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Topic: Www.artisticstreetmagic.com
Message: Posted by: Review King (Dec 4, 2007 12:37AM)
They are still Café advertisers though.

Anyone oder from them?
Message: Posted by: Chessmann (Dec 6, 2007 12:46PM)
I was particularly interested in more information on the effect "Polaroid":

"You walk up to anybody (someone you just met) in the world. They select a card. You use that card to "take a picture" of them. You wave the picture like you would a polaroid. The card explodes (not really) but there is fire and smoke. Their face is now branded into the card. There is no mistake, it is them."

"Did I mention that your in short sleeves, and nothing but the card is in your hand?"
Message: Posted by: Review King (Dec 6, 2007 07:35PM)
The intro video demo was a bit odd. He says this is to answer his crtics that say his magic isn't real and that it in fact is real. Hmmmm.
Message: Posted by: EddyRay (Dec 6, 2007 07:45PM)
He is a member of the Café, forget his username off hand.
Message: Posted by: Review King (Dec 6, 2007 08:50PM)
Cory Chapin is his name.

Anyone order any of his tricks?
Message: Posted by: vinsmagic (Dec 8, 2007 11:49AM)
I think his site is still down,
I like his fussion card effect though
Message: Posted by: bennorthenor (Dec 8, 2007 05:19PM)
I want to buy some of his tricks. They seem amazing!! So, anybody bought any?
Message: Posted by: Review King (Dec 10, 2007 08:28PM)
The site is up. The effects look interesting.
Message: Posted by: freddypunns (Dec 19, 2007 10:24AM)
Is everyone too busy wondering whether or not they are real to actually buy them?

- Freddy
Message: Posted by: Nefesch (Dec 20, 2007 08:42AM)
I have tried to buy a few of this effects, in which I am curious, and wondering.

However the site always says:
Shopping Cart Temporarily Down

It is actually IMPOSIBLE to buy them.

Every time I say to my self: "lets give it a try". I just receive that message, and makes me keep away from them.

So the more I try it, and the more I think it, the more disapointed I get .
Message: Posted by: Review King (Dec 20, 2007 08:57PM)
I wonder why they pay for a banner in the Café?
Message: Posted by: Jerrine (Dec 21, 2007 12:18AM)
That makes it a really really good gag.
Message: Posted by: Silvio Solaris (Dec 21, 2007 03:27AM)
Cory told me that his effects are being evaluated by a famous TV magician who considers performing them. Also Tim Trono is looking at them. That's why he is not selling any effects yet. I believe it is fair to post this so you guys know what's going on.
Message: Posted by: manoj (Dec 27, 2007 01:49AM)
Hello everybody!

I am making this post without Cory's knowledge (but am sure he won't get mad on this) because this brand (artistic street magic) is close to be called a SCAM!

I have seen almost all his effects and they are CRAZY!

Cory is pretty close to releasing all his effects (well not all) in full throttle with a new site and videos.

I am pretty sure that once these effects are released the forum is going to be stormed by loads of negatives.

WHY!

Because they are not your average "easy" effects. These effects are for people who can pull of hard stuff to make effects look like magic. Infact, a warning is going to be put up on site that's says - "If you cannot assemble a model without getting frustrated, or you have little or no patience... DO NOT BUY!"

Cory doesn't believe in mis-directing the camera or his potential clients in his teasers. So you can expect couple of cuts wherein he says that he has to do something to mis-direct his spectator but after that is done this is how the effect continues.

He is a member of Café and you can reach him if you have any queries.

All I can say is - be patient for couple of weeks and you will FIND a new house of MAGIC!

Its called "Artistic Street Magic" & its coming.
Message: Posted by: Bill Nuvo (Dec 27, 2007 08:16AM)
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On 2007-12-27 02:49, manoj wrote:


Cory doesn't believe in mis-directing the camera or his potential clients in his teasers. So you can expect couple of cuts wherein he says that he has to do something to mis-direct his spectator but after that is done this is how the effect continues.


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I'll bite first on the negative...

This is the part I don't understand. How is that supposed to make me want to buy it? I want to see what my spectator sees. I want to know if the moves are awkward. Why should I just take his word at it that they are not?

All the effects have been done before. What he is presenting are different methods (possibly) that haven't been used before. Not really a bad thing.

The videos teasers were for the most part uninteresting. To be blunt, I didn't see any that made me want to continue watching...no excitement. It was like watching some of those youtube videos of kids doing poor presentations of card and coin magic. Where's the audience reactions? (ok I know in other videos these are overdone...but I'd still like to see that these work in real world situations...especially for the price of each DVD).

