I love the kid giggling in your video! That and the line, "if you don't clap you look stupid for standing here watching for ten minutes!"

I do not know why that just happened!
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Apr 10, 2008 08:10AM)
Ed you need to sign up.
Message: Posted by: ed rhodes (Apr 14, 2008 04:53AM)
I thought I did.

The reference to "why that just happened" was that the post got duplicated instead of being edited. It wasn't a reference to what you said or did.

Sorry for the confusion.
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Apr 19, 2008 04:28PM)
Ok
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Apr 30, 2008 11:33AM)
If your learning how to street perform or are just interested in the world of busking please give my blog a look.

http://jimmytalksalot.blogspot.com/
Message: Posted by: KurtK (May 7, 2008 11:38PM)
Wow that was fun to read. I loved the video clips too. IDK if I'm "too young" for busking or whateve but I think it looks like great fun.
Message: Posted by: dmoses (May 21, 2008 05:00PM)
A fun read... thanks
Message: Posted by: RobertBloor (May 21, 2008 05:42PM)
You've got great stuff Jimmy. Great stuff. Thanks for your contributions.
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (May 30, 2008 08:07AM)
Thanks robert,

I started it for beginners.

here's the link.

http://jimmytalksalot.blogspot.com/
Message: Posted by: Robin Z (May 30, 2008 12:09PM)
Great book, I bought it a few days ago and read through it in one session.

I'm rereading as I post this, maybe a bit slower this time.
Message: Posted by: MagiCol (May 30, 2008 03:28PM)
I've had the book for a few weeks and keep it on hand and dip into to get reminders, education, and inspiration from. This book is best kept within easy reach and thoughfully read often. One statement that has really sunk into my mind is "It's better to go out and do something than to stay at home and plan something". Thanksalot Jimmy Talksalot!
Message: Posted by: DAK (Jun 3, 2008 10:57AM)
Jimmy,

Really enjoyed your book!

All the best

Dominick
Message: Posted by: JMuoio (Jun 5, 2008 03:49PM)
Jimmy,
Your book is just great. I read and reread it many times. This has gotten me to rework my crowd build and has helped me in a countless other number of ways.

Thanks, and keep up the great work.
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Jun 5, 2008 08:47PM)
Thanks, really it means a lot especially now where I'm at in my life.

I wish the best for y'all and hope you get the same rewards and better that I have got.

the real thanks goes to thos who came before us, the vets that helped me with much of the info and training I recieved.

thanks I am indebt to many.
Message: Posted by: G.Gilbert (Jun 30, 2008 04:11AM)
Jimmy were all doing great here , and right when you left a bunch of hot asian girls moved in the room above us!! Sooooo, hows Barcelona?
Message: Posted by: ed rhodes (Jun 30, 2008 11:24AM)
[quote]
On 2008-04-10 09:10, jimmy talksalot wrote:
Ed you need to sign up.
[/quote]

Did. Tried to register twice. Never heard back from you. Oh well.
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Jul 6, 2008 03:06PM)
Settle down ed, sorry we are having problems with the site, the products, and everything, when the season is over I'll have it all sorted out.

right now I gotta work the streets and I'm in europe with a bundle of problems concerning my work.

once again I'm really sorry but when the seasons over I promise to make it up to everyone ten fold, I have some really great stuff comming and I'm hoping itm will change the face of busking.

pleas be patient, I'm really a better busker then a a marketer.

your pal jimmy.
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Jul 6, 2008 03:09PM)
The rest of the sites are working and the instructional blog is still up;

http://jimmytalksalot.blogspot.com/
Message: Posted by: Hawkan (Jul 7, 2008 05:31AM)
Any chance that you´re visiting Sweden?

Håkan
:wavey:
Message: Posted by: marty.sasaki (Jul 7, 2008 09:25AM)
Jimmy,

It looks like http://jimmytalksalot.com/ is down. I get a message from godaddy saying that the site is unavailable.
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Jul 7, 2008 02:56PM)
Should be up tomarrow.

I'm in london right now, I'm not sure where I might be headed, I'm a little road weary.

I'll write back inna lil while.
Message: Posted by: gallagher (Jul 8, 2008 06:36AM)
Jimmy´s one of the greatest out there,... as a Preformer and as Teacher;... but for those looking for a `Graduate Class´, check out the Rudy Coby interview here in the Café. Question eight: `Developing a Show´. There´s the bottomline.
good luck,... or as the French more fittingly say, "bon courage´.
gallagher
Message: Posted by: Wayne Whiting (Jul 8, 2008 09:57AM)
I think Rudy's advice is excellent. Reminds me of what John Carney was saying in the opening pages of his book Carneycopia with his discussion of books versus watching DVDs.
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Jul 11, 2008 06:15AM)
Sites back up
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Jul 11, 2008 06:15AM)
Jimmytalksalot.com
Message: Posted by: L Trunk (Jul 11, 2008 09:22AM)
Wow. I'd totally forgotten who Rudy Coby was... fired up youtube and realised that I'd seen one of his specials as a kid and totally loved it.
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Jul 11, 2008 01:02PM)
Where's the rudy coby link I couldn't find it?
Message: Posted by: Eric Evans (Jul 11, 2008 01:58PM)
Here ya go Jimmy....

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=265803&forum=255&1

BTW, I think you already have this advice covered in your act bro.
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Jul 12, 2008 03:59AM)
I got it!
Message: Posted by: bropaul (Jul 12, 2008 09:14PM)
Nice to be catching up... Jimmy, I've read a lot of your blog and you are doing what you should be doing. Keep it up and we'll continue to learn from one of the best. It was good to meet you on the street this last winter. I'm really looking forward to getting back up there again.

I haven't been up on this site for a long time, but now I see a lot of water has passed by. A lot of it has washed a bunch of the BS away, but I'm glad to see there is still a lot left.

I have recommended your blog to a few up and comers and they have thanked me. So continue to make me look like I know what I'm doing Jimmy and stay in touch.

Now I've got a lot of reading to do... Later Brother.

Bro. Paul West
http://www.BrotherPaulMagic.com
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Jul 13, 2008 04:48PM)
Thanks for everythin bro.paul

good to hear from you.
Message: Posted by: T. Sebastian (Jul 13, 2008 08:38PM)
I just read through this entire thread and the whole blog too.
Lots of info to chew on. Thanks for sharing the wisdom of your years of experience with a worm like me Jimmy.
One thing that really stuck out was the bit about how you can't by class. Humility is a must.
I had a lesson in this a few months ago.
I found myself entertaining the mayor and some of the local elite.
Luckily I was "on" that day. But when one of my tricks was interrupted so that I could take a picture of someone with the mayor I realised
entertainer = servant.
And to let anything go to your head is a huge mistake.
Not that I was in danger of thinking I'm actually any good, but a reminder is always good to keep me in my place.
So keep writing and I'll keep reading.
Guys like you are my teachers and I will endeavor to be a worthy student.
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Jul 14, 2008 04:57AM)
Entertainer = servant

exactly.
Message: Posted by: Dynamike (Jul 18, 2008 11:55AM)
Jimmy, I watched your videos, dude. You da man bro. That character is high class. You got the whole world in your hat. Keep up the good work homie. Ya kno' wha' I'm say'n?
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Jul 19, 2008 04:51AM)
Yeh brah I got ya, thanks. no really thanks.

went to your site your whole rig is cool the back drop the tables the costume.

got any footage?
Message: Posted by: Dynamike (Jul 19, 2008 09:17AM)
No not yet. I am still working on that.
Message: Posted by: bluemagic (Jul 21, 2008 10:51PM)
I like what I read and you have great information.What is your veiw using cards?
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Jul 22, 2008 07:29AM)
Good question.

I don't like em for so many reasons I don't have time to explain right now.

I literally could write a book on why. and it would never lose it's variety like most card tricks do.

I'll list 3 reasons, but I literally have thousands. no really I wish I had time.

#1. uncontrolled interaction.

#2. generally the audience believes card tricks are cheesey, boring, too involved, hard to follow, and amature, before you even get started.

#3.card tricks are hard for a large crowd to see unless it's manipulation or jumbos.


with that said, I do think if somebody was to do a card show [cards only or predominantly] on the street, that would be pretty original. and could cancel out some of the problems that card tricks cause when they enter a show.

if your doing a close up sidewalk show or doorway act with extremely heavy foot traffic, then yeh card tricks on a table that have been extremely scripted and routined could look pro and create a persona. I am a huge fan of "the sidewalk shuffle" done behind a table with JUMBO CARDS.

but don't expect to make big money, unless you repeat 8 min shows over and over.

all the successful card routines I've seen are direct get quickly to the effect and are filled with effects before they get there. boom boom boom. short and sweet the person signs the card so they can't lie or forget, and the performer puts it back in the deck himself.

if kept very simple and direct a card trick makes a great finale. eg. card to wallet, card to fruit, card to somewhere interesting and impossible, or a card throw.


most importantly you will need a lot of personality and showmanship to make a card trick look professional and interesting because unlike other tricks it wont on it's own.

I do like jumbo card tricks, but not monologue tricks with jumbos. I think the effect should be able to stand on it's own or cut that patter in half to give more impact to the effect.

jumbo manipulations look great....troubles with angles surrounded, but, wow, they look great and get emediate attention and interest.

I'm rambling
Message: Posted by: L Trunk (Jul 22, 2008 08:36AM)
Any learning resources on jumbo manipulations? Only one I've seen is the dvd from Cyril Harvey.
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Jul 26, 2008 04:39PM)
That's a good question,

here's a pretty good thread on it;

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=181&forum=204
Message: Posted by: bluemagic (Jul 28, 2008 10:07PM)
A dvd to add to the list is bob sheet,hang em high.rope thru body and card across that I think would be good for the street.
Message: Posted by: Dynamike (Jul 29, 2008 07:49AM)
Jimmy, presently, how is the crowd compared to the previous crowd before the flood? Do you see more or less tourist? Do you have to watch your back more from crimes after the flood?
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Jul 30, 2008 04:46AM)
I'm in europe right now because it's too hot to be in new orleans. this is real. even if your some superman freak that can withstand that sort of heat, your audience wont.

you could ask doug conn or warpo. they are there right now working.

warpo tells me he works at nite when it's hot and miserable, but not impossible.

he does quick 5-10 min shows that's all they'll stand due to the heat.

when I was home some months ago, the crime had gone down and some of the tourists had come back.
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Aug 9, 2008 05:39AM)
I´m in spain and loving it.

the hats are small but everything else is great.
Message: Posted by: Dynamike (Aug 9, 2008 10:23AM)
Will it be possible to be in China performing it with the Olympics tourist?
Message: Posted by: T. Sebastian (Aug 9, 2008 03:03PM)
Jimmy's in Spain and I had a kid from Spain as a volunteer today.
It really is a small world.
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Aug 10, 2008 07:51AM)
No it´s magic.

I dunno about the china tourist thing, but i´m definately headed for asia, so I will be looking into it..thanks.
Message: Posted by: tian_ci (Aug 13, 2008 09:31PM)
China...
Hmmm...

As long as you're a white smiling face I think you'll be okay.
Just watch out for the dirty kids with no parents cuz they'll try to rob you. It sucks to say that, but the generalization is pretty solid.

The chinese will stop to watch you know matter what cuz you're white. I helped my friend film a Magic TV special in Shanghai while living there and he had a crowd of 50+ people while performing Liquid Metal/fork bending. This happened in 4-5 minutes.

If you head to Shanghai let me know and I can hook you up with some friends to possibley stay with.

Cheers
Matt
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Aug 16, 2008 05:32AM)
Wow! that´s a great offer, thanks I may take you up on that.

and if you need anything please holler.
Message: Posted by: Paul Jester (Aug 17, 2008 06:08AM)
Hey Jimmy, if you end up in Shanghai, or anywhere in China, give me a shout! ;)
Paul
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Aug 18, 2008 08:08AM)
Thanks paul great to hear from you I injoyed our time together in london you.

take care and thanks for everything.
Message: Posted by: Dynamike (Aug 18, 2008 04:09PM)
Jimmy, do you have any plans to come to Michigan?
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Aug 19, 2008 01:34PM)
Hey dynamike....you buy my book yet?

I been reading your comments on all the forums and it sounds like your havin a ball...sounds like you got the bug.

i´m in spain right now workin out a new show.

back in the states my wife allows me in the house for a month or two around christmas if i´m good.

I am planning a lecture tour accross the u.s. hoping for a grass roots thing, hoping the magi all about will work toegether to get me to their town....but I dunno still tryin to get over this bad decision I made to come to europe for this season they are in a recession here right now.

hey watch this;


¿wanna go en la mañana? yeh the n has it´´s own ñ

i´´m in spain and the double apastrophe in i´´m does that everytime I dunno why.

there´´s more but i´´ll. spare you.
Message: Posted by: Dynamike (Aug 19, 2008 03:28PM)
Another magician did advise me to get your book when we talked over the phone. No one on the Café advised me to purchase it. I thought I read it all by going thru your remarkable website. I will buy your book anyway. If I did not miss anything because of your cool website, at least it will be a donation. Thanks buddy.

P.S. Jimmy, between me and you, why are you so nice? :)
Message: Posted by: Mark Rough (Aug 19, 2008 03:40PM)
Mike,

Get Jimmy's book.

Mark
Message: Posted by: Dynamike (Aug 19, 2008 03:50PM)
That's a rap. :readingbook:
Message: Posted by: Eduardo (Aug 20, 2008 09:30AM)
Hi Jimmy

You are in spain?
What Spanish City Are You?
I’d love to see you performing... I'm from northern Portugal, near the border with galicia... if you plan to come there please let me know...
the best regards
Eduardo
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Aug 21, 2008 03:01PM)
Mark Raven,

thanks.



Eduardo,

i´m in barcelona right now.

this is a very tuff town to work right now because of some of the recent restrictions and because I am building a new show and it has cost me money.

on top of all of this europe is feeling the recession also.

but I have latin blood on mymoms side and I am loving it in in southern europe.

the wise choice of course would to be in northern europe where the money´s at but I am happy any way.

I love spain.

I have always been curious about portugal but I must finish working until I have made my new show.

Dynamike,

my book is a manual and is designed to be brought to the pitch with you and help out.

there´s a lot of info in there that is not in the blog and it is put together so you can figure things out step by step instead of a haphazard understanding like the blog...as much as I am proud of the blog the book is better and loaded with more info.

nice....believe me I have my critics.

just ask some of the head honchos in the magicians society threads how nice I am.

if you can find the thread where I tell them in their section what I think of what the societies have turned into today. I thought I was nice but they got more then defencive they got down right nasty.

or ask some of the guys who believe that money is the number one reason to street perform if i´m nice
Message: Posted by: JohntheMagician (Aug 22, 2008 08:01AM)
Dynamike, Get Jimmy's Book read it, live it.

While I can't just drop everything and become a Street Performer full time.
( My wife & kids wouldn't let me back in the house at all )
I consider myself a "Weekend Warrior" {to use a National Gurad term}. I am out bright and early every Saturday to a local Market Place that encourages performers to help draw a crowd.
I recently got my permit to start working Fells Point & Baltimore City MD so we'll see how that turns out.


Jimmy~ Did I hear correct that you were planning on doing a lecture tour? Let me know when your doing the East Coast. I'll book you for my magic group.
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Aug 23, 2008 03:56AM)
JohntheMagician

thanks

you heard right, and yes I would like you to book that. but I am not sure yet when.

I have been traveling the world and watching and listening to what people need.

I work every day on many locations and am meeting and working with some of the worlds greatest street performers I am very fortunate and I think this information could be useful for the guys all over in the states.
Message: Posted by: gman (Aug 23, 2008 01:34PM)
Jimmy will be ordering the book next Friday...Need all the help I can get. And I heard a rumor that you are coming out with a 2nd book?? Put me in for an order on that too!!!

Hey John, missed seeing you at the market today. Waited for a half hour but then I set up to work. Shoot me a pm maybe we can get a preliminary site central to both Harrisburg and Lancaster.

George
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Aug 25, 2008 02:25PM)
Yeh I heard genii has done a review on it in this august issue.

but where I am at, I can´t seem to get to a genii magazine, I really wish I could read it, I have no idea what they have said about the book.

yeh this winter I have a lot to put together.

the pouch frank has made for me is a dream and has helped me finally be able to put my new bigger better show together, i´m really pleased....thanks frank.

check it out,

http://www.theambitiouscard.com/aitem.cfm?itemid=48
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Aug 28, 2008 05:55AM)
If you're a beginner and are lacking resources I have set up a blog that teaches how to be a sidewalk performer for those of you that are interested.

jimmytalksalot.blogspot.com
Message: Posted by: Danny Borneo (Aug 28, 2008 08:38AM)
Bookmarked and now part of the morning routine. Thanks Jimmy, while I'm not new, even an old dog can learn some new tricks.
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Aug 28, 2008 03:20PM)
Thanks hope you injoy it.

I will be updating when the seasons over. I got a load of stuff for it after this season adventure. man what a tuff season.
Message: Posted by: Robin Z (Aug 28, 2008 03:40PM)
I can't wait, I've always been a big fan of the blog.
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Aug 31, 2008 05:42AM)
Thanks there´s gonna be a lot. I have been traveling through out europe and meeting the best in the world.

I am also gonna be filling up the sidewalkperformers who´s who blog with sidewalk guys from all over the world.

I will be writing personal stories in the day at the office blog.
Message: Posted by: gman (Aug 31, 2008 08:41AM)
Sounds like I am going to need a notebook for this one. Hope you are having a better time in Spain, know you were saying it was rough.

Best of Luck
George
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Sep 3, 2008 03:55AM)
The most exciting news for me is that I have found my big finale after at least 7 years of looking for a new one.

the thing plays as big as a large stage illusion and fits in a small pouch or even in my pockets.

also after recieving my new pouch I have a show that works so people in a stadium could see what I was doing. all large manipulations, 2 1/2" -3" bright red balls for the beginning manipulations and bright 4 1/2" balls to finish manips.....with the pouch working all surrounded.

the people love it and it is paying more then my old show.

this is important because my old show is "tryed and true" and has had to pull me out of all those days of expermiments and loss money, but now with these new tricks even with my terrible performance (because I don´t have them down yet) the effects are paying more.

I can´t imagine how well it should do after I get it all together and down tight.
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Sep 3, 2008 03:59AM)
I know it´s more difficult but If you can come up with something on your own and more original and avoid using a table, cups and balls, and a straight jacket as your finale, do it! believe me, it is well worth the feeling that you didn´t just take the clone way out. and you will have something to be proud of instead of compared to a million others.

don´t get me wrong these other things are good too, but too much of a good thing ya know.
Message: Posted by: Dynamike (Sep 3, 2008 06:07AM)
I close with Chair Suspension.
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Sep 4, 2008 05:27AM)
My friend istuwa does did that back in the day in new orleans.

he used to be abale to build big crowds and get big hats largely because of this effect.

he also used doves with the vanishing cage trick.
Message: Posted by: gman (Sep 5, 2008 03:38AM)
Jimmy, congratulations on getting your finale. I actually close with a rope routine (when I can get a group of people that is). It got some good reactions from the spectators.

George
Message: Posted by: TheAmbitiousCard (Sep 5, 2008 10:46AM)
You're working hard and it's paying off Jimmy! Keep up the good work.
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Sep 6, 2008 07:29AM)
Thanks for being patient frank.

