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Topic: "Luna" (outlaw effects)
Message: Posted by: Roth (Jan 16, 2008 05:33PM)
An Eddie Garland film


You're holding the patient registry for Colney Hatch. The year is 1936.
It is the key.
Unlock the door and take your audience on a journey into the heart of darkness.
Message: Posted by: Jerome Finley (Jan 16, 2008 05:36PM)
Here I go!
Message: Posted by: Chad C. (Jan 16, 2008 05:54PM)
And so it begins...
Message: Posted by: MDantes (Jan 16, 2008 06:03PM)
Indeed...
Message: Posted by: Esjay Dee (Jan 16, 2008 06:05PM)
Feeding time again
Message: Posted by: Rick (Jan 16, 2008 06:17PM)
Nice...........just when you thought witches was cool..he,he,........
Message: Posted by: Waters (Jan 16, 2008 06:30PM)
Rick, you know how to make an entrance. We'll done! You keep me on the hook.


Sean
Message: Posted by: Floyd Collins (Jan 16, 2008 06:57PM)
OH YES Put me on the list Rick...
Message: Posted by: Silvertongue (Jan 16, 2008 07:02PM)
MENTAL!!!!!!!!!
Message: Posted by: coupcoupdaddy (Jan 16, 2008 07:31PM)
HAUNTING. Another stunning piece, Eddie! Solara Velossa thought the first person she saw in the film was Einstein!
Message: Posted by: The CiscoKid (Jan 16, 2008 07:35PM)
***,

I still am working on my recently received Witches Almanac

I'm in!

Omar
Message: Posted by: ALEXANDRE (Jan 16, 2008 07:46PM)
When will we get more details on this?
Message: Posted by: mindsynced (Jan 16, 2008 07:56PM)
Wow. Gave me the chills.
Message: Posted by: Marc Spelmann (Jan 16, 2008 08:04PM)
Very spooky trailer..

The young girls voice is disturbing.. Nice work Roth, I feel you may have another career in the offering..

Good thoughts

Spelmann
Message: Posted by: Mark Rough (Jan 16, 2008 08:06PM)
@#$!##%$!!!!! My wife is not going to be happy.
Message: Posted by: Rick (Jan 16, 2008 08:16PM)
Mark..what she doesn't know wont hurt her right?......so..don't tell mine either..lol...
Message: Posted by: Jim-Callahan (Jan 16, 2008 08:19PM)
Eddie,

Even though most of these cats missed it I loved your work on this.
(An Eddie Garland film)

Most only saw a new trick!
Totaly missing the art and skill of the film.
(I guess that is why they are mentalists.)

Well done.

I watched it four times.

Thanks,

Jim
Message: Posted by: Mark Rough (Jan 16, 2008 08:37PM)
How dare you. Them's fightin' words! I am NOT a mentalist. I'm a magician. Mentalists put the mental in fundamentalism!
Message: Posted by: Bedford (Jan 16, 2008 09:14PM)
By "coming this winter" do you mean coming between now and March, or coming during the 2008 holiday season?
Message: Posted by: Chad C. (Jan 16, 2008 09:35PM)
Soon...very soon...
Message: Posted by: Roth (Jan 16, 2008 09:45PM)
Luna ships the first week in February. There will be an excellent pre-order price on my site tonight or tomorrow.

Luna is the second in my 1930's series and is aged like the Witch book.

The method is deviously simple yet the book is 100% examinable (like the Witch book)

In the first 15 seconds of performing, you will make your first revelation and stun the spectator.

This a dark emotion filled ride into the life and minds of some unfortunate people. You or I could have found a similar fate back then.

Much like the witch trials of earlier times, innocent people were accused of things that were not true.

Some should have been at Hatch, some shouldn't have...

Rick
Message: Posted by: Dr Spektor (Jan 16, 2008 09:55PM)
I think we'll all need padded cells after experiencing the power of this...

Eddie is our Film Master! FIlm Noir - blacker than black...
Message: Posted by: Gerry Hennessey (Jan 16, 2008 10:17PM)
Funny how Eddie timed the release of this very dark movie just before the Oscars? Hmmmm!

Hennessey
Message: Posted by: Pi314 (Jan 16, 2008 10:22PM)
Wow, very nice work on the audio and video.
I wish it were a movie, but I have no doubt that the tangible format is going to be a lot better.
Message: Posted by: deputy (Jan 16, 2008 10:55PM)
Based on everything I have bought from the outlaw this will be an automatic buy. 2008 looks like a great year with Rick . Can't wait for it. Ryan
Message: Posted by: Harlequin (Jan 16, 2008 11:52PM)
Rick is a cruel, cruel man, for constantly tempting us with such interesting and effective products! ;)
Message: Posted by: DT3 (Jan 16, 2008 11:59PM)
Just when I thought I was out...you pull me back in!
Message: Posted by: illusioneer (Jan 17, 2008 12:42AM)
Ohhh - I gotta hear the effect on this one!

That film made me turn the lights on in my bedroom I was so creeped out!. And I LOVE the Paranormal!

(Did I mention I was 22 years old? No? Good...)
Message: Posted by: Subgenial (Jan 17, 2008 12:55AM)
Outlaw and Dr Todd - count me in!
Yes, another little masterpiece from Eddie - cannot wait for a full film from this guy. Liked the AC cameo!
Message: Posted by: Roth (Jan 17, 2008 02:59AM)
You won't see his credit until the book comes out, but my friend and partner on the Witches' Almanac Dr. Bill Cushman was a contributor to the Luna concept.

The Luna page should be working tomorrow. I will be adding to the page over the next couple of days.

Thanks!

Rick
Message: Posted by: MindSeeker (Jan 17, 2008 03:55AM)
Sounds very interesting, looking forward to it :)
Message: Posted by: MikeCS (Jan 17, 2008 04:30AM)
Alas. I think I have caught some kind of virus. My copy of the Witches Almanac hasn't even arrived yet and now this!

I am poor, please have mercy! If this kind of pace keeps up, I will have a stroke!

...This just shouldn't be happening....my poor wife and family....all may be lost

--Mike
Message: Posted by: fishwasher (Jan 17, 2008 10:59AM)
Another great video Eddie......


Man, more money to spend :)
Message: Posted by: DrTodd (Jan 17, 2008 01:37PM)
Dark, dank, muffled cries, the tap, tap, tap at the window...injustice, medications, experiments, and the participant's imagination...
Message: Posted by: Roth (Jan 17, 2008 03:42PM)
The Luna page is up. I will be adding more details shortly.

Thanks guys!
Message: Posted by: AltonThrash (Jan 17, 2008 05:27PM)
[quote]
On 2008-01-16 21:19, Jim-Callahan wrote:
Eddie,

Even though most of these cats missed it I loved your work on this.
(An Eddie Garland film)

Most only saw a new trick!
Totaly missing the art and skill of the film.
(I guess that is why they are mentalists.)

Well done.

I watched it four times.

Thanks,

Jim
[/quote]

I just watched the teaser for Luna. Most everyone that is familiar with Outlaw should already be familiar with Eddie Garland's great work. Just another example and one I think is his best to date. Just my opinion of course. Great job Eddie!!!!
Now c'mon Roth put up some Luna pics. Well back to my Witches Almanac till then.

Alton
Message: Posted by: AlexSem (Jan 17, 2008 08:33PM)
Some pics, some more info :) Looks good though
Message: Posted by: Silvertongue (Jan 17, 2008 09:34PM)
When does pre order end please?

And I forgot to give props to Mr Garland's Video. Perfect!!!

I am so happy about this new release... Perfect!!!
Message: Posted by: Roth (Jan 17, 2008 10:14PM)
[quote]
On 2008-01-17 22:34, Silvertongue wrote:
When does pre order end please?

And I forgot to give props to Mr Garland's Video. Perfect!!!

I am so happy about this new release... Perfect!!!
[/quote]
Pre-order is good until Feb.1st
Message: Posted by: MDantes (Jan 17, 2008 10:35PM)
Great videos.
Great Site.
Great products.
Great People.
Great Deals.
Great Customer Service.

I Put My order in...

Outlaw... You can't Beat it.

I like that.

You can't out draw, an Outlaw.

That too...

Thanks Outlaw...

You are appreciated...

You have my vote for best Online shop.
Message: Posted by: Eddie Garland (Jan 18, 2008 09:45AM)
Deep thanks for all the great video comments Guys!
Circle me with Salt! Thanks Jim.
Yes!!! Subgenial, AC indeed visited the place :)

Thousands were "admitted" and died at the Hatch and now apparently you and a spectator can finally help get them a "release"... so to speak. :)

I'm certainly looking forward to meeting this new devious and DARK cast of OutLaw characters.
Message: Posted by: Esjay Dee (Jan 18, 2008 10:03AM)
I'll add my voice to the chior, Greaty work Eddie. I've watched 4 of your films now. Incredibly atmospheric..they send a shiver up my quiver.

steve.
Message: Posted by: Mark Rough (Jan 18, 2008 10:11AM)
[quote]
On 2008-01-17 23:14, Roth wrote:
[quote]
On 2008-01-17 22:34, Silvertongue wrote:
When does pre order end please?

And I forgot to give props to Mr Garland's Video. Perfect!!!

I am so happy about this new release... Perfect!!!
[/quote]

Rick,

Thanks for keeping this open until payday. Seriously.

Mark
Pre-order is good until Feb.1st
[/quote]
Message: Posted by: bevbevvybev (Jan 18, 2008 10:13AM)
You can now see the new outlaw movie in it's full glory on the outlaw effects website
Message: Posted by: Subgenial (Jan 18, 2008 05:54PM)
OK - this is REALLY weird - I always have strange feelings looking at Mr. Garland's videos - but this one really spooked me and gave me a feeling of Déjà Vu. I knew that place on the video. I then realised that I had stayed there - a quick look on Wikipedia jolted my memory - the old lunatic asylum had been turned into luxury flats with conference facilities. I was there on business in 2003.
Also on the Wicki - I saw the name Kosminski - this was my mothers maiden name!

Just coincidence? - put me at the top of the queue Outlaw! This is just too weird.
I swear I will post a legnthy (but honest) review when this one get through my letterbox!
Message: Posted by: Balaram (Jan 18, 2008 08:54PM)
Colney Hatch had 6 MILES of corridors, including the longest one in all GB.
A Cemetery on one side, and a "sewage facility" on the other. A real life nightmare, a true horror story from medical history.
Message: Posted by: princehal (Jan 18, 2008 09:45PM)
When will there be pictures? This sounds great!
Message: Posted by: Pi314 (Jan 18, 2008 10:03PM)
Well, there's a nice Luna banner on the Café.
On their website it says that a photo will be up in a few days.

