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Topic: What is the best site(s) to buy trick downloads from?
Message: Posted by: Magic46 (Nov 3, 2007 08:18AM)
Would appreciate any views as to the best magic sites for buying trick downloads of all kinds. Thanks
Message: Posted by: Andrew Loh (Nov 3, 2007 08:29AM)
I think the following are my favourites and high recommended download sites:

1. http://www.peterduffie.com
2. http://shop.tomstone.se
3. http://www.lybrary.com
4. http://www.magic-notes.com
Message: Posted by: zgecko (Nov 3, 2007 08:56AM)
Another excellent source is http://www.trickshop.com!

Tom
Message: Posted by: Mb217 (Nov 3, 2007 10:19AM)
A good one is http://www.VinnyMarini.com

Loads of wonderful effects at a great value. :) -Mb
Message: Posted by: michaelmystic2003 (Nov 3, 2007 11:40AM)
http://emagicsupply.com/112.html has some hot new stuff like Diplopia, ICON, and Stop The Presses!
Message: Posted by: Ethan the emazing (Nov 3, 2007 05:58PM)
I second lybrary.com I love there customer service and thier products.
Message: Posted by: Chris (Nov 4, 2007 07:25AM)
I am certainly biased since I am the owner of Lybrary.com, but since I have lived in this 'magic download' space for nearly a decade I can give you a few suggestions.

There are a number of high profile magicians who offer their ebooks through their own website. The ones that come to mind are Peter Duffie, Tom Stone, Jon Racherbaumer, Michael Close and Bob Cassidy. Of course there are many other magicians I am missing here who offer some download products online but they are too many to list here quickly. So one option is to look for the author online and see if they offer their products for download. The biggest problem with these are that these are by nature 'on the side' shops where you might have to wait a few days to get a response, or where the server might be down more often than with other sites, or where you might run into other technical problems. However, the benefit is that you have the opportunity to interact with the author directly which can be very helpful if you have any issues with the contents of the ebook.

Peter Duffie in particular was one of the first to embrace the digital medium and is a very prolific ebook writer. Michael Close has followed my lead to include video clips in his ebooks. Tom Stone does a beautiful design job and Jon offers a unique point of view. Bob Cassidy is a genius in my opinion but unreliable when it comes to following up on orders. This combination is actually quite typical. Often the more creative artists are not good business people and it is not a good idea for them to sell their own wares. That is why we have dealers who make the dealing their profession.

Some online magic shops have recently started to offer ebooks but I have yet to see anybody beside my own Lybrary to really embrace it whole heartedly. The Lybrary has without a doubt the largest collection of magic ebooks with over 500 products and I am the only shop that has embraced ebooks for more than 7 years. All other shops treat it as one of many product lines they serve. The online and digital world moves fast and unless a dealer dedicates his full energy towards downloads you the customer will run the risk of receiving less then top service.

To give you one example. The Lybrary offers you free permanent downloads for your ebooks. All your purchases are placed into a 'digital shelf' from which you can re-download them anytime you wish. I am also constantly streamlining the website to make it faster, easier to use and more convenient for you. This means there is no need to wait for a human to email you a PDF which might get caught in a spam filter or might be too large for your email server to accept. When you get a new computer you just download your entire ebook shelf again. There is nobody you need to ask for permission, there are no individual authors to contact etc. I would also think that the likelihood of Lybrary to be around in a decade is higher than the average magicians website.

I am looking into a number of other features to better serve my customers. I am frequently online and can be reached by email, phone or on various forums. So if a problem should occur you will always quickly get directly to me and we can sort it out. I am sure there are many here on the Café who can attest to my speed and fairness when it comes to resolving customer issues.