I think your gonna love what I come up with.

i´m working with one of the pros from the festivals a guy named istvan
Message: Posted by: Harry Murphy (Sep 6, 2008 08:12AM)
Man, you know you must be nearing "master" status when clones of your act start appearing. I was in Ocean City, Maryland a few weeks ago and watched not one but two different guys pretty much so your act! Lines, gags, and costume both were Jimmy Talksalot clones! You must be doing something right!
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Sep 8, 2008 03:45AM)
Those were students.

I gotta new show.

and they´re mine! get your own.
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Sep 8, 2008 03:47AM)
Thanks for the compliments.

and I hope they impressed you. or at least entertained you and gave you a good time.
Message: Posted by: Dynamike (Sep 8, 2008 02:47PM)
[quote]
On 2008-08-19 14:34, jimmy talksalot wrote:
Hey dynamike....you buy my book yet?
[/quote]
I received it today. Is it ok with you if I mention what I think about it?
Message: Posted by: G.Gilbert (Sep 8, 2008 11:34PM)
TWO Jimmy clones? I thought I was the only one.. alright I'm gonna have to fight somebody . (NO not really)

seriously - I'm tryin to break away from the base my teachers have given me .. but some of the character and funny bits have just stuck with me - ..

my costume aint like jimmys

my show has changed a lot in such a short period of time... Maybe if you went back to OC for sunfest you'd see the diffrence.. like Jimmy said I hope you had fun
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Sep 9, 2008 04:23PM)
Georges show rocks.
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Sep 10, 2008 04:58AM)
I got a lot of performers who have picked up stuff from me and people are calling them clones.

the truth is I am not even the original.

my hero is sonny holliday. with permission I picked up a lot from him.

when ever people saw me in the past people called me a sonny holliday clone, but now they can see the difference.

I think in the future as my students grow into thier characters more promanently everyone will see the difference.

funny thing when I first seen george years ago he was like a buster keaton character silent. when I saw him recently I saw hints of me and hints of eric evans.....but mostly I saw george because I know him. but it startled me to see him so out going, the george I always knew was a silent character and then bam! now he´s a super out going character.

it just shows that even tho, yeh maybe he´s picked up a lot of habits from others he is very versetile.

THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS HE DID NOT JUST COPY SOME ONE OR THEIR ROUTINE.

HE GOT PERMISION TO AND GAVE CREDIT TO THE ONE BEFORE HIM.

this is probably one of the greatest things about george and the rest of my students is that they respect our art and tradition and believe in what we do.

I love being around them and learning from them, they have taken my work and changed it and made it better and made it theirs.

this is what I tryed to do with my teachers.
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Sep 10, 2008 04:04PM)
Dynamike,

the best advice I could give you is to go to work.....now all day....everyday, and do as many shows as you can. over and over until working the street is natural to you and your street show is tight.

thanks for getting the book I hope it helps you.

I wish you all the best and respect you because you chose something I really believe in and has saved and changed my life.
Message: Posted by: Dynamike (Sep 10, 2008 09:12PM)
Jimmy, your book is great. It feels like gold in my hands. I bet there is not a better Street Busking book with as much needed information.

The only thing I was disappointed in was your autograph was not on any of the pages.
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Sep 11, 2008 09:55AM)
Thanks for the kind words.

i´d be happy to sign it.

the truth is that the book is not me, it is the acumalation of precious information from all the older vetrans and masters who have been working the street for years.

granted I am living proof that they are right from living the examples and suffering the hardships, but the guys I have listed in the back of the book should be getting most of the credit. there is a lot more I didn´t list but they all know who they are.

i´ll list some here as a reminder for you;

jim cellini

sonny holliday

doug conn

eric evans

dante in new orleans

tom frank

"toot" riki palmer

jerry salazar in frisco

patrick kelly in georgia

johnny balloons in new orleans

and many many more thousands I know all over the world.

these guys are real buskers.

they are not on the internet using busker as a call name, they work full time, and have for many years.

these guys don´t get the credit they deserve because their business is the street so you hear about guys who like to call themselves buskers but have other jobs or busk every once in a while and come on forums and tell us all how to do it.

these guys are fun and entertaining here but I would suggest you go out and meet real ones.

go to the street and ask them if this is their sole means of income.

you´ll know who the real ones are because they are out there every day.

gigs are great, I do as many as I can but when I am learning to street perform I learn from full time guys not just guys who have done it here and there and say they make a bunch of money and that´s the most important thing....because obviously they are doing it for the wrong reason.

how do I know this form guys who have been doing 20 - 40 years who have told me so and from my years of experience.

it is my hope that you will pursue being talented before you go after the money.

money is good we all need it, but it´s a hollow victory with out pride in your work.

DO WHAT YOU LOVE AND THE MONEY WILL FOLLOW.

povide a quality performance FIRST!!!!!

please don´t be another talentless hack just hustling people for money. i´m not saying you are infact i´m saying this to who ever is reading it.

and if you do become like this don´t tell me, you know you are good because you are making big hats....i can´t take any more of this ignorance in my life.

everyone that has told me this, has had a weak show that needed a lot of work.

I wont give them away out of respect even if they respond here.

but some of the worst performers I have ever seen had a great knack for making money which is good for them, but better for them and the magic community and the public (remember them?) would be if they would try and provide a quality product also.

put your focus on being great.

big hats are great and I know you will get them if you learn how.

BUT

bigs hats don´t make you a busker....your show makes you a busker.
Message: Posted by: MDantes (Sep 11, 2008 10:36AM)
That on the real jimmy.

The realest words ever said on this forum. And it means the world that you just said.

I mean that.

It's the guys luke you that make me proud to perform.

Thank you.

For real.

And like I told you before.

You are appreciated.

Bet that.
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Sep 12, 2008 04:42AM)
Xjesterx,

man it´s good to hear that.

I get a lot of flack from guys who think busking is a "get rich quick" scheme and they don´t put enough work into their act. what´s scarey is that they can´t see that´s it´s assinine to look for riches in the street instead of, oh, lets say, investments or the stock market or other places where wise people with money go.

personally I think people like this are just bad performers and deep down they know it.

since they know it and think they will never have the ability to change this they instead focus on their abiltiy to badger people for money and feel satisfied that they have street performed good because they got the money.

I meet them mostly in america but they are all over the world. in europe they recieve a seething hatered from the other performers but in the states many performers are so consumed with money and materialism and have never really seen a quality street act, that these extortionist performers are actually patted on the back.

with this it is no wonder that the american public feels like a street performer is a con or another sales pitch.

every single layman I have ever talked to has the same complaint about street performers, they say,

"i hate when a performer makes me wait and wait and wait before he does the trick and then it´s not that big of a deal, it feels like a scam."

then what´s worse is all the "performer" does is nag for money all through his "show" while providing amatuer skills and with little to no theater.

well any way i´m ranting.

there are also many performers who do not do this and the people would never have these complaints about them.

BUT THE REAL QUESTION IS WHO WOULD YOU HIRE FOR A PRIVATE FUNCTION if you discovered them one day on the street?

AND WHO WOULD BE MORE PREPARED AND QUALIFIED TO ENTERTAIN YOUR GUESTS?

NOT SOME HACK EXTORTIONIST TIME SHARE SALES MAN, THAT´S FOR SURE YOU WOULD WANT AN ENTERTAINER.

would you want some guy doing this to your guests?

AND BELIEVE ME THIS TYPE OF EXTORTIONIST PERFORMER WILL HAVE NO STAGE TIME WITH A REAL SHOW BECAUSE ALL OF HIS TIME HAS BEEN CONSUMED LEARNING HOW TO BADGER NOT ENTERTAIN.

yeh I get like this in the morning before breakfast.

any way who ever is reading this stuff thanks for the interest.

your pal jimmy
Message: Posted by: gallagher (Sep 12, 2008 05:25AM)
Hey Jimmy,.. I´ve probably shouldn´t be writing this,... taking the space, with really nothing `new´ to say.,... but, WOW man!,.. you really hit the bone!! Deeper then the meat!,.. you hit the bone!! Nothing more has to be said.

gallagher
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Sep 12, 2008 11:32AM)
No I appreciate it I get a lot of flack and it´s nice to hear people who agree with me now and again on the forums.

out here in the real world the full time buskers don´t argue with me much because here we are living it, you know.

it seems no matter where I go in the world, some big name guy or less known busker who has been doing it for years thanks me for sticking up for their way of life and telling the truth instead of pitching a "get rich quick scheme."

many of them have told me they don´t bother writing on the forums because they get sick of argueing with these guys.

they also make many suggestions what I should write and that´s a lot of what you have been hearing and a lot of what inflames some of the guys that go after me for telling what we believe is the truth about what we do.

it´s a great feeling though when these guys stop me or come looking for me, it just means I get to learn a lot on the work sight.

sometimes it kinda bothers me when some one recognizes me from the internet or youtube or something and doesn´t recognize a master I am standing next to.

but in a way it´s nice for me also because I know my work is being appreciated.

but I always make it a point for everyone to know who the master is on the pitch if this happens.

my life would be a lot easyer if I could tell you their names because this would shut so many of my critics down flat, but like I said they can´t be bothered and have asked me not to mention their names, because then it would give them my problems. and some of them I just don´t know well enough to go dropping their names.

I don´t mind doing this stuff for them I feel like I am paying them back for what they have done for me.

a lot of times I put them on the who´s who blog I got wether they like it or not, after words they always thank me any way.

this season I have accumalated a lot and this blog will be filled up this winter when I find the time.

I really believe these guys should get the credit that they deserve, but being street guys you don´t get the publicity Copperfield does.

fact is i´m not that good, guys like cellini, sonny holliday, eric evans, gazzo and nick nicholis are so good sometimes I feel like I am wasting my time.

hell my students are getting so good I can´t keep up with them.

but I am just glad in my life I got to be apart of and contribute to this work.

your pal jimmy
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Sep 16, 2008 07:19AM)
If you're a beginner and are lacking resources I have set up a blog that teaches how to be a sidewalk performer if any bodies interested.

jimmytalksalot.blogspot.com
Message: Posted by: FunTimeAl (Sep 22, 2008 05:39PM)
Jimmy,

When ya gonna get some pics of Nick on there?!?!
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Sep 23, 2008 08:12AM)
Chad thanks!

oh nick is gonna get HUGE play on the blog. to me he is exactly what a real busker is. not just to me but on every pitch he stops on they all say he is a real worker with the lifestyle. the magicians respect him as a real artist, and as young as he is he has already seen a lot of the world and worked it.

he works the first, the second and third world, because he can.


he is living the lifestyle. he is an artist and a traveller.

I have a lot of stuff to do with the blog, but I need more time off to do it.

but I promise you I will.

thanks chad for keeping this thread up and keeping the community sticky going. my goal is to beat the one at the top with views and replies that no one wants in our section.

I am hoping that the powers that be will be kind enough to give us a sticky if not well at least the beginner will know they can go to my blog to learn.

I am just happy that we have a forum like this so everyone can learn more about our art,industry,a nd ourselves.
Message: Posted by: FunTimeAl (Sep 26, 2008 02:15PM)
No problem Jimmy,

There's a lot of important information in this thread. It should be mandatory reading for new buskers.

Yeah, Nick's stories are great. He makes me wanna go out and weld a couple of old bikes together.

Ya need a tig or mig welder for that? I think it's a tig. I gotta look into getting me one of them.
Message: Posted by: AntonDreaming (Sep 26, 2008 02:25PM)
Whats the deal with the bikes being welded together?
Anton
Message: Posted by: G.Gilbert (Sep 26, 2008 04:43PM)
Anton,,

they are talkin about Nick W , "the american magician from thailand" (yea he's busked in the 3rd world) . . He's a cool guy who also used to go by the name "Nickey Robot".

He travels the world pretty much just on a Tall Bike that was given to him from a friend..
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Sep 28, 2008 10:29AM)
If you're a beginner and are lacking resources I have set up a blog that teaches how to be a sidewalk performer
jimmytalksalot.blogspot.com
Message: Posted by: gallagher (Sep 30, 2008 02:40PM)
Hey Jimmy, funny story for you. I was playing in a little town in southern Germany the past weekend. After a show, a guy came up and invited us (my lady and I) to the local `Monthly Magician Meeting', that night, in a local restraurant. Restraurant?, sure!, that sounds like a free meal! We showed up,.. ate,.. then talked a bit about playing the `streets'.

One guys asks,"My cousin sent me a book from America, by Jimmy Talksalot; is he a `Star' over there, or something?" "Yeap", I said, "right after Britney Spears and George Cloony,..Jimmy's big time."

He knew I was pulling his leg. But then he asked a funny one. "That name, `Talksalot', is he Polish?" !!! Hey, I told him how to find you on the Internet,.. that one he can ask you himself!

all the best,
gallagher
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Oct 4, 2008 10:17AM)
Yep.

I'm sick and tired of that clooney always bummin money off me.

you'd think he would have made a few bucks with those movies he did.

that britney is always embarassing us back home in louisiana.

we always try and put on a show to the out side world that we got it together....and there she is just puttin us out there for the whole world to see.

I usually tell people talksalot is english not irish because it's one word.....
Message: Posted by: FunTimeAl (Nov 2, 2008 10:12AM)
Hey Jimmy, where ya been?
Message: Posted by: TheAmbitiousCard (Nov 3, 2008 02:54PM)
Hey chad. where have YOU been?
Message: Posted by: FunTimeAl (Nov 3, 2008 03:30PM)
Me?

Just goofin' around...selling random balloon creations to small niche crowds.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/19/20081103/img/pot-obama2008-9399fe8-8ed04e426db5.html

I like to call this one the Obama "O" in Democrat Blue
Message: Posted by: TheAmbitiousCard (Nov 3, 2008 05:34PM)
GREAT! I didn't know you were so tall, either!
Message: Posted by: FunTimeAl (Nov 11, 2008 04:38PM)
Anyone heard from Jimbo?
Message: Posted by: Scott M (Nov 13, 2008 11:57AM)
Being new to the Café and old to our art, I appreciate this posting. I am awaiting an order from Theambitiouscard and wish I had this book many years ago. I plan on hitting the streets next year and am in training to pass the hat.

Thanks Jimmy for your blog...it is worth the money!

Can not wait for what else you come up with.

-Scott M
Message: Posted by: sir real (Dec 12, 2008 06:41PM)
So, anybody heard from Jimmy Talksalot lately?
Message: Posted by: MagiCol (Dec 13, 2008 03:25AM)
No. I haven't heard any report of him being in New Zealand [down near Australia]. I'd love to meet him personally. I guess he's out touring and making money instead of sitting in front of a computer writing to us at present.
Message: Posted by: manal (Dec 13, 2008 03:16PM)
Been almost 2 months, should we be concerned for his safety?
I hope he is well.
Message: Posted by: TheAmbitiousCard (Dec 13, 2008 03:51PM)
I called him and left a message. Have not heard back.
Message: Posted by: Dynamike (Dec 13, 2008 08:18PM)
Frank, let us know as soon as possible when you hear from him.
Message: Posted by: sir real (Dec 15, 2008 08:40AM)
The last posts he made indicated he was busking in Amsterdam. Any Amsterdam buskers on this forum?
Message: Posted by: AaronishMagic (Jan 1, 2009 02:06PM)
Cellini is got a video on this subject
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Jan 21, 2009 05:48PM)
Well I had a close one.

I can't talk about it right now but I will be posting later.

my communication is limited right now, please be patient.

oh yeh and buy my book!

thanks for all the concern.

I'll tell you all about it later.

I have a good reason for not staying in touch.

thanks again for all the concern.

your pal jimmy.
Message: Posted by: Dave V (Jan 21, 2009 07:03PM)
We're glad you're back and safe, whatever the reason.
Message: Posted by: mmreed (Jan 21, 2009 09:41PM)
Good to hear you are ok Jimmy. We were all concerned.

Looking forward to having you back and posting...
Message: Posted by: sdmagic (Jan 21, 2009 10:25PM)
Welcome Back Jimmy! Its great to hear you are ok. See you soon.

sdmagic
Message: Posted by: Dynamike (Jan 22, 2009 02:37AM)
Jimmy, check out how worried we were about you: http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=289824&forum=6&41
Message: Posted by: MagiCol (Jan 24, 2009 02:42AM)
Welcome back, Jimmy. I'm glad to see you posting again. All the best. Great advice in your book. Regards.
Message: Posted by: mrsmiles (Jan 26, 2009 06:32AM)
[quote]
On 2008-09-12 05:42, jimmy talksalot wrote:

...with this it is no wonder that the american public feels like a street performer is a con or another sales pitch.

Every single layman I have ever talked to has the same complaint about street performers, they say,
"I hate when a performer makes me wait and wait and wait before he does the trick and then it´s not that big of a deal, it feels like a scam."

Then what´s worse is all the "performer" does is nag for money all through his "show" while providing amateur skills and with little to no theater.

there are also many performers who do not do this and the people would never have these complaints about them...

your pal jimmy
[/quote]

I've joined this thread very late and have a question about this particular part (quoted above). I understand that Jimmy himself may not be able to post a reply immediately but until then can anyone respond to me? BTW, I find Jimmy's views helpful as well as heartfelt and I am a fan, not a critic.
How do you address and deal with what's quoted above? My specific query put another way is this: HOW does one square the views above with the street performers need to get the the audience to stay until the end so that they can make a contribution to the hat at the end? Do you not HAVE to ask them to hang on to the end of the show and also inform them DURING the show that they have the opportunity to pay? What alternative strategies do you/Jimmy have - how do you go about it?
Message: Posted by: Paddy (Jan 26, 2009 07:45AM)
When I first started to busk, everyone I knew or met had the same response when I answer the question "What do you do for a livig?" I explained that I am a magician and they asked
where do you perform?" When I said "on the street, anyplace I can draw a crowd."

The response weas always; "you mean like the homeless guys down at the stadium?"
(I live in Cincinnati and we have stadiums for the Reds and the Bengals where the homeless panhandle before all the games.)

They could not believe that someone could actually entertain and make a living busking. Then when I bought a new car they couldn't figure out how a guy who "begs for a living" could get a new car. People are caught in the mindset of haveing to work for a company all your life until you retire. They can not grasp the freedom and excitement of our lifestyle.

Peter
Message: Posted by: bgh13mm (Jan 26, 2009 08:28AM)
Nice site and very good information. Thank you for making it available.It will me alot.
Message: Posted by: FunTimeAl (Jan 26, 2009 06:44PM)
[quote]
On 2009-01-26 07:32, mrsmiles wrote:
[quote]
On 2008-09-12 05:42, jimmy talksalot wrote:

...with this it is no wonder that the american public feels like a street performer is a con or another sales pitch.

Every single layman I have ever talked to has the same complaint about street performers, they say,
"I hate when a performer makes me wait and wait and wait before he does the trick and then it´s not that big of a deal, it feels like a scam."