I've pre-ordered. Now begins the torturous waiting.
Message: Posted by: DrTodd (Jan 19, 2008 02:45AM)
Thousands of permanent residents, assigned there for being poor, held under lock and key, and subject to a prolonged regime...the registry is very flexible and can adapt to many different presentations and routines. Dark? Yup...
Message: Posted by: Xiqual (Jan 19, 2008 03:26AM)
Rick and Eddie have done it again! I am curious where you got those video clips of my blindfold routine Eddie?
Props guys,
James
Message: Posted by: Floyd Collins (Jan 19, 2008 11:56AM)
Iam in got on the pre order list today>>> Cant wait. Already own Reflections, WA and I am sure this one will blow them away.
Message: Posted by: Gerry Hennessey (Jan 20, 2008 12:10AM)
Rick,

You got me too!

Hennessey
Message: Posted by: Subgenial (Jan 20, 2008 03:19AM)
As I mentioned in a previous post - I stayed at Colney Hatch, only it is now called Princess Park Manor. I do not know if they still have a conference facility - but I am looking into it. Can you imagine doing a gig at a conference in this place armed with Luna?!
Message: Posted by: DrTodd (Jan 20, 2008 06:11AM)
[quote]
On 2008-01-20 04:19, Subgenial wrote:
As I mentioned in a previous post - I stayed at Colney Hatch, only it is now called Princess Park Manor. I do not know if they still have a conference facility - but I am looking into it. Can you imagine doing a gig at a conference in this place armed with Luna?!
[/quote]

Yup...footballers wives...and 2,696 ex-patients still buried there, or was their peace disturbed by the new development....hmm.....
Message: Posted by: Eddie Garland (Jan 20, 2008 01:08PM)
Just discovered this...

Sixth and Final Phase now released...

Far scarier than my video. I went from color to black and white and they had to do the opposite of course..Hee Hee!

Note how they dance over the history :)
Chilling. Wonder if they bothered to move the bodies in the graveyard?

The following video below is a perfect opening for a horror film in my opinion. Wish I had thought of it.

Come on...lets all move in!
Face it Carol Anne, there is going to be a gruesome scene in that pool no doubt.

I will certainly use this website in presentations of "Luna".

http://www.princessparkmanor.net/

Princess Park Manor indeed :)
Message: Posted by: Silvertongue (Jan 20, 2008 02:15PM)
Sweet.

Eddie Garland moves in, construction ceases and the residents go insane.

Do it, Don't do it!!! DO IT!!!!!

I cannot wait for this one... BUZZIN!!!!!

I've had thoughts upon a time about making a mad mans journal... What a perfect excuse, and Crowleys insane wife to boot... Possessed by demons. Nice... I'm on it...
Message: Posted by: ALEXANDRE (Jan 20, 2008 02:45PM)
Unsettling.
Message: Posted by: Eddie Garland (Jan 20, 2008 02:59PM)
Their choice of music is even odd and brilliantly unsettling.

If you play my tiny videos soundtrack and their flash presentations soundtrack at the same time BUT watch their visuals...it all works out really great :)
Message: Posted by: ALEXANDRE (Jan 20, 2008 03:11PM)
Truly disquieting.
Message: Posted by: Cornelius Golde (Jan 20, 2008 03:20PM)
Some things cannot be destroyed and will resurface.
Message: Posted by: magicmind (Jan 20, 2008 03:50PM)
[quote]
On 2008-01-16 21:19, Jim-Callahan wrote:
Eddie,

Even though most of these cats missed it I loved your work on this.
(An Eddie Garland film)

Most only saw a new trick!
Totaly missing the art and skill of the film.
(I guess that is why they are mentalists.)

Well done.

I watched it four times.

Thanks,

Jim
[/quote]

Intersted in the trick, but I wanna see the movie, now that I watched the trailer.
WOW!
Message: Posted by: magicmind (Jan 20, 2008 03:52PM)
[quote]
On 2008-01-16 21:19, Jim-Callahan wrote:
Eddie,

Even though most of these cats missed it I loved your work on this.
(An Eddie Garland film)

Most only saw a new trick!
Totaly missing the art and skill of the film.
(I guess that is why they are mentalists.)

Well done.

I watched it four times.

Thanks,

Jim
[/quote]

Intersted in the trick, but I wanna see the movie, now that I watched the trailer.
WOW!
Message: Posted by: DrTodd (Jan 21, 2008 01:55AM)
They also sold off 135 acres of the complex, it now only has 30 acres of park land. What else is built there?....I wonder...
Message: Posted by: sychou (Jan 21, 2008 06:13AM)
Very nice trailer!
Message: Posted by: Cornelius Golde (Jan 21, 2008 06:19PM)
Due to the fact that I have something of a loose affiliation with Outlaw Effects, I have managed to get my hands on an advance copy of this artefact.
I do not normally make the effort to comment on the work of others - but in this case, I will make an exception.
This is extraordinarily clever, and a very fine piece of work.
As with all of Outlaw's projects, it is underpriced by a shocking margin.
A very fine job by Roth and Dr Todd.

I may even buy one myself, now, where did I put my wallet?





....................seriously, nice work Rick and Dr Todd I am proud to be associated.
Message: Posted by: Balaram (Jan 21, 2008 08:26PM)
Looks like they have quite a gym at Princess Park. Wonder if they have any of the old equipment?
Message: Posted by: Mesaboogie (Jan 22, 2008 02:06AM)
What is the significance of the map of Grays Thurrock? Only, I live there (!!!) so it kinda freaked me out !!
Message: Posted by: Eddie Garland (Jan 22, 2008 11:26AM)
The map was for you alone Mesaboogie...now order.
Message: Posted by: Roth (Jan 23, 2008 04:05PM)
Luna photo should be on the site tomorrow.

Thanks!

Did you see Jheff's review of the Witches' Almanac on
Marketplace of the Mind?!!!

Makes all the long hours worth it.
Message: Posted by: james1a (Jan 24, 2008 01:32AM)
Did you know His Honoue Dr. Sir Alexander Cannon used to be in charge of an asylum? That was before he started not curing people who couldn't be cured on the Isle of Man.
james1a
Message: Posted by: Jim-Callahan (Jan 24, 2008 03:23PM)
Were are the Luna Photos?

Jim
Message: Posted by: Doug Higley (Jan 24, 2008 03:44PM)
That was interesting. Was that Frood-ian slipping? 'Were' as in Werewolf in regards to Luna?



Roth makes me come here and say things. I'll go see what Luna is now.

Oh yeah. Good trailer. :)
Message: Posted by: Jim-Callahan (Jan 24, 2008 03:58PM)
Wish that it 'Were' Doug.

Jim
Message: Posted by: Doug Higley (Jan 24, 2008 04:59PM)
I know you meant Ware.
Message: Posted by: Dr Spektor (Jan 24, 2008 05:07PM)
I like werewolves.
Message: Posted by: Eddie Garland (Jan 24, 2008 09:06PM)
I Lycan thropes.
Message: Posted by: Roth (Jan 24, 2008 10:21PM)
Luna will be at the discount price for one more week. A week from this Sunday the sale comes off and the games begin!

Darkness will reign supreme, and those that are meek of heart will be left behind!
Or something like that.

Anyway, it's a killer book test. Ye will have fun.

Wasn't Daniel Day Lewis just awesome in Gangs of New York?
Message: Posted by: Dr Spektor (Jan 24, 2008 10:37PM)
I like dark.

This is gonna be great - I like the 1930s... the age of Jazz and HPL.

PS Roth - I am actually working on the prototype of something very Cthulhoid to send you.... hehehehe
Message: Posted by: MDantes (Jan 24, 2008 11:27PM)
I'm looking forward to it ...

Yes, Begin the games...

Indeed.
Message: Posted by: Jim-Callahan (Jan 25, 2008 08:55AM)
I am looking foward to seeing the new pic with Lewis in it.

Looks like it has a good faith healing scene in it.

Jim
Message: Posted by: DrTodd (Jan 25, 2008 10:40AM)
Having just come back from London this afternoon and talking to folks, the real convincer is that this place existed and in its new incarnation, still exists...anyone remotely interested can google it...you will also all love the transference and empathy side of this effect....it is so much more than a book test.
Message: Posted by: Subgenial (Jan 25, 2008 12:13PM)
Rick has just told me that he will not be sending me either Luna, or the Witches Almanac, NO MATTER WHAT A PAY. This is because I have been 'far too naughty'.
I feel sad and rejected, and very envious of all of you people who will be enjoying Luna. Hey, someone let me know what it is like when you get it!
Dr Todd is a great thinker and I know this will be special.
Message: Posted by: DrTodd (Jan 25, 2008 03:06PM)
[quote]
On 2008-01-25 13:13, Subgenial wrote:
Rick has just told me that he will not be sending me either Luna, or the Witches Almanac, NO MATTER WHAT A PAY. This is because I have been 'far too naughty'.
I feel sad and rejected, and very envious of all of you people who will be enjoying Luna. Hey, someone let me know what it is like when you get it!
Dr Todd is a great thinker and I know this will be special.
[/quote]

You looking for redemption :) Thanks for your support Subgenial!
Message: Posted by: Dr Spektor (Jan 25, 2008 04:08PM)
[quote]
On 2008-01-25 13:13, Subgenial wrote:
Rick has just told me that he will not be sending me either Luna, or the Witches Almanac, NO MATTER WHAT A PAY. This is because I have been 'far too naughty'.
I feel sad and rejected, and very envious of all of you people who will be enjoying Luna. Hey, someone let me know what it is like when you get it!
Dr Todd is a great thinker and I know this will be special.
[/quote]

I bet if you gave your tongue and typing fingers to Roth, he may reconsider... (and then you can have the last laugh as you'll learn how to type with your toes and use another orifice to make auditory communications... win:win scenario... I'm glad I am a good negotiator...)

Ba-ZIIIIIING
Message: Posted by: IAIN (Jan 25, 2008 04:10PM)
I wonder if dr. todd will perform this at the next tabula mentis?
Message: Posted by: Roth (Jan 25, 2008 04:31PM)
[quote]
On 2008-01-25 17:10, abraxus wrote:
I wonder if dr. todd will perform this at the next tabula mentis?
[/quote]
There will be many Luna books in the U.K. in time for Tabula Mentis. :bat:
Message: Posted by: Jim-Callahan (Jan 25, 2008 04:32PM)
[quote]
On 2008-01-24 18:07, Dr Spektor wrote:
I like werewolves.
[/quote]

I like women with few cloths myself.
But if you like them hairy what difference does it make.

