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Topic: Walking Through A Cardboard Wall
Message: Posted by: Adam Milestone (Apr 5, 2008 12:08PM)
One of my favorite card effects to peform over the last year or so. This is a bare bones presentation of it, but I have several presentation angles which I use talking about Houdini or Copperfield walking through walls and showing the specs a smaller version.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCkWMwul5Ok

Hope you enjoy!

Adam
Message: Posted by: Magikrn (Apr 5, 2008 01:38PM)
Oh that's awesome!!!
Message: Posted by: maurermagic (Apr 5, 2008 02:02PM)
Looks great.
Message: Posted by: Logan (Apr 5, 2008 02:43PM)
Nice work!
Message: Posted by: Matt Pulsar (Apr 5, 2008 03:52PM)
Fantastic. Nicely done, can't see any work there. Your presentation is clean, Why mention other magicians and there abilities. Let them be amazed by you.
Message: Posted by: Adam Milestone (Apr 5, 2008 08:12PM)
Glad you guys liked it, thanks. I actually say "hasn't been performed before", but it sounds like has, though I don't believe I mentioned any other magi or their abilities.
Message: Posted by: APC (Apr 5, 2008 11:31PM)
Really enjoyed the video! Thanks for posting!

Adam
Message: Posted by: Matt Pulsar (Apr 6, 2008 06:04AM)
I was referring to this statement you made.
"This is a bare bones presentation of it, but I have several presentation angles which I use talking about Houdini or Copperfield walking through walls and showing the specs a smaller version. "

If you are going to mention Houdini or Copperfield you are directly downplaying yourself as a great magician. My philosophy is that when you are performing magic, you are the only magician in the world. There is no need to lead the audience into thinking about other magicians or the idea that there is a magic community. That it unless you are performing for magicians or conventions etc...

I truly was fooled by your work, I don't know this bit, and can't recreate it. So, again, well done. I would love to see it in person. I would also love to know who's it is if you don't mind sharing.
Message: Posted by: Sal Amangka (Apr 6, 2008 08:38AM)
That was a very cool effect!

Chubster
Message: Posted by: rannie (Apr 6, 2008 11:17AM)
What I appreciate the most about the video is Adam's naturalness. He did not seem like he was trying to be someone else and he was not trying to fool anyone. He was just like sharing a magical experience with a friend. Great job! Looked really good and clean.

Best from Manila!

rannie
Message: Posted by: csantill (Apr 6, 2008 11:38AM)
Very cool, Great presentation
Message: Posted by: andrelimantara (Apr 6, 2008 11:58PM)
It's great

wonderfull

Andre
Message: Posted by: Justin Style (Apr 7, 2008 11:42AM)
Thanks for sharing.
Message: Posted by: Adam Milestone (Apr 7, 2008 12:05PM)
[quote]
On 2008-04-06 07:04, StuartPalm wrote:
I was referring to this statement you made.
"This is a bare bones presentation of it, but I have several presentation angles which I use talking about Houdini or Copperfield walking through walls and showing the specs a smaller version. "

If you are going to mention Houdini or Copperfield you are directly downplaying yourself as a great magician. My philosophy is that when you are performing magic, you are the only magician in the world. There is no need to lead the audience into thinking about other magicians or the idea that there is a magic community. That it unless you are performing for magicians or conventions etc...