Then what´s worse is all the "performer" does is nag for money all through his "show" while providing amateur skills and with little to no theater.

there are also many performers who do not do this and the people would never have these complaints about them...

your pal jimmy
[/quote]

I've joined this thread very late and have a question about this particular part (quoted above). I understand that Jimmy himself may not be able to post a reply immediately but until then can anyone respond to me? BTW, I find Jimmy's views helpful as well as heartfelt and I am a fan, not a critic.
How do you address and deal with what's quoted above? My specific query put another way is this: HOW does one square the views above with the street performers need to get the the audience to stay until the end so that they can make a contribution to the hat at the end? Do you not HAVE to ask them to hang on to the end of the show and also inform them DURING the show that they have the opportunity to pay? What alternative strategies do you/Jimmy have - how do you go about it?
[/quote]

I can pass the advice on to you that Kozmo gave to me: Keep your show very short while you are still new to the game. Bang out 10-15 minute shows for 5-20 people, do 8-10 shows (or more) a day. Make certain your show is ultra tight, and get to the finale quick.

Slow your show down once you learn how to manage a longer show with more play & audience participation.

That's all I know, and it's because I was given that advice. Kozmo's DVD is FULL of GREAT advice for the sidewalk worker.
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Jan 26, 2009 06:45PM)
Valid question.

the idea is to put out a show that is worth paying for.

a show where people forget how long they've been watching and want to see more even when your done.

talent. complete originality.

not hustling a con.

some of the WORST performers in the world ARE MAKING REALLY BIG BUCKS, but they are not improving our art form. great hustlers terrible entertainers, they fool themselves into thinking their good by their income.....like mcdonalds makes a better burger then anyone else cuz it sells so many.

show the audience that what you do is valuable by doing good work.

once they realize that what they are watching is good then ask for the money that's justifiable.

but to do a 30 min clap and cheer and then show the cups or a jacket and do it mediocre your killing all the other entertainers out there when you should be working a "real job" some where.

this is the worst problem in the busking world.

I've actually watched a guy get booed and have walk offs and at the end walked over to me and showed off his hat and told me how great of a performer he was because he made a decent hat.

remember you entertaining people not selling time share or running a pyramiad scam.

humility is the key.

don't try and hide the fact that you suck.....try and correct it.

your pal jimmy
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Jan 26, 2009 06:46PM)
Also I am not sure of the quality of this post because of what's goin on in my life right now.

so I would suggest you buy my book.
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Jan 26, 2009 07:28PM)
After reading chads plug there I just remembered a performer who epitimizes what I'm refering to here.

his methods of crowd building was to hound every single person to stop literally grabbing them and using loud and foul language. he wore trashy clothes that never gave you the feeling he was an entertainer.

people felt like they were doing him a favor watching, and they looked frightened and disinterested. while he did horrible slieght of hand.

in fact there is some footage of him on an instructional video where his audience is pointing out where he is hiding his palmed coins...painful to watch, any way, at the end of his shows he would literally ridicule people for not giving larger bills and threaten them to give him more under the guise that he may just be kidding. in reality he appeared threatning and baligerent and trashy.....and saddly not in a good way ;}

I remember just after he verbally bludgened and embarassed a man to give him a five instead of a one he turned to me and told me this is how I should be doing it.

he has I hope become the opposite of me my friends and the cellini school of thought.

any way I remember how this same guy would try and convince me that he was a great entertainer because of the money he was making.......but I knew better....i saw his show.

I avoided his instruction to my success, but have been careful not to hurt his instructional trade for busking out of respect for his rank amongst my peers.

just the same I would think it a good idea for everyone to keep thier eyes open for this sort of thing to avoid.



my point is not to cause bad feelings.


my point is to see the difference and choose good form.
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Jan 26, 2009 07:36PM)
One last thing.

get out and see different acts so that you can better judge whos good and whos not.

then you'll know how good you should be.

and

be able to advise others on who is credable and who is not.
Message: Posted by: Kozmo (Jan 26, 2009 07:52PM)
Who you talking about jimmy?
:)

kz
Message: Posted by: manreb (Jan 26, 2009 09:02PM)
Jimmy


I just found this thread. I visited your site and can only say thank you.

It is interesting that the person you just described is usually the escape artist, magician. A good street magician is, as you say entertaining, enjoyable, personable etc.


Thanks for the site.
Message: Posted by: Mario Morris (Jan 27, 2009 04:33AM)
Hi Jimmy
I think your satements hear are very vague, I have been around for some time working the streets. I must addmit for the most part I have not seen what you are talking about. I have seen crap performers come and go but they don't survive long on the streets of UK all europe for that matter because their crap. As far as I can remember it has always been that way. Performer trys but dies, they may hang around for a while but aventually. Shame you did not make it to Spain I was hoping to meet you. Any way I am glad your safe you had us all worried. I even asked a few freands to look out for you in Holland.
Mario
Message: Posted by: Danny Hustle (Jan 27, 2009 09:00AM)
I agree with you Mario, I've never seen a crap act make 'real' money. I know when I had a crap act (and when I started out my act was total crap) I couldn't make money even though I was on one of the best pitches in the world. I've also never seen anyone get booed by an audience and then make money from them. I've seen acts get booed and people walk off shaking their heads, but I've never seen one make money while being booed.

The acts that I have seen make money are the ones who have their audience laughing and oohing and ahhing. They are also the ones who connect with their audiences and enjoy a shared experience. When they audience comes up to put money in the hat after the show they are all smiling and laughing and thank the performer. I've never seen anyone berate an audience into putting money in the hat and then get a substantial hat.

I have seen guys berate (or shame)an audience into putting money in the hat and these same performers get a much smaller hat that anyone else. To that performer, it may seem that the hat was big, and maybe that is what Jimmy is talking about. I dunno.

Anybody I've seen who makes what I would call 'real' money on the street always receives it from a happy audience, with a thank you as well.

I think that's a pretty fair gauge of how you are doing on the street. When the members of the audience begin to come up to you after a show and start thanking you, complimenting you, and telling you what they liked about your show, you know you are connecting with them .

I know one of the best tips I ever got was from a group of high school kids. In my show I used to do a joke about how much I loved the canoles from an Italian bakery called Mike's that was a couple of blocks from my pitch. One day after a show these four smiling high school kids come up to me proudly carrying a box tied with string and presented it to me. Two of the kids were girls and they were literally bouncing up an down with excitement. "What is this?" I asked. When I opened it there were four (still chilled) Canolies from Mikes. I looked at them and we all cracked up. We then sat on a bench in Marketplace center and split a couple of the canolies. People don't do stuff like that unless they really enjoyed your show. :)

Best,

Dan-

P.S. Jimmy, glad you're back man!
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Jan 27, 2009 10:47AM)
Mario.

sorry I was vague.

just because you know the method or system to make money does not mean that this system will also make you talented....just ask the back street boys.

I watched 8 identical clone shows {word for word} acts back to back in covent garden.

carbon copies of gazzos acts except not funny, vulgar and riddled with hostility.

all day they worked magic corner hogging the corner from other workers, every day except when gazzo showed up one day, then they all took the day off.

they are painful to watch, go see for your self, yet they still made good hats using the money methods they had learned from the teachers who focus on that.

besides gazzo being mad[for obvious reasons], when I was there paul and james james, pepe, kenny light foot and there is a slew of other performers who have worked there that can vouch for this were complaining, but yes for the most part euope sees less of it.

but here in the states where everyone is in the business business it's rampant.

in amsterdam I saw the worst case of this I've ever seen, ironically he even had a student.

he would clap and cheer the people for 30 mins and finally get a big crowd on the dam {square} and did a torn and restore managing to even mess that up then he did a jacket that was boring, long, and almost complete exposed the method.

he was a guy who also got booed and people were complaining he was taking to long. he was always on drugs.

he has been working for 7 years, he felt obligated to tell my friend taffy that he was performing wrong......taffy from london as everyone knows is a world class act.

this is not necessarily critisizing clap and cheer and or the money method this is criticizing a lack of quality.

the mentality that large hats means your talented has created this justification.

by the way these hacks are not goin to show up at your school or read my book because they think think they are already doing it right.

on the point of not being able to tell the difference.

a student of one of the covent garden clones saw me and some friends performing in barcelona and said we were the best he'd ever seen and asked to be a student. he always made good money but he couldn't compete with talent until we showed him.

by the time he learned how to really perform he was angry that he had wasted his time back ion london witht hose guys.

if a person starting out has never seen talent and only some one using the money method they will assume that is talent.

the leader of the clones told me money was the most important thing and he couldn't focus on being more talented that's why he copied gazzo's show.

he has been doing this for 5 years now.


if your head is caught up with, "making a big hat means you did everything right", please disregard this post I'm tired of trying to explain.

it doesn't matter any way a person who strives to be an artist will strive regardless.
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Jan 27, 2009 11:10AM)
I am not saying that acts that make money are bad.

I'm saying that, acts that are bad, are bad, even if they have figured out how to get payed.

as far as "real money".....everyone judges what that is differently.
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Jan 27, 2009 12:06PM)
By the way on the flip side I have personally in my experiments on the streets done a bad show on purpuse to see if I could still get payed.....funny enough I made more.

I felt horrible afterwards, and was critisized by my peers. at no point did I feel like I was an entertainer, I felt like I was back as a salesman using high pressure tactics and sales tricks to make money.

I have tryed this experiment a number of times to make my point to other entertainers.

it is difficult to make that point on a forum. I truly believe if me you and danny were on the pitch together the blatant naked realitity would show itself.

another thing is that these clones at covent garden claim they are better then gazzo because they make more money....even if this was true, which it ain't! would that make them better?
Message: Posted by: Danny Hustle (Jan 27, 2009 12:07PM)
I agree that bad acts are bad and that's why I even took money out of the equation. I believe that an even better indicator than money (because money is after all relative) is when you have a large part of your audience coming up to you after the show and thanking you and complimenting you regardless of how much they put in the hat. I think we all agree that if your audience likes you you are doing something right. They do not do that with bad acts. they might stick a buck in their hat out of pity but they are not smiling or talking to the guy.

I also agree with the statement about clones. In magic as well as juggling shows it seems that a lot of guys are just doing a variation of the same show. I know in magic I see a lot of Gazzo and Sonny Holiday/Cellini wannabees. Tough to call yourself good when more than half of your act belongs to somebody else.

Some of these guys are calling themselves "original" too and it cracks me up. I've worked a lot with both Gazzo and Sonny and to me the clones stand out like a sore thumb. I saw one guy on youtube even doing Sonny's poses during his show! This guy also always brags on the internet about what an artist he is and how anybody that makes money is a commercial hack. It's all pretty funny stuff.

Instead of focusing on that, I think it makes more sense to focus on what I can do to make my act better and more original. A guy wants to do somebody elses act and call himself an artist that's his business, I don't approve but they usually burn themselves out pretty quick when they get around acts that really are good. Sitting here talking about the other guy and how bad he is and how great somebody else is in my opinion is just as non productive.

I still don't think there are all that many "bad" acts that are making what I would call 'real' money, but I've never been to covent garden.

Best,

Dan-
Message: Posted by: Kondini (Jan 27, 2009 12:12PM)
Jimmy you hit it on the head,,,Covent garden clones 100% correct, been there, worn the T shirt (Crazy when there are far better pitches, Leytonstone, Middlesex Street and Kempton Park)All within the London area. Just like in Bath and Salisbury,,everyone seems to want to fight over the same pitch,,when both Cities are open and places to work are everywhere.

To put the record straight,,,it wasn`t me you saw on Dam square (I moved up nearer the Station and did far better without any hassel).

Keep on telling it as it is.

Ken.
Message: Posted by: gallagher (Jan 27, 2009 01:16PM)
Hey Jimmy, nice that you're back. It's enjoyible reading and sharing your perspectives.

What I've learned, that might be helpful here; is that we "street artist/performers" are an extremely independent,.. extremely self-, hmmmmm,... self-centered performer. We have to be. It's part of our survival nature. When it comes to `the moment'; we're out there alone. With a "cloned show",.. an original bit,..Art,.. Trash,.. whatever. No mattered what we're doing, we're standing alone.

Because of this, it's very difficult for most of us to hear, "It should be done like this, or like this,.. or like this." It's difficult to hear. It's even more difficult to swallow, "You're doing that wrong." ,.. no matter how true it may be!

Because of this hyper-sensitivity (justifyible!); crititique, I believe, could be shared thru different means. Stories, and experiences. They're easier to eat. Easier the agree with. Easier to annalize. Less stress.

I think You, as a teacher, has a lot to say; a lot of thoughts, a lot of experience,... wisdom. Maybe your methods, our methods (!) of sharing it could change a bit, making it easier for the fragile egos,... that we all have.

I think what Danny said, "focusing on our own act", is also very, very important. What are WE doing?,.. Why? (At the same time, this is an advanced stage. Who starts on the streets, with these thoughts in there mind?!? How many come so far!??!! But,.. it's where we ALL end up,.... on the road of `becoming'.)

The road can be a lonely one,.. but those are always the best ones to play on, aren't they!

Take care Jimmy.
gallagher
Message: Posted by: TheAmbitiousCard (Jan 27, 2009 05:37PM)
It took my years to start focusing on my own show, my own way. It takes a while before you realize that's the right way to do things.

There may be a lot of clones, and maybe a lot of clones that get money, but you won't find a real satisfaction until a crowd is laughing and clapping for YOUR act, and not someone else.

If someone is doing their own act, they are heading in the right direction. Until then, they're just treading water.
Message: Posted by: deadcatbounce (Jan 27, 2009 05:44PM)
Jimmy,

Sadly, I have to agree with you about the Covent Garden clones - I've mentioned it on here before, but not perhaps quite as brutally as you put it.

They inspired me. Their derivative and completely un-original performances went down pretty well with the crowds, which is why they're still there.

One of them came within about 2 seconds of being punched out for his hostile manner. (by me). He saw the look on my face and backed RIGHT off.. I was talking to one of the other better guys later on, (his own show, his own style) and he agreed. He said he usually pulled that sort of stuff with women because he knew he was safe .. He overstepped the mark with me. Can't remember his name, red jeans and a red hat and obnoxious. Humiliates the (female) punters. He'll know who he is. He's a disgrace to street performers.
When I say they inspired me - I KNOW I can do better than that. With my OWN banter. "Is that your wife sir, or are you on a business trip?" may be funny the first time around, but, like you say.. over and over and over and over and over.. "You can take your parachute off now, Sir, you've landed..." blah bloody blah..on and on and on and on.. clone after clone...I mean... get your OWN F*****g act, you lazy, unimaginative toss pots!

They need to be taken to one side and have their a***s severely kicked, one after the other. Then, they need to be horse whipped.

Then, if they still insist on stealing lines, they need to be keel-hauled.

After that, if they insist on not behaving properly, they need to be stuck in the stocks and have rotten fruit thrown at them for periods of not less than 16 hours a day.
This may SEEM harsh - but it's better than letting them loose to breed.

In the animal world, their parents would eat them. And that would be that.

Just my thoughts...

DCB
Message: Posted by: FunTimeAl (Jan 27, 2009 05:49PM)
Great post DCB! I couldn't agree more with ya.

I do think it's funny though...that you ended it with a worn out, borrowed quote!
ROFLMAO!!!!

ahhh...snicker...that was funny though...(sniff)...wheeze
Message: Posted by: TheAmbitiousCard (Jan 27, 2009 05:59PM)
What would we do without Chad.
Message: Posted by: deadcatbounce (Jan 27, 2009 06:38PM)
Chad, you ********... :)

You know... and you can check on this... I've NEVER ended with "just my thoughts" EVER before..
Maybe this sort of thing is catching? You think that's possible? By watching clones, you actually catch CLONE FEVER?

A bit like U2 and their new single sounding JUST LIKE "Pump it Up" by Elvis Costello?

Chad.. sounds to me like you're a bit poorly..with your sniffing and wheezing.. hope you're not CATCHING anything! :)
Are you serious about attending the Mario gig in Cardiff?
I'm trying to get booked in, as I'll be in the Uk around then, and it's too good to miss....

Regards, all

DCB
Message: Posted by: FunTimeAl (Jan 27, 2009 06:48PM)
Yeah, I'm going to Cardiff. It'd be good to meet you. Lucky for me I have a 100% original show!
Message: Posted by: deadcatbounce (Jan 27, 2009 07:16PM)
Chad,

How do you feel about getting up and performing in front of a bunch of secrets merchants and line grabbers?
Because,,, that's what you may have to do.
The global situation regards travel, means that your script could be round the world as standard in 30 days.

How you like that idea?

Said DCB, clearly thinking about his own position...

DCB
Message: Posted by: FunTimeAl (Jan 27, 2009 07:28PM)
For a small town 1-pitch guy like me...doesn't really make a difference. This will most likely be the one time I travel to street perform. So unless the "Chad Ballyhoo" clones of the future happen to decend upon Ohio, I'll be safe.

That being said, my show isn't all that easy to steal either.

For starters, you'd need the balance of a stilt walker, decent wand spin dexterity, the ability to juggle knives, wicked good looks, the lung capacity to mouth inflate balloons, and have a fairly decent pain tolerance.

If you have all that in the bag, then my show is easy though. ;)
Message: Posted by: TheAmbitiousCard (Jan 27, 2009 07:48PM)
[quote]
On 2009-01-27 20:28, Chad wrote:
For starters, you'd need the balance of a stilt walker, decent wand spin dexterity, the ability to juggle knives, wicked good looks, the lung capacity to mouth inflate balloons, and have a fairly decent pain tolerance.
[/quote]
woah, neat, yikes, nice!, awesome, ouch!
Message: Posted by: deadcatbounce (Jan 27, 2009 08:44PM)
Chad,

In that case... why not put the two grand towards a holiday?

Looks like you got it all sewn up, what with your good looks, high pain threshold, your big ol' stilts, your glove puppets, your extra large lungs, your ability to mimick the late, great Jimmy Durante and Gene Kelly on stilts, your synchronised swimming, and your fantastic Wall of Death motorbike show, not forgetting your three hour soot juggling extravaganza...

We could do with a few of you in Ireland.

:)
:)

Ho- ho!!!


Cheers!
DCB
Message: Posted by: FunTimeAl (Jan 28, 2009 05:16AM)
Glove puppet?!?! I never thought of using them...hmm




...hey, you don't mind if I borrow that idea do ya?
Message: Posted by: Mario Morris (Jan 28, 2009 05:32AM)
Great Chad and DCB
When your both in Cardiff I provide you the stocks and you can all kick my ass I love the Parachute line. Any way Gazzo nicked that from me.
Mario
Message: Posted by: Mario Morris (Jan 28, 2009 07:01AM)
Hi all before Christmas in Anderlucia I meet Keiichi Iwasaki from Japan. At first I sore him with a small crowd around him. He dressed poorly his back drop was his bike He did not have an overwelming charater or an increable magic show. He had a great smile one of humillity he caught my eye and I watched him. I think many other buskers may have just walked passed him without giving him a secound look. He did a linking ring routeen, small rings, then napkin tricks multplying balls, disapearing silks, he then made a mouse from his napkin that became his finale. Then he sart agin real worker, but he had a humble presence. His magic was not earth shatering but fun and entertaining well polished. I enjoyed this watching him because he was one man and his bike, no politics but the freedom of the road. We eneded up talking and I found him to be very delightfull. He is cycling around the World, he left Japan in 2005 and plans to cycle around the world while busking pays for his trip. He has set ten years aside to do this. We sat down drinking tea as he showed news paper artical after photo clip. The many sunsets he enjoyed, the beautifull pepole he had met
He told me about bandits holding him at gun point on three seperate ocasions while cycerling through the middle/far east. They wanted a small bribe each time to let him pass. It was only untill he hit Europe did they steal his bike. I got an email from just before Christmas saying they stole his bike agian.
I have full faith in Keiichi Iwasaki to conpleate his jouerney as long as know one stops him. One thing that may stop him is poltics local all global. What I learned from this man is don't get caught up with poltics of streets that will just rob you of living the life.
Mario
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Jan 28, 2009 10:28AM)
I think this school mario and gazzo are throwing would be best thing for our american performers to do.

they would get an artistic lesson not available to my knowledge in this country and they would learn how to make the money they need to support themselves and families YET provide a quality performance.