Jim
Message: Posted by: deputy (Jan 25, 2008 08:08PM)
I cant wait for this one its going to be good.
Message: Posted by: Dr Spektor (Jan 25, 2008 09:08PM)
[quote]
On 2008-01-25 17:32, Jim-Callahan wrote:
[quote]
On 2008-01-24 18:07, Dr Spektor wrote:
I like werewolves.
[/quote]

I like women with few cloths myself.
But if you like them hairy what difference does it make.

Jim
[/quote]

Hairy women? Depends were the hair is located.

However, howling always is a plus.

The back scatching and biting... depends how deep.

One of the best female supernatural entities - the Succubus.
Message: Posted by: Jim-Callahan (Jan 25, 2008 09:17PM)
Well I could make some sort of snide remark about that last word.

Agree with the the firs three lines and defer on the last.

You hang with that wild chick if ya want.

Once bitten twice shy.

J ack

H.O.a-X
Message: Posted by: MDantes (Jan 25, 2008 10:40PM)
Once bitten twice shy is right

But I do enjoy going deep...
Message: Posted by: Dr Spektor (Jan 25, 2008 10:51PM)
Yep, the LUNA effect is obviously in full force on this thread....
Message: Posted by: Roth (Jan 25, 2008 11:02PM)
All right I think I've had enough of the "Hair" werewolf stuff.

Quick update. I'd hoped to have a photo up this weekend but it's not going to happen until monday.

Pre-sale will end one week from Sunday. Thanks!
Message: Posted by: MDantes (Jan 25, 2008 11:16PM)
Roth is King of the Mountain...
Message: Posted by: Dr Spektor (Jan 25, 2008 11:24PM)
At least we didn't go into fur.

Luna.... ok trivia folks.... why is the moon associated with madness according to mythology (forget all the modern stuff)...

Oh yeah... Rothster, here is something for people on the moon and madness:

http://www.cmaj.ca/cgi/content/full/173/12/1498

Amazing what those Canadian docs will allow to be publihed in a respected National academic journal :)....
Message: Posted by: Eddie Garland (Jan 26, 2008 12:18AM)
Oh dear...
Message: Posted by: DrTodd (Jan 26, 2008 02:29AM)
[quote]
On 2008-01-25 17:31, Roth wrote:
[quote]
On 2008-01-25 17:10, abraxus wrote:
I wonder if dr. todd will perform this at the next tabula mentis?
[/quote]
There will be many Luna books in the U.K. in time for Tabula Mentis. :bat:
[/quote]

I guess that is a yes then!
Message: Posted by: DrTodd (Jan 26, 2008 02:34AM)
[quote]
On 2008-01-26 00:24, Dr Spektor wrote:
At least we didn't go into fur.

Luna.... ok trivia folks.... why is the moon associated with madness according to mythology (forget all the modern stuff)...

Oh yeah... Rothster, here is something for people on the moon and madness:

http://www.cmaj.ca/cgi/content/full/173/12/1498

Amazing what those Canadian docs will allow to be publihed in a respected National academic journal :)....
[/quote]

Nice article....Colney Hatch ran experiments to find a statistical correlation between the cycles of the moon and raised abnormal behaviour among the patients...
Message: Posted by: Dr Mage (Jan 26, 2008 12:37PM)
Night shifts in the ER are always an event during a full-moon.
Message: Posted by: Tony Iacoviello (Jan 26, 2008 12:42PM)
So are night shifts on the Café! ;)
Message: Posted by: Dr Spektor (Jan 26, 2008 08:23PM)
Say, his thread was sliding down to low - BUMP...

Ok, let me put a real comment down so this post isn't deleted...

I am happy listening to what this effect can be that it won't be promoting any stigmatic portrayal of mental illness... I actually was worried that this would be the first product from Outlaw I might have reservations about... because of my day job... but it appears that the way the book works as something can be used to connect to emotions etc... that I can adapt it to be an empathy for the ill type of device...

Which would actually be a wonderful thing.

I just hope no one uses the thing for promoting archaic sterotypes of psychiatry, the mentally ill and so on... I plan to work this thing into something that not only gives a chilling experience but can enlighten the public...
Message: Posted by: Harlequin (Jan 26, 2008 09:11PM)
My dad is a well respected psychiatrist and I look forward to performing this for him. I hardly ever perform any kind of magic for him as he is very analytical and so rather than enjoying the entertainment he tries to pick stuff apart.

That being said, I still plan to play up the archaic stereotype of mental health treatment at that time to create an atmosphere concurrent with what I imagine the book will look like. I believe this can still be done with respect to the fact that psychiatry is very different today than it was even 60-70 years ago. I hope that makes sense.
Message: Posted by: Floyd Collins (Jan 26, 2008 09:48PM)
My mother worked as a nurse in a mental health hospital for many years, when I told her what I ordered she almost hit the floor. She said this “You need to be very careful with this one son”. Then she said, make sure you show me this one first, maybe I can give you some hints for some good patter. Hehe
Message: Posted by: Roth (Jan 26, 2008 10:03PM)
ONE of the presentations has the spectator "feel" what the resident has experienced emotion wise, and then think of their own experience with the same emotions.

You then become an "empath" and not only describe the feelings the spec is experiencing, you start to describe the situation that brought forth those feelings.

With this book test Dr.Todd and I wanted the performer to have the ability to make the spectator a part of the "experience".

What makes the presentation so strong and "emotional", is that many many of these people should not have been at Colney Hatch at all.

In many cases, your revelation will reveal that the person they chose was not mentally ill at all, just a victim of an unfortunate series of events.

Now, there are some darker characters that your spectator will clearly know should be in Hatch, and should never be let out.

RR
Message: Posted by: Dr Spektor (Jan 26, 2008 11:12PM)
I'm sure there are some darker characters that should be in the Hatch that never got in :bat:
Message: Posted by: DrTodd (Jan 27, 2008 02:52AM)
There is larger commentary on the social institutions of Victorian England, as well as hierachies in the medical profession with respect to the position that the nascent subdiscipline of psychiatry occupied, which in mnay ways contributed to doctors working at CH feeling deep resentment toward their colleagues and some of their patients. CH was a residual holding area for people for whom society had no immediate solution...the presentations in the manual capture this, but as Rick says, there are some people in the registry that should be there....
Message: Posted by: Jim-Callahan (Jan 27, 2008 06:58AM)
[quote]
On 2008-01-26 23:03, Roth wrote:
ONE of the presentations has the spectator "feel" what the resident has experienced emotion wise, and then think of their own experience with the same emotions.

You then become an "empath" and not only describe the feelings the spec is experiencing, you start to describe the situation that brought forth those feelings.

With this book test Dr.Todd and I wanted the performer to have the ability to make the spectator a part of the "experience".

What makes the presentation so strong and "emotional", is that many many of these people should not have been at Colney Hatch at all.

In many cases, your revelation will reveal that the person they chose was not mentally ill at all, just a victim of an unfortunate series of events.

Now, there are some darker characters that your spectator will clearly know should be in Hatch, and should never be let out.

RR
[/quote]

"Witness the paranormal abilities and memories of the deceased channeled through a member of the audience."

Jim
Message: Posted by: Doug Higley (Jan 27, 2008 07:08AM)
"In many cases, your revelation will reveal that the person they chose was not mentally ill at all, just a victim of an unfortunate series of events."

Now that's a hook for the impetus to going in in the first place...to discover the innocent...and along the way...

"there are some darker characters that your spectator will clearly know should be in Hatch, and should never be let out."

sweet.
Message: Posted by: DrTodd (Jan 27, 2008 07:28AM)
[quote]
On 2008-01-27 08:08, Doug Higley wrote:
"In many cases, your revelation will reveal that the person they chose was not mentally ill at all, just a victim of an unfortunate series of events."

Now that's a hook for the impetus to going in in the first place...to discover the innocent...and along the way...

"there are some darker characters that your spectator will clearly know should be in Hatch, and should never be let out."

sweet.
[/quote]

Sweet indeed...I like the whole notion of 'unsettledness' about the place....
Message: Posted by: Dr Spektor (Jan 27, 2008 07:45AM)
Yep - the key is context - and I plan to use the book to talk about social injustice as well - although the sad thing is even in the 21st century, people that don't fit well in society are still often tossed either into the criminal justice system or the mental health system... it truly is sad. I work with youth that use substances and/or gamble.... I like to keep 'em out of modern versions of CH... which in the US are either prisons or posh rehabs that like to take as much money as they can... argh.

In any case, it will be interesting to see the final work when it lands here!

Oh - for those who cared - it was HECATE...
Message: Posted by: Jim-Callahan (Jan 27, 2008 11:00AM)
Just the scripting possibilities are great.

Some truly disturbing things to consider.

Jim
Message: Posted by: Roth (Jan 27, 2008 09:39PM)
[quote]
On 2008-01-27 12:00, Jim-Callahan wrote:
Just the scripting possibilities are great.

Some truly disturbing things to consider.

Jim
[/quote]
I know you will do wonderful things with Luna...dark things, but wonderful.
Message: Posted by: chichi711 (Jan 27, 2008 10:00PM)
I am not sure I will get the book (just not sure it will fit). I am sure it is great though. I LOVED the video though.
Message: Posted by: Jim-Callahan (Jan 28, 2008 07:38AM)
Mr.Roth I am moving into a more light type of presentation.

Lots 'O' laughs and treats for the kids.

But I have found that my brand of treats does give the young ones nightmares.

And I have heard of parents who vuiw the end result of their lust as nightmares and desire quite places to place them.

J ack

H.O.A-X
Message: Posted by: bobbyk (Jan 28, 2008 06:35PM)
Okay Rick, Here comes the wallet.... This really isn't fair :)

Seriously, I can't wait to get my greedy little hands on this one!

Best,

Bk
Message: Posted by: Roth (Jan 29, 2008 07:07PM)
There is now a photo of a rather innocent looking Patient Registry. The year was 1936. It is in fact a key, that unlocks the door to Colney Hatch.

Now you can take your audience inside the heart of darkness, and bring them back, unlike the residents of Hatch, who never got out.


Photo up!

Thanks for looking guys!

