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Topic: Ricky Jay's Cups & Balls
Message: Posted by: Darth Ewok (Apr 12, 2008 08:23AM)
This was the 1st cups & balls routine I ever saw. it was the one that made me fall in love with the cups (which is STILL my favorite effect).i've seen lots of different routines since, but to me this one is special.

I found it on youtube yesterday. knowing how Ricky hates to have vids of himself on the net it probibly wont last long, so enjoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hgm4wZCACYg
Message: Posted by: fireperformer911 (Apr 12, 2008 09:54AM)
Darth

Great post cups and balls youtube lead me to Sword of Vengeance which was awesome
Message: Posted by: Mitch Schneiter (Apr 12, 2008 10:34AM)
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On 2008-04-12 10:54, fireperformer911 wrote:
Darth

Great post cups and balls youtube lead me to Sword of Vengeance which was awesome
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Ditto on the Sword video. Really great.
Message: Posted by: wcb39 (Apr 12, 2008 08:28PM)
None of his YouTube videos play for me. Am I doing something wrong? Thanks, Bill
Message: Posted by: andrelimantara (Apr 12, 2008 09:38PM)
It does looks great
Inspire me
Thanks for sharing

Andre
Message: Posted by: Mobius303 (Apr 13, 2008 11:34AM)
Update your flash player and they should play fine.
All youtube videos rely on Flash.
Mobius
Message: Posted by: fortasse (Apr 13, 2008 11:44AM)
Ricky Jay is always such an enagaging performer, no matter the trick.

Fortasse
Message: Posted by: lint (Apr 13, 2008 11:57AM)
Ricky Jay is up there for me. He is one of the main reasons I got back into magic.

-todd
Message: Posted by: trickytrav (Apr 13, 2008 12:18PM)
Lead me to his multiple card selection routine which was far better than any I've seen.
Message: Posted by: pepka (Apr 13, 2008 02:18PM)
Bill, any idea who made such a nice set of (I assume) Paul Fox combo cups? LOVE that routine.
Message: Posted by: fortasse (Apr 13, 2008 03:34PM)
By the way, where is Bill?

Fortasse
Message: Posted by: MickeyPainless (Apr 13, 2008 03:54PM)
Ricky Jay is one of my all time favorites and IMO has the best patter of all! I always enjoyed his character in the HBO series "Deadwood" as well!
Message: Posted by: Mr. Muggle (Apr 13, 2008 04:57PM)
The idea of a Paul Fox chop cup and/or combo cups has been discussed before. If I remember correct Pete Biro posted a few years ago that there wern't any marketed Paul Fox chop/combo cups made; but there was ONE single cup that Danny Dew put a magnet into. No additional information was disclosed about who may have or have had the cup.

Only those who have had the tooling would know if any custom orders have ever been done. If there was a custom combo set made, I doubt we will know anytime soon.
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Apr 13, 2008 07:56PM)
I have been at the Austin magic auction for the past few days. Just got back to town.

I'm reasonably certain that those cups have the single Paul Fox chop cup that Danny made. Interesting that he does the Bosco sequence to someone else's script.
Message: Posted by: pepka (Apr 14, 2008 12:28AM)
Who's is it Bill? I've always loved latin, it sounds like REAL magic words.
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Apr 14, 2008 12:23PM)
That part of the script is out of Hocus Pocus, Junior.
Message: Posted by: Thommy Razor (Apr 14, 2008 05:18PM)
That was a lovely routine. Thanks for posting!
Message: Posted by: djkuttdecks (Apr 14, 2008 05:55PM)
That was really really great!
-DJ
Message: Posted by: Robert Kohler (Apr 14, 2008 08:02PM)
I gotta say, pound for pound that is the most entertaining routine of them all.....
Message: Posted by: The Great Smartini (Apr 22, 2008 05:58PM)
What an inspiring routine by a magical master. I just loved the chronology of the story and how it was lightly seasoned with intelligent humour. This is truly a video to watch again and again...thanks for sharing this link with us.

jeff
Message: Posted by: qureyoon (Apr 22, 2008 10:46PM)
:thumbsup: great one, thanks for sharing
Message: Posted by: marty.sasaki (Apr 24, 2008 11:10PM)
I'm surprised that the videos remain up since they are from an HBO show that hasn't been released on tape or disk.

Great routine though, I've seen it before, but it never occured to me that he used a chop cup, his handling was very nice. Maybe I'll try to get a combo set when I get some "real" cups.
Message: Posted by: erlandish (Apr 25, 2008 04:09AM)
That whole show is important work. I wish everybody could see it in its entirety at least once.
Message: Posted by: pepka (Apr 25, 2008 05:40AM)
Bill, any information about the tin cups that are briefly displayed during that version? They look ALMOST as old as Pete.
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Apr 25, 2008 10:32AM)
I can't see them well enough to tell anything about them, but they don't sound like tin cups. Most tin cups don't ring at all. These sound more like brass cups, probably Brema or early Ireland cups -- probably around 1910 - 1940.
Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (Apr 25, 2008 11:58AM)
Pepka: You are lucky my Dr. said "No Bowling"--- Heheheh... See you this coming week.
Message: Posted by: ChristopherM (Apr 26, 2008 07:22PM)
A brilliant routine; thanks for the (surprising) link.
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Apr 29, 2008 11:19PM)
I really like the way he connects all the history of the cups into one great story.
Message: Posted by: djkuttdecks (May 5, 2008 11:02AM)
When was this done? What was the name of the show? and Where is the location? I know, lots of questions... but this seemed to just come out of no where :)
-DJ
Message: Posted by: Mobius303 (May 5, 2008 12:39PM)
Mid 90's
It was on HBO
Called Ricky Jay and his 52 assisitants and was his boradway one man show.
His 53rd assistant was David Roth.