I would suggest that if you have the ability to do this you should.

it has been my experience that when an american performer goes to europe most of the time they come back good, real good. put this with having the abilty to be trained by some of the best in the business.

my only worry is that some hard headed numb skulls will still not be able to know the difference between "copying" and working with permission and changing the material into something more original yet continuing the tradition of the teachers work.

my second worry is that some american workers may not be honest with themselves and block out working on their talent and focusing on their money making skills.

yet regardless of my opinions and worry even if everything goes wrong this would still be the greatest thing that could happen to the american magician since cellini was here instructing.

if your not going to this and you consider yourself a serious busker I would hope it is because you have one heck of a reason that prevents you from doing so.

chad I especially think this would be great for you, but I would also suggest you travel about europe if you can to see as many buskers as possible.

it has been my hope for a long time that you would be able to see the other side of the opinion first hand working in a more successful manner.

it is certain that gazzo over the years has focused on the big pitch and the big hat when instructing his students or others, but in my humble opinion he has an extrordinary amount of knowledge in our work and history, I know this first hand having talked to him and his students.....but it should seem obvious that his act speaks for it self.

the guy is pure talent at no point do people feel like he is stalling or badgering them.....and this of course is my point.

once again my humble opinion, he has been doing this a lot longer then me and doing it better.

at any rate many people have learned from him and failed to learn that side of him and I hope this wont be the case again.

if your an american busker please go.
Message: Posted by: FunTimeAl (Jan 28, 2009 11:52AM)
Thanks for the encouragement/support Jimmy. I appreciate it. I'll at least be able to hang out in London for a couple of days after the school & perhaps hop over to Paris & surrounding areas for a week after that.

Just depends on how much $ I can amass before the trip. I don't plan on living off my street performing while there...I'm not close enough to being that good.
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Jan 28, 2009 02:03PM)
Buskerb,

loved this post.

I love blunt.

breath of fresh air.

it's honest.

believe me your reservations about forums are based on fact....i'm sorry.

fortunately the magic Café is one of the best ones in my opinion.

most of the youtube stuff is all just what it looks like, me experimenting with stuff. mostly "pat" material and some from my teachers.

I can't say I am all that good, there are much better performers out there no question.

I have taken the time to try and engulf myself in this work and see as many acts as I could.

europe definately improved my show and footing as you say, no question.

it also enabled me to try more stuff because the crowds were more patient and interested in busking.

europe seems to give you a better understanding that what we are doing is normal, a real job, and that we are artists and very important to our societies.

the states I think helped the footing of my character which I don't feel has been intirely expressed on youtube as much as I would like.

I play a fool a very american fool with very american humur in my opinion.

my show in real life is tight and with a rythm of its own.

I am honestly embarassed to speak this way about myself but I feel it might be necassary to speak up for the work in order to give credability to the book.

it may be of better benifit to ask those who have seen my work.

also some pitches work better then others for an entertainers show.
the idea of course is to try and find the one that best suits your show and milk it...or keep traveling with a show that is more liquid.

please see my blog;

jimmytalksalot.blogspot.com

you can buy my book here;

http://www.leapinglizardsmagic.com/csspages/css_lure_with_spectacle.htm


as far as the book being slapped together, remember it was written by a busker speaking to buskers and would be buskers not to the usuall clientel of genii magazine.

just the same even though I have not read the review myself I am very flattered they even took the time to review it.

I do feel it is unfortunate the more credable writers in our industry have not written what is common knowledge and crucial to being a magician....leaving me to slap it together as it were.

I am refering to the second subject in the book after busking and titled "our mysterious society."

I have recieved very good reviews on the forums and by buskers around the world....but I would suggest you read it.

one last thing I would value your review of it very much after reading your blunt honest post.

your pal jimmy.
Message: Posted by: Hawkan (Jan 28, 2009 02:06PM)
Chad, you´re welcome to Sweden as well.

Håkan
:wavey:
Message: Posted by: Mario Morris (Jan 29, 2009 03:26AM)
Thanks Jimmey
I am very much looking forward to the School of Busking. I don't consider my self as a master or one of the best. Instead I consider it as great pleasuer to work alone side a Master like Gazzo.I do consider my self as a real worker. I have run the School of Busking twice befor but on my own. This corse is diffrent to what Gazzo or I have done before. This is not a Gazzo cup and ball workshop, it is about the student. Gazzo will be covering C&B but that is not the main purpose of the corse we both will cover a whole lot more.

Having Gazzo on board has rasied the expectations through the roof which I am pleased about. I have been a student of Gazzo in the past and I can say he is a great teacher and a top guy. By conbining both Gazzo and my self you will get a well balanced veiw of street performing. Gazzo a Master who works the streets, festavels and a lot, lot more and my self. I look for the freedom of the road, I seek to work where no man has worked before. For me street performing is a life style far more than just my job.
every thing I don revoles around my SP. I don't care for street politics or sharing a pitch, first come first served is my ideal. don't get me wrong I do and will share pitches, that is when it is the norm for that pitch for exampe C Garden or the Edinburg Fringe so on. I look for markets that have to be broken into. Over the years I have developed versatile methods of working both the streets, markets and festavels. This experiance is what I am not going to hold back on. I guess I am old school in life. I have taken to my motor home instead of a plane. I don't wear a watch, I don't want a tv. I had plastic in my pocket for less than three mounths, scarey thing, my hat is my main provider, if I don't busk I don't eat. So no holding back you got Gazzo a master performer and teacher and you got me. A worker, I lean on the simpisty of magic. I work with props from dippy duck to SJ escapes. While performing my aim is to entertian and create magic, comedy, moments and then I pass my hat. I am a traverler a busker and I live a nomadic life because that is what I was born to do their is nothing else I can or want to do, I hope you willlearn from my experiances as I teach alone side a Master.
Mario
Message: Posted by: mrsmiles (Jan 29, 2009 08:12AM)
[quote]
On 2009-01-26 19:45, jimmy talksalot wrote:
Valid question.

the idea is to put out a show that is worth paying for.
a show where people forget how long they've been watching and want to see more even when your done.
talent. complete originality.
...show the audience that what you do is valuable by doing good work.
once they realize that what they are watching is good then ask for the money that's justifiable.....

your pal jimmy
[/quote]

Thank you Jimmy for replying directly to my post (and to Chad). I am taking it to mean on the issue of when and how you ask for a contribution to the hat that one does not lay on exhortations to contribute to the hat too thickly, too soon, or too repeatedly to the audience. That one should first give them something good to watch! (I also note the points about being good/original/not a clone) I would assume also that Jimmy's view when you get round to plugging the hat asking for the money that you don't do it too forcefully. That there should be some restraint shown..
To Chad... if I go busking soon (I have been a close up magician for 25 years and stand up magician for 10... but not full time with either), I may well start in busking as you suggest.... Instead of 1x 30 minute show I'll experiment with 2x 15 minute shows (though I'm hoping my experience will mean I can progress quickly to the 30-minute show).

Again, thanks to all for a very interesting thread. Lots of very good advice and viewpoints from very many.
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Jan 29, 2009 02:36PM)
Mrsmiles,


glad you injoyed the post,

I hope these questions can give you a good feel about what I'm saying.

is the trick that I am doing good? is it fooling everyone?
are my jokes really funny? are my skills at magic, juggling, what ever, really good?

IF SO, HOW DO I KNOW THESE THINGS? ARE MY SOURCES RELIABLE?

do the people not care how the magic is actually done or it's secret, because my performance is so strong, the plot and story are so attractive that they are too engulfed in it to even have any time to be thinking about any thing other then my performmance.

would my act compete with something that somebody would actually travel or pay to see? or on television? the cinema?


in my opinion you could badger the people for money if they loved you doing it! if it fit the character! probably as a running joke with a final serious request at the end.

one last thing.

a performer should use humility and disipline in constructing their work,

when a person sucks they should not try and hide it but correct it.

they should not settle for something that has finally managed to make a few or a bundle of bucks BUT SHOULD STRIVE FOR WORK THAT IS ETERNAL.

EG W.C.FIELDS, CHARLIE CHAPLIN, george carl, cardini, lance Burton[as a current example], dai vernon......WE STILL KNOW THESE NAMES.

and will know them in the future for many years to come not just because of there marketing skills {which obviously is a factor but not my point} but because of the quality and fanatism that went into their work. dai vernon being the most obvious and exagerated illustration here.
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Jan 29, 2009 11:33PM)
Jimmy:

I agree with you wholeheartedly about the concept of what gets the most money may not necessarily be the most original and/or the most skilful performer.

During the 26 years I worked at the Texas Renaissance Festival and other similar venues, I saw a lot of acts come and go. Some were very talented and original and got a lot of money.

The one that got the most money was an act that shall be unnamed. Those who know the RenFaire circuit will know the act. While the act was original, the skill involved with it was marginal. Most of it consisted in the captivation that a pseudo-vent figure provided. The operator's head was covered, so he did not need to have any technique at all.

His act consisted basically of hounding the audience for money. His finale at one particular point in his career consisted in sending two people down the aisles of his stage area with garbage sacks to see which one would gather the most money.

I don't know how much he made. However, based on what I know about the seating at the theatre he was working, he couldn't have possibly made less than $500 a show. Do the math -- $500 a show for four shows a day. Darn good money.

A friend of mine suggested that I come up with a similar gimmick. I couldn't do it. I didn't feel it was right.

Maybe that's just me.
Message: Posted by: Mario Morris (Jan 30, 2009 04:05AM)
Hay Jimmy
don't forget Tommy Copper, the Master of opps, I glad you mentioned CHARLIE CHAPLIN perhaps Laurel and Hardy and Harold loyed. These where my child hood heros. I had posters and postcards of them on my wall as a kid. These guys where masters of making the simple look great. Take Tommy Copper and his and his egg bag routine or his Martini Bottle routine. No Magician whould be able to get away with that at his local club. Why could Tommy, he was a master clown, ken Dod what a nutter, off his bloody head but hero to thousands of Brits. Now their approach to magic very sloopy often reavealing but very, very funny and extreamly entertaining. Tommy Copper could go to the local joke shop during the day and perform with what he bought their that night. I love this kind of stuff, I love British Humor, I love performer that alow the clown in them to make an appeariance. Clowning around is a very inportant acept to street thearter. Visual comedy, a stair, a smile, a move, a bump. I use to love how Tommy could go on stage with out a word, trick nothing other than a cough and the pepole would laugh.
Just like that.
Mario
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Feb 3, 2009 10:46PM)
I would also like to mention since I havn't for awhile that If you wanna learn how to street perform I have a book out and a free instructional blog;

jimmytalksalot.blogspot.com

check it out.

and good luck y'all at the school for those of you that are going.
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Feb 10, 2009 01:00PM)
JohntheMagician

I have always been accused of being pushy, this made me a great salesman for many years. it has certainly helped me as a street performer.

before I made the leap to go full time as an entertainer everyone told me that there was no way to make a living at it and that I needed a "real job" and that busking or performing was just a hobby with no money in it.

listening to this advice cost me a lot of money, years doing jobs I didn't want to do and cost me a marriage.

please see; "real job" in my blog.

my feelings are that if I "push" one person WHO WAS BORN TO BE A PRO into making the leap and alienate those thousands who were not born to be a pro, so be it.

THIS IS NOT TO SAY that I do not appreciate those hobbiest part timers.

part timers are the lifes blood that keeps our industry afloat not just finacially but certainly CREATIVELY!

I have not ment to offend anyone at all and it is my belief that if you were to buy my book or at least read my blog that a person could definately get an understanding of were my head is at.

if you were born to be a part timer THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU HAVE DONE FOR OUR INDUSTRY,REALLY, THANK YOU!

but I would like to say that the idea that one cannot support themselves or their families as an entertainer is false.

it is a lifes lesson I had to learn the hard way and now I am gonna preach it from the mountain tops for all those going through the same dilema.

the key is; information, education and application.

and that's what I have been trying to do with the blog and the book.

I am sorry that my opinion hits a nerve or sticks in a craw, but I hope you can believe my heart is in the right place.

good luck in what ever endevors anyone chooses.

your pal jimmy.
Message: Posted by: Hawkan (Feb 11, 2009 12:54AM)
As a part timer, I have learned to more appreciate how good (the good..) pros really are, and how much time and effort it would take to get to that level. I just try to make my show so good that I don´t give the pros a bad reputation, that´s where I´m at. And I have a constant bad conscience for not having a more unique character... but working on it.

And John, without us part timers, our audiences wouldn´t have anything to compare with when seeing a really good pro. Like in a marathon, all the thousands of runners defining the winner and how good he is.

Håkan
:wavey:
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Feb 11, 2009 09:13PM)
I'm thankful for the constant flow of new material coming from part timers dreaming new stuff up all the time.

and also all the help I have recieved from them in all aspects of life. their other jobs have certainly come in handy for me when I was in desperate need of a service outside the magic industry.

it has certainly widen my range of friends that I can trust and that understand my special circumstances.

and also I am embarassed to say have helped me hugely when I was down and out.
Message: Posted by: Dynamike (Feb 11, 2009 10:01PM)
Jimmy, when do you plan to be back in USA?
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Feb 13, 2009 12:01PM)
I'm back.
Message: Posted by: Dynamike (Feb 13, 2009 12:54PM)
Magic in da house. :)
Message: Posted by: SeaDawg (Feb 13, 2009 01:10PM)
Perhaps this thread re-enforces a very critical point...to get good you have to go out and do it, do it again, do it agian,do it again, and again, and again...

Figure out what works for you , work it and work on it.. then it will get better...

Hiding in your room in front of a mirror will never get the experience you need, and the hat don't lie, right Jimmy?
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Feb 13, 2009 01:56PM)
Right
Message: Posted by: G.Gilbert (Feb 14, 2009 12:03AM)
I hope one day my friends forget when I first started... I was just awful...
Message: Posted by: Faulkner (Feb 14, 2009 12:14AM)
I stll am awful.
Message: Posted by: SeaDawg (Feb 14, 2009 10:08AM)
And the only way to get better is real world practice in front of real world people who pay you ( or not) real world tips.
Perhaps one of the best lines in my show came as a pure accident... but the audience reaction made it a keeper and it is in my show now.

You don't get that feel hiding in your room with a mirror... like nike says... "Just do it"
Message: Posted by: bwarren3 (Feb 14, 2009 11:10AM)
Hey Jimmy,
I got motivated when I caught Dan's fantastic act in Boston about 5 years ago at Fanuil Hall. I was in Boston at one of Hank Lee's conclave functions and was also performing at the "Real" Cheers while I was there, love those business trips.
Dan really got me thinking about doing Street Magic..Then I saw Gazzo & Cellini and man was I hooked. Took my act out on the street and boy did I suck....no structured show for the street, act was way too long...did all the wrong things..
Started looking at The Café section on Buskers, checked out all of the great buskers here and some of the acts are like...no wonder they're doing such a great job, structured acts, making good money. Then I saw Kozmo and he slayed me...great stuff, very funny. Then I saw your act and I was completely blown away that no table, no pockets full of magic tricks, per se...but an incredible act that ENTERTAINED the audiences...Mario's stuff was music to the eyes....
SO I changed my act around to make this work. I always knew I could do this.
Now it's all I really want to do at every opportunity I get. Every new magician that I run into through the local clubs I try to teach them to go here, read your blog, get byour book, get Koz's video...get all of the Street Magic stuff you can find, read it, digest it and like you said so profoundly...Get off your butt and go do it......To all of the Great Buskers that have shared their thoughts and How-to's here and on their videos and books, we thank you because you all helped make us better....
Jimmy Your Book rocks, can't recommend it high enough....Kozmo's DVD is a work of art. Koz will be seeing you at Denny's Tues in MD. Finally!!!!
You guys have helped change my act for the better and for that I definitely Thank You..Gaddy the Table is done and I'll post pics...gotta go take the parrots out...
Bill
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Feb 16, 2009 01:40PM)
Thanks for the kind words.

I would also like to mention to all the new readers that If you wanna learn how to street perform I have a book out and a free instructional blog;

jimmytalksalot.blogspot.com

check it out.

WHILE EVERYONE IS LOSING THEIR JOBS AND THE ECONOMY IS FALLING APART, US BUSKERS ARE STILL WORKING!

WHO'S GOT THE REAL JOB NOW? HA!

and good luck y'all at the school in europe that mario and gazzo are thowing for those of you that are going.

I just heard cellini is supposed to be there!
Message: Posted by: G.Gilbert (Mar 30, 2009 12:53AM)
[quote]
On 2009-02-16 14:40, jimmy talksalot wrote:

WHILE EVERYONE IS LOSING THEIR JOBS AND THE ECONOMY IS FALLING APART, US BUSKERS ARE STILL WORKING!

WHO'S GOT THE REAL JOB NOW? HA!
[/quote]

Amen. I'm noticing a lot ofthis lately...

We are recession proof..
Message: Posted by: gaddy (Mar 30, 2009 01:58AM)
Bill,

sounds great and you're just in time for the spring/summer! You're gonna rock out there...
Message: Posted by: ed rhodes (Mar 30, 2009 04:58AM)
[quote]
On 2009-03-30 01:53, G.Gilbert wrote:
[quote]
On 2009-02-16 14:40, jimmy talksalot wrote:

WHILE EVERYONE IS LOSING THEIR JOBS AND THE ECONOMY IS FALLING APART, US BUSKERS ARE STILL WORKING!

WHO'S GOT THE REAL JOB NOW? HA!

***

Amen. I'm noticing a lot ofthis lately...

We are recession proof..
[/quote]

Well, there's nobody to lay you off, is there? (I say "you" rather than "us" because I'm one of those "hobbyists" who isn't making a living off of this.)

