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Topic: Routining your shows
Message: Posted by: Theodore Lawton (Apr 2, 2008 08:10PM)
I'm new to magic and was wondering how many of my brothers and sisters in Christ organize their shows.

Are all of your tricks Gospel oriented?

Are some tricks merely for entertainment value and some for the sharing of the Gospel?

Do you like to include tricks that share biblical principles that aren't necessarily Gospel nased?

I've done some street evangelism that may start with an attention getter like a Brainwave deck and then shifted into one or two tricks that let me share the Gospel, biblical truth and lets me leave them with a tract.

I guess I'm curious about different views on balance.

Thanks

Preston-
Message: Posted by: Theodore Lawton (Apr 3, 2008 06:15PM)
*crickets chirping*

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huh! what? wahzat?! ...zzzzzzz
Message: Posted by: Terry Owens (Apr 3, 2008 06:31PM)
In order to figure out how to routine your program, you need to know what you are after as an end result first. Are you wanting to just entertain in churches? Are you wanting to do an evangelistic type program? Family outreach? Kid's shows...These all speak to different ways you might routine your show.

My program for children is completely different in style and performance than my family shows.

So go kick a cricket and figure out where you feel you should go with your program. Pray, pray, pray...if you're wanting to do Gospel work, it must be backed by prayer. Otherwise, you're just another performer.
Message: Posted by: Theodore Lawton (Apr 3, 2008 06:47PM)
I agree with all that you've said, I was just hoping for some very basic examples of what others do so I can apply those insights to whatever I may do in the future.

Like answers to the first three questions in my post and how you might vary it for different audiences, just to give me some basic examples to work with.

Some things I'd like to do are: more street evangelism, evangelistic outreach at churches, kid shows.

Thanks again!
Message: Posted by: Dan Bernier (Apr 3, 2008 07:11PM)
Hi Preston,

as far as using Gospel magic to street evangelize or even just street evangelizing, you should be part of a team, and never try to approach it alone. You should also have a good idea of how to witness on the streets, what to be prepared for, and a good understanding of the presentation of the four spiritual laws. Believe me, it's not as easy at it may seem. When you are on the streets it's a whole different world.
Message: Posted by: gaddy (Apr 3, 2008 07:57PM)
That's true- it's really the "Bowels of Babalyon" out there. :devilish: Muahahaha!
Message: Posted by: Heres Tony (Apr 3, 2008 10:12PM)
Duane Laflin has a great formula for how to structure a gospel magic program in his DVD series "Art of Gospel Magic". I recommend it.

Tony Brent
Message: Posted by: KurtK (Apr 3, 2008 11:06PM)
Ive sen gospel magicians perform a few effects to warm up with then go on to the main gospel presentation. I think either way works.
Message: Posted by: Ken Northridge (Apr 4, 2008 06:57AM)
Preston,

I HIGHLY recommend Duane Laflin’s books on Gospel magic, as well. That would be a very wise investment. The fact is there are different points of view on the questions you asked. I can only tell you what works for me.

I have a 45-minute Gospel show in which I begin with 5-minutes of fast paced-visual magic to music. Then a fun trick to illustrate that I do illusions, not magic. (very important.)

Then I get into the gospel part by doing tricks that illustrate the Gospel message. Most of the time I am using the trick to demonstrate what I am saying however, on important parts of the message, I will step away from the apparatus and speak from the heart.

About half of my show is “just for fun” tricks (no message) I insert my favorite fun routines here. I don’t want my “show” to sound like a sermon. (I’m not a preacher).

The message of my show is strong and lends itself toward an alter call. But I let the Pastor, or whoever is in charge handle that if they feel led to.

This is what works for me based on my personality and my strengths and weaknesses. I hope it helps and I hope you get some of Daune Laflins material. Or better yet, get to see him lecture.

I hope this helps.
Message: Posted by: Terry Owens (Apr 4, 2008 06:57AM)
For shows...you don't have to do all Gospel, and I would actually recomend that you don't do one effect after another all Gospel unless they are connected to an overall theme. You can make it a blend, or you can do a show and end with a Gospel presentation in the end. That's what I do for my Upward Award programs.
Message: Posted by: Joe Marotta (Apr 4, 2008 08:53AM)
Preston,

It's great to hear you have a heart for using your magic skills for the spreading of the gospel. If you are looking for ways to witness on the street, it's much easier if you don't do it solo but have one person or a team assist you. Pray together and encourage each other.

