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Topic: Deans Set in Barbers
Message: Posted by: Art190 (Nov 26, 2007 09:09PM)
Hello everyone, I want to purchase Schoolcrafts Deans Set in Barber halves. This will be my first time using barber halves. I have heard MANY good things about this coin and wanted some advice and help. I hear they are very soft but I don't want them to be extremely soft to the point where you see nothing. I just want them somewhat in between. What do you guys think? Would this be possible? How soft are your barbers? I have seen a GREAT picture of barbers that just look absoloutely beautiful. They looked just the way I wanted them. Please post your pictures of your sets here as I would be very interested in seeing them. Thank you very much for your time.

Message: Posted by: Joshua Barrett (Nov 26, 2007 09:45PM)
If your going for inbetween id go walkers, barbers are very old... and very very soft commonly
Message: Posted by: Art190 (Nov 26, 2007 09:54PM)
Thank you Joshua for the advice. I was really having a hard time deciding on walkers of barbers. I already have a walkers expanded set but they are uncirculated and wanted to try for something in between. Hmmmm, which one to go for. Man, I just hate choosing. I will eventually get both. Are you saying that when I receive the barbers they will look very used? Or will they look new but old? If that makes sense lol.

Message: Posted by: rutabaga (Nov 26, 2007 10:10PM)

Here's a set I used to own by Schoolcraft:


This set was a Dean's set plus matching flipper and C/S coin. As you can see, they have great definition, while being VERY soft.
Message: Posted by: rannie (Nov 26, 2007 10:12PM)
Message: Posted by: Art190 (Nov 26, 2007 11:00PM)
Rutabaga, that is the set that I was talking about!!! That is the beautiful set that I saw in a post but I could never find it again. Thank you sooo much. How did you order it? I mean what did you tell Jamie when you ordered them that makes them look like that? Did you just tell him you wanted Barbers and that's all? I want a set just like that. That is the most beautiful set of barbers I've seen! Please tell me,I would greatly appreciate it. I just LOVE the way those barbers look. Lol I'm going crazy here because they are just wonderful. I thank you for your help. And also everyone else.

Message: Posted by: rutabaga (Nov 27, 2007 09:29AM)

Jamie makes great gaffs, and knows what good coins are. I specifically asked for coins with the same date and matching patina. That's it. I DID have to be patient while Jamie sourced the coins [+ 2 months] , but as you can see it's a beautiful product.

Personally though I found that the shaved down coins felt just that minute bit too small in my hands. Hard to believe I know! [I'm moving to an unexpanded Morgan set instead]....

If you have the patience, give either Todd or Jamie a call [don't email]. You'll get just what you want! I hope you'll post a pic when you get them!
Message: Posted by: Art190 (Nov 27, 2007 05:15PM)
Thank you very much for your help Rutabaga. I can't wait to order these and I will be sure to put up photos of the set. Is there anyone else that has picture of their barbers to put up? I would like to see others as well. Again, thank you very much for your help!

Message: Posted by: Kjellstrom (Nov 28, 2007 01:51AM)
I owe a set of fantastic Dean Set in Barbers from Schoolcraft and they are the best coin gaffs I have. Its sometimes difficult to find the coin with the shell. Its almost invisible. This set is a true lifetime investment.
If you compare this set with a "normal" set, this is a great leap forward to perfection in coin gaff making. If you perform a lot of coin magic this is the way to go...sure!
If I could turn back time I would bought this set when I was a young junior, that should changed my magic career a lot, sure.
Message: Posted by: Kjellstrom (Nov 28, 2007 02:11AM)
Message: Posted by: Art190 (Nov 28, 2007 09:09AM)
Kjellstrom, thanks for sharing! Man, that is another wonderful set. I can't even notice that the [ is on the coin. Did you just buy this set? I hear that Barbers are smaller than Kennedy's. I've read some posts and they say that they are thinner, but are they smaller in diameter?