Rick
Message: Posted by: Floyd Collins (Jan 29, 2008 07:24PM)
Love it cant wait.....
Message: Posted by: MDantes (Jan 29, 2008 10:38PM)
Me neither...
Message: Posted by: Esjay Dee (Jan 30, 2008 02:48AM)
Looking good..........I knew that it would.
Message: Posted by: fishwasher (Jan 30, 2008 10:21AM)
That looks great.....
Message: Posted by: Jim-Callahan (Feb 1, 2008 08:19AM)
Really nice stuff offered by Outlaw.

Not just good looking but functional.

Just the act of show and tell with these items is enough to make a memorable presentation.

Jim
Message: Posted by: deputy (Feb 1, 2008 06:16PM)
The Pictures look great. Outlaw has offered some of the best book tests out there. Reflections rocks and is always with me at walk around events and Homicide and Sinister are a favorite to use in a darker kind of show. This seems like a winner to. Ryan
Message: Posted by: Roth (Feb 2, 2008 06:24PM)
Luna Pre-sale ends one week from today! We start shipping around the 10th. Lots of witch books going out monday. If you haven't received yours I guarantee you get it this week!

We are caught up finally!
Message: Posted by: bkowkabany (Feb 3, 2008 05:01PM)
You're killing me Rick. I'm torn between the Witch Almanac and this. Especially since the new method sounds so pure.

Are they the same method, different premise? Or is there something else new in Luna?
Message: Posted by: DrTodd (Feb 4, 2008 01:01AM)
Luna has new features, more streamlined workings (IMHO), and greater flexibility for many different presentations, such as clinical, social justice, and bizarre...and all the other things the users of Outlaw products so creatively come up with!
Message: Posted by: Bambaladam (Feb 4, 2008 03:09AM)
Quick question: can this book be used to force a patient?

/bamba
Message: Posted by: andykean (Feb 4, 2008 07:35PM)
Ordered this in view of the reviews of outlaw quality products
Can't wait please don't supply to any one else in New Zealand, it seems only fair!
best wishes
Andy
P.S being an englishman with now Kiwi citizenship should give many presentational possibilities
Message: Posted by: DrTodd (Feb 5, 2008 01:37AM)
Thanks Andy! The effect is based on a UK institution, but for non-UK users it offers equally powerful presentations. The book is a vehicle for exploring a whole range of themes that have a wide appeal.
Message: Posted by: Silvertongue (Feb 5, 2008 07:18AM)
[quote]
On 2008-02-04 20:35, andykean wrote:
Ordered this in view of the reviews of outlaw quality products
Can't wait please don't supply to any one else in New Zealand, it seems only fair!
best wishes
Andy
P.S being an englishman with now Kiwi citizenship should give many presentational possibilities
[/quote]

Outlaw is Heaven sent...

I am English living in America, Oklahoma at the moment but Los Angeles is my home. The presentational possibilities are endless, a storytellers dream...
I have never been so inspired...

All thanks to the Outlaw Posse...
Message: Posted by: patrick66 (Feb 5, 2008 12:11PM)
Does Luna require a lot of memory work? And can it be done in the Dutch language as long as the participant understands English? Thanks for your info.
Message: Posted by: Roth (Feb 5, 2008 01:30PM)
[quote]
On 2008-02-05 13:11, patrick66 wrote:
Does Luna require a lot of memory work? And can it be done in the Dutch language as long as the participant understands English? Thanks for your info.
[/quote]
This is the easiest "work" you will have it down very quick. Easier than Witches (which is pretty easy)

If they can read English, you can do the presentation in Dutch with no problem at all.
Message: Posted by: Mik (Feb 6, 2008 01:07AM)
That does look awesome, surely be interested in some of Outlaw effects down the road when I feel confident.

I think I have a family member who spent some time inside Colney Hatch as a patient. got an email in to the folks back in the UK to double check.
Message: Posted by: Chris H (Feb 6, 2008 02:03AM)
Forgive my ignorance,

What is it? The book looks great, but what's the basic premise? Is it a book test? Or something else?

-- Topher
Message: Posted by: Floyd Collins (Feb 6, 2008 05:41AM)
Topher,
ITs a book test Plus plus plus plus. With the effects like Luna, Reflections, Witches Almanac or any of the books at Outlaw, you can do a whole host of effects. To say they are book test only is not doing the effects justices. But that is how Roth has them listed!!! I find them to be a lot lot more. SO you can have a quick Book Test effect and blend it in with your book test routine or you can go a lot further with his effects.
Message: Posted by: roman59 (Feb 6, 2008 04:43PM)
I placed my order tonight for Luna :)

If its half as good as Witches I will be a really satisfied customer as usual.

Cheers
Message: Posted by: Eddie Garland (Feb 7, 2008 01:55PM)
[quote]
On 2008-02-06 06:41, aceofharts wrote:
Topher,
To say they are book test only is not doing the effects justices.
[/quote]

So true. Outlaw documents covertly deliver huge blasts of period and style information that can then be channeled into entertainment.

LUNA!!!
Those folks at OutLaw have lost more sleep than usual on this one.
The very nature of this particular book had to be considered and plotted very delicately.

I continue to be absolutely stunned at each tool that OutLaw offers us.

Luna is about to rise in full.
I would line up somewhere for a midnight release if I could.
Message: Posted by: Doug Higley (Feb 7, 2008 03:22PM)
While Murder and Prisons are an interesting theme and hook...Luna is a book EVERYONE can relate to, meaning the Women will be very approachable with this Asylum theme more than vivisectinal thoughts of being sliced up me thinks. Just a guess.

Think...in the background is a demented childrens chorus singing slightly off key, echoing barely heard...the Childrens Ward...a mothers instinct...the peril is real...thump thump...thump thump...
Message: Posted by: RevJohn (Feb 7, 2008 05:12PM)
Sweet... a new effect for my Children's sermon!! (grin).

Ok, seriously though I have this on pre-order, and can't wait. The presentations around the human factor, etc., seem endless.

RevJohn
Message: Posted by: illusioneer (Feb 8, 2008 12:25AM)
Any leads on newspaper articles depicting Colney Hatch and the practices involved?

How hard would it be to craft a replica or prop article to accompany this to fully immerse the audience into the twilight zone?

I'm tearing into all my couch cushions to round up some pennies to buy this...
Message: Posted by: DrTodd (Feb 8, 2008 06:40AM)
[quote]
On 2008-02-08 01:25, illusioneer wrote:
Any leads on newspaper articles depicting Colney Hatch and the practices involved?

How hard would it be to craft a replica or prop article to accompany this to fully immerse the audience into the twilight zone?

I'm tearing into all my couch cushions to round up some pennies to buy this...
[/quote]

There are many reports on line and press cuttings on a fire in 1903 and other developments...have fun on google!
Message: Posted by: CAROLINI (Feb 8, 2008 05:19PM)
Luna looks like another looney or I mean winner. All the Outlaw effects are winners in a class by themselves as a BT.
Message: Posted by: Floyd Collins (Feb 9, 2008 10:32PM)
Illusioneer,
here you go make your own!!
http://www.fodey.com/generators/newspaper/snippet.asp

Roth,
How about an update, will they be going out on time????
Message: Posted by: illusioneer (Feb 10, 2008 12:44AM)
Muchas gracias, Ace!
Message: Posted by: Mik (Feb 10, 2008 01:10AM)
Ace cool link and it already has sown seeds of other uses.
Message: Posted by: DrTodd (Feb 10, 2008 02:50AM)
Ace! I generated one for kicks! File size too big for here but that site is really cool!!!
Message: Posted by: Floyd Collins (Feb 10, 2008 08:52AM)
This one is not free but you could make your own full news paper if you want from these guys.
http://www.trixiepixgraphics.com/newspapers/write_custom.html

Not free like the clips one but hey if you realy want one here is a way.
Message: Posted by: DrTodd (Feb 11, 2008 12:22PM)
You're killin me with this stuff! Great leads!
Message: Posted by: Roth (Feb 13, 2008 06:49PM)
We will have Luna back from the binders on Monday. They will be shipping by mid-week!

I'm going to keep the pre-sale up until Sunday night!

Thanks guys!

Rick
Message: Posted by: kinesis (Feb 14, 2008 03:50AM)
[quote]
On 2008-02-13 19:49, Roth wrote:
I'm going to keep the pre-sale up until Sunday night!
[/quote]

Brilliant, some of my Blackpool convention cash will be on it's way to you soon.

Derek
Message: Posted by: Eddie Garland (Feb 15, 2008 03:35PM)
As we wait in line for Luna the crowd spontaneously began to sing...

I see the bad moon arising.
I see trouble on the way.
I see earthquakes and lightnin'.
I see bad times today.

Don't go around tonight,
Well, it's bound to take your life,
There's a bad moon on the rise.
Message: Posted by: kinesis (Feb 17, 2008 11:53AM)
Just parted with the cash. Only a few hours left to take advantage of the pre-sale price. £41.88 in GBP via paypal. This is my first venture into the Outlaw book test range and I'm quite excited about it all. Luna seems to have great theatrical potential.
Message: Posted by: andykean (Feb 19, 2008 01:31AM)
Hi Rick

any ETA on delivery to sunny New Zealand?

can't wait

best wishes
Andy
Message: Posted by: Roth (Feb 19, 2008 01:56AM)
[quote]
On 2008-02-19 02:31, andykean wrote:
Hi Rick

any ETA on delivery to sunny New Zealand?

can't wait

best wishes
Andy
[/quote]
Luna starts shipping world wide on friday. So get ready. This is the closest to real mind reading and "channeling" as you can get.

I talk with my partner Dr. Todd Landman everyday about how real the effect is. I "play" the presentation in my head all the time, and it is sooo strong.

The really wonderful thing is, I believe Luna is the easiest book test method wise of all my books.

Enough of my blathering. The books will be hitting mail boxes in a little over a week.

BTW Luna came off the pre-order sale price last night, but the nice thing is, both Luna and the Witches' Almanac can now be included in my discount package deals.