OTOH, as I've seen from other posts by the pros on this board, some are complaining that the economy means smaller hats. Maybe "recession resistant" would be a better term! :confused:
Message: Posted by: ed rhodes (Mar 31, 2009 04:11AM)
[quote]
On 2009-01-28 08:01, Mario Morris wrote:
Hi all before Christmas in Anderlucia I meet Keiichi Iwasaki from Japan. At first I sore him with a small crowd around him. He dressed poorly his back drop was his bike He did not have an overwelming charater or an increable magic show. He had a great smile one of humillity he caught my eye and I watched him. I think many other buskers may have just walked passed him without giving him a secound look. He did a linking ring routeen, small rings, then napkin tricks multplying balls, disapearing silks, he then made a mouse from his napkin that became his finale. Then he sart agin real worker, but he had a humble presence. His magic was not earth shatering but fun and entertaining well polished. I enjoyed this watching him because he was one man and his bike, no politics but the freedom of the road. We eneded up talking and I found him to be very delightfull. He is cycling around the World, he left Japan in 2005 and plans to cycle around the world while busking pays for his trip. He has set ten years aside to do this. We sat down drinking tea as he showed news paper artical after photo clip. The many sunsets he enjoyed, the beautifull pepole he had met
He told me about bandits holding him at gun point on three seperate ocasions while cycerling through the middle/far east. They wanted a small bribe each time to let him pass. It was only untill he hit Europe did they steal his bike. I got an email from just before Christmas saying they stole his bike agian.
I have full faith in Keiichi Iwasaki to conpleate his jouerney as long as know one stops him. One thing that may stop him is poltics local all global. What I learned from this man is don't get caught up with poltics of streets that will just rob you of living the life.
Mario
[/quote]

...and invest in a really good bike lock!
Message: Posted by: G.Gilbert (Mar 31, 2009 04:30PM)
I doing better during recession Ed...

more ppl are lingerin about looking for an outlet other than the theatre, bars, nice resturaunts, etc... that stuff is too expensive.

its a beautiful thing

jimmys blog is great for anyone considering doing this for a living especially during these times..
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Apr 6, 2009 02:21PM)
I've also noticed that a lot of pitches are opening up due to businesses needing more draw to there shops.

in the down town area where I am living now in california the resteruants are asking the police to leave us alone.

some years ago the resteruant owners passed laws to bann us from the area. when I was working the cops came to shut me down and all these resteruant owners came out and defended me, the cops were angry because the owners were the ones to pass the laws. the owners told the cops that they NOW need us because of the recession and that we are the only thing working to bring people down town.


infact I am now working in an out door mall that for years was opposed to busking and even went so far as to make laws against it in the past, but now recently is even hosting busking festivals to try and attract more attention from tourists.
Message: Posted by: FunTimeAl (Apr 6, 2009 02:43PM)
Did somebody say Busking Festival?

Gimme a date Jimmy... ;)
Message: Posted by: gaddy (Apr 6, 2009 03:50PM)
Jimmy I thought you hated california!
Message: Posted by: gman (Apr 6, 2009 11:06PM)
Hey Jimmy, How is the second edition of the book coming along? That is if I remembered correctly that you said you were thinking of adding to the book.

GeorgeP
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Apr 13, 2009 10:40PM)
Yep I hate california no question but I love my kids and they are here.

the book is still being written sorry nothing yet.

the busker fest is here in san diego, I'll be on ch. 6 here tomarrow performing and talking about myself and my book for publicity for the fest on a show called san diego living.

by the way some folks here think I am marketing here, so I would like to tell everyone that the blog is free.

I have made $0 on the pouches it was all sent to cellini and I'm not sure if we will continue the line.

my book has made me what I make in a day on the streets no really. but it wasn't written to make money it was written to get a lot of the old guys opinions out there.

so if you think I am marketing here, I guess I'm a bad marketer I'm not making any money, but I'm making a lot of friends who have gotten the help they need and a lot of free stuff.

I make all my money on the streets. and I write here to try and help my peers.
Message: Posted by: Dynamike (Apr 13, 2009 10:43PM)
I really enjoy your first book. I can not wait for the second one to be published. Please keep us up to date.
Message: Posted by: JoeJoe (Apr 13, 2009 11:17PM)
[quote]
On 2009-04-06 15:21, jimmy talksalot wrote:
some years ago the resteruant owners passed laws to bann us from the area. when I was working the cops came to shut me down and all these resteruant owners came out and defended me, the cops were angry because the owners were the ones to pass the laws. the owners told the cops that they NOW need us because of the recession and that we are the only thing working to bring people down town.
[/quote]

It's funny how these things work themselves out like this.

-JoeJoe
Message: Posted by: gaddy (Apr 14, 2009 12:44AM)
Hey Jimmy - Jerry Salazar calls you [i]'Jimmy Ocelot'[/i]. I thought that was very cute. Don't take offense, he gets everyone's name wrong...
Message: Posted by: FunTimeAl (Apr 14, 2009 07:36AM)
I'd consider it an honor if Jerry Salazar had even heard of me...let alone felt the need to say my name in a sentence. "Chad Bally....who?" ;)

I'd love to meet that man one day. He's class through and through.
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Apr 24, 2009 06:34PM)
Jerry is a great guy and been doing this stuff for years.

I got him on my who's who of sidewalk performers blog.

I just put a bunch more guys on there and I am in the midst of adding more.

it is also a free site I am doing for those who are interested for education on busking and who's who and I am also trying to give credit to all those who have been doing it for so many years, but are not getting the credit so many t.v. magicians or more well ta-do performers get.

it's quite a job so if your not on there yet please be patient I'm trying to catch up with all of them.

here's the link.

http://sidewalkperformerswhoswho.blogspot.com/
Message: Posted by: Kozmo (Apr 24, 2009 10:47PM)
I wonder why I'm not on the talksalot site?

I'm a pretty good street performer, right?
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Apr 24, 2009 11:08PM)
Hmm this is dated nov 27 2007 so that means you've been there a long time.

http://sidewalkperformerswhoswho.blogspot.com/2007/11/kozmo.html

and I have sent you this link everytime you have said, "I wonder why I'm not on the talksalot site?"

everyone else has seen it. since 2007.

it's easy koz just click on the link
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Apr 24, 2009 11:27PM)
Your on all my blogs and even publihed in chapters in my book and thanked in the back of the book.

have you read my book? your in it.

the real question is why am I not apart of anything you have ever done. I'm not even mentioned, but I never thought anything about it till you posted this here.

I would love to be apart of your work, you have promised many times and even set dates, but it never seemed to ever happen. but that's alright thanks for all the offers, it gave me a chance to dream about how fun it would be.

koz it's good to hear from you. I hope your making a whole lot of money.

I hope you go to the link, I said a lot of nice things about you. but you'll never know till you click on it, or read my book ......well, you can lead a horse to water.

but for the everyone else who wanted to see the latest update here's the link;

http://sidewalkperformerswhoswho.blogspot.com/
Message: Posted by: Kozmo (Apr 25, 2009 05:03PM)
:)
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Apr 25, 2009 11:54PM)
Cat got your tongue?
Message: Posted by: Markymark (May 3, 2009 10:44AM)
I'd love to see a dvd of Jimmy talksalots work if possible Koz?

Really enjoyed your book Jimmy.
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (May 3, 2009 08:07PM)
I'm glad you liked the book, thanks. but the publisher really deserves a lot of the credit. they did a fine job putting it together inspite of my bad orginizational skills.

my publisher believes in me, and by the way he is definately one of the good ones out there, he has published a lot of important stuff by imortant people in our industry who might have been missed by other publishers.

and certainly not talking bad about other publishers I am just really proud to be apart of Leaping Lizards.

me and leaping lizards have also been tossing around an idea for a video, but it's too early to say.
Message: Posted by: fireperformer911 (May 3, 2009 09:56PM)
Jimmy

I have your book and have read it at least 8 times and it has been very helpful but a Video would be AWESOME and purchase it in a minute. So please Leaping Lizards and Jimmy make it happen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Message: Posted by: RobChapman (Jun 7, 2009 11:26AM)
Just wanted to say a great blog site Jimmy. Just started looking at street performance and your writings are not just informative but inspirational yet real.

Cheers
Message: Posted by: G.Gilbert (Jun 7, 2009 03:02PM)
Heyhey!

I heard a rumor that theres going to be a compilation of visual images demonstrating the teachings in Jimmys Blog/book .. it may even be starring the man himself!

:banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:
Message: Posted by: Alexander Wells (Jun 8, 2009 08:08AM)
I think you should do a DVD Jimmy.

I've got to say, before I saw mention of you on the Café, I saw you doing some stuff on Youtube (backyard goofing etc. ) and said to my friends "that's the kind of magic I like".
There's a purity to the effects you do. I especially liked the routine with the ball the hat and the wand. Great stuff. I'd buy a DVD if you made one.

Neal
Message: Posted by: marty.sasaki (Jun 8, 2009 10:54AM)
I disagree. Stick with the books. That way your material will be more exclusive and you will avoid having a bunch of folks doing exact copies of your routine. People will be forced to think about what they are doing...
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Jun 25, 2009 09:29PM)
These two things have been tearing at me.

ever since I saw all those clones of gazzo in covent garden I have been stressed about talentless people who can't figure out how to do a magic act that isn't like some one elses.

I'm thinking I may do a dvd where I talk a lot and do some routines, but not teach my routines, simply the show part.

maybe where I just show how to work magic with out teaching my routines.

the best is where some one sees a routine but NOT the explaination and is forced to figure out how they would do it and end up creating somehting else.

seeing a string of ideas if you will.

also I like the idea of teaching tricks in books because it scares hacks and clones that they may have to think.....or even worse yet read and imagine.

any way I am not intirely offended that people copy my work unless they do a bad job of it or they work the same pitch where I am working.

#1 is permission.

everthing I do I got permission or dreamed up or stumbled on myself,

I'm not bragging I'm suggesting this, because I think there are beginners out there, that simply are not aware of this value.

this also may be a big subject in the dvd and or next book. I may try and give instruction or suggestions on how to build an original act or how ask for permission when borrowing a routine or trick.

thanks for the interest sorry for taking so long to repsond.

here's a link to my free instructional blog for buskers.

http://jimmytalksalot.blogspot.com/
Message: Posted by: ed rhodes (Jun 29, 2009 12:14PM)
[quote]
On 2009-06-25 22:29, jimmy talksalot wrote:
These two things have been tearing at me.

ever since I saw all those clones of gazzo in covent garden I have been stressed about talentless people who can't figure out how to do a magic act that isn't like some one elses.

[/quote]

This is one of the reasons I never got Gazzo's routine. I know I would end up doing exactly what's in the routine and frankly you have to BE Gazzo to do what's in that routine!
Message: Posted by: gman (Jun 29, 2009 02:28PM)
[quote]
This also may be a big subject in the dvd and or next book. I may try and give instruction or suggestions on how to build an original act or how ask for permission when borrowing a routine or trick.
[/quote]

Now That Would Be A Book or DVD I Would Buy...Why...Cause I will admit I don't have one creative bone in my body when it comes to routining an act ir routine. I know there are DVD's and books like Tarbell that explain some of how to do it but let's face it I get frustrated when I hear things like put a killer trick here, followed by an intimate and personalble trick here or as I heard from someone who has been doing magic for a long long time said just slap some tricks together it will work itself out...no need to routine or script.

So, Jimmy if you can come out with something that teaches how to structure an original act in plain english I would not only buy it but would greatly appreciate it.
Message: Posted by: gman (Jun 29, 2009 10:27PM)
Darn they took the edit button away. Jimmy you and Haywire and One who shall not be named on this forum just gave me a great idea. I'll pm you when I have it all worked out on paper. Thanks Buddy.
Message: Posted by: Paddy (Jun 30, 2009 07:31AM)
[quote]
On 2009-06-29 13:14, ed rhodes wrote:
[quote]
On 2009-06-25 22:29, jimmy talksalot wrote:
These two things have been tearing at me.

ever since I saw all those clones of gazzo in covent garden I have been stressed about talentless people who can't figure out how to do a magic act that isn't like some one elses.

[/quote]

This is one of the reasons I never got Gazzo's routine. I know I would end up doing exactly what's in the routine and frankly you have to BE Gazzo to do what's in that routine!
[/quote]

Ed, that's your mistake. I worked this weekend with Mark from New Orleans and he does the cups and balls as a finale. Yes there is some Gazzo in it, but Mark changed it around to fit MARK and it works GREAT. That's the difference between learning an effect and being a clone. You learn from the master then adapt it to fit your personality and style.

Peter
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Jun 30, 2009 12:10PM)
Yep
Message: Posted by: ed rhodes (Jun 30, 2009 01:03PM)
[quote]
On 2009-06-30 08:31, Paddy wrote:
[quote]
On 2009-06-29 13:14, ed rhodes wrote:
[quote]
On 2009-06-25 22:29, jimmy talksalot wrote:
These two things have been tearing at me.

ever since I saw all those clones of gazzo in covent garden I have been stressed about talentless people who can't figure out how to do a magic act that isn't like some one elses.

[/quote]

This is one of the reasons I never got Gazzo's routine. I know I would end up doing exactly what's in the routine and frankly you have to BE Gazzo to do what's in that routine!
[/quote]

Ed, that's your mistake. I worked this weekend with Mark from New Orleans and he does the cups and balls as a finale. Yes there is some Gazzo in it, but Mark changed it around to fit MARK and it works GREAT. That's the difference between learning an effect and being a clone. You learn from the master then adapt it to fit your personality and style.

Peter
[/quote]

That IS my mistake, it is my weakness. I approach magic as an actor. You don't get up and do "Macbeth" and decide, "I'll change it around a little to suit my personality better!" (Although I did see a film of someone who did exactly that, he actually gave Macbeth a dying speech!) The point is to KNOW your strengths and weaknesses and not let them control you.
Message: Posted by: Danny Hustle (Jul 1, 2009 02:12AM)
Watch Kenneth Branagh do Hamlet then Mel Gibson then Laurence Olivier then Richard Burton and throw in Kevin Kline for good measure.

Five completely different takes on the Dane by five different actors. The mood and tone is also completely different in each because the directors were also different.

The words don't change but sometimes the very meanings do just because of the actor or directors interpretation.

Just something to think about, and I am sincearly not taking the mickey just trying to shed some light.

Best,

Dan-
Message: Posted by: ed rhodes (Jul 1, 2009 04:05AM)
A very good point. Understand that I am NOT putting down Gazzo's routine, or those who do it, only my faith in my ability to bring something original to it. I think Gazzo's routine is so strong, I don't believe I could bring anything to it and would only parrot what was already there. Currently I do the routine in Mark Wilson's book. I was unhappy with the end (does Mark really expect you to stand there with three lemons hidden on you and not look foolish?) I was able to come up with something that satisfied me and gave the routine a finish I could work with.
Message: Posted by: Shawn74 (Jul 1, 2009 09:51AM)
Thanks for posting the blog, Jimmy. As one who would be happy to overcome the nerve just to perform for strangers, let alone actually working a pitch, I've found a lot very helpful there.

I think a DVD not showcasing effects, but dealing with creativity, routining and the like would be much better fair than the current run of one-trick DVD's out there.

As for mimicking the performance. Henry Hay wrote about the difference between hard easy tricks and easy hard tricks. He stated that it is much easier to think about how you'll present something in your own style when you're needing to take time to actually learn the effect than it is to be force-fed a routine and trying to make it fit into your persona or style. Of course I'm paraphrasing, but...I think you all get the drift.

Again, thanks for the blog

Shawn
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Jul 2, 2009 07:57PM)
Thanks for your interest in the blog.

I couldn't agree more.

taking tricks and putting them inna certain order into a routine that fits your own character is tough because you have to think more.

writing your own script is tougher for the same reason.

but that's what your job is as an entertainer.....that's why all the shows are different on t.v.

thanks again for your support and patience
Message: Posted by: Noctuabundus (Jul 4, 2009 09:21PM)
Wow, I just made it thru this hell of a thread. Phew! I'm glad it led me to your blog tho Jimmy. Not to be redundant, but really, its a great resource. Since I took my magic break and got to thinking more recently about getting back into it much more seriously I've teeter tottered back and forth between being stoked about magic to being "realistic" and losing hope in making something of it. Its no walk in the park to bust out a routine and have it killer right away, but you've motivated me to give it some serious contemplation and hope that with enough practice and effort I may just make something worth showing the world. Since the economy took a crap on me I've got a lot more time on my hands and a great amount of resources to tap into. Now I just need to polish up my old tricks and build up something respectable. I've been thinking hard on a few things I want to put together centering around manipulating materials mostly and a lil mentalism to spice it up. I'm not entirely sure how it will all play out and how effective it will be, but I like the feel I think it will have. I want to end it with a souvenir similar to the liquid metal routine so that people have something tangible to remember me by. I'm having a hard time thinking of where to perform however because theres not many good places to hit up here in WI. I'm sure I'd just get myself kicked out of summerfest if I tried making tips there, although I could probably work outside the park without getting too much bad attention. I also was thinking about the Bristol Ren Fair since I used to work there some years ago in a shop. I always kinda had the dream of doing walk around there, but I hear its hard to get officially booked for such things. I might be able to pull some strings if my show can back me up since I got to know some good people there. I'm just a hobbyist mostly so I was thinking I'd run my routine more as a walk around "street magic" show before I get back into the flow and get the balls to set up a real busking show. Previously I mostly just did magic at parties and occasionally to random people for the fun of it and to inspire amazement. Getting a few drinks in me definitely helped as well :P Well I think I've rambled on enough now. To get back to the point, I really appreciate what everyone here has done to help others and special thanks to Jimmy for his more recent and specific inspiration. I enjoy your show very much. It reminds me of the street performers who would gather on the piers down in clearwater florida for the nightly "busk fest" that I loved watching as a child. Hell, I still enjoy hitting them up whenever I'm down that way. I look forward to getting your book whenever I get some extra funds too since I'm a wee bit down and out atm. Good thing I invested in all those books and dvds when the money was good :D
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Jul 16, 2009 05:29PM)
I can't believe you have read all this stuff , but I'm glad you gotta kick outta the thread and my stuff.

for years many have believed that the streets are not a legitamate venue, so it has been my goal to get the word out on this real and practical venue, I believe in busking, and I hope more will too!

if you wanna learn how to street perform or are just interested in the good the bad and the ugly nuts and bolts of it please check out my free instructional blog on busking;

http://jimmytalksalot.blogspot.com/

also I have been updating the who's who of magic buskers blog and you should check it out and see if there's anybody you know or wanna know;

http://sidewalkperformerswhoswho.blogspot.com/
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Sep 9, 2009 12:24PM)
Welp, I just updated both blogs and added two new blogs
Message: Posted by: fireperformer911 (Sep 9, 2009 12:46PM)
Everyone who reads the blogs or has any interest in busking should do themselves a favor and buy the Jimmys book. I have the book and I take it when I travel to pitchs. Jimmy thanks for all the help you give us newbies.
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Oct 20, 2009 05:11PM)
Thank you so much, I'm glad it helped you.

I havn't written here in a long time and I though I'd catch up.
Message: Posted by: Gary Richards (Oct 31, 2009 05:36PM)
Thanks, Jimmy, for a great contribution to the art of living. Your blog site is a nice piece of work. Keep up the good work! - gary
Message: Posted by: T. Sebastian (Dec 8, 2009 09:30PM)
I believe in busking too! I've learned more on the street than I could ever have learned sitting at home practicing moves and waiting for the phone to ring.
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Feb 12, 2010 11:33AM)
Please check out my free instructional blog
Message: Posted by: Kondini (Feb 12, 2010 11:48AM)
Jimmy you are a true star, to show respect rather than milk it is to be honest.

You I think are doing it rather than thinking it, its a long hard road but your wearing the right sized boots.

Ken.
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Feb 12, 2010 12:15PM)
Kondini,

I really appreciate that, thank you.

you have always gave me incouraging words and it has always been a big deal to me, thanks.

I make my sole income busking and travelling the world.

I have been getting a lot of flack and bad publicity for a lot of made up reasons and straw men.

all because I defended a couple of old masters and some fellahs who hurt them wanted to shut me up, because it was hurting their reputations.