Message: Posted by: Art190 (Nov 28, 2007 09:22AM)
Sorry let me be more clear. Are NORMAL Barbers smaller than normal Kennedy's in diameter? I would like to know because if the barbers are smaller then that would mean that since this is a Dean's Set that they would have to shave down the coin even more, making it smaller.
Message: Posted by: Kjellstrom (Nov 28, 2007 09:25AM)
Yes I bought this set directly from Schoolcraft. Very speedy to shipping to europe.
Very easy to palm, Barber Half Dollars -"In god we trust".
Message: Posted by: rutabaga (Nov 28, 2007 11:28AM)
The original diameter of half dollars are very close:

Barber: 30.6mm

Walking Liberty: 30mm

Franklin: 30mm

Kennedy: 31mm

You'll find a barber is considerably thinner than other half dollar coins [good for some things ;) ]
Message: Posted by: MickeyPainless (Nov 28, 2007 01:47PM)
I have a nice bunch of Barbers but no gaffs as I do prefer the Liberty in looks. The Barbers are thinner which can aid in some coin box type tricks!
Message: Posted by: Art190 (Nov 28, 2007 04:27PM)
Thank you rutabaga, the diameters are almost the same, which I think is a good thing. Mickey, so the are you saying the Barbers are better to use and the Walking Liberty's are better for their looks? I usually only use Deans Set of Morgan dollars or Kennedy halves. But now I think its time for me to try different types of coins because it gets boring using the same coins. I think WL look very nice, but so do Barbers. I have not bought anything from Lassen because I am pleased with what Jamie offers. But out of curiosity, if you guys had a choice of going for Lassen's Expanded Shell Set or the Dean's set, which would you go for and why? I did see the thread comparing Jamies expanded shell set, Dean's set, and Lassens expanded shell set but they were mostly just comparing Jamies expanded and Todds expanded shells. I am wondering about Deans set and Lassens expanded. Thank you everyone for the help!

Message: Posted by: Starromeo (Nov 30, 2007 06:06AM)
I got deans set walking liberty, and it is great!
Message: Posted by: Art190 (Nov 30, 2007 11:08AM)
I have walking liberties but they are uncirculated. They are very beautiful but now I think I'm going to give barbers a try.
Message: Posted by: TWOCAN (Jan 2, 2008 07:14PM)
I am also in the process of getting the barber deans set and cant waite for them to get here. Will post pic then. Cheers PT
Message: Posted by: Art190 (Jan 3, 2008 12:32PM)
Hey everyone, I received my barber's a while ago from another magician and they are wonderful! I really really like them. Twocan, you will not regret it! Good luck.

Message: Posted by: rutabaga (Jan 3, 2008 12:43PM)
Art, just out of interest, are your Barbers all different dates?
Message: Posted by: Kjellstrom (Jan 3, 2008 12:51PM)
Yesterday I performed the amazing and magical Shadow Coins by Michael Ammar with my Barber Halves, it was a like a dream effect when you use these coins. At the end of the routine I flipped the coins over before I picked them up, looks very convincing these Dean Sets ...
Message: Posted by: magicblademan (Jan 3, 2008 01:25PM)
Hi guys just like to add,i received my deans set in walkin libs and a grav flip to match,they are beautiful ..I was gonna get the barbers at one stage but went for the libs instead...Jamie is super fast,his new assistant Chris does not mess about he sorted my coins out and I received them today..the grav flip and the s**** are undetectable in the deans set..Took me a bit of searching to find the right size coins that fit me best (halfs or dollars) halfs it was and a lot of questions to you guys here on the Café.

Well I am really pleased with the craftsmanship and the speedy service from Jamie and Chris ..cheers fellas.

Message: Posted by: professorwhut (Jan 3, 2008 03:12PM)
I bought a set of Dean's Barbers last year from Jamie. Not all the same dates.
Message: Posted by: TWOCAN (Jan 3, 2008 03:38PM)
Thanks guys. I feel a lot better hearing positive things about the set before hand.
Message: Posted by: Art190 (Jan 16, 2008 04:30PM)
Rutabaga, yes they are different dates. I really wanted them to be the same but for the price it was very good. I paid $125 for them so I just had to take 'em.

Message: Posted by: sleightofhander (Jan 16, 2008 08:23PM)
On 2008-01-16 17:30, Art190 wrote:
Rutabaga, yes they are different dates. I really wanted them to be the same but for the price it was very good. I paid $125 for them so I just had to take 'em.

[/quote] It will be fine to have coins with different dates. I actually had someone say that my coins were not real. I asked him why he thought that and he said because the coins all had the same dates.
Message: Posted by: jmcgrath (Jan 17, 2008 06:48AM)
I have a few sets from Jamie and they are all different dates, but if I was doing it again I would ensure that the gaffs all had the same date on them and that no other coins had that date. It makes it much easier to spot them in your hand if you loose track of where the gaff is.