So if you missed the pre-sale price you can still get a great price when you purchase 2 or more Outlaw products.

thanks guys!
Message: Posted by: Tom Jorgenson (Feb 19, 2008 12:38PM)
....and thank you!
Message: Posted by: princehal (Feb 19, 2008 03:27PM)
W00t -- can't wait!
Message: Posted by: bkowkabany (Feb 20, 2008 04:24PM)
I missed the pre-sale price but for the few extra bucks it's still a no-brainer. Just put my order in Rick. Thanks!
Message: Posted by: Vincent.Lynch (Feb 20, 2008 04:38PM)
Darnit, I own reflections but I think I want luna too. :)
Message: Posted by: kinesis (Feb 21, 2008 03:54AM)
[quote]
On 2008-02-20 17:38, Vincent.Lynch wrote:
Darnit, I own reflections but I think I want luna too. :)
[/quote]

Look closely at the screen Vincent

:hypnodisk:

BUY LUNA...BUY LUNA...
Message: Posted by: tboehnlein (Feb 25, 2008 02:30PM)
Does anyone know if this shipped yet, really looking forward to it, I thought I saw something about it being delayed due to illness?
Message: Posted by: Roth (Feb 25, 2008 02:46PM)
[quote]
On 2008-02-25 15:30, tboehnlein wrote:
Does anyone know if this shipped yet, really looking forward to it, I thought I saw something about it being delayed due to illness?
[/quote]
Hi Guys. Yes I've been fighting the flu for almost 10 days now and it's a real drag. The books came in from the binders but until a couple days ago I literally didn't have the energy to sit for hours and age them. I've just started aging them (still feel like crap) and will start getting them out by the end of the week.

Just bad timing for me to get sick with everyone waiting for the books. Sorry about this.

Thanks
Rick
Message: Posted by: Logan Five (Feb 25, 2008 02:58PM)
Rick,

I am saving my pennies for this one. Looks darn interesting...
Message: Posted by: howdoidisconnect (Feb 25, 2008 03:12PM)
[quote]
On 2008-02-25 15:46, Roth wrote:
[quote]
On 2008-02-25 15:30, tboehnlein wrote:
Does anyone know if this shipped yet, really looking forward to it, I thought I saw something about it being delayed due to illness?
[/quote]
Hi Guys. Yes I've been fighting the flu for almost 10 days now and it's a real drag. The books came in from the binders but until a couple days ago I literally didn't have the energy to sit for hours and age them. I've just started aging them (still feel like crap) and will start getting them out by the end of the week.

Just bad timing for me to get sick with everyone waiting for the books. Sorry about this.

Thanks
Rick
[/quote]

Well that just no excuse!... no.. only joking.

Seriously get yourself well first, no one has ever died from not receiving an effect, So do not bust a gut for us. But the flu can drag on for ages if you don't get yourself healthly again.

regards,
Steve
Message: Posted by: tboehnlein (Feb 25, 2008 03:16PM)
No problem, My kids just get fed up with me making them run down the drive looking for the package, I'll give them a break till next week.
Message: Posted by: Roth (Feb 28, 2008 04:11PM)
FINALLY! Books are going out Monday as quick as we can. I have someone that was trained to age Witch books (hers come out even better than mine!) and she's helping to age the Luna books so I can get the pipeline flowing.

Dr. Todd and I are grateful for all the orders and the patience of our buyers.

Rick
Message: Posted by: andyfisher (Feb 28, 2008 04:25PM)
I am very excited Rick - hope you are feeling better now!
Message: Posted by: MDantes (Feb 28, 2008 04:44PM)
Indeed...
Message: Posted by: andykean (Feb 29, 2008 08:22PM)
Ditto can't wait for nz post
Message: Posted by: Floyd Collins (Feb 29, 2008 08:25PM)
Same here, hope your feeling better now, and cant wait for the book to get here.
Message: Posted by: videokideo (Feb 29, 2008 11:55PM)
[quote]
On 2008-02-25 15:46, Roth wrote:
[quote]
On 2008-02-25 15:30, tboehnlein wrote:
Does anyone know if this shipped yet, really looking forward to it, I thought I saw something about it being delayed due to illness?
[/quote]
Hi Guys. Yes I've been fighting the flu for almost 10 days now and it's a real drag. The books came in from the binders but until a couple days ago I literally didn't have the energy to sit for hours and age them. I've just started aging them (still feel like crap) and will start getting them out by the end of the week.

Just bad timing for me to get sick with everyone waiting for the books. Sorry about this.

Thanks
Rick
[/quote]

Order LUNA, get the FLU for free! Now there is a gag to play!

Or, you could have kept it secret, sent flu germs with all orders, and then on your website, predict all who ordered LUNA would become ill due to its powers!

MARKETING!


Ive been sick as well, so will order soon. Trying to get caught up!
Message: Posted by: StrangeMagick (Mar 1, 2008 02:56PM)
Roth:

Hope you're all healed up now. My wife got the flu and we had to cancel our trip to Disney today (March 1). I'm looking forward to Luna. If it is only half as good as the Almanac, it'll rock!

Dave Birtwell
Message: Posted by: tboehnlein (Mar 1, 2008 11:31PM)
Patience goes a long way when there is communication,too bad others do not understand that.
Message: Posted by: Silvertongue (Mar 2, 2008 09:17AM)
I am told on a regular basis that I am crazy - or loco as my Mexican workmates like to call me - I have strapped on my straightjacket and will be bouncing off the walls untill my Luna arrives.

That infernal clock ticks louder and louder as the minutes and hours pass by. I can't sit still...

I know I'm being watched since my involvement with the Sanctum, they know who I am now, there is no escape... not even death...

Its the voices though... in my head... they are telling me to do things...

" Purchase all Outlaw products..." Over and over again...

I think I'm going MAD!!!
Message: Posted by: Floyd Collins (Mar 2, 2008 09:26AM)
Hey Rick got mine yesterday. I KNOW I KNOW You all wish you were me!! I KNOW!!

Thanks man I really like this, I did not know when it was going to come but it did. As I was sitting at the table yesterday I started to sneeze and sneeze. Woke up this morning and I have the Flu.

Question is why did the flu get here before Luna??? At any rate, thanks for the flu man, and I look forward to Luna anytime as well.
Message: Posted by: Roth (Mar 2, 2008 02:54PM)
[quote]
On 2008-03-02 10:26, aceofharts wrote:
Hey Rick got mine yesterday. I KNOW I KNOW You all wish you were me!! I KNOW!!

Thanks man I really like this, I did not know when it was going to come but it did. As I was sitting at the table yesterday I started to sneeze and sneeze. Woke up this morning and I have the Flu.

Question is why did the flu get here before Luna??? At any rate, thanks for the flu man, and I look forward to Luna anytime as well.
[/quote]
The flu stuff is very funny. Your book should be there around summer sometime.


Just kidding buddy. Books are shipping all this week!
Message: Posted by: Floyd Collins (Mar 2, 2008 03:28PM)
Ok well now all I want to know is where are the instructions for shutting this flu thing off. You never sent the instructions for that. Guess I will just have to sleep on it and figure it out myself. Someone said ask Dr. Dayquil he would know!!!
Thanks for playing along Rick.
Message: Posted by: Eddie Garland (Mar 2, 2008 05:07PM)
Gatorade...drink lots of Gatorade boys. Flu thing hates Gatorade.
Luna is about to rise!
Message: Posted by: princehal (Mar 2, 2008 07:15PM)
You get the flu AND Luna all on one package! There is a deal!

I have had it for 2 weeks, it lingers.
Message: Posted by: kinesis (Mar 3, 2008 03:50AM)
I don't want the flu part of Luna. Is a discount available if I return the flu still in it's original packaging but keep Luna?
Message: Posted by: John Nesbit (Mar 3, 2008 09:16AM)
[quote]
On 2008-03-02 18:07, Eddie Garland wrote:
Gatorade...drink lots of Gatorade boys. Flu thing hates Gatorade.
Luna is about to rise!
[/quote]

Has anyone mentioned lately? Great trailer for Luna, Eddie.
Message: Posted by: Roth (Mar 4, 2008 02:20PM)
Luna shipping today- Luna shipping tomorrow -Luna shipping friday! As the batches reach the "cured" stage they are going out.

It's non stop Lunamania over here. I have a trained assistant (beautiful collage girl) helping age the books (at her house, please!) so we are going at it non stop (I know you didn't just say that)

Insanity is headed your way!

RR
Message: Posted by: Floyd Collins (Mar 5, 2008 09:08AM)
Awesome NEWS!!!!!
Message: Posted by: JonWhite (Mar 5, 2008 09:10AM)
Yep, something to howl and bark about! :)
Message: Posted by: IAIN (Mar 5, 2008 09:17AM)
I'm looking forward to seeing dr. T perform this for me soon...

I'm also looking forward to my magnum wallet arriving flu-less in england...but I must have patience...only ordered it on the 29th of feb...

its always the way, when you really want something, the days drag on and on...
Message: Posted by: Silvertongue (Mar 5, 2008 09:23AM)
Serious Abraxus...

Rick said they will ship out Friday - the M3M - I'm trying not to think about it.
Excited to read the reviews that will start rolling in soon though.
Message: Posted by: kinesis (Mar 5, 2008 09:23AM)
Roth: I'm sure my Luna book will be as beautiful as your college girl.
Message: Posted by: Vincent.Lynch (Mar 5, 2008 10:01AM)
= )
Message: Posted by: Roth (Mar 6, 2008 05:46PM)
Luna books are now on their way all over the world (the first batch) Another batch is shipping tomorrow.

Most went to the U.S. and the U.K. (That's you Vincent)

It will take about a week to get all the books out up to March first orders. Then it should be about a week from order to shipping on new orders.

These are custom aged hand done books boys, so I know you have been very patient and they are going out as fast as me and my gorgeous collage girl assistant can age them.

If your book smells like fresh flowers she aged it, if it smells like dirt, I aged it. :rotf:
Message: Posted by: IAIN (Mar 6, 2008 05:47PM)
By the way Roth, when does the Magnum wallet ship please?
Message: Posted by: Roth (Mar 6, 2008 05:55PM)
[quote]
On 2008-03-06 18:47, abraxus wrote:
By the way Roth, when does the Magnum wallet ship please?
[/quote]
I expect them to ship Monday. They will go global priority and priority. I ordered a shipment of material from 3m a month ago and apparently I'm not a priority to them, they'd rather put Lucent technologies and Apple Ind. ahead of me in the queue, but I did get an email saying my shipment is in route a few days ago so I expect to have it tomorrow or saturday.

Once I have it the wallets can go. Without question they will ship this coming week.
Message: Posted by: Gerry Hennessey (Mar 6, 2008 07:43PM)
Rick,

Re Luna: You mentioned US and the UK for initial shipping. What about us Canadians? We even named our dollar coin a "looney" in honor of your latest creation. Don't forget us Canucks!

Hennessey
Message: Posted by: Roth (Mar 6, 2008 08:36PM)
[quote]
On 2008-03-06 20:43, Gerry Hennessey wrote:
Rick,

Re Luna: You mentioned US and the UK for initial shipping. What about us Canadians? We even named our dollar coin a "looney" in honor of your latest creation. Don't forget us Canucks!

