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Topic: Why do you collect cups, balls and wands?
Message: Posted by: JamesTong (Aug 7, 2008 06:30AM)
Being a cups and balls addict myself, I have been collecting things related to cups and balls.

So I am also wondering - Why do you collect those cups, balls and wands?

Would appreciate your views. Thanks!
Message: Posted by: professorwhut (Aug 7, 2008 08:26AM)
Good question.

I owned a cheap set of cups for over 20 years and never learned how to perform the trick. I would visit the trick from time to time but never really put in the necessary time to become proficient at it. I simply bought the cups because I assumed every magician HAD to have at least one set. A couple of years ago I decided to actually learn how to use the cups. In the process of getting better at the cups and balls, I realized how truly wonderful this trick is, and I gained an appreciation for everything associated with the trick. Now I have 12 sets of cups, and about half a dozen wands. As my skills grow, so does my appreciation for quality cups and wands.

I sometimes regret waiting so long to get serious about the cups and balls. But I guess there is a time and season for everything in life.
Message: Posted by: walid ahumada (Aug 7, 2008 10:06AM)
I don't consider my self a collector, however I own 7 sets of cups and 3 wands, the only thing that stops me from getting more is $$$(and my wife).
I belive it is just a personal pride.
Message: Posted by: John Gerard (Aug 7, 2008 11:22AM)
I have three sets of cups and each of them just oozes personality. It's hard to think of any other prop in my possession that I would pick up and admire on a regular basis.
Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (Aug 7, 2008 11:29AM)
Because I'm nuts.
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Aug 7, 2008 04:43PM)
For me, it started as a quest to have about a dozen or so really fine sets of cups. I originally wanted to collect jumbo cups. Then I realized that collecting miniature cups would be interesting.

Suddenly, I realized that by leaving out standard cups, I was omitting a lot of material.

After that, I started a serious study of the history of the cups.

Then I realized I was deluding myself, and discovered I had an illness called "graboneofeverykindofcupintheworldosis."
Message: Posted by: GeorgeG (Aug 7, 2008 05:02PM)
They look so shiny together ;)
Message: Posted by: Levity (Aug 7, 2008 05:13PM)
Variety, variety, variety! I love being able to take a different set off the shelf, whether it's the mini Paul Foxes of the standard Paul Foxes or whatever, and just rehearsing with something different when I feel like it. Same goes for balls--sometimes I want to use crocheted, sometimes monkeyfist, sometimes little baseballs which I've had made. And the same goes for the wands I'm collecting. Variety's what makes it special for me!

G :cups:
Message: Posted by: Jimeh (Aug 7, 2008 06:11PM)
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On 2008-08-07 12:29, Pete Biro wrote:
Because I'm nuts.
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LOL! Nothing wrong with being honest ;)
Message: Posted by: JamesTong (Aug 8, 2008 04:48AM)
WOW! This is really an interesting read ... getting to know the reasons behind each collection found in their respective cabinets.
Message: Posted by: pepka (Aug 8, 2008 05:20AM)
They're pretty. At one point, I had a collection of 6 sets of really nice cups. However, I only used 1. When the Sherwood cups were first released a good friend got an early set and when I held them, I fell in love. I also realized that I would actually use them. I sold all but one set to help finance them. Since becoming friends with Bill and Pete, I've got the bug again. But my goal is to only buy cups I'll actually use. It currently consists of, Silver Engraved Sherwoods, Copper Sherwoods (my favorites) Riser Standards and JES brass. I have a different wand for every set of cups, with more on the way.
Message: Posted by: magicorik (Aug 8, 2008 11:38AM)
I love cups and people who love cups.
There is something in them..... expecially if you think that each cup has been designed by someone who had in mind one of the oldest trick.
Message: Posted by: phillipsje (Aug 8, 2008 11:45AM)
I agree with Pepka, because they're pretty. I used to have a huge collection of cups and after selling almost all of them I'm not real sure why I bought so many in the first place. They are addictive and nice to look at and having all the different styles and sizes was fun for awhile but it wore off. I started to look at all the cups sitting on shelves not being used, collecting dust and thought what a waste of $300+. If they aren't being used then sell them and use the money elsewhere. I have a bunch of cups on back order and when they come I'll just sell them as well. I started out with a set of Smooth Copper Sherwoods and a RNT II Big Don and those are all I need.
Message: Posted by: Colonel Clark (Aug 8, 2008 11:55AM)
SELL them? You've got to be KIDDING!
Message: Posted by: phillipsje (Aug 8, 2008 12:45PM)
Nope. I didn't say it was easy though. :)
Message: Posted by: Richard Evans (Aug 8, 2008 03:00PM)
My collection grew out of an interest in the trick itself. I started with a very cheap set, then upgraded, then got interested in the different styles and it snowballed from there. They're attractive props, the nicest ones are hand-made by craftsmen and each style brings something different to the trick.

