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Topic: I Love the Inviso Torch
Message: Posted by: Rich Fredeking (Mar 26, 2003 07:10PM)
I just got the Inviso Torch. I also have the Inferno. I like the Inviso Torch much better and lately I've been using it on everything. I carry around the butane refiller in my pocket. Practically every trick I do I use the Inviso Torch somehow. LOL.
Message: Posted by: EddyRay (Mar 26, 2003 07:29PM)
I love the Inviso Torch too. I don't believe the Inferno is available for sale anymore. It was a rip off, I believe.

The Inviso Torch is great. Just a little care and maintenance every so often and it will last for years! :P
Message: Posted by: Dark illusionist (Mar 26, 2003 09:23PM)
Hey, I have it too and I love it. Unfortunately, I can't use it on stage. There's sort of a pyro ban.

But what do you mean you use it on everything? Do you mean you combine it with other tricks? Or do you burn everything down with it?

If the latter, then I suggest you get some help.

Have fun and be safe.

Message: Posted by: Jim Pace (Apr 7, 2003 11:51PM)
I love the INVISO TORCH too!
Message: Posted by: BroDavid (Apr 14, 2003 10:59AM)
I have two Phoenix's and an inviso torch, and they are a great item!

Fire from almost anything, at almost any time (safety considered....) makes them a great buy for the performing magician who can use fire.

Message: Posted by: phonic69 (Apr 15, 2003 01:59AM)
My Inviso Torch broke (no spark is produced) and is completely useless!

It's a shame, because it's a great gimmick!

Message: Posted by: BroDavid (Apr 15, 2003 07:56AM)
Is the flint used up?

When the flint gets real small, after a lot of use, it can actually fly out so the spring is against the wheel, and that won't work.

But by broken, what do you mean? Does the wheel fail to turn, or simply fail to spark? If it turns, does it turn easy or with a little friction?

I once lost the little part that holds the flint and spring in. And the wheel just spun freely, so I knew there was a problem. I just pulled out another Phoenix and did the show, and found the missing part in the bottom of my fire magic supplies case. (I keep all my fire seperate from everything else.)

Message: Posted by: David_Libertine (Apr 15, 2003 01:41PM)
A great tip seldom spoken!

I keep all my flammables in a tight, well built metal toolbox. It has several notices concerning the contents permanantly applied to the exterior concerning the danger of the contents. If anything ever does accidentally ignite I may lose all my fire and flame effects but at least it won't burn down the house.
Message: Posted by: Tony Chapparo (Apr 16, 2003 09:18PM)
On 2003-04-15 02:59, phonic69 wrote:
My inviso torch broke (no spark is produced) and is completely useless!

It's a shame, because it's a great gimmick!

Just go get yourself a cheap lighter, cannibalize it for its flint wheel, attach it to your Inviso Torch and you will be throwing flames again in no time.
Message: Posted by: Vaclav (May 15, 2003 04:34AM)
On 2003-04-15 14:41, David_Libertine wrote:[quote]
On 2003-04-15 08:56, BroDavid wrote:
(I keep all my fire separate from everything else.)
A great tip seldom spoken!

I keep all my flamables in a tight, well built metal toolbox. It has several notices concerning the contents permanantly applied tothe exterior concerning the danger of the contents. If anything ever does accidently ignite I may lose all my fire and flame effects but at least it won't burn down the house.

I sincerely hope that your box is not air tight, but has holes in it, so if it catches on fire, the blast will have some way out. Otherwise you have a little bomb on your hands.

Message: Posted by: BroDavid (May 15, 2003 12:38PM)
Good point!

But, yep, it is reasonably vented, but separate enough to keeps other things from bumping into the volatile objects contained within...

Message: Posted by: Dragona (May 15, 2003 05:08PM)
If your Inviso Torch is just missing the flint, go to your local grocery store. They should sell Ronson flints at the courtesy counter (or where they keep the cigarettes). They are cheap and come in packs of five, so you have a few good months before you have to buy more. :firedevil:
Message: Posted by: Jnana (May 15, 2003 05:29PM)
I don't have an Inviso Torch but I did watch a demo on line. It did look very impressive. My question is on the demoŚ it was used with both hands put together, is this the only way to use it or is it just being shown how it is most often used? I really don't know what it is so can it be used with one hand against a prop or used with one hand alone?