Hennessey
[/quote]
Your Luna shipped Mr. Hennessey :)
Message: Posted by: Gerry Hennessey (Mar 6, 2008 09:41PM)
Thank you Rick. Wonderful service as always.

The clock is ticking until it arrives. Just realized! Does that make me a
"Luna-tick" !!!!

Hennessey
Message: Posted by: Mind Guerrilla (Oct 30, 2010 08:20PM)
How do these materials smell?

I ask because I've seen documents aged to look old but their fresh-from-Barnes-&-Noble aroma betrayed their lack of authenticity.

Thanks, in advance, to whoever replies.
Message: Posted by: Eddie Garland (Oct 30, 2010 08:36PM)
[quote]
On 2010-10-30 21:20, Mind Guerrilla wrote:
How do these materials smell?

I ask because I've seen documents aged to look old but their fresh-from-Barnes-&-Noble aroma betrayed their lack of authenticity.

Thanks, in advance, to whoever replies.
[/quote]

No worries there....They smell nothing like Barnes & noble...they smell of barn but not of noble.
Message: Posted by: Mind Guerrilla (Oct 31, 2010 12:19AM)
[quote]
On 2010-10-30 21:36, Eddie Garland wrote:

No worries there....They smell nothing like Barnes & noble...they smell of barn but not of noble.
[/quote]
If they smell like manure, I don't think I want any part of them. You're not serious, are you?
Message: Posted by: Roth (Oct 31, 2010 12:50AM)
[quote]
On 2010-10-31 01:19, Mind Guerrilla wrote:
[quote]
On 2010-10-30 21:36, Eddie Garland wrote:

No worries there....They smell nothing like Barnes & noble...they smell of barn but not of noble.
[/quote]
If they smell like manure, I don't think I want any part of them. You're not serious, are you?
[/quote]
Nice avatar!

They smell a little old and they look even older :)
Message: Posted by: dennfox (Oct 31, 2010 01:14AM)
My wife makes me keep them out in the garage--that should answer your question on how the props smell! Actually it's not that bad but they have a slight moldy smell to them.
Message: Posted by: Decomposed (Oct 31, 2010 12:08PM)
I had Luna with me last night for a strolling gig. I never said a word and handed it to a woman. She immediately said she was getting a negative vib from the book. This started a chain reaction. No smell was noted however. A good thing, I think. As far as I know, always a conversation ensues after I am finished with the book and have departed their immediate presence. I would call it self working but it is a bit more then that. :cool:

Decomp
Message: Posted by: Eddie Garland (Nov 2, 2010 07:42PM)
They smell appropriately old and it is not an issue. I just could not resist making the "barn/barnes" comment.
These books are genius. Simply not to be missed.
Message: Posted by: NFW (Aug 19, 2012 02:20PM)
Any long term user reviews??
Message: Posted by: Roth (Aug 19, 2012 02:25PM)
[quote]
On 2012-08-19 15:20, NFW wrote:
Any long term user reviews??
[/quote]
This is an interesting thread

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=475716&forum=14
Message: Posted by: DrTodd (Aug 21, 2012 02:50AM)
And now Will Self's new novel Umbrella is set in CH...

http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_4_8?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=umbrella+will+self&sprefix=umbrella%2Caps%2C139
Message: Posted by: theinternetguru (Aug 21, 2012 11:24AM)
I've used Luna for the last few months and had some tremendous reactions to it. I've used it at dinner parties and strolling for a small group, and in an auditorium for a large number of people, and it comes off great. One thing I have observed is that the the entry which is selected from the book can be more or less detailed, and the more detailed it happens to be, the more I "hit" and the stronger the reaction. Presenting this effect takes some additional drama, but the thing I like about it is that is so different from other kinds of mindreading effects. I'd highly recommend it.
Message: Posted by: NFW (Aug 21, 2012 04:38PM)
Thanks guys .
Message: Posted by: aligator (Aug 22, 2012 10:29AM)
I can also recommend this and have been using it off an on for three years.
Message: Posted by: NFW (Aug 23, 2012 07:35PM)
That's great, just bought. So now the wait!
Message: Posted by: Atlas (Aug 24, 2012 12:15AM)
I doubt that you will be disappointed. Outlaw has a well-deserved reputation for quality, and my experience was no different.
Message: Posted by: Dougini (Aug 31, 2012 09:40AM)
Oh, yes! This is my "new direction" I am taking! Magic has fallen flat for me. It's all "I know how you did it, I saw it on YouTube..." now. Nope. Not gonna do that no mo'. This is "an experience". So, with that, I just PayPalled Outlaw for all three books.

Let's see, the next one..P*@rly G@tes, and then finally, the L*N@ K*y B*x! Guys, in case you're wondering, I trying to make this Google-proof. Too late for the previous posts, but let's keep it all on the DownLow... :)

Doug
Message: Posted by: Dougini (Sep 6, 2012 09:27PM)
And, the three books arrived today! And, Rick sent me a .PDF of So Dark, so I have been at this all day. Where do I begin...the books. My gosh...they are authentic! You can really believe these are from the 1930's! Absolutely perfect! I really had no idea until I saw them, just how OLD they appear!

Every page, aged perfectly, and the covers faded just like they would be if they were 76 - 78 years old! I am amazed I actually ran across this! I was not looking for Mentalism or Spooky stuff, in fact the Banner in Tricks & Effects allured me.

I have a thing for Goth chicks...I don't know why, I just do. I saw that black-haired beauty peeking out at me every time I went there. So, I clicked on it. Life will never be the same...

Doug
Message: Posted by: Dougini (Sep 10, 2012 12:56PM)
Well, today I tried out 1936. :eek: Yeah! It's that easy to do! You really need to brush up on your acting skills though, and be natural. Well...my building's maintainence supervisor had a "religous experience" this morning! Ha! :)

It was like ten minutes in performance total. In this case, the young girl was scared...of the guy next door! And I described them both in detail. The Supe' was dumbstruck! He was convinced beyond a doubt that our minds had melded! Now he asks if I "do readings" and stuff like that. Ha! No, I don't...just entertainment.

Friends, L*n@ is not just one book. It's not just the three books. You'll need P*@rly G@tes as well. Plus the H*bb's L*na K*y B*x with the bell and all the photos and printed material you can make up. I can tell ya, getting the older woman in 1936 is going to go quick, and you will want more to fill out the act.

Also look at some other O*tL@w artifacts to add to, or enhance this wonderful routine! Next: I'm learning 1935...let's see how this fits it... :)

Doug
Message: Posted by: aligator (Sep 10, 2012 01:26PM)
Doug,

Glad it's going well for you. I only have 1936 but have put it to good use. In fact, will be using it Friday in conjunction with PG. Pearly Gates really does make a positive difference, not only for the extra hits, but for solving the one and only problem I had with Luna and that was the "in". The best ever in this respect is Phantoms imo but it is no longer available. I would strongly advise anyone who does not have it to keep their eyes peeled on the secondary market in case one becomes available. If you love Luna, you will likely have an orgasm when and if you see Phantoms.
Message: Posted by: Godzilla (Sep 10, 2012 02:12PM)
I think a unused 'Phantoms' may be listed on Café,later tonight! I heard it has a pretty good COA number,too! :)

Won't be cheap...
Message: Posted by: aligator (Sep 10, 2012 02:25PM)
[quote]
On 2012-09-10 15:12, Godzilla wrote:
I think a unused 'Phantoms' may be listed on Café,later tonight! I heard it has a pretty good COA number,too! :)

Won't be cheap...
[/quote]

Selling yours? Oh my.......why?
Message: Posted by: David Thiel (Sep 10, 2012 03:37PM)
I've got PG, Phantoms, Lillian's Diary and a couple of other outstanding book tests. I have all three of the Luna books...and you know something? Pound for pound...minute for minute...there is NOTHING stronger for a small group than Luna 1935. It's inspired tears, shivers and pure awe when performed.

I don't do it in large stage shows, although I expect it would play well with the right treatment, but it is utterly jaw-dropping for small groups. I wouldn't trade this effect for a pound of gold.

Well....maybe...... :)

The key is presentation and acting. It must be presented FRESH each time you do it -- even if you've performed it twice before that same night. You will blow the doors off your audience when you do it properly. It is absolutely my most treasured effect for small groups.

David
Message: Posted by: Dougini (Sep 10, 2012 04:11PM)
Just 1935, David? To repeat, or do you go into '34 & '36 as well? I'm studying 1935 starting tonight. I do plan on PG, no question. Let's do '35, and I'll check back here. I see there is a Wild Card...hmmm.

Doug
Message: Posted by: aligator (Sep 10, 2012 04:27PM)
Personally, I would rather stick with just one Luna and pick up something else like Phantoms, if ever available, or maybe Ipswich or Lillian?
But if you already have 3 Luna's, proceed as you were.......unless you have deep pockets.....then buy em all.
Message: Posted by: David Thiel (Sep 10, 2012 04:55PM)
I only actually perform 1935. I see how PG could work as an intro to Luna...but I am still deciding whether or not I want it use it that way. It is a solid effect, for sure. But if I put it into my Paranormal show, something has to come out.

Here's the thing, Doug: personally I have to guard against the thought process that says "If one is good, two is better." Luna absolutely blows people away...virtually every time. Would I expect STRONGER reactions if I preface it with another book? Perhaps if your show was built around magical books, or the presentation of an eccentric uncle's book collection...

But my bottom line question: would the presentation of two books along the same theme weaken the impact of both?

Would I ever pull LUNA and put PG in? Not while there's breath in my body. It may just be a case of me feeling completely at home and eternally delighted with LUNA (ie that happy situation of having found the absolute perfectly suited routine to me)...but I don't think so.

I grow tired of watching card tricks after just a few minutes...even if the tricks are extraordinary. I'd be concerned the same thing might happen when I take my audiences to a certain bleak and hopeless asylum twice in a row.

Is there another prop/routine that delivers surprise after surprise...knockout punch after knock-out punch like LUNA 1935? Nope. This is a routine that takes the audience on an emotional journey...there's discovery...adventure...chills...delicious revelation. It is to book tests what a jaguar is to house cats. How do you improve on that?

If I choose to put a new effect into my show, I do it to improve the flow or the show. I am not convinced (and I'm not calling down PG at all) bringing in any other book would accomplish this.

That's all I'm saying. And I am writing from an admittedly myopic viewpoint as to what I see working best for me.