For ways to effectively witness on the street, check out http://www.wayofthemaster.com and watch Hell's Best Kept Secret. It's a streaming video. You will get a GREAT teaching on how to be effective in one to one evangelism. Then check out their on line store and look for their Coins. There is a simple trick demonstrated there that shows you how to use a coin to start a conversation. Personally, I don't recommend using The 4 Spiritual Laws because ... well frankly, I don't find that it follows the biblical example on how to accurately present the gospel message. If you watch Hell's Best Kept Secret, you will understand what I'm saying.

Second, I recommend you go to http://www.adventuresinchristianity.com and click on VIDEOs. You will see Joey (not me) demonstrate a few magic tricks to use on the street to break the ice with a stranger and evangelism. Lots of good ideas and suggestions for people desiring to obey Jesus' command for us to 'go into all the world and make disciples'.

Check it out and let me know what you think.

(No offense was meant to anyone who uses the 4 spiritual laws tract. I used to hand out many of those myself. I just don't use them anymore for the reasons mentioned above.)
Message: Posted by: Theodore Lawton (Apr 4, 2008 09:54AM)
Thanks for all the great comments. I actually own the Way of the Master Basic Training series and like to use the million dollar tracts in the bill roll trick. It's a really simple trick, but gets good reactions for the most part, it's quick and they get to keep the prop. I also put the bills into the shape of a cross instead of corner to corner and use a Gospel patter. Works well.

Thanks for the "going out in twos" reminder. I've gone out by myself on days off and gotten good reactions, as well as not so good, after all, it is the Gospel. Going out with a small team or even one other person would be better.

Thanks to Terry and Ken and the rest who gave specific show ideas too. And the Duane Laflin suggestions. I now have some good advice from my brothers in Christ and victory comes through many counselors.

I'm hooked. I love the art that goes into a good magic presentation. Time will tell if it is an actual calling from the Lord, and in the meantime people will hear the Message.

Be blessed!
Message: Posted by: Dan Bernier (Apr 4, 2008 11:39AM)
Hi Joe,
Law One: God loves you and offers a wonderful plan for your life.
"For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life" (John 3:16).

Law Two: All of us are sinful and separated from God. Therefore we cannot know and experience God’s love and plan for our life.
The Bible says the result of sin in our lives is death–spiritual separation from God (Romans 6:23). Although we may try to reach God through our own effort, we inevitably fail. We just can’t ever be good enough.

Law Three: Jesus Christ is God’s only provision for our sin. Through Him we can know and experience God’s love and plan for our life.
"I am the way, the truth and the life," Jesus said. "No one can come to the Father except through me" (John 14:6). He also said, "I am the resurrection and the life. Those who believe in me, even though they die like everyone else, will live again. They are given eternal life for believing in me and will never perish" (John 11:25-26).

Law Four: We must individually accept Jesus Christ as Saviour and Lord; then we can know and experience God’s love and plan for our life.
We accept Jesus by faith. The Bible says, "God saved you by his special favour when you believed. And you can’t take credit for this; it is a gift from God. Salvation is not a reward for the good things we have done, so none of us can boast about it" (Ephesians 2:8,9).
Accepting Jesus means first believing that Jesus is who He claimed to be, then inviting Him to take the control of our lives and make us into new people (John 3:1-8).

Just wondering, what's not Biblical about these? I believe it's vital to understand what the four spiritual laws are if you are going to reach people for Christ. I tried John, the Baptist's way, "Repent, for the kingdom of God is near!" which is a biblical example of street witnessing as far as I'm concerned, and perhaps the only example of it in the Bible. But I found it to be intrusive for the modern day.

I have seen "Hells Best Kept Secret" and it's very good. However, you'll find that a special permit is needed for that type of evangelizing, at least in most cities here in Canada, although I have seen some street preachers ignoring the law on occasions.

Have you used this approach on the street yourself Joe? What do you tell them when they want to except Jesus into their life? When I said you must have a good understanding of the presentation of the four spiritual laws, it was because we need to know what to do when we come across someone who wants to receive Jesus into their life.

I strongly believe that the four spiritual laws are very Biblical. How they are presented is up to the person.

