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Topic: Safety Hole Lite by Menny Lindenfeld
Message: Posted by: gitty (Nov 21, 2007 04:12PM)
I would love to read a review of this new lite version of Menny Lindenfeld's SAFETY HOLE LITE.
It's now selling at HocusPocus.
Message: Posted by: evolve629 (Nov 21, 2007 05:43PM)
Not sure how lite it can be - as the original Safety Hole is the size of a credit card. I lost this one but recall it's a great trick that I carried in my wallet.
Message: Posted by: THEGUY26 (Will Swanson) (Nov 21, 2007 05:49PM)
It's supposed to be the same, but easier.
Message: Posted by: evolve629 (Nov 22, 2007 01:44PM)
Come to think of it, the original Safety Hole is no longer available for sale..
Message: Posted by: BrianMillerMagic (Nov 22, 2007 03:07PM)
I too loved the original version. Great little effect as long as you use your own handling (I did not like the handling that was included in the description). No idea about the new lite version, or what that would even mean.
Message: Posted by: magicstudent (Nov 22, 2007 10:58PM)
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On 2007-11-22 14:44, evolve629 wrote:
Come to think of it, the original Safety Hole is no longer available for sale..
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I think it is still available here:
http://themagicwarehouse.com/cgi-bin/findit.pl?x_item=SP4841

Jeff
Message: Posted by: indomagic (Nov 23, 2007 12:40AM)
Just curious how it is differ with orinal safety hole. It said this one can be used from beginner performer.
Message: Posted by: sabitu (Nov 30, 2007 04:11PM)
There are a couple of differences between Safety Hole Lite and the original Safety Hole. This version uses a simpler handling and it eliminates the final phase from the original where 3 holes appear on the credit card. The switch used in this version utilizes one of those cheap plastic card wallets while the original used more of an "out in the open" switch.

I do not own the original Safety Hole but I am familiar with the workings. I actually prefer the handling of the original compared to the new version. I have performed Safety Hole Lite several times now using the handling from the original version and it has gotten good reactions. The thing I don't like about the new handling is that it involves putting the credit card into the provided card wallet and then removing it again which looks a little unnatural. I'd rather use my everyday wallet instead since it makes more sense to carry a credit card in this.

I kind of wish Safety Hole Lite still included the final third phase where 3 holes appear, but unfortunately this is not possible. One good thing about this is that you can show the credit card more freely at the beginning of the effect. Overall I like this effect and the included routine is easier to perform than the original which was the main purpose of this version. The easier switch does provide a less clean looking handling compared to the original which is the biggest drawback in my opinion. But it really isn't that hard to come up with your own handling using your own wallet.

Matt
Message: Posted by: doriancaudal (Jan 20, 2012 03:51AM)
Here is a new version (2.0): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAtEhwCCx5w&feature=digest_fri

Do you know if the card can be your real card? I mean that you can pay with it for real at the end of the trick... Otherwise, it would be disappointing to present it like in the trailer and then not be able to pay with it! :)
Message: Posted by: Cameron Francis (Jan 20, 2012 08:42AM)
You cannot use that card to pay. Therefore you cannot present it like in the trailer. Unless you put the hole back and then say that you'll just use another card.
Message: Posted by: doriancaudal (Jan 20, 2012 08:46AM)
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On 2012-01-20 09:42, Cameron Francis wrote:
Therefore you cannot present it like in the trailer.
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Here is the problem... Thanks Cameron for saving me money ;)
Message: Posted by: NOCTURNOWL (Jan 20, 2012 08:51AM)
Hmm... Safety Hole... great name for sure.
Message: Posted by: Hugh Entwistle (Jan 22, 2012 03:00AM)
Could someone tell me how practical this effect is, what are the angles, does it come WITH a gimmicked card or can you use your own (it could be an old one, I'm aware that you can't pay with it) and the set up process - how long is it, do you need much other stuff and can you, once it being setup, put it into your wallet for a while or do you need to walk up to someone and perform it after set up.
Message: Posted by: magician81 (Jan 22, 2012 04:10AM)
Hi all,

I just got it couple of days back, and this is really a worker. You will receive everything needed to perform this effect. Of course, there is a video tutorial by Menny, showing the different ways of 'moving' the hole. I do not think the reason for not able to use the credit card to pay is a reason for not getting this effect. You can come up with a patter that, the hole is to safeguard your credit card and you can move it as and when you need to.