I truly was fooled by your work, I don't know this bit, and can't recreate it. So, again, well done. I would love to see it in person. I would also love to know who's it is if you don't mind sharing.
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Hey Stuart, I understand what you mean by keeping the focus on yourself, however if I were to come off as being the ONLY magician in the world, my specs would think of me as very narcissistic and my own belief is that it is unrealistic as people know that there are other magi in the world who do parties, work restaurants and perform shows at local malls and other performing venues. When I do use the DC or Houdini storyline it’s for people who are already familiar with one or both of them. In general the Houdini story is saved for magi and other people who know that Houdini walked through a brick wall and the it lends itself to several bits of humor which are exclusive to each story. I certainly don’t mention that there is a fraternity or the like or how I learned to do the things I do. Also, if the mention of other magician’s names lessoned me as a performer in the eyes of my audience, than it must have happened many, many moons ago when someone saw me perform and blurted out the name “Copperfield” or “Henning” which has happened countless times over the years and I would assume that other magi find this happens to them too, at least in an informal settings. I don’t feel threatened by mentioning magi such as DC because simply put, there is no comparison; Dave is king. I’m not bothered by that and my specs have let me know that they aren’t either. I think a lot of magicians who perform live for people find, like myself, that people give you extra credit for being able to do it in front of the rather than on TV.

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Message: Posted by: danielellis_5 (Apr 7, 2008 12:56PM)
Wow that was great is it your own or someone elses.

thanks for showing us that

thanks
Dan
Message: Posted by: Adam Milestone (Apr 10, 2008 02:37PM)
It's Gaeton bloom's Elevator or Escalator; I can't remember which as I belive there may be two versions, however when searched on the net only Escalator shows up.
Message: Posted by: MagicB1S (Apr 10, 2008 10:16PM)
Nice job.... I have always loved this effect....
Message: Posted by: Matt Pulsar (Apr 13, 2008 04:27AM)
Thanks, Gaeton Bloom has so many great ideas. Thanks for the thoughts as well. I hear what you are saying, I can see how bringing up classic magic, or Houdini can form a frame for what you are doing, but I still think of Copperfield as too contemporary. I would never reference him because he is doing magic now, it is better service to yourself to refer to them as on the same plane as yourself.

I'll put it this way. Generally people have never seen magic before, or at least not done well. If one while presenting it too one's audience, mentions that there are others that do these things, and that some of them do even greater things than what you are showing, you are downplaying the experience on two levels. First, the existence of more magic makes the particular magic being presented less magical, and Second, the existence of greater magic makes what is being presented less magical.

I didn't mean to imply that you should try and act like the only magician in the world, or drive in that there are not others. But while you are on, it's about you, and I have seen many take away from this fact. I have seen magicians say things such as "Watch this, it's like David Blaine but not on TV," it characterizes them as not as good. Basically I am reacting more to others than you and venting it here, so, sorry for that. But I do think there is value in considering this thought.
Message: Posted by: Adam Milestone (Apr 14, 2008 11:30PM)
No offence taken! I should have mentioned that the only people I use the DC or Houdini stories for are people whom I know are familier with the story, otherwise I ask if when they were kids, they were ever sent to their room as punishment or if they were ever grounded and I patter about wouldn't it have been nice if the could've walked through walls and found escape from their prison; in fact I've actually found myself talking to an elderly man who was in prison for a leangthy period of time and when I had finished the routine he was not in tears, but his eyes were glassy and he said "if only steel and stone were paper and smiled at me. It was I who had to hold bac the tears then. I stopped my performance and we chatted for a long time about freedom and being jailed. I take my cues from my specs when it comes to storytelling and since the DC etc. storyines were well received (the liked the fact that I was able to come up with something that was they believed was of my own invention) or so they think...hee hee!). I believe that one should tailor their stories to fit their audience and try my best to do so, however this effect had such a strong impact on one of my "regular" specs that she exclaimed "I comepletely forgot what the story behind this one was" and stated giggling. As long as my specs have had a fun and magical experience when I perform, I'm satisfied. I appreciate what you said about magi who say things such as the Blaine comment you mentioned, personally I think it's a tacky thing to say and would downplay their performance as well as saying that "magic on TV isn't "real" magic, here this is real magic". It hurts the art and both of the performers when that happens. I suppose what I'm trying to say is magic is what "you" make it, so make it good magic.

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Message: Posted by: Hansel (Apr 18, 2008 02:15AM)
Nice!