The videos themselves were blurring to me. Anyone else? I hope this is not the same quality you get on the DVDs.

I've said it before...what is the deal with one trick dvds? I know you can swindle a lot more money out of people that way. I just don't understand why I should buy a dvd just for one trick. Why can't he put all the effects into one DVD? This is why I like books.

From what I did see on the videos, the handling of the effects were not smooth (Clearful took way to long. There are more visual, without cover, effects available on the market).

Don't quite understand Drip2 personally. I can't see anybody doing this in any real world situation. What person in their right mind is gonna let some stranger go up to their vehicle and get part of the way in (door open...) just to show something "cool". Also, how the heck does one put this in their act...oh yeah this is street magic. No money...just creepy ego stroking.
Message: Posted by: Cory Chapin (Dec 30, 2007 10:37PM)
Greetings,
There are two kinds of people.... believers and skeptics. The skeptics will have to wait until some believers make a purchase and post a review. Then the skeptics can read the review right here and make a choose. Then the skeptics will be turned into believers. The agreement in meant to thwart off lazy magicians. No one is doing these effects like me. I give you a completely clean effect from start to finish. If I don't show you something, it's because its the secret that your paying for. If you don't believe, just wait for a review. Ok, now I want to say this....If you can't juggle/and or build a model, or are just plain lazy, then please don't waste your/my time or your money. I only create magic that is absolutely impossible from the start of the effect to the end of the effect. There is a lot that is going on in each effect. Look at Strung, a borrowed ring vanishes out of thin air and appears on your shoelace(you are in shorts and a t-shirt.)The spectator can look at you shoe from 1 inch away! I'm not merlin, so there is obviously a lot going on. Take a look at Drip. You have nothing in your hands except a coin, you show both sides of your hands very fairly. You do the secret move right in front of the spectator and they will have absolutely NO IDEA what you just did. It's kind of like popping your knuckles. They see you "pop your knuckles" but what you really did, was get something that is used for the trick. The coin goes on the glass, and the magic happens. Immediately they see the coin underneath the glass. They also see that your hand on top of the glass is empty. This is exactly how this illusion should look, totally impossible. The DVD's show the entire process from start to finish. I take you through each step of the build, showing you extreme close-ups. My magic isn't for everyone. Only certain people that have the dexterity that it takes to assemble a model without getting they "modeling glue" everywhere, will be able to do the tricks labeled "hard". You might be able to get a friend to help you. You will also have to practice a lot to make the trick look natural. The agreement started out as a joke, I have seen people give harsh reviews, only to be followed up by someone saying they "love the trick". I give 190% in every effect I create. Just because some lacks what is necessary to make my tricks a reality doesn't mean they should be allowed to post a negative review in any forum. I'm going to take the agreement down, but the warning will stay put. So if your lazy or you only like simple, easy-to-do magic, then DO NOT BUY anything on my site that is labeled "hard". There will be no instant gratification received, after your purchase these(hard)effects. Only after careful assembly and lots of practice will you receive the gratification from these effects. I'm sorry that I can't figure out an easier way to do these impossible things. The only thing negative that can be said, is that some of my stuff is hard to assemble/perform. So I warn you ahead of time, you will encounter a challenge, you will get frustrated, you will throw more than one in the trash. But if you have the tenacity that it takes, you too will be performing magic that is unexplainable. As far as any question that has or has not been answered, I'm answering now. You see the videos... there might be some angle issues, there might be complicated assembly. The camera is hard to trick, If I have tricked any of you, then you too will be able to trick people. You might have to ask them to stand in a certain spot. My tricks can all appear to be impromptu, the more impossible the effect, thee more that's going on. Look at Submerged, they can look at the bottle in their hands, they can put the cap on. You don't even need the cap. After you smack the coin in, both of your hands are EMPTY(except the bottle). They see the coin flop through the bottle with the precision of an acrobat doing a somersault. Not like others that you slam through and it seen WILDLY appearing inside. They just saw a completely empty bottle, now there is a coin inside, and there is no coin in your hand. This effect is DEFINTLY NOT impromptu, but you perform it like it is. Look, MAGICAL friends, I am a person just like all of you, and I love magic as much as all of you. I just want the same consideration that you would like if you were the new guy. Give me a little credit for letting you all know the truth about the difficulty factor with my stuff. Most of my stuff is GIMMICKED to the MAX!!!!, But, LOOK at the end results, perty sweet right? I'm adding the shopping cart and digital delivery service this week. I should be open for business real soon(ten days or so). If you look at the effects you will see how they all look. you can see with your own eyes what's going on. Did you read the post? The agreement is a joke, the warning is for real. I just want people to know that some of the gimmicks take hours to make. If you don't have steady hands, you won't be able to construct most of them(Hard). I was trying to eliminate any negative review because someone saw something that looked cool, and when the received it is was quite complicated. They tried to assemble the gimmick and gave up. Most of my stuff is so precision, that there is little or no room for error. If some one didn't pay attention to exactly what I was saying during the build, and there gimmick was a fraction of a hair off,the trick won't work. They might post a review that my effect was junk when in fact they did not assemble properly. Imagine if you were selling the disappearing silk trick, but you had to make the silk, and the tt, from common household items. If someone did not pay attention to the instructions and their silk was to big, it would stick out of the tt and be seen. This would be their fault not the creator/instructor. If this person made a bad review because they could never trick any one,that wouldn't be fair to the creator. That is all I meant by the agreement. Here is a little teaser for anyone that likes money effects... The spectator will see the bill change(like its bleeding) into a different bill. This is done with absolutely no cover. You can hand the bill out and your hand are completely empty. Sound impossible? Nothings impossible! Look, people, you can say what ever you want, I can take it. I'm like a RINO, I was an only child, my mother raised me alone, until she was killed violently in a wreck when I was 12. My best friend died in my arms after crashing at over 100 mph. There is nothing you guys can say or do to stop me from making my dreams come true. I am an inventor, I love performing too, but I don't have the time. I create so much my wife hates magic now. If you don't like the performances, buy the trick, record yourself, and I will put you on the site. I know that you can't please everyone all the time, so... Let the bashings begin.
Thank again, Cory Chapin

