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Topic: Bungee cord question
Message: Posted by: sethb (Aug 25, 2008 06:56AM)
I had planned to hang a new 2' by 8' banner with bungee cords instead of rope, because I figured that might take some of the strain off the banner.

But in the hardware store, I discovered something called "bungee toggles," which are supposedly made specifically for hanging a grommeted banner. This is a 12" loop of elastic that has both ends sealed in a 1" plastic ball. It looks like the idea is to pass the loop end through the grommet, then pull it until the ball is tight against the banner. Then you loop the loop around the pole, back through the grommet, and over the ball.

But this doesn't look like a very secure arrangement to me. Has anyone used these things, and can you either confirm that this is correct, or suggest a better way to do it? SETH
Message: Posted by: DonDriver (Aug 25, 2008 07:19AM)
Seth,
I call them bungee ball loops.If they are long enough they work fine,( bring the ball in from the back side of the banner)but any bungee cord will work better than rope as bungee will "stretch" the banner and make it look good.

If you used rope the banner will sag.

Later,Don
Message: Posted by: sethb (Aug 25, 2008 09:21AM)
Thanks Don, for the push in the right direction, I much appreciate it.

Turns out that getting the pitch down, getting a tax ID, learning a good DL and getting some decent inventory is actually the easy part -- there is so much else to learn! SETH
Message: Posted by: Josh Peters (Aug 25, 2008 11:54AM)
Those are the exact bungie cords that I use and they work great. Also, quick to set up and take down.

Josh
Message: Posted by: sethb (Aug 25, 2008 01:06PM)
The thing that seems good about them is that they don't have any hooks, which can catch on clothing, skin, banners, etc. On the other hand, the elastic looks a little thinner than a standard bungee cord, but it's only holding up a banner, not the Empire State Building. SETH
Message: Posted by: Rod Pringle (Aug 25, 2008 01:19PM)
Hello Seth:
What hardware store did you find these? Was it Lowe's or Home Depot? or a small local store in your area? Lowes and Home Depot are a few miles away from me. Also we have a store here called GANDER MOUNTAIN it has all kinds of tent accessories etc, I'll check them out . I like the idea of NO HOOKS too.

Thanks

ROD
Message: Posted by: Rod Pringle (Aug 25, 2008 01:21PM)
Hello Seth:
What hardware store did you find these? Was it Lowe's or Home Depot? or a small local store in your area? Lowes and Home Depot are a few miles away from me. Also we have a store here called GANDER MOUNTAIN it has all kinds of tent accessories etc, I'll check them out . I like the idea of NO HOOKS too.

Thanks

ROD
Message: Posted by: DonDriver (Aug 25, 2008 01:39PM)
I buy them in a pack of a dozen for $5.00 at my Wal Mart in the camping section.

Don
Message: Posted by: Josh Peters (Aug 25, 2008 02:09PM)
They're usually used to hold down tarps. I've seen them with good elastic and flimsy elastic. The flimsy ones were smaller, probably 6" ones. The 12" ones are the way to go.
Message: Posted by: Rod Pringle (Aug 25, 2008 02:44PM)
Thanks Don and Josh, I am heading to Walmart to stock up!
ROD
Message: Posted by: sethb (Aug 25, 2008 07:49PM)
Rod, I picked up my bungee loops at a TrueValue hardware store. I was actually looking for regular bungee cords and stumbled upon these. Sounds like they are a pretty stock item, although I had never heard of them before. I paid $6 for a pack of 10, so Don's price has me beat!

BTW, if anyone is working on boardwalks this season, I also saw a great little gizmo there; it's sold as a way to secure stuff to outdoor decks. This is a T-shaped metal thing with a small loop at the bottom of the "T". You turn it upside down, stick it between two slats of a deck and give it a quarter turn, so that the arms of the "T" are now at right angles to the slot. Now just hook a bungee cord or rope to the loop that's sticking out of the deck, add some tension, and you're all set -- the thing acts like a miniature anchor. Although meant for decks, it seems like it would be great for securing tent legs to a boardwalk, where you can't (or aren't supposed to!) screw the legs to the boards.

Ordinarily, I just secure the rear tent legs to the boardwalk railing with bungee cords, and then use my trusty cinder blocks to hold down the front tent legs. But this gizmo would probably be a more secure and also a much simpler, faster and lighter connection. SETH
Message: Posted by: Rod Pringle (Aug 25, 2008 09:19PM)
Hello Seth:

Thanks for the info , seems they are in most hardware stores. That "T" holdown is a good idea too for a deck, wind can come up from nowhere, and do a real job on you if you aren't tied down! Thanks!!

ROD
Message: Posted by: sethb (Aug 26, 2008 07:12AM)
Yep, I've said it before, those E-Z Up tents make great parachutes!

Don stresses in his Svengali Pitch DVD that it's very important to properly secure your tent. It only takes about five minutes to set the guy lines, and it's time well spent. SETH