EDIT: Just finished reading your post again Joe, and no offense taken by me. I also just realized that you're talking about tracts. I'm sorry, I wasn't talking about handing out tracts in regards to the four spiritual laws.
Message: Posted by: marD (Apr 4, 2008 02:59PM)
I think that Joe, like myself, has nothing wrong with those "spiritual laws" per se, but we are not in a Christian culture contrary to popular belief. Those four points are wonderful insights into God's character, but there's something missing. What do those laws mean to someone that's not a Christian?

Unless a non-Christian understands why they need Jesus, they won't understand what salvation is. For them to understand why they need Jesus, they have to not only hear about sin, but to understand what sin is. Paul says in Romans 7:7 that he wouldn't have known sin except by the Law. The primary purpose of Jesus' substitutionary death on the cross was to reconcile us to God and provide a way for us to escape the judgment of hell. By showing people the Law (Ten Commandments) you bypass their intellect and sucker punch their conscience. You show them what sin is and how horrible it is in the sight of God. When they understand that and what is required of them by the holy, righteous and just God that they sinned against, then the gospel makes sense and they understand why they need Jesus.

I hope that I didn't offend with what I just wrote, but I've witnessed to people a few different ways, but I've never seen anything have the effect on people like telling them about the Law...

Joe - I didn't mean to speak for you so if I'm wrong, please correct me! :)

Mike
Message: Posted by: GlenD (Apr 4, 2008 03:32PM)
Sounds like you put it to written words very well. I know exactly what you're trying to convey and the Hell's Best Kept Secret message of Ray Comfort.
It's all good information and insight and hopfully we have helped Preston a little as well.

Glen
Message: Posted by: Dan Bernier (Apr 4, 2008 03:52PM)
That's great and dandy, but what I'm talking about is what you do after someone is wanting to except Jesus as their Lord and Saviour. I don't open up with the Four Spiritual Laws. When someone has been moved by God's spirit and wants to go further with it, then the christian needs to undertsand the four spiritual laws if they are going to minister to them. If you really think about it, Ray Comfort uses the four spiritual laws as well, but he presents them differently.

I have several years of experience of witnessing on the streets, but don't claim to be an expert, only well experienced. I don't bring a camera crew with me, but if I did I bet I would generate a lot of attention too. As much as I like Ray Comfort's approach it's not everyone's cup of tea. Not only that, you have to get a special permit to do what he did in the video. You just can't set up mike and start preaching, at least not here legally in most cities in Canada.

I completely understand what you are saying, but you should understand what I'm saying as well. I'm not talking about handing out tracts, I'm not talking about preaching about the Four Spiritual Laws, I'm talking about understanding what they are, why we need to be saved, how to be saved, who saves us, and the results of being saved.

However, with all that said, we are talking about street witnessing using Gospel magic, and so I believe that the approach that Ray uses in Hells Best kept Secret would not need the use of magic tricks to witness to people on the street. What I'm talking about is strolling not setting up camp in a park somewhere.
Message: Posted by: Dan Bernier (Apr 4, 2008 04:10PM)
I would like to add that I fully agree of what is said in Hells Best Kept Secret. It is absolutely correct in my opinion.
Message: Posted by: GlenD (Apr 4, 2008 04:45PM)
Tracts are just tools and anyone is free to pick and choose whichever ones they feel will help them reach folks. But they also can allow people to refrain from making relationships by going to public places and laying them around. But hey, that can still be effective in reaching someone too I suppose. There are no cookie cutter approaches, God uses people in different ways to reach the ones that they are able to connect with when we allow Him to use and work through us. Please don't misunderstand me, the message does'nt change but the methods and ways we interact with others certainly can and do.

The whole Ray topic has been a tangent. Although I think Ray makes some very important points in his message. It's not about him having a camera, a crew or whatever. It's about the rationale, the point to make about the necessity of a savior in the first place. This is the biggest stumbling block a lot of Christians encounter when trying to reach their unsaved friends, coworkers etc. They have what they need and most of what they want and feel as if they are good people.

What Preston asked is help in routining shows for church performances, if I read his initial post accurately.