It seems to fill the hands with gas from what I saw on the demo. If this is true I should be able to place my hand or hands over a fire proof bowl and light what is inside it. Has anyone done this before? Am I on to something here or do I not understand what the Inviso Torch really is? Thanks.
Message: Posted by: IllusionJack (May 26, 2003 01:31AM)
The Invisio Torch is a device that allows you to have a large flame come from your hands. Furthermore the device can quickly be removed from sight once the fire is out, so you can, say, make a large flame, then immediately turn your hands around to show them empty.

It's a pretty cool item, unfortunately it seems I have lost mine. I don't know where I put it! If you want a cool flame from your hands this is the item to get. It has nothing to do with gas or anything. It's a lot like a normal lighter, but modified, and with a much larger flame.

--Jack :pepsi:
Message: Posted by: Jnana (May 26, 2003 04:22AM)
Jack thanks for answering back. Now that I know I won't have to deal with gas lines running to my hands to cause the flame I'm more interested than ever. Can you load it at a moment's notice or do you need to plan ahead and be ready to perform? I guess what I'm saying is that I want to at anytime or place be able to shoot the flame from my hands.
Message: Posted by: Dennis Michael (May 26, 2003 07:54AM)
I melted mine the second time I used it!
Message: Posted by: redstreak (May 26, 2003 10:48AM)
I just got my Phoenix back from being repaired (for free!). It's great, I've only used it a few times but I love it, easy to use.
Message: Posted by: BroDavid (May 26, 2003 11:27AM)
Den, talk to Jim then...

I have three, one original Invision Torch, and two Phoenixs and use them a lot, with big flames, and have never burned one up. I can see that happening if you hold it flaming too long. But I think the greatest effect comes from the surprise flash, and then you are clean before they can deal with the thought of "WOW that was real fire".

But Jim Pace stands behind his products better than anyone else I have known. SO if the device was faulty, it is worth a try.

Message: Posted by: Dragona (May 26, 2003 02:24PM)
Well I should hope that he stands behind his product. It seems that it is the Zippo of fire gimmicks. With all the regulations that you have to follow to make things like this legal, you may as well go the extra mile and make it so good that you have a life-time guarantee. :firedevil:
Message: Posted by: AlexWong (Sep 14, 2003 10:55PM)
I noticed that the plastic parts of my invisotorch are also melting. I was wondering if shifting up the noose would help... haha... but I had a problem shifting it up too.

So perhaps I did hold the thing too long.

Oh, and I lost quite a bit of hand hair due to wind direction and the flame not extingishing completely.... dangerous stuff... :hmm:
Message: Posted by: niva (Sep 27, 2003 10:59AM)
Jnana, it does involve gas going up your arm, but it is safe.

Alex, be sure to read the instructions again for extinguishing the flame. I did that too at first, but now I know just what to do.

However, my problem is this. I find it difficult to put the flint back when it has been used up. Am I doing something wrong? PM me please.

I like it a lot though. I can't wait for winter to start so I can start wearing jackets and stuff and use it. A flower production out of flames is great for girls. ;)
Message: Posted by: djvirtualreality (Oct 10, 2003 10:18AM)
I just got mine (after a month from penguin) and it's ok.....I almost started myself on fire already lol. I don't really know how I'm suppose to hide it....my arms are short and even if I stretch them far sometimes the valve won't open. Hmmmm......cool trick though. I got my flame about 2 feet. Takes a lot of butane though.
Message: Posted by: exohordon (Nov 10, 2004 05:30AM)
Can it be done with short sleeves?
Message: Posted by: Daegs (Nov 17, 2004 02:48AM)
Not without some serious angle issues.