It is not on video tape as of this time but several people who copied it from when it aired made a video AVI file of it and posted sections of it on the net at places like yourtube.
I have it from when it first aired on HBO. The card material is flawless, the cups routine as you can see is fantastic and the whole production is top notch.
Mobius
Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (May 5, 2008 03:09PM)
Pepka was KING at WMS he had the highest bowling score of anyone in the tournament and won a nice trophy.
Message: Posted by: Darth Ewok (May 5, 2008 05:15PM)
Way to go Pepka! by the way the "train" goes out in the morning. you should get it soon
Message: Posted by: pepka (May 6, 2008 12:33AM)
Thanks Darth and Pete. Having a mother who owned a bowling alley when I was a kid has it's advantages. You just wait til next year Pete, our team found a CORPORATE SPONSOR! I REALLY can't wait to show you what we have in mind.

Back to Ricky's routine, I put this on my iPod for inspiration. It's always been one of my favorite pieces of magic.

Darth, I'll be sure to send you my "Thumbs Down" review when I get Train, thanks again!
Message: Posted by: Darth Ewok (May 6, 2008 08:40AM)
Like I said, don't get your hopes up on seeing a good movie. its like 'attack of the killer tomatoes'.its so bad its funny in some places. the only reason I had it was because david Copperfield was in it.
Message: Posted by: spatlind (May 11, 2008 12:17PM)
Pepka, great idea. I think I might do the same. This is amazing and inspirational. I have just started on my cups and balls journey and I love to have examples to inspire me.

Scott
Message: Posted by: lcombs (May 15, 2008 01:35PM)
An absolutely beautiful routine. The Card Control routine is very entertaining as well.
Message: Posted by: Jeff Dial (Jun 3, 2008 12:55AM)
What I was most impressed with was the distance in time between final loads and the final revelation. That is routining!
Message: Posted by: marty.sasaki (Jun 4, 2008 01:49AM)
I also like the Sword of Vengence, yet another really simple (technically) effect that played as a miracle.
Message: Posted by: rickmagic1 (Jun 4, 2008 08:08PM)
Just goes to show you, once again, that a strong presentation from an engaging personality makes the 'trick' worth it for the spectator.

I, too, am a huge fan and love his C&B routine! I wasn't a fan of the C&B until seeing his handling; influenced me to create the one that I perform.

Rick
Message: Posted by: stoneunhinged (Jun 9, 2008 11:53AM)
I love Ricky Jay.

Now I love him more.

Funny thing, however, that here at the Café there are repeated threads of "Name the top five..." whatever, and Ricky rarely makes the lists. Why would that be?

I love Ricky Jay.
Message: Posted by: Robin Z (Jun 9, 2008 03:17PM)
Incredible, you get a history lesson along with your entertainment. Not to mention a taste of Ricky Jay's stage personality, which I find absolutely amazing.
Message: Posted by: rickmagic1 (Jun 11, 2008 03:14PM)
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On 2008-06-09 12:53, stoneunhinged wrote:
I love Ricky Jay.

Now I love him more.

Funny thing, however, that here at the Café there are repeated threads of "Name the top five..." whatever, and Ricky rarely makes the lists. Why would that be?

I love Ricky Jay.
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Probably because the folks who make those lists don't have a clue who he really is. I first saw Ricky on the Carson show in the 70's in that dark blue three piece suit with long hair wearing a viking helmet! And if I remember correctly, he was doing MacDonald's Aces pattering about the 12 tribes of Israel....

Rick
Message: Posted by: plungerman (Jun 11, 2008 08:51PM)
And it is worth mentioning that in this show "Ricky Jay and his 2 Assistants" his 53rd assistant is none other than David Roth.

I'm hopin' to make it to the Coinvention somtime This century.

Elliot
Message: Posted by: Sir Richard (Jun 17, 2008 10:31PM)
I recorded that HBO program & enjoy watching it over & over again! My favorite line he ever did in a movie was from "Mystery Men": "I'm a publicist, not a Magician!" Yeah, right! He also did a "quick version of his Cups & Balls Routine on the "X-Files." (Season 7; "The Amazing Maleeni".)
Message: Posted by: Sir Richard (Jun 17, 2008 10:32PM)
I recorded that HBO program & enjoy watching it over & over again! My favorite line he ever did in a movie was from "Mystery Men": "I'm a publicist, not a Magician!" Yeah, right! He also did a "quick version of his Cups & Balls Routine on the "X-Files." (Season 7; "The Amazing Maleeni".)
Message: Posted by: Darth Ewok (Jun 18, 2008 06:50AM)
I would kill for a copy of his hbo special. I had it on tape once but I len t it to a friend and his vcr ate it