No set up, just put this in your wallet will do. You do not need to get extra stuff to make this work,etc. Instead reset. Of course, similar to many magic tricks, just make sure no one is behind you when performing.
Message: Posted by: onairnow (Jan 23, 2012 02:18PM)
Hi,

I really like the look of this effect. I emailed the guys at World Magic Shop asking what was included and they quickly got back in touch saying that everything I'd need is in the box; I'm glad I don't need to punch holes in any of my own cards but wonder if the included card is obviously *not* a real card? Does it look overly fake or, if you're working this, do the spectators tend not to notice?

I'm pretty much a novice but like the 'beginner friendly' feel of this and the fact that it can always live in my wallet is appealing. Any other users got any fresh opinions/recommendations on this?
Message: Posted by: Ray Chelt (Jan 23, 2012 02:40PM)
Call me cynical but the editing of that demo video does nothing to persuade me that there aren't at least two cards involved -- neither of which would be your real card.

Card shown that looks normal except for hole then a cutaway to then come back to a card on which you can see the hole move...then presumably another cutaway before we go back to the original card with the hole in it.
Message: Posted by: sabitu (Jan 23, 2012 07:40PM)
You receive two cards, one gimmicked and one normal card (with a hole in it). When you move the hole from the magnetic strip to the opposite side, you use only your hand as cover as you slide the hole across the card. Before handing the card out for examination, you must perform a s****h for the normal card.

The effect is very easy to do and the credit card looks more realistic than other credit card effects on the market. I usually tell people that it's a one of those junk mail credit cards that everyone has received at some point.
Message: Posted by: magician81 (Jan 23, 2012 09:02PM)
Hi guys,

Yes, you can't use the card for your purchases. But you can also come up with your own patter when performing. Something like, how to safeguard your credit card when you are not using it, or like what Sabitu said above, it's one of the junk credit cards received in the mail, etc.....my point is 'look outside' of the demo and see how you can perform this. I performed it last night during a family gathering, and received good reactions.

Simple and easy to do. Instant reset. And you can give it out for examination after a switch. You will receive everything needed for this switch. And of course, detailed instructions from the creator. I give top marks to Menny for this effect. 97%. Defintely my 'worker of the week.'
Message: Posted by: magician81 (Jan 24, 2012 05:45AM)
Also I think it's not right to watch the demo, and speculate on the methods, and try to make it your own. Give some due respect for the creator. Cheers.
Message: Posted by: gdw (Jan 24, 2012 09:10AM)
Doesn't Sankey have a hole effect identical in method but with playing cards?
Message: Posted by: sabitu (Jan 24, 2012 09:34AM)
Sankey has a moving hole effect called Moving Violation, but the method is completely different than Safety Hole. Safety Hole is much cleaner and easier to do in my opinion.
Message: Posted by: Kevin Schaller (Jan 25, 2012 12:58PM)
I love the trailer and I love the look of the trick, will order this once it's available for me.
Message: Posted by: jayder (Jan 25, 2012 01:35PM)
I got this years ago and it just came with written instructions.This gets great reactions and the angles are actually pretty good.The switch involved is actually easy and flies past people.I got Restored Credit and sold it on as Safety Hole will sill remain my Credit card trick.
Message: Posted by: jprace (Jan 25, 2012 07:53PM)
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On 2012-01-24 10:34, sabitu wrote:
Sankey has a moving hole effect called Moving Violation, but the method is completely different than Safety Hole. Safety Hole is much cleaner and easier to do in my opinion.
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I think he was referring to "Public Transit" by Sankey.
http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/476
Message: Posted by: Hugh Entwistle (Jan 29, 2012 07:21AM)
So the gimmick you get, is it good quality and how are the angles? SUrrounded, Front On, Sides
Message: Posted by: MagicD48 (Jan 31, 2012 06:09AM)
Hmmmm, I've just been having a think about this:
I have the original safety hole with the awesome 3 hole finishing stage. Its one of my favourite effects and I carry it all the time.
I dread the day my card(s) start to look worn out and knackered. The phase at the end with 3 holes appearing has always been the strongest part of the routine for me. This is where I get the gasps. If its not being sold any more then I will eventually loose this phase forever.... or will I?...