I also have a modest collection of wands that grew in a similar way. The level of craftsmanship in those is amazing.

I'd be interested to know if there are many female collectors: it seems to me that it is predominantly a 'man thing' - whether it's cups, wands, stamps or beer mats.
Message: Posted by: gaddy (Aug 9, 2008 05:44AM)
I've only got a small collection -5 sets of cups of various makes, a few chop cups, a few specific "One cup routines" cups, and a number of sets of balls and wands to go with them all.

My collection just sort of grew around my needs and what I could score cheaply on ebay.

There are still a few "grails" I'm questing for - a set of Gazzo/Animal (or RNT II) cups, a set of Harries Bosco cups, a set of Eric Evans woven balls... I'm sure there are others I'm just not thinking of at the moment.
Message: Posted by: JamesTong (Aug 9, 2008 06:15AM)
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On 2008-08-08 16:00, Richard Evans wrote:

I'd be interested to know if there are many female collectors: it seems to me that it is predominantly a 'man thing' - whether it's cups, wands, stamps or beer mats.
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There are. They collect shoes, hand-bags, clothing accessories, etc. and I believe their collections are huge. If someone were to craft an earing with the shape of a micro-chop cup with a bit of stones embedded... I think it would be in their collection too.
Message: Posted by: Richard Evans (Aug 9, 2008 06:48AM)
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On 2008-08-09 07:15, JamesTong wrote:
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On 2008-08-08 16:00, Richard Evans wrote:

I'd be interested to know if there are many female collectors: it seems to me that it is predominantly a 'man thing' - whether it's cups, wands, stamps or beer mats.
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There are. They collect shoes, hand-bags, clothing accessories, etc. and I believe their collections are huge. If someone were to craft an earing with the shape of a micro-chop cup with a bit of stones embedded... I think it would be in their collection too.
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:lol
Message: Posted by: M for Magic (Aug 10, 2008 12:07PM)
For variety and a deep appreciation of the fine craftsmanship put into the cups.
Message: Posted by: rannie (Aug 10, 2008 12:38PM)
Ive always loved the cups and balls. Growing up in Manila, we never had a magic shop. Now that there is access I can now have the collection I always wanted. I am a collector by nature. Now that I can afford to buy cups, I do it! I work hard so I play hard. A reward so to speak. The great thing is that I use them and every show pays for my cups. I allot a percentage of my fee to my passions. The second great thing is that its fine with my wife. I guess I'm just lucky! The funny thing about the wands is that I have made quite a number for peole like Bill Palmer and some of our Café friends but I don't even own my own wand from my shop. I would love to one day make replicas of my own wands that I sent Bill. These items are the symbol of magic as far as I am concerned. By having them around me...it reminds me and my visitors how much I love magic.

Mabuhay from Manila,

Rannie
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Aug 10, 2008 09:17PM)
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On 2008-08-07 07:30, JamesTong wrote:

Why do you collect those cups, balls and wands?

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Because my wife wouldn't let me collect stuffed moose heads. ;)
Message: Posted by: JamesTong (Aug 11, 2008 05:31AM)
LOL, Bill, you made my day