Ebooks are for the Lybrary all we do. That is why we think we are clearly the best place to shop as well as the best place for authors to sell their downloadable products.
Message: Posted by: Devilix (Nov 6, 2007 08:31AM)
Anyone know if Lybrary send the files after the transaction or we need to wait for them to do it manually?

thanks
Message: Posted by: Y2John (Nov 6, 2007 08:55AM)
They are instant... they appear in your account
Message: Posted by: bevbevvybev (Nov 6, 2007 10:44AM)
Of course, http://www.outlaw-effects.com make some awesome stuff, and all my downloads are now exclusively on there under 'The Parlour'

Also don't forget all of Enrique Enriquez's cool stuff which can be downloaded from Loren Tindall's site http://www.mevproshop.com/
Message: Posted by: Chris (Nov 6, 2007 07:15PM)
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On 2007-11-06 09:31, Devilix wrote:
Anyone know if Lybrary send the files after the transaction or we need to wait for them to do it manually?

thanks
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In the vast majority of cases the download is enabled immediately. However, sometimes the handshake between the Lybrary server and Paypal can take a while, or in rare cases never occurs and then we have to do it manually, but this is the exception. Paypal is unfortunately not the fastest when it comes to sending notification of the transaction to the merchant.

Sometimes customers who opt to pay with Paypal use an eCheck rather than a direct balance transfer. Clearing of an eCheck can take a few days, which means that your download will only be enabled once the eCheck clears.
Message: Posted by: Dustin Baker (Nov 6, 2007 11:45PM)
I second emagicsupply.com
Message: Posted by: Aerie24 (Nov 7, 2007 04:08AM)
In http://allootw.googlepages.com you´ll find a free OOTW
Message: Posted by: "Muggs" (Jan 28, 2008 01:43PM)
Although Chris' post on 11/04/07 may be considered biased, I have been a satisfied customer of Lybrary.com for some time now and can attest to everything he stated. I have yet to find a comparable online E-Book source that could match his. Highly recommended!
Message: Posted by: daver (Jan 28, 2008 02:16PM)
Let me also offer an endorsement to lybrary.com. IMHO, the biggest feature is the permanent downloadability of your purchases.

To elaborate - you download. Cool. Your PC takes a dump. If you've not backed up, as many people do not, you're SOL and have to go back and find where you bought each item and deal with getting reauthorized (i.e. "your download link is good for 10 days" from other sites).

Also, another situation arose recently for me, where, while I do back up, I got something from someone not on lybrary, and I misplaced it. I'd not had the chance to categorize it nor back it up yet, and the file was not named something I was able to easily search on (okay, my own fault) but had it all been on lybrary, I could have re-obtained it rather than search for like 5 hrs for it (yes, I did finally find it...)

So yes, Chris has a great model here - for purchasers, great. For authors, use it if you can.... please...
Message: Posted by: motown (Jan 28, 2008 02:21PM)
The e-books I've ordered from Tom Stone have come instantly. The ones I've gotten from Peter Duffie have come very quick. It's always nice to buy from the creators.
Message: Posted by: Medifro (Jan 28, 2008 02:40PM)
I've had an excellent experience with http://www.lybrary.com , I always check there first if the ebook I'm looking for is there.

Excellent website, highly recommended, bought more than 10 ebooks from there, no complaints, instant service as well.

~ Feras
Message: Posted by: Donny Orbit (Jan 28, 2008 02:42PM)
http://www.Lybrary.com is sweet (plug) and so is http://www.full52.com (Plug)

You can get my ebook at both, as well as material from another member here on the Café, Cameron Francis.

DO
Message: Posted by: Randy B (Jan 28, 2008 03:09PM)
Also try http://www.magicshop.co.uk
Message: Posted by: Jay Crowe (Jan 29, 2008 06:11PM)
I would say ours :bwink:
Message: Posted by: Majestic12 (Jan 29, 2008 06:11PM)
I also like Full52 , Fresh Mint is one of my favorites.
Message: Posted by: DLF (Feb 1, 2008 05:54PM)
I would have to say lybrary.com followed by trickshop.com.

DLF
Message: Posted by: Spellbinder (Feb 2, 2008 07:35AM)
The ONLY place where you can buy Magic Nook e-Book effects (authored by myself, Jim Gerrish, Eleazar Goodenough, Fred Goode, Stephen Christopher or Magicbob) is from magicnook.com . We have opted to operate the site manually, usually by myself because I am retired and sit in front of the computer all day anyway. However, I do go on short vacations (One coming up! Hurray!) and go to the bathroom,etc., so you can't always get hold of me 24/7, but we have so far been able to live up to our promise to respond to all e-mails and fill all orders within 24 hours. I also get a lot of instant messages from customers during the late night (in New Jersey) hours.