I think the most important question when considering or performing gospel magic is the question of motivation and what you want to accomplish through your performances. Gee, did I do a good job? Were all my effects done well and without mistakes? Did I get applause and good audience reaction? All of these things should matter if we are going to peroform in this art but they are not the end all in evaluating the success of our performances. Did anyone hear the message? Did anyone respond? Is the Kingdom of God being advanced? Chances are without any follow-up we may not ever really know. Is performing in church settings to congregations effective in reaching lost souls? This is a good question, in my opinion. It depends on how active the follks are in inviting their friends and acquaintances. But even if there are only a scant few unsaved people in the building it is still worth it to present our message strongly and clearly and hopefully have a lot of fun along the way.

This is where street performing and outreach using gospel magic may be more effective in actually reaching people outside the church. I believe there is a lot to learn from those who are out there actually doing that as Dan seems to be. This is all kind of far removed from what Preston was asking but Terry had some good points and good questions for him to consider.

Glen
Message: Posted by: GlenD (Apr 4, 2008 04:48PM)
Dan, I didn't see your last post until after I put my previous one up. Just kind of took me awhile to put in words what I was thinking. This whole forum texting stuff can easily lead to misunderstandings in communication.
Take care.

Glen
Message: Posted by: Theodore Lawton (Apr 4, 2008 09:58PM)
Thank you Glen, for the additional things to think about. And for getting the post back on track.

I'm new around here and I greatly appreciate all the encouragement, insight and tips that everyone has to share. But I would ask that, for the sake of Christ, if you have a dispute with someone, consider pming them. I think debate is great and has its place, but we are representing Jesus. Other people may be looking into this part of the forum to see what those Christians are up to. I'd hate to think they look and say, "Oh, they're bickering over their own religion. Can't even agree on that."

We want to show them that we are different and have something to offer that the world doesn't have, because we do. We can agree to disagree about a great many things, but because we are all family, by adoption, we can keep our family debates private and do our best to present the Good News. We all come from different church backgrounds, denominations, etc, but we all agree that Christ died on the cross for our sins, rose again on the third day and did it for us, so we could be forgiven.

I know that, in love, any disputes were settled because we are all brothers and, in that same spirit of love, that in itself shines light to the world. People seeing that we can come to an agreement. I just felt unsettled in my spirit over any initial disputes and wanted to mention these things because we have so great a cloud of witnesses.

My intention here is not to offend, nor to try and manipulate how others post. If you want to debate in public you of course have that freedom to do so. My only concern is for others who may be considering what Christ has to offer that may see us behaving in a way that is not necessary for the spreading of the Gospel.

If I have offended anyone, or any of you would like to chew me out for being...whatever...please do so via private message.

Be blessed! And again, thanks for all of your help!
Message: Posted by: gaddy (Apr 5, 2008 06:48AM)
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On 2008-04-04 22:58, Preston68 wrote:
...Be blessed! And again, thanks for all of your help!
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And blessed be, yourself!

Good Luck!
G
Message: Posted by: Joe Marotta (Apr 11, 2008 08:55PM)
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On 2008-04-04 22:58, Preston68 wrote:
… I think debate is great and has its place, but we are representing Jesus. Other people may be looking into this part of the forum to see what those Christians are up to. I'd hate to think they look and say, "Oh, they're bickering over their own religion. Can't even agree on that…."
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Oh Shut Up Preston! :rotf:
(The above sentence was said tongue in cheek!)


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On 2008-04-04 12:39, Gospel Dan wrote:
Hi Joe,
Law One: God loves you and offers a wonderful plan for your life.
Law Two: All of us are sinful and separated from God. Therefore we cannot know and experience God’s love and plan for our life.
Law Three: Jesus Christ is God’s only provision for our sin. Through Him we can know and experience God’s love and plan for our life.
Law Four: We must individually accept Jesus Christ as Saviour and Lord; then we can know and experience God’s love and plan for our life.

Just wondering, what's not Biblical about these? I believe it's vital to understand what the four spiritual laws are if you are going to reach people for Christ. I tried John, the Baptist's way, "Repent, for the kingdom of God is near!" which is a biblical example of street witnessing as far as I'm concerned, and perhaps the only example of it in the Bible. But I found it to be intrusive for the modern day.

Have you used this approach on the street yourself Joe? What do you tell them when they want to except Jesus into their life? When I said you must have a good understanding of the presentation of the four spiritual laws, it was because we need to know what to do when we come across someone who wants to receive Jesus into their life.

I strongly believe that the four spiritual laws are very Biblical. How they are presented is up to the person.