I have pretty much stopped writing articals, because of this and other things that have backed fired, mostly hypercommercial minded hobbyest not getting it.

I am hoping they will bury the axe and leave me alone now.

I have learned a valuable lesson recently.....as you have said that appentiship and paying ones dues is crucial.

my writing unfortunately is best understood by those who are out there working and have paid dues.

I DO NOT WANT TO SOUND NEGATIVE.

I'm just trying to say, it is difficult for some one to understand something they have not spent years doing.

THE GOOD NEWS IS,

what I have witnessed is that there are a group of guys, that were just starting out there, who read the blog and instead of criticising it took it on faith and now have made huge carreers as buskers.

this is my reward.
Message: Posted by: SilvaAce (Feb 12, 2010 05:02PM)
I just got to say, it is great to have a community like what we have here. The past few weeks have been hell on me at work. Boss and customers ****ting on me from all angles.I got so many non-supportive people around me in every aspect of my life right now. I keep asking myself what the hell happened! Maybe it's just something that is getting me ready for the streets this summer. Toughen me up!
The last 5 months I have been dreaming, breathing, and just absorbing everything about street performing. In some way I feel like I was born to do this, and can't wait to get out there!
Driving home I rehearse my lines projecting my voice inside my car. While standing in line at the grocery store, I start picking out volunteers in my head. Who would make the best volunteer for which trick. My lunch box is overflowing with scraps of paper with notes of jokes, gags, and even drawings of my costume. Oh, and every now and then IN PUBLIC I start going through the motions of a routine without even realizing it.
I just wanna thank all of you guys for the support and encouragement. I too will have a street show or two under my belt........woman, give me my balls, I'll be downtown!!!!
Message: Posted by: Mac_Stone (Feb 12, 2010 07:46PM)
Carlos,

I'm in the same boat as you man, selling my life away for minimum wage at a crappy job and the only thing keeping my chin up is the hope of busking in the Summer season, I'll probably have to keep things local but I'm hoping I can drive up and work Hollywood, Daytona, and Clearwater while camping out in my car, should be fun. I have been slaving away the past few months preparing my act after meeting Chris Capehart, Kozmo, AND Harry Anderson at the Daytona Magic Convention this last November! I think I will look back on that weekend many years from now as one of my most life changing experiences.

I can't wait to go out and hit the streets hard, I'll need all the practice I can get because my big goal is to fly out to Edinburgh, Scotland this August where I can crash on my sister's couch for the month while I work their HUGE fringe festival. I hope to make enough money to float around Europe for about a month.

I too would like to thank all the guys here for helping me out a long the way, especially Kozmo and Danny Hustle. I don't know what I would have done without you guys.


Mac
Message: Posted by: SilvaAce (Feb 15, 2010 09:33AM)
Mac, We gotta stay strong brother! Someday we will take the world by storm...ok, maybe just the streets. I know it will be worth all the time and crap we have to put up with until then!
You have some awesome plans ahead of you, I really hope they work out for you. I enjoy reading about what other buskers have done and places they've been to.
Life Awaits Us!!!
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Feb 16, 2010 10:56PM)
SilvaAce,

I believe your right.

if you stick with it like a fanatic and love what your doing and believe in it, it will happen for you I know it.
Message: Posted by: SilvaAce (Feb 17, 2010 11:25AM)
Thanks Jimmy,
Hey, I gotta say that you are one of those people I always remember when I start feeling down. I tell myself, Jimmy Talksalot goes out there with just his bag and hat and ENTERTAINS!!! You are a true Busking Samurai Jimmy!
Message: Posted by: gaddy (Feb 17, 2010 01:45PM)
[quote]
On 2010-02-12 13:15, jimmy talksalot wrote:
Kondini,

I really appreciate that, thank you.

you have always gave me incouraging words and it has always been a big deal to me, thanks.

I make my sole income busking and travelling the world.

I have been getting a lot of flack and bad publicity for a lot of made up reasons and straw men.

[/quote]

It's best to ignore "the press". You really cannot win. If they hate you and you buy into it, then you've already lost the mind game. [i]And[/i] if they love you and you buy into it, you set yourself up for an even bigger fall in the future

-also, your head swells up about 4 sizes too big for your hat, which is unsightly at best, at worst it gets in the way of all the money that could be falling into your hat...
Message: Posted by: Joe Mauro (Feb 19, 2010 06:24PM)
What are "straw men"?
Message: Posted by: G.Gilbert (Feb 19, 2010 07:36PM)
Joe,

straw man / men is a term used in debates and debating..

basically a straw man is one who completely misses the point and misrepresents the the debators original position... for example one will exaggerate jimmy's position in order to refute his theory and win the argument ....

( a sad way to try and discredit somebody )
Message: Posted by: Joe Mauro (Feb 22, 2010 10:18PM)
Thank you G.Gilbert!
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Feb 24, 2010 05:59PM)
Gaddy,

wise words thanks for the advice.
Message: Posted by: J.G. the magnificent (Mar 8, 2010 05:27PM)
[quote]
On 2007-10-03 11:59, jimmy talksalot wrote:
If you're a beginner and are lacking resources I have set up a blog that teaches how to be a sidewalk performer if any bodies interested.

jimmytalksalot.blogspot.com
[/quote]
Sounds like just what I am looking for deciding to start doing it to get a feel for things. I don't want to go head first into party's only to screw up. I will half to buy it.
Message: Posted by: starksanity (Apr 22, 2010 04:30PM)
I just found this topic, and have been overwhelmed by how much has been said about Jimmy Talksalot. I can't believe it took me so long to find it, my only excuse is, I have been out doing shows. Hopefully someone will find my experience with Jimmy useful.

Jimmy's methods are real-life, not sugar-coated, effective strategies to street perform. He gives us the one thing that other books and most DVD's will never give us: VENUE. His teachers and peers have asked him to pass on this incredible knowledge, and he does it in a way that even I can understand.

When I first saw Jimmy's show last October I went online to see if anyone else was recognizing his genius. His blogs opened my eyes to the life of a street performer, the joys and freedoms, but also the trials and hardships. The next week he was signing my copy of his book, which was already getting dog-eared from three readings.

So here we are, six-months later. Jimmy's instruction (mostly him telling me, "didn't you read the book?" haha) has allowed me to quit my regular job and live as a full time magician, using the street as my primary venue. I understand my show, magic, and theater so much better now, and really know the value of my act. I had to stop taking some bookings because they weren't paying what I now make on the street in the same amount of time!

I tell this story, not to gloat, but because I really believe now in the street as a venue, and want to help others find it. This is a venue that will not disappear when the economy turns, and is not governed as much by the whims of the times.

Get out there, provide a good, valuable show to your audience, and start getting paid what you deserve.

go to
http://jimmytalksalot.blogspot.com/

then buy the book

Kris Bentz
Seamless Magic
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (May 14, 2010 11:08AM)
Thanks kris.

kris is a brilliant magician with much better chops than me, and now has serious street skills.

I'm proud to be his friend and I know y'all will be hearing a lot about him in the future because of his talent and know how.
Message: Posted by: Jason Shapiro (Jun 12, 2010 09:28PM)
Jimmy, If not for your blogs I would have never made that leap of faith and belived enough in myself to quit the day job and devote my all to this. It is right about a year to the day( or so ) since I quit, I remember cause I went down to Nola on fathers day right after my two weeks notice. I strongly remember reading the particular blog about when its time, to go full-time, repeatedly, just moments before I made the call to my boss. It has never been a cakewalk, and you never told me it would be! This life is not for every one! I appreciate your honesty. This is the hardest job ive ever had and the most satisfying as well. I have had some of the hardest times this last year, and some of the best... met some GREAT people I would have never met if not for going for it. Just wanted to say thanks for helping me before you even knew me, I had some of my best shows yet this weekend in Tennessee. Just got back about an hour ago. So until I can say it in person... Thanks Jimmy!

Jason
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Jul 8, 2010 11:33PM)
I had a chance to watch some of Jason's work on video.

super original and great sidewalk.

I repeatedly here great reports on the road about him and wish one day to see his work in person.

I know some real pro vetrans of many years who have had wonderful things to say about his work. I would urge any one to keep an eye out for him on the sidewalks.

he has also helped out me and many himself with his forum writings and on the street.

thank you so much jason for showing us all what the sidewalk can do for us magicians.

your pal jimmy.
Message: Posted by: augiemagic (Jul 14, 2010 12:34AM)
Jimmy, I have decided it is one of my life goals to hang out and meet you. Your book is awesome, Your blog is awesome (admittedly, I haven't read all of the posts), your contributions here are awesome.

And I don't think I've ever heard anyone say a bad word about you. I don't think I'd believe them If they did.

I think the greatest thing is that you have all these people on the Café telling you how good you are, and you don't let it go to your head. I have mad respect for that.

Thanks for all your contributions to our artform!

-Augie
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Jul 22, 2010 03:42PM)
A lot of people have asked me about my history, so here goes;


I learned my first magic tricks as a small child from my parents bringing stuff home and my grand father teaching me stuff.

I performed as a performance artist traveling the country through out the 80's reciting my poetry and short stories on stage, in Cafés, cabarets, and on the street.

it was a mixture of effects, acting, and some singing and music.

due to my ignorance at the time on the subject of busking, I considered the streets an artistic endeavor and not an occupation...i made very little income from it.

it wasn't until getting a job at "magic masters" in the the early nineties that I focused all my performance on magic.

as far as street performing went I was performing any and all venues I could get including the streets, up until this time since I was a kid.

the streets didn't pay me very much then, because I wasn't properly trained. so I pursued payed venues.

it wasn't until the break down of my marriage around ten years ago that even the idea of street performing for a living entered my head.

after the seperation, my teacher in magic Doug and the rest of the teachers came and taught me how to properly street perform for a living.

I have been doing it ever since as my sole means of income.

I had worked many times in my life letting performing, support me and my family,

but it wasn't until I learned the system that Cellini taught, that I was able to begin this career.

since then, my wife has taken me back and I have a more stable life.

feeling that I owed Cellini and all of his students for my new life, I wrote the book, "to lure with spectacle." for them as they instructed me.

also I have set up a free instructional blog.

and have I tryed to protect my teachers from any slander, or misunderstanding of what they teach or their abilities, to the best of my knowledge.

I am proud of this even if it has opened a few cans of worms for me.

I would urge anyone looking to start out on the streets to read my free blog and I hope this information that has done so much for me will do the same for you.

the school of thought I come from is that what we do as magicians is real and not some cheap gimmick to make a buck.

I have been a magiican all of my life, I am very proud and opinionated about this lifestyle.

I try to be very loyal to my teachers and my students.

I have tryed to be as honest as I can, about my life and what I have learned, to further the progress of the other struggling magicians like myself.

http://jimmytalksalot.blogspot.com/
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Message: Posted by: kOnO (Jul 23, 2010 09:23AM)
Jimmy,

Thanks for all you are giving. I hope it comes back to you 10 fold.

kOnO
Message: Posted by: Hawkan (Jul 27, 2010 12:26AM)
Stockholm hade the pleasure of hosting a street art festival two weeks ago, and there were some very good artists from around the world doing their shows. It was the first time I (and surely the rest of the Stockholmers) saw anything like it.

One thing that pretty soon got annoying to me - and I heard many people saying it too - was the constant talk about giving them money. And the more they talked about it, the more drawn-out was the show. I saw the shows several times, and the artist that seemed to get the absolutely biggest hats was the one NOT going on and on about giving her money after the show. And that show was (in my opinion) the artistically best one. Something happened all the time, the performer seemed to enjoy herself and having fun, almost no stock lines used. It lasted maybe 40 minutes but it felt like 10. Very inspiring.

I believe too many hat-lines and talking about money really cheapens the show. The audience GET IT.

I do think that Jimmy´s method is a better way to go (but not cloning him). It doesn´t underestimate the spectators or insult their intelligence.


Håkan
:wavey:
Message: Posted by: gaddy (Jul 27, 2010 02:09AM)
[quote]
On 2010-07-27 01:26, Hawkan wrote:
Stockholm hade the pleasure of hosting a street art festival two weeks ago, and there were some very good artists from around the world doing their shows. It was the first time I (and surely the rest of the Stockholmers) saw anything like it.

One thing that pretty soon got annoying to me - and I heard many people saying it too - was the constant talk about giving them money. And the more they talked about it, the more drawn-out was the show. I saw the shows several times, and the artist that seemed to get the absolutely biggest hats was the one NOT going on and on about giving her money after the show. And that show was (in my opinion) the artistically best one. Something happened all the time, the performer seemed to enjoy herself and having fun, almost no stock lines used. It lasted maybe 40 minutes but it felt like 10. Very inspiring.

I believe too many hat-lines and talking about money really cheapens the show. The audience GET IT.

I do think that Jimmy´s method is a better way to go (but not cloning him). It doesn´t underestimate the spectators or insult their intelligence.


Håkan
:wavey:
[/quote]

There is a big difference between a "hat-LINE" and a "hat-SHOW"...
Message: Posted by: Hawkan (Jul 27, 2010 05:25AM)
Yes, it is. I believe the correct ratio is maximun 0.3 hat-lines per minute. After that it becomes a hat-show.

Håkan
:wavey:
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Sep 23, 2010 08:19PM)
Couldn't agree more with y'all.

sorry I took so long responding.

after reading some of the questions and discussions on other threads, it reminded me that it would probably be a good idea to remind people about the free instructional blog.

it's free and I took a lot of time with it. the hardest part was tracking all the old timers down and gettin their wisdom, to put down in writing.

it don't make me any money and it don't cost you a cent.

when people write me and tell me how much it's helped, that's payment enough.

thank you all for everything.

your pal jimmy.
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Sep 24, 2010 12:12AM)
So here's the link;

http://jimmytalksalot.blogspot.com/
Message: Posted by: geoffa (Sep 24, 2010 11:50AM)
Thanks for putting this information out there, Jimmy. It's very useful for folks like me who are thinking about putting together a street, or even a street style/inspired, routine. Really, great stuff.
Message: Posted by: streetguy (Sep 30, 2010 09:29AM)
Hello everyone! I'm new here but performed for over 40 years in different venues around the world. Mostly as a festival and fair performer, I used to work the streets in San Fran at the Warf over thirty years ago, and moved to New York City in the late eighties. Worked along side Albert Owens, a fella named Keith, Master Lee, and a few others...I used to hang around at Tannens and got to meet some of the greats (Slydini, Garcia, etc.) I even shared a pitch with Jim Cellini on several occasions! Actually, he shared with me, what a learning experience that was! I have since moved to middle America (Missouri) and don't do much in the way of performing anymore due to health reasons.
Getting old, and doing nothing can make you run crazy. Retired means BORED.

I'm not too good at this computer thing but will try and keep up...

Anyway, just wanted to introduce myself and say hello.

Hope to talk with you all and make some new friends along the way.
Message: Posted by: MitchellMac (Oct 3, 2010 11:35AM)
Great!!! I liked the video a lot too!
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Nov 28, 2010 12:10PM)
Sorry I took so long responding, I have been busy working and doing family stuff.

I have a bunch of stuff on the who's who blog about kieth, and albert, cellini, etc.

thanks so much for the interest.

I try and keep this thread up so poeple will get a chance with the free instructional blog, so even, or especially if they don't have money they can learn how to do their lifes work (magic) as a living.

the reason the free blog is up is because of many of these old masters who told me to put it up.

I havn't updated the blog inna while but I have a huge amount of stuff that has been getting backed up, that will be going up soon....so keep an eye out for it.

thanks again,

your pal jimmy
Message: Posted by: Ivan Nikolayevich Ponyryov (Nov 28, 2010 02:00PM)
Thank you Jimmy.
Message: Posted by: fireperformer911 (Dec 2, 2010 06:59PM)
Jimmy

Loved your article titled MAKE YOUR OWN STANDARD. I thought it has a lot of meaning and not just for street performing. Thanks
Message: Posted by: fireperformer911 (Dec 10, 2010 03:36PM)
My Favorite 4 minutes of magic on youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iU4Lcc2CvHY
Message: Posted by: fireperformer911 (Jan 1, 2011 10:47AM)
My Favorite 4 minutes of street performing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGghPkWaqHE

When he took his wig off and put on bald guy I lost it. Please read credits funny as well. Sorry if this is not right topic for this post Jimmy.
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Jan 4, 2011 06:06PM)
Thanks for all the kind words and interest y'all.

also I would like to remind everyone that I have added some more buskers on the who's who blog.

check it out you may have seen some of these folks.

I will be putting some more up soon.

http://sidewalkperformerswhoswho.blogspot.com/
Message: Posted by: Dynamike (Jan 7, 2011 01:05AM)
Jimmy, you ever thought about coming out with a second book?
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Jan 10, 2011 03:51PM)
Yeah, I'm thinkin about a new book....but, I dunno.

also I have been taking many students.

breaking tradition a little, I do not charge them money for instruction.

but, I definately demand commitment from them.

I am definately not making any money on lectures or products....i guess I'm a bad businessman...oh well.

I do all this, because I love it and I love seeing people start a new life.

I may even do a free lecture soon, or I may just hat the lecture.....haha...i dunno.

also I was thinking, doing a lecture out on the pitch itself so I could keep almost a normal work day and then just hang out with the crew that shows up and answer questions.

so far in my life, I make enough to support myself and family from the streets, and taking on students has definately made me a lot of friends, who keep me in the loop, because I spend so much time working, sometimes keeping up with what's new escapes me.

also seeing how busking can change some ones life for the better is very rewarding for me.

I really appreciate everyones interest here, I can only hope they are, or will be, as blessed to discover this wonderful way of life, as I have.
Message: Posted by: noland (Jan 11, 2011 01:27PM)
Rather than write another book, you should release a dvd. I think there would be a lot of interest in it--certainly among everyone who bought your book--and it would position you to do paid lectures for magic clubs and other magician gatherings if you wanted to generate some income from a new source when you're not busking.
Message: Posted by: RiffRaff (Jan 25, 2011 07:20AM)
When will a new article be posted?
Message: Posted by: Mario Morris (Jan 26, 2011 07:15AM)
[quote]
On 2011-01-10 16:51, jimmy talksalot wrote:
Yeah, I'm thinkin about a new book....but, I dunno.

also I have been taking many students.

breaking tradition a little, I do not charge them money for instruction.

but, I definately demand commitment from them.

I am definately not making any money on lectures or products....i guess I'm a bad businessman...oh well.

I do all this, because I love it and I love seeing people start a new life.

I may even do a free lecture soon, or I may just hat the lecture.....haha...i dunno.

also I was thinking, doing a lecture out on the pitch itself so I could keep almost a normal work day and then just hang out with the crew that shows up and answer questions.

so far in my life, I make enough to support myself and family from the streets, and taking on students has definately made me a lot of friends, who keep me in the loop, because I spend so much time working, sometimes keeping up with what's new escapes me.

also seeing how busking can change some ones life for the better is very rewarding for me.

I really appreciate everyones interest here, I can only hope they are, or will be, as blessed to discover this wonderful way of life, as I have.
[/quote]

Hello Jimmy

Your far from breaking a tradition!

Sharing ideas on pitch with other people it is what every busker does.
There are countless encounters and sharing ideas and no one charges, rather it is an exchange.
I do and I have witnessed teaching taking place on pitches for years.