The difference between our customer service and that of lybrary.com is that we know our own products inside and out, and so we can discuss them with you, magician to magician, "hold your hand" as you build them and answer questions about technical performance details. We can even (gasp!) answer technical questions about effects you haven't yet purchased, just as if you were in a real brick and mortar shop and are trying to decide if the effect is right for you and your act.

Because we are a limited product magic store, we can often provide hard to find props that are mentioned in our e-Books, like the magnifying lens for Jim Gerrish's Optical Delusionator... just as a convenience for our e-Book customers.

Our Independent Authors (like Magicbob) operate by the same rules - 24 hour response time and we are there to back them up. Each author, Independent or Staff, also receives 100% of the proceeds from sales of his materials (not counting the percentage taken by PayPal for processing), rather than the 40% offered by lybrary.com.

We have also pioneered the "Separate Individual Article" concept for e-Book collections. Have you ever purchased an entire magic book or e-Book because it contained one trick in which you were interested? Me, too! Wouldn't it be nice to be able to buy just the one trick you want without spending money on the entire book? That's the "Separate Individual Article" concept. Each article in any given e-Book collection can be purchased separately. So if you are looking at Magicbob's "I Hate Card Tricks" e-Book, but only want to buy "The Disembodied Prince" (for example) you can do so.
Message: Posted by: tian_ci (Feb 2, 2008 08:49AM)
Yeah, but Lybray has better titles and easier navigation. All those tiles and front page web design quality scares me. I've been impressed with Chris' customer service as it seems top notch!

Just wanted to add my two cents.
Message: Posted by: tian_ci (Feb 2, 2008 08:49AM)
Yeah, but Lybray has better titles and easier navigation. All those tiles and front page web design quality scares me. I've been impressed with Chris' customer service as it seems top notch!

Just wanted to add my two cents.
Message: Posted by: BIlly James (Feb 2, 2008 10:24PM)
I'll give another HUGE vote to Lybrary.com.

I've bought a lot of books from them over the years and highly recommend them for the range, speed of delivery and customer service.

The magic nook may have some good titles but as far as customer service is concerned I have always found them wanting.

Cheers
Message: Posted by: Spellbinder (Feb 4, 2008 06:07PM)
Your reactions to my post make me think you perceived me as perhaps attacking lybrary.com . I wasn't. I am also a fan of lybrary.com and agree that their range of materials is larger, the speed of delivery is faster, and their customer service is good.

I was merely pointing out the differences between their products and services and mine, and why we choose to do things the way we do, Front Page Web site and all (I've never been criticized before on the software I use to produce my Web site...I wonder that what has to do with magic? Oh, well, there's no pleasing some folks.)
Message: Posted by: Mik (Feb 13, 2008 08:54PM)
SO far I ten to prefer lybrary.com, I like that if I crash my 'puter, and lose my burned disk I can download them again.
Message: Posted by: kannon (Feb 14, 2008 06:59AM)
http://www.penguinmagic.com

http://ebswitch.googlepages.com/home < for the Switchcraft download
Message: Posted by: Mb217 (Feb 14, 2008 08:45AM)
I'd check out http://www.VinnyMarini.com

The Godfather Vinny has a nice collection of downloads from some really good young magis doing coins, cards, whatever. His offerings are always at great values, very affordable for some really good magic that you'll use and have at your fingertips forever.

You want value, check out the "Crimp Change" (direct link below) there, just $10 bucks for a remarkable piece of doable coin magic. And look for the newest offering on some great coin magic called, "MB's Short Pockets." You'll love this stuff and there's a whole lot more in the download section. Check it out. :)
Message: Posted by: ElliottB (Feb 14, 2008 10:23PM)
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On 2008-02-14 07:59, kannon wrote:
http://www.penguinmagic.com

http://ebswitch.googlepages.com/home < for the Switchcraft download
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Kannon,

Thank you so much for providing that link and for placing Switchcraft on this list of best download sites.

I appreciate it.

Elliott Bresler
Message: Posted by: Chris (Feb 15, 2008 03:22PM)
Thank you all for your trust in Lybrary.com. I really do appreciate it and it makes my efforts so much more rewarding. I am in the middle of creating a new awesome feature for my website, never done before in magic, which will make the Lybrary ebooks that much more valuable to you.