EDIT: Just finished reading your post again Joe, and no offense taken by me. I also just realized that you're talking about tracts. I'm sorry, I wasn't talking about handing out tracts in regards to the four spiritual laws.
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Hi Brother Dan,
First, please check and see if Preston is still on talking terms with me. I made a sarcastic joke and I’m not sure if he took it as an insult, or in the playful friendly manner I meant it.

Okay, second. I appreciate your questions and I’m glad you were not offended. Neither was I so all is good. Thanks for clearing the air. (Sorry, that was me. Would someone open a window please? Thank you very much.)

I’ve seen too many people approach a stranger by saying ‘God has a wonderful plan for your life’ as if their interest will be piqued and they will hang on every word that follows. I don’t think that’s a biblical approach to witnessing to someone. That method doesn’t follow the examples set forth in the bible by Jesus, Paul, Peter and others.

If you were asked to speak to 3000 people in NY city on September 10th, 2001, knowing that in 24 hours all these people would die a horrible death, would you tell them ‘God has a wonderful plan for your life”? No. I think you would deliver a completely different message. By telling them about a wonderful plan for their lives, you would be doing them a great disservice.

If you were witnessing Iran, in North Korea, or in China, would you tell people ‘God has a wonderful plan’ for their lives, fully knowing that if the government discovered they were Christians, they would be beaten, put into prison, tortured, and possibly killed as a ‘political criminal’? It happens today, 2008.

I content that we need to follow the example set down in the bible. We need to open the law and let people see themselves the way God sees them. Psalm 19:7 tells us that God’s law is perfect and actually converts the soul. So let’s use this key to open someone’s heart. It is the God-given key to unlock the door of salvation and is the key to reaching the lost. This ‘key’ was used throughout church history but was lost around the turn of the 20th century. Jesus used it, so did Paul (Rom3:19, 20), and James (James 2:10), and Stephen used it (Acts 7:53). In Acts 28:23 Paul sought to persuade his hearers “concerning Jesus, both out of the law of Moses, and out of the prophets.”

People need to understand their current standing before God. They need to understand the ‘bad news’ first, before the ‘good news’ will make any sense. The law was designed primarily as an evangelistic tool. Paul wrote that he ‘had not known sin, but by the law’ (Romans 7:7). The law reveals to us that we are liars, thieves, adulterers, murderers, blasphemers, etc. If we open up the divine law, the 10 commandments, and show them precisely what they’ve done wrong- that they have offended God by violating His law- then when they become ‘convinced of the law as a transgressor’ (James 2:9), the good news of the fine being paid by Jesus’ sacrifice will not be foolishness. It will not be offensive. It will be ‘the power of God unto salvation” (Romans 1:16).

The good news is that God doesn’t want to send us to hell, which we deserve as our punishment. Instead, He came down to this planet, taking on the form of a man, Jesus the Christ, to live a perfect sinless life and become the payment for our debt that we owe to God, and could never pay. We broke the law and Jesus paid our fine. It’s as simple as that. Giving the bad news first, actually enables the good news to make sense. This was the method used by Martin Luther, Charles Spurgeon, John Wesley, George Whitefield, Jonathan Edwards and many others.

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…what you do after someone is wanting to except Jesus as their Lord and Saviour.
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I share what the bible states, that we need to do two things; Repent and Rrust. We have to Repent of our sins against a holy God, (confess our sins, agree with Him that we have offended Him, apologize to Him and turn away from our sins (stop doing them); and then Trust in Jesus’ sacrifice for our salvation (we put on the Lord Jesus, we cling to Him, trusting Him to save us).

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As much as I like Ray Comfort's approach it's not everyone's cup of tea. Not only that, you have to get a special permit to do what he did in the video. You just can't set up mike and start preaching, at least not here legally in most cities in Canada.
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I agree with you that open air preaching is not for everyone. Here in LA, you need a permit to do that as well. Very inexpensive and simple to get. But I don’t open air preach and I’m not saying that’s how everyone needs to witness to the lost.