To open it up on pitch is it largely becomes about your show instead of the students.

The danger is copying!
The problem has arrises especially amongst magicians is playgerlisam.
Other performers coming not just to watch you but to copy your act word for word.

Never use a working pitch as part of a course or teaching event, that's a big no, no.
Great consideration has to be taken of where to teach.

We could have run the School at Edinburgh, Convent Garden and so on.
I would not dream of it, this is sacred ground.
So we find play grounds, Cardiff is a great example, this is an exerlent place in which to learn busking while not stepping on the toes of fellow buskers.

To avoid this I will only work with one act at a time on pitch, this is long term and a free exchange.
IE I will watch your show and give you feed back and now you can watch mine and son on.

This keeps me in check, I am always learning that way.
Just because I have written a book, produced DVD and founded the School of Busking does not mean I cant learn from fellow performers.
In the last few years I have been watching some of the best talent rise around me.

Creating an environment for example a course you can create an environment which is about the students.
Their show, their ideas and their successes.
Message: Posted by: MagiCol (Jan 26, 2011 03:29PM)
Mario wrote: "Creating an environment for example a course you can create an environment which is about the students.
Their show, their ideas and their successes."
I agree! Teaching, in whatever form, is about the student gaining skills. Not the teacher's ego, or "I know so much you should be grateful to me." Teaching should centre the student, the learner gaining knowledge and skills and correct attitudes.
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Jan 26, 2011 07:45PM)
I also believe it is all about the student.

the only things I really get is, what I can learn from them and furthering the tradition.

but for me these are big things.

of course my students take pretty good care of me if I need anything, I have been very fortunate.

my goal is to make my students better than me.

and this has happened over and over again.

sometimes it's pretty humbling when they out shine me by a mile,

but it makes it all worth while when I see what the art form and the fellow artist is capable of.

my students are fanatics, all of them.

if I don't see that in a potential student I will not take him.

this loses friends sometimes, but since I don't charge I can't afford a wishy washy ego maniac.

it costs me too much time, money, and patience.

argumentive guys with big egos have never been able to show me greatness in thier work,

so saddly there's no reward for me.

I look for guys who want to work every second of the day and are looking at this as a career, a "real job" their lifes work, what they were born to do.

instead it seems very often I get the type of guy, who wants to romance the idea of the streets and wants the street cred with out actually really working the street, so I try and avoid them.

of course if I charged I wouldn't hesitates to teach these guys in an hour or two lecture....

because then it's their time and money their wasting....not mine.

I know I must sound harsh, but with the large work load of helping so many,

I feel I have to focus on the ones who are serious,

instead of trying to make myself more popular....once again I'm not charging.

my objective is quality, not quantity when producing street magicians.

many have read my blog and become very successful street performers with out every meeting me in person.....because they are fanatics.

you wanna be good at this?

do magic, all the time, every where, for who ever will watch it.

your pal jimmy.
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Jan 26, 2011 08:08PM)
Riff raff,

sorry I havn't been writing any new stuff.

I have been spending huge time trying to work the streets to make ends meet with my family.

you see I am stuck over here in southern california and it is very difficult here.

I have to put in a lot of hours here to make what I might make in an hour, anywhere else.

but I have some stuff I have been stewing on and it will go up shortly on the blog.

I especially have good news about how small doorway/sidewalk acts can make a living in a small town that has little to no walkers......

well, that's because, that's what I have had to do here, for the past two years!

and.

mario,

as always thanks for all the kind words, and thank you so much for all you have done for all of us.

as far as clones, I hear you brother, what a pain in the neck they are.

the way I teach, people who would clone, hate me, because I am a task master for an original show and original character.

fanatics don't clone.

fanatics don't clone.

case in point;

http://sidewalkperformerswhoswho.blogspot.com/2010/12/chaplino.html

chaplino is a typical of my students in the sense that, none of them are alike and none of them have cloned a show.

I am very proud of this and post them all up on the who's who blog along with teachers, peers, and friends.

http://sidewalkperformerswhoswho.blogspot.com/

your pal jimmy.

oh yeah and if anyone wants to learn how to be a street performer, check out the free instructional blog;

http://jimmytalksalot.blogspot.com/
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Jan 26, 2011 08:34PM)
Check out this guy for an original act;

http://sidewalkperformerswhoswho.blogspot.com/2010/12/diobo.html

check out all of his videos on youtube this guy is incredable.

this is a great example of a student who has out done me by a mile.

there is some better footage of the same trick if you look for it.
Message: Posted by: Nick W (Jan 27, 2011 11:27AM)
HA! Lightfoot was telling me of a guy cracking a mouse from an egg! very pretty!!
Message: Posted by: MagiCol (Jan 27, 2011 07:05PM)
"I especially have good news about how small doorway/sidewalk acts can make a living in a small town that has little to no walkers...... " Jimmy, that will be very interesting to me, 'cause my most regular pitch is in a small city where things can be pretty quiet.
Message: Posted by: ed rhodes (Feb 9, 2011 10:01AM)
[quote]
On 2011-01-26 21:08, jimmy talksalot wrote:
Riff raff,

sorry I havn't been writing any new stuff.

I have been spending huge time trying to work the streets to make ends meet with my family.

you see I am stuck over here in southern california and it is very difficult here.
***
oh yeah and if anyone wants to learn how to be a street performer, check out the free instructional blog;

http://jimmytalksalot.blogspot.com/
[/quote]

Jimmy, the blog is a great service you perform for street magicians. It is not your livelihood.
Do it when you can, we'll wait.

[quote]
On 2011-01-27 20:05, MagiCol wrote:
"I especially have good news about how small doorway/sidewalk acts can make a living in a small town that has little to no walkers...... " Jimmy, that will be very interesting to me, 'cause my most regular pitch is in a small city where things can be pretty quiet.
[/quote]

Me too, as they don't make "cities" smaller than Providence (maybe Newport) any smaller than this and it becomes a "town."

I'm pretty certain I don't have the level of commitment you do Jimmy, but I'm trying.
A few years ago, I wouldn't even be out there, now I'm there and not making very much. In time, I hope to be out there making more.
Message: Posted by: RiffRaff (Feb 10, 2011 11:57AM)
Jimmy:
I really like your crowd build, but I was wondering - do you change your technique depending on the pitch, and if so, how?
Message: Posted by: vernon (Feb 14, 2011 09:32PM)
Worked alongside Diobo in Edinburgh last year. He was the one act EVERYBODY wanted to see. Other performers, audience, and staff if the Fringe. Soooo different from all the rest. Aspired to be 'real Magic' so to speak. Truly great act.

James James
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Feb 17, 2011 01:09PM)
Welp ok,

I finaly wrote how I have been making a living now for two years in a town with very little foot traffic.

it's on my free instructional blog and it's titled "SURVIVING IN A SMALL TOWN"

it's a bit long, but, as many of you know in small towns, there's a lot going against us and there needs to be a strategy that overcomes quite a bit.

for the past two years, I have had to deal with a town culture that is very cliqueish and is opposed to art or new things.

this is not to say it is devoid of people who want to make it better, and I have tryed to suuround myself with them,

to keep my sanity and livilyhood.

here's the link;

http://jimmytalksalot.blogspot.com/2011/02/for-past-two-years-i-have-been-working.html

by the way, yeah, diobo, is the man!
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Feb 17, 2011 01:19PM)
This may or may not, be a tuff artical to read if you are not that familiar with busking.

so I would suggest you read the rest of the instructional blog, to pick up some of the lingo and concepts.

I assure the reader the rest of my blog isn't so difficult to read.

your pal jimmy.
Message: Posted by: starksanity (Feb 17, 2011 03:13PM)
Great article!

If you are stuck on a small pitch for any reason, or you are starting out and can't travel to learn, this article gives all you need to know to make busking work for you.

I have seen Jimmy using these techniques for months now, and at first it was mind-blowing to see his success while I and a few others (especially weekend warriors) struggled. So I swallowed my pride and listened to what Jimmy had been telling me. I am on pitch right now, paying my bills, and most importantly, NOT doing a real job.

I am glad you wrote this article, Jimmy, but why did you have to give it to everyone? :)

This is what I've learned; when Jimmy speaks, don't just listen, DO. He won't steer you wrong.
Message: Posted by: Stperformer (Feb 17, 2011 10:29PM)
Heya Jimmmy,

Interesting article....I honestly admire your strong work ethic!!

With all that constant performing, I was wondering if you ever experience burn-out and if so how you deal with it.

Plus the voice, or rather the loss of voice from constant bantering during the show. Has it ever been a problem for you????

I know from my experience, these are 2 issues that are sometimes huge obstacles that I'm always looking how others deal with.

Ta
Message: Posted by: Eric Evans (Feb 18, 2011 02:46AM)
If I may be so bold to interject here:
I worked.for many years in restaurants and bars. Burn out was something I had to deal with in those venues specifically. But when I started concentrating on the street, all that disappeared. Every show was different largely because the people I had to interact with were different. I listened to them and responded to their own concern and comments. There was no more burn out because I was responding in the moment.
In restaurants, on the other hand, everything became rote; same routines performed to the same expressions of disbelief and wonder and it was all the same. Sterilized and certified boredom on my part, no immediacy or intimacy, no real relationship between me and my audience.
The street is the cure for burn out. Its unpredicability and challenge makes me reach deeper inside than any other venue I have ever worked. I've learned more there than I would have dreamed anywhere else.
And as to voice, you learn how to conserve your resources, be it energy or efforts. Make them effective.
Message: Posted by: Eric Evans (Feb 18, 2011 03:26AM)
Addendum:
I am not advocating ANYBODY else try the street. Thanks largely to Jimmy's blog there seem to be more every day. The street was the cure for me, that's all I can speak of. All I am advocating is...well, pursue your dream. No, screw that. Joseph Cambell and his "bliss" be d####d.
Just deal with it.
As to voice, get an amplifier.
Message: Posted by: Nick W (Feb 18, 2011 03:36AM)
Amp are nice.........if you cant afford you can always try the good ole' voice warm up! take a voice lesson............

Sandy Spillman put out fantastic tapes on voice exercises........not finding these tapes is a mistake...
Message: Posted by: Stperformer (Feb 18, 2011 07:16AM)
Wow, thank ya Nick and Eric. Talk about high-level qualified advice :))))

Barclay
Message: Posted by: fireperformer911 (Mar 24, 2011 10:40AM)
Jimmy

For small show Amp or no Amp. This seems to be a lot deeper question than it looks like on surface.

Music can set mood
People know your not a bum

Something else to carry

Insights Please.

Thanks
Message: Posted by: Rotten (Mar 28, 2011 02:40PM)
Well I am neck deep in information I could have used last weekend. Is Jimmy's book still available to purchase? And if so where?

Regards,
Ted
Message: Posted by: epoptika (Mar 28, 2011 04:28PM)
Ted, - here is a link; http://www.leapinglizardsmagic.com/csspages/css_lure_with_spectacle.htm
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Mar 30, 2011 09:34PM)
Welp, I'll thow out my two cents.

in my opinion...

I think an amp for a small sidewalk show is really cool.

I don't normally use one (except in paid festivals), I like to travel light.

but I love watching when a good close up performer uses one......if he knows how to use an amp.

an amp should not be blaring, it should simply make your voice sound more pro.

the great thing about an amp is it is doing all the crowd building for you all throughout the show.

as the people are walking up they hear a pro from inside the crowd and come up to see what's going on inside the tight crowd.

just because a show is close up,

doesn't mean it shouldn't have all the proper stage equipment of the big shows.

like; lights, music, costume, and proper staging.

I've seen jerry salazar use an amp with a very small tight crowd on the wharf in frisco.

at one point he even did a silent ring routine to music with the amp and his impeccable costume.

he looked really pro.

I love the small creative well produced acts, always have.

me and "Toot" worked with a large battery spot light for night shows and that built crowds and held em cuz they could see.

but don't get me wrong I have seen some really bare bones acts and they played great too!

I guess it's all up to you.

Oh yeah, if you wanna learn how to street perform I have a FREE instructional blog for you.

http://jimmytalksalot.blogspot.com/

the blog is huge and has any question any one could have about busking and it's all free.

it has huge contributions of wisdom from a slew of masters with many years under their belt.

your pal jimmy.
Message: Posted by: Chance (Apr 20, 2011 02:11PM)
Hey all, it looks like this thread has been re-opened.
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Apr 20, 2011 02:37PM)
Yay, they like us here.

thanks Chance, mr. wilder, and especially mr. scribner.

and thank all of you for all the nice stuff you said.

it should be understood that I am not making anything off of the blog.

the education I am trying to provided is all free and costs me time and money to provide for people...all of which is made from busking alone.

even my book deal goes to my students in books and stuff.

my publisher, my teachers, and students, have all made huge sacrifices to be able to provide for artists.

I make zero profit, infact it costs me a lot to do the things I do for busking, but I do it because I am indebted to those who gave me my life in it.

I am not in the business of marketing busking stuff, I busk for a living.

and for the magic Café to allow all of us here to do that, makes me extremely grateful.

there are those out there who may try to twist this up, or put a spin on it, and I feel bad for them.

I just believe in busking and I feel like I owe my life to it and I know it could help so many because I have seen how many it has helped already.

I believe the more quality acts that are out there, will lure more public interest in what we do and will only make us all more successful at making a living at it.

if your a magician who needs a venue, come out to the street.

thanks again, all y'all

your pal jimmy
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Apr 20, 2011 02:39PM)
Thanks again Chance
Message: Posted by: fireperformer911 (Apr 20, 2011 03:28PM)
Whom ever un-locked thread. THANK YOU!!
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (May 18, 2011 03:26PM)
I just wrote a new one if any ones interested.


titled;

"IT'S HARDER TO DO IT THE MASTERS WAY."

http://jimmytalksalot.blogspot.com/2011/05/its-harder-to-do-it-masters-way.html
Message: Posted by: HerbLarry (May 18, 2011 04:12PM)
[quote]



http://jimmytalksalot.blogspot.com/2011/05/its-harder-to-do-it-masters-way.html
[/quote]

:applause: Magic is real and never forget it's importance to a Magician for Pete's sake. (I don't personally know Pete but I'm sure he would agree)
Message: Posted by: SamTheMagicMan (May 18, 2011 11:28PM)
I don't think I have enough capability with language to express how much Jimmy's thinking and philosophy have inspired me. After giving up magic for a number of years, Jimmy's videos and blog reminded me of everything I love about the art and inspired me to make a new start. This quote from Jimmy's most recent blog post really hit home for me:

"after all the streets are an escape from conforming to the business machine....don't make them the same nightmare we ran away from in the first place."

Jimmy's kinetic, energetic, and highly original magic have been a revelation for me. Because of Jimmy, in the last two years I have taken significant steps toward becoming a full-time magician. I hope that one day I can meet him in person and thank him for how much his FREE advice has changed my life!
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (May 19, 2011 01:03AM)
HerbLarry and Sam,

Thank you sooo much for getting it.

sometimes I am in awe at how some people starting out with nothing more than written word and some footage go out there and make it happen.

this definately shows talent and commitment on their part.

learning how to busk proffessionally is really tuff.

this is why I write so much hoping I am helping.

when I get responces like this, it is so rewarding to me, honestly.

I guess I'm getting old.

another thing is it's nice to hear that there are people that can relate to me....sometimes I feel pretty alone out here....there arn't too many of us out here......it's a tuff pitch.

sam I hope to meet you out on the sidewalk some day.

your pal jimmy.
Message: Posted by: Mario Morris (May 19, 2011 04:02AM)
Hi Jimmy

Great Blog I enjoyed your thinking of the sociology of the Magician, exerlent!

The part I am divided over is when you start talking about circle shows and how you know because you have done it!

Well their are a lot of generic street shows out their, true.

Eqwely their are some great purist out their who shows are far from generic.

To through the baby out with the bath warter may be a little short sighted I think.

It is a real tough thing to draw a large circle show.

I started off with a circle show and I did so for 8 years got into doorway shows well to be frank because its easer!

I guess if I keep on going down that path the next step I will be becoming a slug on a crate, which will lead me to being a drunk on a bench, LOL

Got to laugh at our selfs.

Instead I brought my old Circle show back out and it feels good, no amps and cant stand those things instead lots of play.

I feel like a kid again, so much to learn with so little time.

To build from scratch and the sociology behind it is full of magical wonder of creating curiosity in the public and to do that well, gee that is tough. So much re-learn and learn, that is what I love about the streets, so much to learn.

Their are a few purist that will not use amps and so on but have trained their voices into powerful tools of projection.

One class example a man who was my mentor in the early 90 Dave Shore, wow to watch this guy.

Another is Herbie Treehead I don't know him as such but I have watched his show, watching these guys is watching pure art, yes they are circus performers.

Then You have double acts like Charlie and Haggis jugglers, I use to share a pitch with them in Bath, very well known in the Circus world.

Magicians from old School that WE have rarely herd of Billy Busker I shared a pitch with him for some yrs. Fantastic circle show and dam he hatted twice in every show, to this day.

Noel Britain a Comedy Magician Show drew huge audiences.

Fantastic clowning and full of Magic and Wonder and their are so many out their if you no where to look.

I do agree with you in mind of generic shows but to right it off would be non-magical.

Just a thought

The bottom line is I like your thinking about the Magician!

All the best

Mario
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (May 19, 2011 10:32AM)
Mario,

we are saying the same thing.

just let it go.
Message: Posted by: j100taylor (May 19, 2011 11:38AM)
[quote]
On 2011-05-18 17:12, HerbLarry wrote:
[quote]



http://jimmytalksalot.blogspot.com/2011/05/its-harder-to-do-it-masters-way.html
[/quote]

:applause: Magic is real and never forget it's importance to a Magician for Pete's sake. (I don't personally know Pete but I'm sure he would agree)
[/quote]

A magic prophet...
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (May 20, 2011 01:23AM)
Hey mario,

sorry for the "just let it go" thing, I was half asleep when I posted.

I am a big fan of your work and your instuructional stuff.

didn't mean any disrespect.

thanks for the post some great points.

your pal jimmy.
Message: Posted by: Mario Morris (May 20, 2011 04:52AM)
Your a Gentleman,
Transparent and Honest which above all is most important!
The heart.
Mario
Message: Posted by: vernon (May 28, 2011 11:05PM)
Sitting here on pitch surfing the comments, great to see so much...re voice, yup an amp is a big help... Mine has broken so just using my voice, and it does last, even after all these years, but with a mic,one has more inflection to use when it's a big show. Mario, and Jimmy, love you guys, and have the greatest respect for you both
Now to get to work!!!!

James
Message: Posted by: Devious (Aug 14, 2011 05:00AM)
Jimmy, I'm back on the pitch at The Embarcadero. I know you and Roger are on the road. You have a clone here using your mannerisms, cadence, and other bits of business. Check your voicemail kid! It slowed down after Comic-Con.
Israel
Message: Posted by: Gulyás Imre Miklós (Aug 28, 2011 05:08PM)
This blog is golden, thank you very much for writing it
Message: Posted by: Devious (Aug 28, 2011 11:53PM)
It's certainly my pleasure to document it. I'm thankful that our little dysfunctional sidewalk crew family here are reading it!

I've had many personal messages with some wonderful advice and questions. I thank you for each them.