David
Message: Posted by: Dougini (Sep 10, 2012 05:09PM)
Thank you David! I'll comment on 1935 when I'm done, :)

Doug
Message: Posted by: Decomposed (Sep 10, 2012 05:18PM)
It pays to refresh your knowledge of Luna from time to time if you have not performed it in a while. Just a FYI, don't want to be caught out on it while under fire.
Message: Posted by: Dr. Van Van Mojo (Sep 11, 2012 10:11PM)
[quote]
On 2012-09-10 16:37, David Thiel wrote:
I've got PG, Phantoms, Lillian's Diary and a couple of other outstanding book tests. I have all three of the Luna books...and you know something? Pound for pound...minute for minute...there is NOTHING stronger for a small group than Luna 1935. It's inspired tears, shivers and pure awe when performed.

David
[/quote]

David,
What do you consider a small group? I'm trying to decide which Outlaw book test I want to get.
George
Message: Posted by: David Thiel (Sep 12, 2012 07:34AM)
The Paranormal shows I do are usually about 15 people. They have been as many as 25, but 15 keeps it a shared experience. I've done that show for as few as 6 people as well.

David
Message: Posted by: kinesis (Sep 12, 2012 08:48AM)
I love LUNA. I have a nice 'dark' powerpoint presenation as I lead into the effect. If you have good acting ability, I agree with David, you have a very powerful emotional experience.
Message: Posted by: Dougini (Sep 12, 2012 12:27PM)
I see now the power of 1935. The fact that it links with 1934 & '36 is incredible, but just a stand-alone act with 1935 is stunning! I still have to study 1934, but I think I'm gonna stick with 1935 for now, until I have it down. :)

Doug
Message: Posted by: Dr. Van Van Mojo (Sep 12, 2012 08:51PM)
[quote]
On 2012-09-12 08:34, David Thiel wrote:
The Paranormal shows I do are usually about 15 people. They have been as many as 25, but 15 keeps it a shared experience. I've done that show for as few as 6 people as well.

David
[/quote]

Thanks.
Message: Posted by: Dreadnought (Sep 12, 2012 10:35PM)
I have 34, 35 and 36, as well as Lillian. I use 34, 35 and 36 in large stage shows. I haven't tried Lillian in a large setting yet. However, 34,35,and 36 play very well and definitely get the haunted feel, especially with the eerie background music. I also employ "Departed" and "Chiller" in the performance.

Peace and Godspeed.
Message: Posted by: Godzilla (Sep 13, 2012 01:32AM)
Drop down to the Cellar,and check out the "For Your Eyes Only" thread, in 'Spooky' !
Message: Posted by: aligator (Sep 13, 2012 07:33AM)
I hope you are sleeping well. I can feel the spirits a comin.........Garrrrrry. It's dangerous to spend too much time inside the crypt and even moreso when one is steeped in the ways of evil materialism. Good luck :)
Message: Posted by: theinternetguru (Sep 16, 2012 10:50AM)
I just performed Luna 1935 at a dinner party, it's one of the strongest effects in my act, though I typically use it in smaller settings (as the power of it is reinforced when people can flip through the book, see its "age" and verify that the room occupants are different from page to page). I homed in on a couple that had experiences with a professional psychic, prior to the show, to read the patient logs, as I knew the reaction would be strong. Though I had made clear that I was not a psychic and that there were no psychic abilities involved in anything I did. Partway through the reveal, the lady started screaming. Lol. It was like an L&L Publishing moment.
Message: Posted by: aligator (Sep 16, 2012 10:56AM)
With these books, I always pass them around for a looksee. They will easily pass inspection. For that reason, I perform something like Luna towards the middle or end of a set so that there is time to pass around before actually using it.
Message: Posted by: Dougini (Sep 16, 2012 12:01PM)
Well, friends, I performed L*n@ last night for ten people at a friend's house. I did 1936, since that one I have done for one other person. Wow. This is NOTHING like performing magic...

I had a girl as a sitter, about 21/22 yrs old. We got the insane guy. When I described the scared girl next door, she froze up. Hmmm. OK, I kept going, and when I got to the name, she got up and left the room. Someone else took the book and I finished.

Later the owner of the house took me aside, and asked me if what I did was for real. I told him it was purely entertainment. Well, apparently she had left, extremely disturbed someone could get inside her head like that. Hey, the girl seemed edgy from the start, but that made the show!

The rest were all talking excitedly when I returned. None of them had ever seen anything like that in person. This is a good crowd for this type of effect. A couple people asked me for a personal reading! I explained that it was all pure entertainment, and I don't do readings. "It was FOR REAL, Dude! No WAY could you have known all that from 500 people!" That was another girl who was shaken.

"You never even LOOKED at the book! C'mon, man...don't .bullsh*t us!" I guess I have to just play along! Wow. Wait until I put a Spirit Bell together! Tim W. is going to help me with this. I have an idea or two he has to help me with. Then...gosh. Will that be too much? Heck L*n@ 1936 blew them away...I still have 1934 & '35 to get down.

L*n@ is more than worth the $200 I spent for the three books! Heck, just the 1936 did this. I'm going to Boston next week to visit my sister. Maybe I'll take L*n@ along... :)

Doug
Message: Posted by: aligator (Sep 16, 2012 12:06PM)
Add Pearly Gates for a lead in when you have a chance.......mmmmm maybe not. Perhaps specs will be getting up and leaving before you get to Luna. Make sure thet are seated and apparently stable before you begin. Fun....isn't it, this mentalism.
Message: Posted by: NFW (Sep 16, 2012 01:15PM)
Can't wait for my 1935 to arrive !
Message: Posted by: Dougini (Sep 16, 2012 04:47PM)
[quote]
On 2012-09-16 13:06, aligator wrote:
Add P*@rly G@tes for a lead in when you have a chance...mmmmm maybe not. Perhaps specs will be getting up and leaving before you get to Luna.
[/quote]

P*@rly G@tes is my next 0utl@w purchase! Yeah, I can see now, where one has to be sensitive to the beliefs of others. Getting them emotionally involved is one thing. Terrifying them is another. I do not wish to terrify anyone. I'd be in a deeper Bizarre mode if I did. Seances/ghost tapping, etc.

Making the sitter or spectator (in L*n@) the "star" of the show is essential, or you end up looking egotistical. It bothered the girl last night that I was actually able to "read her thoughts". She was worried what else I might know about her now (?)!

[quote]
Make sure they are seated and apparently stable before you begin.
[/quote]

Yeah, and I try to explain this is all entertainment, and that they are participating in an experiment to see how in touch we are with each other, mentally. Ha! May as well throw that out the window...they were convinced it was real! :rolleyes:

[quote]
Fun....isn't it, this mentalism.
[/quote]

I love it! I have so many ideas right now, my head is spinning! The Spirit Bell is next. After I buy P*@rly G@tes, I'm gonna have Tim W. work with me on my own idea. Hopefully I can pull this off. I have a feeling I'm gonna get a call from my friend to come and do this again. That's why I have to get 1935 & '34 down pat. I'm gonna see how it goes at my sister's next week. At least six people will be there.

Doug
Message: Posted by: bobbyhasbun (Sep 20, 2012 02:26AM)
I received my copy of Luna '35 about 4 hours ago.

I can honestly say that I've never been happier with a purchase in my life. I emailed Outlaw just to tell them that. It looks THAT good. It even smells old.

I hold it with a sort of reverence; I realize how much power lies between the covers. I look forward to my first performance with it.

The memorization is quite easy, if you're wondering. In a day or two you'll have it down. Maybe less. Obviously presentation and scripting (if you choose to script it; it works well jazzed I've heard) take a lot longer. As far as just the pure memory goes- simple.

I keep finding myself pulling it out of my bizarre box every ten or twenty minutes just to hold it. And the So Dark manual: I read all 100+ pages cover to cover in about 40 min. It just makes you more excited to perform it.

Outlaw Effects could easily be charging way more for these books.

Congratulations to anyone who owns Luna. That's all I have to say.

PS I also received a Carnie Tarot. I just placed an order for a second one. Enough said :)
Message: Posted by: Dougini (Sep 20, 2012 12:35PM)
Hi Bobby!

Welcome to the Café! What you have in your hands is cutting edge! Are you gonna get 1934 & 36? Also look at P*@rly G@tes, as it goes right along with it. As you can see I got quite a stir from my first performance.

These books LITERALLY saved me from ending forty years of magic. I have HAD it with the Masked Magician, YouTube, and sadly, Google. Transforming into the Bizarre/Mentalism genre is the only place left for me to go. I'm tired of flashy boxes, tubes and church-collection bags to make magic.

Welcome to L*n@! I code it that way to prevent Google from hitting. Thanks for posting! :)

Doug
Message: Posted by: bobbyhasbun (Sep 21, 2012 01:53PM)
Thanks, Doug! Same thing happened to me. I still fiddle with cards for my own pleasure, but I was sick of saying "Pick a card." and all the nerdy connotations that go along with it. It got to the point where I was too embarassed to say I did magic. I was looking for a way to do magic where the audience didn't think of it as magic. That's where bizarre magic came in for me. The first time I tried a dead/alive test from Anneman on someone, I was hooked. That one reaction was 1000x better than anything I'd gotten with close-up magic.
Message: Posted by: spookyone (Sep 24, 2012 01:45PM)
LVN@ is the coolest thing I've ever seen. You can have no problems convincing people you're legitimately psychic if you wanted to ():-) I haven't even seen my copy but reading the SoDark manual definitely has me excited about it. I just ordered PG as well the other day so I'm excited to see how those fit together. Who knows, maybe I'll actually perform it for a small group one of these days and be legit LOL

I'd also love to do something with WA and the Dark Dawn Tarot, maybe some fortune telling "for entertainment purposes only" ;-) I run events for my student council, I wish I had heard about this stuff sooner, I could have put together a little hallowe'en carnival or something. Ah well, file that away for a later day. With the gemstones and crystal ball props, it could be something really cool.

I also got some interesting background props for LVn@: an old wooden box, photos of 1920s/30s people including a nurse and a sad-looking woman in her 30s, and a 1935 British nursing dictionary. I think they can really add to the effect, like it's the nurse's box from CHMH that I got on an online auction (since my friends/family know I'm always buying old books and stuff on ebay and etsy).

Cool stuff!
Message: Posted by: Dougini (Sep 25, 2012 04:35PM)
Well, guys! I performed 1935 & 36 at my sister's. It was phenomenal! I kept it simple, and "played up the act", so to speak.