P.S. To the nice gentleman who said that ClearFull took to long, How fast can you do it?(I got it down to just under 3 seconds)
Message: Posted by: Bill Nuvo (Dec 30, 2007 11:16PM)
I can do a bill switch of my own design in .5 seconds with no cover but that is not the point. I'm just saying it (the video) doesn't sell the effect in relation to the text.

Quick point Cory...make paragraphs for each point so it is easier to read.

I won't rehash everything here that we are discussing in PM but I will say this again...skeptics don't become believers, they become knowledgeable.

If you are so worried about negative reviews and people not being able to make a precision gimmick...make it yourself and sell the gimmick.
Message: Posted by: Cory Chapin (Dec 31, 2007 01:39AM)
Plungerman, and friends,

Each gimmick is different for each person, no two gimmicks are the same.

Sorry about the type job, I don't usually type that much. Your right, it is a little hard on the eyes to read.

I'll buy your bill switch for $100.00 P.M. me, I love money tricks.
Message: Posted by: Bill Nuvo (Dec 31, 2007 02:40AM)
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Message: Posted by: Rupert Bair (Jan 1, 2008 10:00AM)
Corey you can buy my light switch for $100 if you like?
Message: Posted by: coupcoupdaddy (Jan 1, 2008 10:12AM)
We have a solar toddler toggle switch available in several months!
Message: Posted by: Rupert Bair (Jan 1, 2008 10:22AM)
I have a his and hers global warming keys (on and off only not temperature controllable) available for valentines day.
Message: Posted by: Review King (Jan 3, 2008 07:42PM)
I have a bill switch I created that uses no bills.

I'm releasing this to only a select few. It's $2000 ( I know, steep for non-workers ). And you must sign a waiver ( can't be re-sold or performed on TV ).

I will not put a demo up and will not describe it. You either believe or you don't. Those don't beleive aren't true performers.
Message: Posted by: Silvio Solaris (Jan 3, 2008 11:27PM)
Why don't you guys wait and see what Artistic Street Magic is all about?

Where did you see an effect like Transformed where you put a spectators face you just met on the dollar bill you just borrowed from him... Where did you see an effect like Strung where the spectators ring ends up on your shoelace, without going into the pocket and fumbling around, performable in shorts if you like...

Cory is backed by quite a few known names of our trade who also helped him to design his website.
Message: Posted by: Review King (Jan 3, 2008 11:32PM)
I was just teasing. I'm sure Cory is an awesome performer and inventor. His effects sound wonderful and I want to wish him great success with his new website!
Message: Posted by: Silvio Solaris (Jan 4, 2008 01:26AM)
That was not adressed to you Christopher. I know where you are coming from bro.

I mean all the others who have no clue and dare to bash without finding out first what the real deal is...