A video crew is documenting most of the days run. It's a two month shoot to insure that we capture as much material from occasional situational circumstances. Some moments are having to be re-shot due to lighting issues. The videos are being edited at the moment, but look for the uploads very soon.

We are producing three dvds simultaneously on the dynamics of the project,
* marketing (image)
* maximizing earnings potential
* equipment and logistics
* crowd feedback and after dark moments performing at various venues (fun stuff)
* interpersonal relationships both positive and negative among the various busker disciplines i.e. pyschics, balloon workers, other magicians, etc...

I'm posting a blog update tomorrow Mr.Miklos.

I wish to point out, one of the venues we blog about "Seaport Village", is the same spot where Jimmy Talks-Too Much, errr I mean Talks-Alot works and posts about, so you'll have a different opinion on the venue and it's dynamics. Deano the marketing guru from Reno also used to busk there, when he was living in this area.

Have a wonderful evening gang!
Message: Posted by: The Great Zoobini (Aug 29, 2011 04:47PM)
[quote]
On 2011-08-29 00:53, Devious wrote:
It's certainly my pleasure to document it. I'm thankful that our little dysfunctional sidewalk crew family here are reading it!

I've had many personal messages with some wonderful advice and questions. I thank you for each them.

A video crew is documenting most of the days run. It's a two month shoot to insure that we capture as much material from occasional situational circumstances. Some moments are having to be re-shot due to lighting issues. The videos are being edited at the moment, but look for the uploads very soon.

We are producing three dvds simultaneously on the dynamics of the project,
* marketing (image)
* maximizing earnings potential
* equipment and logistics
* crowd feedback and after dark moments performing at various venues (fun stuff)
* interpersonal relationships both positive and negative among the various busker disciplines i.e. pyschics, balloon workers, other magicians, etc...

I'm posting a blog update tomorrow Mr.Miklos.

I wish to point out, one of the venues we blog about "Seaport Village", is the same spot where Jimmy Talks-Too Much, errr I mean Talks-Alot works and posts about, so you'll have a different opinion on the venue and it's dynamics. Deano the marketing guru from Reno also used to busk there, when he was living in this area.

Have a wonderful evening gang!
[/quote]

You may be interested in another docu but it's not instructional
http://www.thebuskingproject.com
Message: Posted by: Devious (Aug 29, 2011 10:30PM)
Thank you so much Mr. Zoobini! I took some time to peruse the site. I thoroughly enjoyed going through most of it. Thanks so much for the resource.

Say, has anyone ever told you that Rocco of D'Lite fame looks like you?
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Sep 22, 2011 11:55AM)
A lot of people have been wondering what I've been up to, because I havn't been on the net inna while.

so I posted about all the projects I am doing for the next two months. this includes pitches, products and lectures.

also if some one wanted to learn from me, but they ain't got any money this blog post would be good to be able to find me to study.

http://jimmytalksalot.blogspot.com/2011/09/jimmy-talksalot-lecture.html

also, I wrote about my experience meeting denny at denny and lee's

what an incredable magician, so fortunate to have met him.
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Oct 10, 2011 06:44PM)
Me and Sonny are gonna be in workin sidewalks in vegas.

yep,

the great master Sonny Holliday will be workin next week, on the greatest show business sidewalks in this country,

since we're gonna be in town for our lecture at denny's in vegas, we're gonna be workin the sidewalks in vegas, so if y'all wanna give us a holler or watch our shows while we're out buskin come on down.

if your a big Sonny fan this is a once inna life time thing.

just went and checked it out and vegas is the sidewalk performers dream....miles of very very small sidewalk pitches only large enough for doorway acts with thousands of people walkin by.

I have been donating my fees,hotel pay, and now, any unsold inventory, to denny to show my support for his new free magic school he's putin together.

I'll be writing an artical about this monumental school later.

things are looking up for the beginner who doesn't have the funds to start their new life in magic.
Message: Posted by: Dave V (Oct 11, 2011 02:36PM)
Let me know when you find a spot, I'll see if I can find you.
Message: Posted by: G.Gilbert (Oct 11, 2011 07:31PM)
I'll be there in December
Message: Posted by: Devious (Oct 15, 2011 11:43PM)
Jimmy Talks Alot,
Welcome back to San Diego!

It was nice catching up with you today out in the field. I left after the winds started picking up. Too bad "The Godfather of Magic" came around and disrupted our discussion.

Have a safe flight to Vegas!
Message: Posted by: Dave V (Oct 18, 2011 06:08PM)
Jimmy is out making a living so I thought I'd post this.

His Lecture last night was a hit! About 10-15 Las Vegas magicians got to see two masters at work. Not only did we get Jimmy, but he brought Sonny Holliday with him.

Sonny opened the evening with his street show. Not many knew that he was seriously injured in 2009, but you couldn't tell by his flawless performance. The audience reactions were rather low-key, which is to be expected I suppose for a magician audience already seated with no chance to "build" a crowd. I would have done away with the chairs and given them the freedom to "mold" us as they pleased.

Jimmy followed with a shortened version of his show, then the real fun began.

Rather than a structured lecture, it turned into a sit down bull session with Jimmy, Sonny, and one Jimmy's students (Robert?) that I had not seen before. Questions were freely answered, often drifting off into story telling of various street experiences from each of them.

The entire experience lasted about 2 1/2 hours with Sonny and Robert anxious to head to the "Strip" and urging a very tired Jimmy to go with them and get in some evening shows before calling it a night.
Message: Posted by: Devious (Oct 18, 2011 06:31PM)
[img]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Q511f1M_qiA/TPatJM6KJRI/AAAAAAAAAlw/l7kkWs2tDHc/s1600/27062_101112349924606_100000775255790_30702_3196041_n.jpg[/img]
Not Robert, "Chappelino"
I'm glad you enjoyed the lecture Dave.
Message: Posted by: MagiCol (Oct 18, 2011 07:21PM)
"About 10-15 Las Vegas magicians got to see two masters at work."
I think they were part of a historical meeting that in times to come people will long to have been present at.
Message: Posted by: G.Gilbert (Oct 18, 2011 09:04PM)
Not Robert, or Chappelino.

He used to do the Charlie Chaplin character but not anymore. He still does whiteface but his new performance name is "Chanz"..

his actual name is Roger
Message: Posted by: unilogo (Oct 19, 2011 01:08PM)
The physical stage presence of real 'workers' is inspirational. You can not experience that through: The internet, videos or books.

Sure, we learned valuable new theories. But most of the concepts from the lecture are on Jimmy's excellent blog. And we had a talent for asking bad questions. :)

Personally, it was nice meeting: Roger, Dave, Chris & Johnny...

Good times! With great magicians and even better people.

Thank you; Jimmy & Sonnny.
Message: Posted by: Paddy (Oct 27, 2011 04:41PM)
I couldn't make the lectures but I just received the notes from Denny & Lee. They are worth one heck of a lot more than what I paid for them!! Just like his book, Jimmy gives you HEART and soul of being a busker. He lets you know that it's hard work, but also the finest way to live. Jimmy you kicked my butt with these notes and got me going again. I was staying home and feeling sorry for myself but these notes helped me see the light again.

Jimmy shows you how to structure your show, how to draw the edge, even how to survive working in a small town. This is information that anyone who busks needs to know. Thanks Jimmy.
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Dec 30, 2011 11:48AM)
Thanks a lot paddy.

I am hopefully going to start writing more articals soon.

so keep an eye out for them.
Message: Posted by: Devious (Jan 16, 2012 02:06PM)
It was very nice catchin' up with you over this busy weekend Brother Jimmy.
You Rock!

I overheard some folks in the parking lot talking about how much fun your show was and they
kept repeating some of your pitch lines....great stuff my man!

Fred was super impressed with how you managed your groups.
He's a professional "Handler".

See you soon!
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Feb 13, 2012 10:58PM)
I'm back in new orleans.

sorry I haven't written much in my blog I have a few articals I have always wanted to write that are in my head, but I haven't had the time.

I'm gonna try and get to them out there soon.

I have been swamped with personal stuff. I am so glad to hear that so many people have gottin so much from the blog.

if you wanna learn how to busk or have questions, I'm pretty sure any questions you have are already answered there.

here's the link.

http://jimmytalksalot.blogspot.com/
Message: Posted by: Ekuth (Feb 16, 2012 02:18PM)
Jimmy;

Just got your book yesterday and devoured it in one sitting. Thank you- so much- for distilling your experience down and telling it straight up and laying it all out.

To the rest of you who haven't got "Lure with Spectacle" yet:

WTH are you waiting for! Buy the man's book already; it's G-O-L-D.

Now, if y'all will pardon me, I'm off to re-read and take notes before I hit the pitch.
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Feb 16, 2012 08:18PM)
Glad it hit the spot. the book is things a lot of old masters told me to write down in the book, as you may have seen many of them listed in the back of the book. it was their guideness that gave me a career and I am forever indebted to them.

I love my job. I am spoiled I can never again go work a "real job" and I hope the same for you if this is the life you want to choose.

thank you again for all the kind words.

also please remember I have free blog, that is good primer also.

your pal jimmy.
Message: Posted by: Mystical Matthew (Feb 23, 2012 07:36PM)
Wow! I just spent the afternoon reading through this entire thread...

So... Um... Guys? Do you think I should read Jimmy's blog? Is there anything worthwhile over there? 'Cause I'm kinda on the fence... lol! J/K! ;-)

Thanks for posting all this... Lots of good info in here. Did one guy seriously start a money collecting competition with garbage bags? That's... Wow... Just wow... Tackiness level infinity! ;-)
Message: Posted by: ibraa (Feb 24, 2012 05:52PM)
There are some useful post here, glad I've found this topic!
Message: Posted by: Mystical Matthew (Feb 25, 2012 05:58PM)
Holy crap... Just finished Jimmy's blog. Amazing stuff there! It's more than just "street stuff". There's a lot about business and what it means to be a magician.

Everyone should read through this. Don't let the spelling and grammar fool you. This is a platinum mine...
Message: Posted by: Eduardo (Feb 25, 2012 06:25PM)
[quote]
On 2012-02-25 18:58, Mystical Matthew wrote:
Holy crap... Just finished Jimmy's blog. Amazing stuff there! It's more than just "street stuff". There's a lot about business and what it means to be a magician.

Everyone should read through this. Don't let the spelling and grammar fool you. This is a platinum mine...
[/quote]

Really??????????

that's what I'm saying since I read it!!!!
But nobody hears...

Much better than those dvds you have...
Message: Posted by: Devious (Apr 6, 2012 10:55AM)
Great thoughts in here from many folks if ya' haven't read them gang.
Message: Posted by: MagiCol (Apr 8, 2012 12:24AM)
It's five years since Jimmy's book came out, and I've had my copy for about 4 years. I find that the book as relevant as ever. In my copy I've got pencilled underlinings, margin linings, post it arrows in many places, reminder and comment notes I've added. And I keep it beside my bed and re-read parts of it because as it says in the Publishers Forward in front of the book
"This is a manual intended first for careful study, and then for repeat review as your experience begins to catch up with some of the ideas and concepts you will read about."

Thanks, again, Jimmy for this outstanding book, and to Leaping Lizards Magic for publishing it.
Message: Posted by: Jeff Christensen (Apr 9, 2012 06:26PM)
Can anyone provide a link on where to pick up Jimmy's book To Lure with Spectacle? I've been reading through his Blogs and find them very useful.
Message: Posted by: Devious (Apr 9, 2012 07:11PM)
Here ya go Jeff!
[url=http://www.leapinglizardsmagic.com/csspages/css_lure_with_spectacle.htm]To Lure With Spectacle[/url]
Message: Posted by: andini1 (Apr 15, 2012 02:16PM)
Thanks for a great site, Jimmy!
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (May 27, 2012 10:55AM)
Thanks y'all for all the kind words and I'm am glad the blog has helped so many at http://jimmytalksalot.blogspot.com/

also I have just wrote a couple of profiles on the who's who blog.

GRNDL, Birdie McClaine, Kris Bentz,and Tony Button.

you can check em out and go search for more on them on the net.

http://sidewalkperformerswhoswho.blogspot.com/


I still have a lot to write on them and some corrections in spelling and so on, so I hope you can bear with me.
Message: Posted by: Hawkan (Jul 25, 2012 03:27PM)
Planning on getting out next summer again. Time to re-read this thread and Jimmys´book.

:wavey:
Håkan
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Aug 22, 2012 06:12PM)
Just went to saint wendel to compete in the street magicians competition. and I wrote about it on my blog.

jimmytalksalot.blogspot.com

if you haven't heard of my free instructional blog for busking I hope it helps you.
Message: Posted by: Magician Shaun (Aug 23, 2012 07:27AM)
Jimmy,

By the time I had gone out on the Street the third time, I had read your blog at least 2 times. I still refer to it when I have a question about something.

Thanks!
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Aug 23, 2012 08:39AM)
Thank you so much.

I hope the best for you.
Message: Posted by: TRUMPETMAN (Aug 23, 2012 10:17AM)
Just discovered your blog. Yeah, I know, I am late to the party, but enjoying it nonetheless. Spent most of the night reading your blog, over and over. Awesome stuff. NOLA is blessed to have you, man.
Message: Posted by: Tamariz (Aug 27, 2012 07:15PM)
The blog and your book are all wonderful...thanks for sharing Jimmy!
Message: Posted by: Atlas (Sep 6, 2012 07:50PM)
Just found the blog through this thread.

Very scintillating stuff! I have recommended it to several friends!

A very hearty thank you!
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Dec 28, 2012 11:43AM)
Also,

I just put some more profiles up on the who's who.

http://sidewalkperformerswhoswho.blogspot.com/

I put up-gary animal, devious, nickey fynn, rod cannon, and the tango dancers anibal and valeria.

this is a free blog, which I make no money from, it is done to simply help out those who don't have the funds to learn and for those great performers who don't get the credit I feel they deserve
Message: Posted by: djurmann (Dec 28, 2012 01:27PM)
Thank you for the link....that is AWESOME!!!!!
Message: Posted by: imgic (Dec 28, 2012 04:33PM)
[quote]
On 2012-12-28 12:43, jimmy talksalot wrote:
Also,

I just put some more profiles up on the who's who.

http://sidewalkperformerswhoswho.blogspot.com/

I put up-gary animal, devious, nickey fynn, rod cannon, and the tango dancers anibal and valeria.

this is a free blog, which I make no money from, it is done to simply help out those who don't have the funds to learn and for those great performers who don't get the credit I feel they deserve
[/quote]

Let me second the thanks for the link...great stuff!

Really appreciate your insight, and the time you take to do things like writing up other magicians and compiling video clips to boot.

Thanks Jimmy!
Message: Posted by: howlinhobbit (Dec 29, 2012 12:03PM)
Just read this whole thread and watched the video of Jimmy someone posted. as I'm in the process of switching (back) to magic from music in my busking, I'll be reading more on his blog.

but I've got to say, Jimmy, that wand and handkerchief routine is some of the most simple, elegant and stunning magic I've seen in a long time. simply wonderful.
Message: Posted by: Gary T. (Dec 29, 2012 03:22PM)
You should just write a book and get it over with. I'll proof read it for spelling and grammar for a small fee of 5% profit and a free copy. :D
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Mar 25, 2013 12:58PM)
Hi,

I have not written much recently, sorry.

folks have always asked me to write some of my busking adventure stories so I started some on the blog.

here's a link to two of them;

http://jimmytalksalot.blogspot.com/2013/03/i-am-jimmy-giant-slayer.html

http://jimmytalksalot.blogspot.com/2013/03/in-village-there-can-be-only-one.html

I hope y'all have fat hats.
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Mar 25, 2013 01:00PM)
Oh and thanks for all the kind words.

and gary, I did write a book lol.
Message: Posted by: troppobob (Mar 26, 2013 03:08AM)
G'day Jimmy
Great to see you posting again.
BTW I read that book again and again - good value read.
Bob Latta (aka Troppo Bob)
Message: Posted by: shaihorowitz0 (Apr 2, 2013 10:15AM)
Just found this blog and spent the last hour reading, Still reading just wanted to say thanks
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Jul 14, 2013 12:43PM)
I notice this thread hasn't been up for a while and a lot of people have been asking me about my written work so I thought I'd put the link;

http://jimmytalksalot.blogspot.com/

if you go to the first dated posts on the educational blog you will see all the beginners questions answered.

I hope this helps everyone, I don't make any money of of this and I don't sell ads...nothing...

I did it to give back to my brother magi for all the help I got from my teachers.
Message: Posted by: Devious (Sep 24, 2013 10:26PM)
I wish to thank you Jimmy for being gracious enough to include a chapter
in my upcoming project release. I know that you are currently still on the road,
but do try to take some time to enjoy your surroundings apart from work!

P.S.
Please say, "Hi" to [b]BIGGIE SMALLS[/b] for me before you leave for you know where.
Message: Posted by: Devious (Nov 17, 2013 04:29PM)
It was great catching up with you Jimmy.
Not missin' much, keep stackin' on the road!
Sleeveless sends his best, Chanz is AWOL.
Message: Posted by: WilliamMckeehan (Nov 20, 2013 09:29PM)
I wish my life was interesting like yours. LOL!
Message: Posted by: Lundonia (Nov 21, 2013 06:42PM)
A huge THANK YOU for all the posts in your blog Jimmy Talksalot!

I have been doing the regular corporate/table hopping thing for a few years but the romatic side of busking has always intrigued me. I have been fantasising about trying the streets for years just for the art and the challenge of it. I know it's hard work and only pure skill will count. I have hesitated, not because I feared that I wouldn't have the technical skills but maybe lacking the special kind of audience management and ability to build a crowd.

Your blog has given me a lot of answers and a lot of insight. Mainly to just go out and do it and EARN your lessons. What could be fairer than that? Thanks again Jimmy, I will keep reading, practising and routining and I will try the streets in the spring time for sure.
Message: Posted by: fireperformer911 (Jul 2, 2014 10:04PM)
Going back and reading these posts SOME GREAT INFO
Message: Posted by: Devious (Jul 2, 2014 10:07PM)
That's a fact, Jimmy has moved on.
I thought folks had been made aware.
I sure miss Jimmy with all of my heart.

Please send his family all of your
positive thoughts.
Message: Posted by: MagiCol (Jul 2, 2014 10:44PM)
Devious, could you expand on your last post.
I haven't hear of this from anybody else.
Message: Posted by: imgic (Jul 3, 2014 03:40PM)
Devious' proclamation of Jimmy's departure is greatly exaggerated and premature...

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=558173&forum=6
Message: Posted by: The Great Zoobini (Jul 9, 2014 11:33AM)
Then he not daid? :blackeye:
Message: Posted by: jimmy talksalot (Jul 9, 2014 12:48PM)
I don't think so.
Message: Posted by: silvercup (Jul 9, 2014 12:58PM)
Be safe and get a second opinion.
Message: Posted by: tboehnlein (Jul 16, 2014 03:17PM)
What kind of crazy post was that Devious?
Message: Posted by: troppobob (Oct 31, 2014 11:29PM)
G'day Jimmy and felow busking magicians

Jimmy I am gald to see that you have recovered form your recently reported demise.

Yes this series of dicussions and the links to you blog and the book are a valuable resource for the beginners and well worh a re-read from time to time.

Bob Latta (aka Troppo Bob)