However, you can do it in a jacket with your sleeves rolled up, no problem!
Message: Posted by: jazzman990 (Jan 4, 2005 03:07PM)
WIth my Inviso Torch, I wear a t-shirt, and over that one of those short sleeve button shirts. I leave that unbuttoned (it's the style the kids are wearing), and wear the Inviso Torch under that. Kind of like a jacket without all the inside pockets... Works great!
Message: Posted by: Daniel Santos (Jan 5, 2005 01:38PM)
I received an inviso-torch last month, and I think it is awesome! I haven't actually tried it yet, though. Before I purchase the butane I want to practice the moves and all so I know what's going on and to prevent an unprepared full-body burn ;).
Message: Posted by: BroDavid (Jan 5, 2005 08:34PM)
I had one Inviso torch that was too long when I got it, and so I cut the h**e down to length and now it is just fine.

You can pretty much customize the length to your arm length, and attachment point.

It is an excellent device, and worth a bit of time to practice it. But once you have it, and know just how far it needs to go to let the f**l flow, you will find it pretty much indespensible.

Message: Posted by: niva (Jan 6, 2005 04:37AM)
I am still having a lot of trouble to change the flint. Am I doing it the wrong way? I am removing the wheel to change the flint. Please Help me!! I just love this effect.
Message: Posted by: daz222 (Feb 2, 2005 09:40AM)
NO! if it is anything like a normal lighter then under the flint stick should be a screw thingy, undo that and take out the spring and replace the flint. cheers, daz
Message: Posted by: Jim Pace (Feb 2, 2005 10:23AM)
Hey there,
At the bottom of the striker there is a fork like thing . It is used to hold a spare flint.
It will twist to the left, and release from the spring tension. Now you can pop the strike wheel off and place a new flint inside. I found that a needle nose plier while help dropping the flint into the hole.
Message: Posted by: lil_magic (Feb 2, 2005 05:14PM)
I caught my jacket on fire the first time I used it
Message: Posted by: Eric Leclerc (Feb 6, 2005 01:53AM)
The phoenix and inviso torches are amazing. You CAN do it in short sleeves. I attached a safety pin instead of the alligator clip so it never comes loose. No angle problems like mentioned above, I have been using it forever and its always ready to go in my jacket.

It recently broke (after 2 years of constant use) and I fixed it up AND bought a new one. Defenitaly an item not to be without. I find doing it bare handed then posing with your hands and your mouth wide open after the fire is gone to be one of the best opening effects one can do for any place you need to get their attention fast.
Message: Posted by: n3cromanc3r (Feb 6, 2005 11:40AM)
Can you SAFELY go immedietly from flame to silks by any chance.. also I see the word "shooting" being used on the effects advertisements and in here.. does it shoot a quick flame or can you sustain a flame for 10 seconds or so?
Message: Posted by: Eric Leclerc (Feb 6, 2005 02:15PM)
I think 10 seconds is a lot. I don't think you need that much time to make people realize its fire. A 4 second flame and 10 second flame would give the same impact. But you COULD do it for 10 seconds, you control the size of flame and duration.

As for ir going from fire to silks it could work but would be akward to hold the silks and gimmick in one hand.. possibly a 2 handed move could word. But besides silks anything you can finger palm is awesome.
Message: Posted by: n3cromanc3r (Feb 6, 2005 05:14PM)
Well the reason I'm asking is I have a 10 second intro that I am going to use two vanishing torches. Instead I had though about this but still need about 10 seconds, so I'm trying to decide whether it would be best to go with this or the torches. The bottom line is I need about 10 seconds of flame, I need the fire and gimmiks to quickly go and I need to produce something immedietly afterwards, likely silks or streamers for another production.
Message: Posted by: Jim Pace (Feb 6, 2005 10:59PM)
10 seconds is too long. You will ruin the gimmick.10 seconds is a very long time even for stage work. I think that you will be better off with the torches.
Message: Posted by: n3cromanc3r (Feb 6, 2005 11:11PM)
That's what I was thinking. always good to ask questions rather than purchasing it and figuring it wasn't what I needed.
Message: Posted by: Mystician (Mar 16, 2005 06:20PM)
On 2005-01-05 21:34, BroDavid wrote:
I had one Inviso torch that was too long when I got it, and so I cut the h**e down to length and now it is just fine.

You can pretty much customize the length to your arm length, and attachment point.

BD, I'm curious as to how you shortened it, exactly. Could you PM me with the details? I think I would benefit from this as well, but I'd like to hear how you did yours before I tackle mine.