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I'm not talking about handing out tracts, I'm not talking about preaching about the Four Spiritual Laws, I'm talking about understanding what they are, why we need to be saved, how to be saved, who saves us, and the results of being saved.
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I understand what the FSL are. But I think it’s more biblically accurate to say to people, (1) you have broken God’s laws and He will find you guilty on your day of judgment, and (2) Jesus paid your fine so when you appear before God’s throne for judgment, he will dismiss your case IF you Repent and then Trust in Christ’s work on the cross for your salvation. Then read the Bible and obey what you read.

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However, with all that said, we are talking about street witnessing using Gospel magic, and so I believe that the approach that Ray uses in Hells Best kept Secret would not need the use of magic tricks to witness to people on the street. What I'm talking about is strolling not setting up camp in a park somewhere.
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I completely agree with you that you don’t need to use magic tricks to witness to people on the street. But if you want to get someone’s attention and break the ice with them in order to start a conversation about God, magic is a very effective tool. Strolling around and getting someone’s attention with a trick is 100 times better than walking up to them and saying, “God loves you”. And I know you personally don't do that when witnessing. So I say let’s just take our magic and use it to attract people’s attention so we can turn the conversation over to spiritual things and witness to them.

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I'm sorry, I wasn't talking about handing out tracts in regards to the four spiritual laws.
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OH! Sorry. In THAT case… please disregard my long responses above.


(catching my breath)……. My apologies to all for such a long post. I now return you to your regularly scheduled topic.
Message: Posted by: Dan Bernier (Apr 11, 2008 09:20PM)
I'll have to respond later Joe, cause I'm still laughing so hard I can't see threw my watered eyes. (lolOLOLOLlol) Thanks for brightnening my day! (:
Message: Posted by: Theodore Lawton (Apr 11, 2008 09:50PM)
I agree with the Way of the Master's approach to evangelism Joe.

If you told all those people you mentioned that God had a wonderful plan for their life, you would still be correct, because beatings and persecution and death may be part of that wonderful plan. The final chapter of the plan is eternal salvation,(if they accept Christ's forgiveness and Lordship) so it is wonderful, but the short term suffering is pretty miserable to have to endure.

I agree that we need to be less "seeker friendly" and just present the Gospel. Show people that they are sinners (the bad news) and tell them the Good News about Christ.

Now, I have to go get my bwanky and cwy myself to sweep. You're mean! :bawl:

:bigsmile: Oh, man I even crack myself up! :rotf:
Message: Posted by: Dan Bernier (Apr 12, 2008 12:28AM)
Okay, I'm back!

Somewhere in another thread I talked about how our street outreach team approaches street witnessing. We neither use the FSL or WOTM methods. Most of the people that we come across are homeless or poor. We make friends and earn their trust. Sometimes we bring lunches or order pizzas, show some magic tricks, play some music, listen to what they have to say, give advice if they are looking for it, and share what Jesus Christ is doing in our lifes by setting an example. But most of all we show them compassion and love. We have had several people who have sincerely excepted Jesus Christ as their Saviour, and it shows in their changed behaviours and outlook on life. Some are still struggling with addictions, but we are their to support them and give them encouragement. We have a very good follow up in place for those who want to change their lives and don't just leave them without any direction.

I agree with you Joe. It would be very hard to preach the FSL to someone who doesn't believe in God as much as it would be hard to tell them that they have broken God's law when they don't believe in God. I have found that when ministering to someone who doesn't believe in God, it's very hard to convince them that they are a sinner. The best we can do is allow God to shine through us. Our actions speak so much more louder than our words. Eventually God speaks to their hearts and their conscious starts speaking to them as well. We let God be God, and do what only God can do. We can only be their for them to show them the way. I have had several homeless people tell me that they used to believe in God, and that someone told them that if they believed in God, God would take their addictions away and get them off the streets. They stopped believing in God because God never took their addictions away or took them off the street. We have had to tell them that addiction is the result of their choices which in God's eyes is sin. It is up to them to give up the things that they are addicted to, but God will forgive them and help them if they trust and believe.

Anyways, I don't want to ramble on too much. I shouldn't have brought up the FSL cause some can easily miscontrude what I mean. In short, what I was trying to say was if someone was to come up to you and say I want what you got and you don't know what to do, then you won't be any good for that person or for God.

Thank you so much for your humour ealier. I really needed a good laugh and the timing couldn't have been any better. It has been a stressful week for me. Praise God it's over! :)

I apologize for my bad grammar and spelling but I am typing pretty fast before I go to bed and I don't have time to double check. God bless everyone!