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Topic: Sleep and it's contributions to learning...
Message: Posted by: clarissa35f (May 12, 2008 11:59PM)
I recently received this from a friend, as I discussed how sometimes even though I had not practiced a certain sleight in a while, after I tried it again, I found it easier to perform.


It seems that sleep research shows that even after we stop thinking about a subject ( example: magic) our mind continues working on it, even as we focus on other things. And this applies to not just intellectual subjects but to practiced Motor skills ( ie. Sleights and routining). So you may practice a certain sleight for 30 minutes or so... and take a break, even if all you are doing is reading a book, or watching TV, or even sitting and reading these forums, your mind is still concentrating on the sleights you have been practicing.

During the night as you sleep, your mind is similarly thinking about what you have been practicing. So yes... practice and take frequent breaks in the day... and get a good night's sleep. that IS good advice... to learning magic as with other subjects... but at least now we know more about why :)

Also, during our sleep,
Message: Posted by: mrunge (May 13, 2008 12:05AM)
It's also a good idea to keep a small notebook and pen by the bed in case you wake up in the middle of the night with an idea, you can write it down and not forget it.

Mark. :napping:
Message: Posted by: thumbslinger (May 13, 2008 06:26AM)
And on sleeping, try this.. a body supposedly receives the most benefit when sleeping between the hours of 9 pm to 1:00 am (CST). More so than going to sleep at 10:30/11:00 and getting up at 6:30 or later.

I've tried going to sleep around 8:30/9 with our 2 year old and then I get up around 4:00 am, one time at 3:00 am, and I'm more rested, feel better and more alert throughout the day.

Kinda neat.
Message: Posted by: spatlind (May 13, 2008 07:53AM)
Interesting stuff. I really need to regulate my sleep better, I'm all over the place..
Message: Posted by: clarissa35f (May 14, 2008 12:33PM)
Hubby and I have been reading up on this, and are going to try an experiment. Starting today, we will do some of our practice sessions right before bed, and go to sleep at 9pm.

Will mean rearranging our schedule, and changing our lifestyle a bit, We as New Yorkers are big coffee drinkers. So this basically means...no more Hazelnut Coffee or cappuccinos after 6 * sigh*.

Good reason to have DVR, tape the later shows and watch them when we wake up :P

Anyway, after a few weeks we will see if there is a difference. Would be nice if others did the same and shared their experiences :)
Message: Posted by: airship (May 19, 2008 12:10PM)
[quote]It's also a good idea to keep a small notebook and pen by the bed in case you wake up in the middle of the night with an idea, you can write it down and not forget it.[/quote]

This is a great idea. As a writer, I've done this for years. But don't make the mistake I made. I bought a voice-activated recorder to record my ideas so I wouldn't have to turn on the light, put on my glasses, find the pen & pad, etc., to capture my magnificent ideas. Problem is, I left it on one night and accidentally captured a - shall we say, 'intimate session'? - with my wife. Thereafter the recorder was banned from the bedroom.
Message: Posted by: clarissa35f (May 19, 2008 12:22PM)
Lol... ummm... suggestion noted.
Message: Posted by: themagiciansapprentice (May 19, 2008 01:53PM)
Back to the thread.

I've found I actually practice better after a nap/sleep rather than straight in from work or sport. And yes trying to get to bed before 9:30 seems to work, though I can't always be that disciplined. But definately my sponge work using ice-creams has got a lot better from being less tired when I'm practising.

I've also started to nap before performances/sports matches, especially if I've been up since 5:30am teaching. (Not old, just working in a very hot desert country - 42+ degrees Celsius today.) Friends in the audience have commented about how the show has improved.
Message: Posted by: dandan_01 (May 20, 2008 02:22AM)
HMmmm... This is interesting. I did find that sometimes when I practice some new sleights, it does seem easier after a nap. It may be a good idea to schedule my practise schedule accordingly then. :D
Message: Posted by: mmreed (May 20, 2008 12:16PM)
Those of you interested in optimal sleep patterns, check out Polyphasic Sleep - DaVinci, Edison and others practiced this method.