Best,

Silvio
Message: Posted by: VisualRiddles (Feb 4, 2008 09:53PM)
Any new news on this site yet?
Message: Posted by: Cory Chapin (Feb 5, 2008 07:30AM)
Hey Guys!
I picked up a Sweet camera and some killer software. I want this to blow your minds completely. I have also added 5 more effects that I will put up on opening day. I have about 9 more days of re-filming, and they are off to the print shop. The artwork is "off the chain". Get Ready!!!!!!!
Cory Chapin
Message: Posted by: Review King (Oct 29, 2008 10:10PM)
Tim Trono of Murphy's has some comments about Cory's effects:

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On 2008-10-29 01:24, Tim Trono wrote:
Hi. I want to set the record straight on a few things as I think some people are making huge assumptions that are not accurate.

In my job as purchaser for the world's largest wholesale distributor I am constantly, all day long, working with various producers, artists, and constantly looking for new great ideas, effects, etc. When I read the descriptions to some of Cory's items a while back I was intrigued and immediately contacted Cory. I was also working with David Blaine and his team on gathering new ideas and material for his show. I let Cory know this as the effects he was announcing sounded great.

In previewing the effects I had some reservations as noted in my e-mail to Chris which he shared above with my permission. Thus the items never made it to David as I did not feel they would fit due to method, practicality, etc.

Cory writes "I showed Tim Trono "Transformation", that was the bonus effect for Transformed. He took this DVD to David Blaine way over a year ago.".

Cory is correct that he provided a DVD of his bill change effect . It never made it to David as we had the concerns as noted and had to ensure we only presented ideas we felt would work. Quite frankly/honestly I did not watch all through the bill change DVD as I felt there were better bill switches available after watching Cory's handling of the bill change. I felt it was to complicated in handling. Thus I honestly don't know if, in fact, the item Cory mentions (changing portrait) was on the DVD as I never got that far (Cory sent several DVDs and I had a fairly short period to review and evaluate them). None of the DVDs actually made it to David (though I did have them with me during one of my trips to NYC in the event they were brought up) as we felt the methods were overly complicated and most likely theoretical ideas and not tried and tested.

The portrait effect you saw on David's show was created by Dan Garcia, Dan White, and Doug McKenzie. I believe (not 100% sure) that it was initially/mainly Dan Garcia's idea and the team worked on it from there. These guys never saw (nor did I as mentioned above) Cory's idea and had no knowledge of it. I certainly would have mentioned it to them when we went over material if I had seen anyone else do this effect before and I had not. I am not doubting that Cory independently created this effect from the Blaine crew or that it was put as a bonus on one of his DVDs (thought I did not see it) but I can assure you they knew nothing of Cory's effect (nor did I) and I don't know what Cory's handling or effect is. So the assumption that this was passed onto the Blaine crew is simply not accurate.

I don't want to get in the mix on this thread as I try to only post items I feel positive about... that is where I prefer to spend my energy. In all fairness to Cory, the ideas (several DVDs sent by Cory as mentioned) I looked at were over a year ago so I don't know if any of them have changed, etc. The ones I looked at sounded great from the descriptions but were fairly complicated in technique and I am not convinced they would work in real performing situations. I passed on them for Murphy's. My decision extended beyond just the rather complicated set up/make up involved though that was certainly a large factor.

kissdadookie, brings up one of the concerns I mentioned to Cory in that I felt many of the ideas that Cory presented to me were riding on the coat tails of other popular releases (ex. Interlace). There is absolutely nothing wrong with that IF the effect is improved and/or the method is significantly improved. In many of the cases I think that Cory presented an alternative method but not necessarily a BETTER method. In some cases such as the ring on shoelace I personally felt it was a step back. I applaud Cory for trying and working with these plots... I just did not feel they were ready for release. I was also concerned that 1) there was simply no crediting from what I saw or 2) that the effects were never shown performed... they went immediately into explanations.

Tony, thanks for your understanding and I think you hit the nail on the head when you wrote "you can come up with something and fall in love w/ the idea and be blinded by your eagerness to release something that is not fully developed.". I see this almost every day in my job and I TRY to encourage people to reconsider when an item is not ready - if you release a half baked idea it will only hurt your brand/name. If you really work through your material, test it out for real people, get honest feedback from knowledgeable fellow magicians, and keep honing it you will get winner after winner (ex. Richard Sanders, etc.).

I am not hear to bash Cory but just to set the record straight. I only will endorse or recommend items I am truly personally passionate about and I am not comfortable with my name being used in conjunction with these products. I did in fact ask to look at them and I did pass on my concerns privately after that.

Tim Trono
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