I just thought, how simple is it to just recreate the old version using the supplied components:
Imagine punching 2 more holes in the non-gimmicked card, one each side of the supplied(?) hole.
AFTER the s****c takes place the non gimmicked card would normally then be displayed both sides, then shook, to reveal 3 holes.
However the hole used to be at the end, it is now in the middle, so...
Miss out the display of both sides (the display would require awkward finger positioning compared to the original effect).
... or alternatively add an extra phase where the hole slides along the strip, from the centre to the edge?
(I actually quite like the sounds of this extra phase).
Then free to display both sides, then shake....

Any thoughts?...
Message: Posted by: sabitu (Jan 31, 2012 02:22PM)
I own the original Safety Hole Lite and I also bought the new 2.0 version as a backup. I ended up punching 2 holes in one of the ungimmicked cards (both holes are on the right side of the original hole).

Since I still have an extra ungimmicked card with just one hole, I can show this on both sides at the beginning. Then at the end I am able to shake the card and make 2 more holes appear. Showing the card on both sides at the start requires 2 s*****es in order to end with the 3 hole finale. Or you can not show the normal card at the beginning and just do one s****h.
Message: Posted by: Saturn UK (Jan 31, 2012 03:30PM)
It may just be me but I have the original version and just can't see how following the handling in the leaflet will fool anyone, have you made up your own handling's?

It's sitting there begging to be used and I really like the idea, but those wallet switches!
Message: Posted by: sabitu (Jan 31, 2012 05:26PM)
Due to possible exposure, I posted my handling for this effect in the Secret Sessions area.
Message: Posted by: RNK (Feb 2, 2012 10:06AM)
[quote]
On 2012-01-25 20:53, jprace wrote:
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On 2012-01-24 10:34, sabitu wrote:
Sankey has a moving hole effect called Moving Violation, but the method is completely different than Safety Hole. Safety Hole is much cleaner and easier to do in my opinion.
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I think he was referring to "Public Transit" by Sankey.
http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/476
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No, he is actually talking about Sankey's "Moving Violation" trick. Public Transit is a quick transposition of a hole moving from one side to another where Moving Violation is when the hole moves slowly across the card to the other side.

RNK
Message: Posted by: Cameron Francis (Feb 2, 2012 10:17AM)
Yes, but the method is more akin to Public Transit. It really has nothing in common with Moving Violation. Moving Violation is a great trick, too!
Message: Posted by: gdw (Feb 2, 2012 07:01PM)
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On 2012-02-02 11:06, RNK wrote:
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On 2012-01-25 20:53, jprace wrote:
[quote]
On 2012-01-24 10:34, sabitu wrote:
Sankey has a moving hole effect called Moving Violation, but the method is completely different than Safety Hole. Safety Hole is much cleaner and easier to do in my opinion.
[/quote]

I think he was referring to "Public Transit" by Sankey.
http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/476
[/quote]

No, he is actually talking about Sankey's "Moving Violation" trick. Public Transit is a quick transposition of a hole moving from one side to another where Moving Violation is when the hole moves slowly across the card to the other side.

RNK
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No, I was talking about Public Transit.
Message: Posted by: 1KJ (Dec 11, 2012 06:54PM)
I have this, not that crazy about it. I think there are better ways of doing the effect. I would prefer a good moving hole routine. I like Holely. I think similar concept could be applied to a credit card.