I acted shocked at discovering the horror next door and so forth. I had to sit down a couple of times because the info was so shocking! My sisters were both blown away, but my brother-in-law was dumbfounded! He had one book, and his wife (my other sister) had the other.

I heard them talking in the bedroom that night. He said he no longer thinks of me the same (!). "Everything he said was RIGHT! You can't fake that, there was too much info, in TWO different books! Is he [i]possessed[/i] or something?" Ha ha! They are both staunch Catholics. She said that it scared her. "You see this on TV all the time. This was real life! And my own brother!"

My other sister and her husbamd just sat there open-mouthed. She did not even want to talk about it later. Her husband said he thorougholy enjoyed it. So...a very successful night! I still have to get 1934 down now!

Thank you Outl@w! :)

Doug
Message: Posted by: maxnew40 (Sep 26, 2012 12:20PM)
I just broke down and ordered 1935. I can't hardly wait!

-Max
Message: Posted by: NFW (Sep 26, 2012 01:20PM)
Mine has just arrived, it looks very very authentic. Going to get reading now......
Message: Posted by: Dougini (Sep 27, 2012 07:43PM)
OMG...reading S0 D@rk I realized a link can be done using a dead person! I had to read it again, but now I understand! Yeah, ya need all three books...I see that now. I haven't gotten 1935 down comfortably yet. Just the basics. I haven't even looked at 1934.

So, now I order P*@rly G@tes...let's see where that takes us...

Doug
Message: Posted by: piyuyu (Sep 27, 2012 09:22PM)
I had made my order early this week on all 3 books. I too am eagerly waiting for them to come.
Message: Posted by: DrTodd (Sep 28, 2012 11:30AM)
Heads up to all L@nA folks

Check out Paul voodini's new PDF

There is an effect in there that is perfect to combine with your presentation....

Dr T
Message: Posted by: M Sini (Sep 28, 2012 11:55AM)
I received 1935 a week or two ago and just started reading the pdf last night. The pdf adds so much!
Message: Posted by: Dougini (Oct 1, 2012 03:23PM)
Which PDF, Paul Voodini's, or the So Dark Manual? I'm not familiar with the Voodini, and there are no links, so I assume you're talking about the So Dark, and you're right! It's a must-have! :)

Doug
Message: Posted by: Voodini (Oct 1, 2012 03:40PM)
[quote]
On 2012-10-01 16:23, Dougini wrote:
Which PDF, Paul Voodini's, or the So Dark Manual? I'm not familiar with the Voodini, and there are no links, so I assume you're talking about the So Dark, and you're right! It's a must-have! :)

Doug
[/quote]
Hi Doug. The PDF that Todd was referencing was my latest release "A Lightning Rod to the Spirits" (see Spooky for reviews). It features a routine set in a mental hospital. Upon finishing writing up the routine it did cross my mind that there was the possibility of combining my routine with L@na to create a full 'family history' style routine. Lightning Rod to the Spirits can be found at my site http://www.readerofminds.co.uk
Message: Posted by: M Sini (Oct 1, 2012 07:26PM)
Doug, I was referring to the So Dark manual.
Message: Posted by: DrTodd (Oct 2, 2012 12:56AM)
[quote]
On 2012-10-01 16:40, Voodini wrote:
[quote]
On 2012-10-01 16:23, Dougini wrote:
Which PDF, Paul Voodini's, or the So Dark Manual? I'm not familiar with the Voodini, and there are no links, so I assume you're talking about the So Dark, and you're right! It's a must-have! :)

Doug
[/quote]
Hi Doug. The PDF that Todd was referencing was my latest release "A Lightning Rod to the Spirits" (see Spooky for reviews). It features a routine set in a mental hospital. Upon finishing writing up the routine it did cross my mind that there was the possibility of combining my routine with L@na to create a full 'family history' style routine. Lightning Rod to the Spirits can be found at my site http://www.readerofminds.co.uk
[/quote]

Sorry Doug...Voodini's book is in spooky a few doors down...many of us inhabit both worlds :)
Message: Posted by: Dougini (Oct 3, 2012 12:32PM)
No, errr...yes! Uh...OK. Hey thanks guys! The So Dark Manual is really making sense now that I've done 1935 & 36. Adding 1934 to it opens it up further. Paul, I'm gonna go check out your book. Very much appreciated guys! :)

Doug
Message: Posted by: Dougini (Oct 12, 2012 01:28PM)
Hmmm..."Lightning Rod to the Spirits" looks interesting. I may have to spring for that...
Message: Posted by: Voodini (Oct 12, 2012 04:45PM)
[quote]
On 2012-10-12 14:28, Dougini wrote:
Hmmm..."Lightning Rod to the Spirits" looks interesting. I may have to spring for that...
[/quote]
Love to hear what you think Doug...
Message: Posted by: Decomposed (Oct 13, 2012 03:41PM)
I like the sound of "Rick Rocks."
Message: Posted by: A.J. (Oct 15, 2012 10:42AM)
On Friday, October 5th, The Wall Street Journal ran a special feature article on the Colney Hatch Asylum, with several color photographs. The article, entitled Asylum, Interrupted, describes how this once grim asylum has now been converted into high-end residences for British pop stars and other big-money celebrities.

The new name given to the complex is Princess Park Manor, in honor of Princess Diana.

It's an interesting article that some may find helpful in their presentations. I was quite surprised when I saw the article and the photos.

A.J.
Message: Posted by: TJ Halford (Oct 15, 2012 10:45AM)
Thanks for the tip AJ
Message: Posted by: Miguel Abril (Dec 7, 2012 05:01PM)
Can Luna be performed on spanish? Thanks
Message: Posted by: DrTodd (Dec 8, 2012 01:07AM)
Si es posible, pero el libro es en ingles :)
Message: Posted by: Miguel Abril (Dec 8, 2012 02:14AM)
DrTodd, so that is very awkward...
Message: Posted by: Roth (Dec 8, 2012 02:27AM)
[quote]
On 2012-12-07 18:01, Miguel Abril wrote:
Can Luna be performed on spanish? Thanks
[/quote]
The books are printed in English but the entries are fairly simple, names, dates. If they have have some English abilities, It can be explained in Spanish by you and then let them have the book.

Then you can do your revelations in Spanish
Message: Posted by: DrTodd (Dec 10, 2012 01:32AM)
Miguel: well the book is not in Spanish, and there is no reason for it to be in Spanish given its contents. Are there other examples of Spanish effects, such as MOABT?

Having said that, and I do not want to appear flippant, Rick is correct, but your audience will need to know some English vocabulary from the world of psychiatry.

Cheers

Todd
Message: Posted by: IAIN (Dec 10, 2012 06:45AM)
Its the difference between saying - soy loco, and estoy loco…n'est pas?
Message: Posted by: 1KJ (Mar 20, 2013 08:33PM)
I recently received this and it is truly unique!

It is so unique, that I would think participants would want more.

I'm not sure where to go from here.

I could see any number of segways, such as "I happen to have another year" to "I have another book that lists deaths", etc.

Your opinions, please.

Question number uno:
If you were to do one more, sort of related thing, what would you do? Would you use a different year? If so, what single other year would you use? Or, would you use a different book or different, but related effect altogether?

Also, question number two:
Have any of you made any comments in the book, and if so, generally what did you write? And, has anyone used a bit of re-stickable glue on any of the pages?

Thx,

KJ
Message: Posted by: Godzilla (Mar 20, 2013 10:05PM)
KJ,drop down stairs to the crypt!

What you seek may be there! Also,go to Outlaw Forum!
Message: Posted by: vianns (Sep 1, 2014 04:36PM)
I just received the Luna trilogy. And as I wrote on an other topic, it smells great ! I was first unsure about the font used in the books, but I guess there's nothing wrong with this character fonts.
I have to customize it now :)

I thanks Rick for all the mails he answered.
Message: Posted by: george1953 (Sep 1, 2014 05:34PM)
Have fun marking them up now, took me a month to do it :-)
Message: Posted by: vianns (Sep 2, 2014 11:20AM)
Wow ! Why was it that long ?
Message: Posted by: george1953 (Sep 2, 2014 02:38PM)
It took that long to mark up the three books because you have to continuously check your work as you go, its all too easy to make a mistake.
In fact there are a few mistakes in the manual.
Message: Posted by: vianns (Sep 2, 2014 03:45PM)
Okay !
Message: Posted by: DocBenWiz (Sep 3, 2014 12:43AM)
I took awhile to mark up and add enhancements, also. For example, I added what appear to be casual, clinical and non-clinical (personal) notes in random parts of the rear notation areas which included such things as addresses and phone numbers of a local druggist/pharmacy shop, phone numbers for the ficket office of a loca theater and a restaraunt, etc...all of which I found through a google search of the actual phone book directories for that area of London and the Colney Hatch neighborhood during the early 1930's...!
Message: Posted by: Michael_MacDonald (Sep 3, 2014 11:54AM)
Its good to see this this prop set is still alive. I have used it for years now and get much use out of it.
the most important thing to do though is to get some pictures of patients, nurses, and the location. print them mount them and age them. you can go as far as to get some copies of news papers about the location and have them printed up in news paper formate. I get the best performance not from whats in the boo0k, but from what the sitter sees in their mind well after I have done my hits in the book. guided visualization is awesome with this set.
Message: Posted by: george1953 (Sep 3, 2014 02:10PM)
Michael, I couldn't agree more. While we are talking about photos, I have a large collection, anyone who wants them just PM me your email.
Message: Posted by: DocBenWiz (Sep 3, 2014 10:40PM)
[quote]On Sep 3, 2014, Michael_MacDonald wrote:
Its good to see this this prop set is still alive. I have used it for years now and get much use out of it.
the most important thing to do though is to get some pictures of patients, nurses, and the location. print them mount them and age them. you can go as far as to get some copies of news papers about the location and have them printed up in news paper formate. I get the best performance not from whats in the boo0k, but from what the sitter sees in their mind well after I have done my hits in the book. guided visualization is awesome with this set. [/quote]

Agreed,...I have a large number of aged photos, etc and even several medical objects of the early 30's, such as medicine bottles, a lobotomy knife or two, a vintage syringe holder , etc to use as "psychometry" type connections to the patients along with the registry revelations.
Message: Posted by: Dr. Solar (Dec 19, 2015 01:44AM)
I did not see a link for the video.
Message: Posted by: Paul Forster (May 26, 2016 10:04AM)
Hi all, I have a new website dedicated to my séance based around Colney Hatch. Please check it out at www.paulforster.co.uk.

Thanks,
Paul.