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Topic: Casino scam busted
Message: Posted by: artwo (Sep 19, 2008 07:59AM)
This was posted at another forum, so I thought I'd nick it and post it here.

http://www.nationalpost.com/most_popular/story.html?id=798060


Reminds me of the 21 film, but less crap.
Message: Posted by: Vandy Grift (Sep 19, 2008 11:35AM)
Wow. Thanks for the link.
Message: Posted by: maturpia (Sep 19, 2008 11:41AM)
Yes,that's really fast company!
Message: Posted by: Mr. Z (Sep 19, 2008 01:29PM)
Ah yeah the Tran case--that has been in the news for awhile.

Looks like the dealers gave everyone up--what a surprise.
Message: Posted by: splice (Sep 19, 2008 01:56PM)
Yep, thought I heard bout that one some time back. Guess the case is back in the news, I've seen it on some poker boards I read.

Strange to see so many Vietnamese names. A big drug bust locally netted a bunch of vietnamese as well. Are they that active or do they get busted because they are conspicuous?
Message: Posted by: Vandy Grift (Sep 19, 2008 02:01PM)
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On 2008-09-19 14:56, splice wrote:
Strange to see so many Vietnamese names. A big drug bust locally netted a bunch of vietnamese as well. Are they that active or do they get busted because they are conspicuous?
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I don't think vietnamese or any other asian groups are conspicious in any of the casinos I've been in. If anything, based on numbers, the round eyes are the conspicious ones. lol!

I love the asian cultures. They got the gamble in em'. lol!
Message: Posted by: splice (Sep 19, 2008 02:03PM)
Oh, I know about the gamble in them.

It's just strange that the big busts I've seen lately net a disproportionate number of vietnamese. Not just gaming, but drugs too. Wonder if it's the culture, the cops or just a big coincidence.
Message: Posted by: C-Taylor (Sep 19, 2008 04:05PM)
I think it's just about, where the money is at, and can I get away with as much as possible.Oh, and who has the biggest stones.
Message: Posted by: maturpia (Sep 20, 2008 04:45AM)
http://snipurl.com/3s2mw here also there is a large number of Asian people.
But are there some large casinos in Asia?
I really don't know how they can learn the work.
Message: Posted by: uhrenschmied (Sep 20, 2008 04:31PM)
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On 2008-09-20 05:45, maturpia wrote:

But are there some large casinos in Asia ?

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Google Macau.

Regards,
Message: Posted by: Expertmagician (Sep 21, 2008 10:54PM)
[quote]
On 2008-09-20 05:45, maturpia wrote:
http://snipurl.com/3s2mw here also there is a large number of Asian people.
But are there some large casinos in Asia?
I really don't know how they can learn the work.
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They all look so friendly :)
Message: Posted by: Dynamike (Sep 26, 2008 07:44PM)
How did they get my name on there? Just kidding. :)
Message: Posted by: iamslow (Sep 28, 2008 01:27AM)
That's funny because I used to work at casino rama from day one and the same crew hit the place for about half million, before travelling across the states, then back to rama again where... As for their " work" theres nothing fancy, just straight cojones...



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Message: Posted by: iamslow (Sep 28, 2008 01:42AM)
[quote]
On 2008-09-20 05:45, maturpia wrote:
http://snipurl.com/3s2mw here also there is a large number of Asian people.
But are there some large casinos in Asia?
I really don't know how they can learn the work.
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Large casinos in Asia?? Nah, Asians don't know how to gamble... ;)


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Message: Posted by: iamslow (Sep 28, 2008 04:54AM)
This is definately from a while back...
http://www.thestar.com/News/article/217602
Message: Posted by: stoneunhinged (Sep 28, 2008 05:43AM)
Man, I just wasted 20 whole minutes trying to find a couple of links I posted on this forum about gambling in Asia, and I couldn't find them. I went back and re-read almost every post I've ever made here. I guess it's likely the post was deleted. :(

Anyway, you can just google Macau, as Uhrenschmied suggested. But those articles were pretty interesting. Statistically, the Vietnamese are the biggest gamblers in the world. The Chinese are also VERY heavy gamblers. If you go read some articles about Macau, you'll find out that the Chinese also gamble differently than westerners. Compared to Vegas gamblers they make many more bets per hour, and while the bets may be lower in real money, they represent a MUCH higher percentage of their income. They also prefer games that move very quickly: the strategy is to get more bets in, not to rely on skill. I'm pretty sure that Baccarat is the most popular game on Macau. In Hong Kong itself the ponies are by far the most popular thing to put your money on. Second comes soccer, which they don't even play themselves: they just have huge betting halls where you can bet on soccer all over the rest of the world. It's wild stuff.
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Sep 28, 2008 10:36PM)
[quote]
On 2008-09-20 05:45, maturpia wrote:
http://snipurl.com/3s2mw here also there is a large number of Asian people.
But are there some large casinos in Asia?
I really don't know how they can learn the work.
[/quote]
Evidently you are not aware of the huge Vietnamese presence in the US and Canada. After 1972, Houston absorbed a couple hundred thousand Vietnamese refugees. Many of them became very big community leaders. Many of their kids are as American as anyone. But there is an undercurrent in that community of people who want to be big shots. So they play the big shot game. And they get caught.

It's not an Asian thing. It's not a Vietnamese thing. It just happens.

But by and large these are very intelligent people. If they can read English and watch a DVD, they can learn anything anyone else can learn.

Gambling skill knows no ethno-cultural bounds.
Message: Posted by: maturpia (Sep 29, 2008 03:17AM)
Well,I live in Italy I didn't know almost anything of what you've said.
In my question there wasn't absolutely an ethnic aspect,but I think it's difficult(but probably possible) to learn how-to ski while living in an exotic island.
Message: Posted by: iamslow (Sep 29, 2008 05:57AM)
[quote]
On 2008-09-29 04:17, maturpia wrote:
Well,I live in Italy I didn't know almost anything of what you've said.
In my question there wasn't absolutely an ethnic aspect,but I think it's difficult(but probably possible) to learn how-to ski while living in an exotic island.
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hey, Jamaica had a bobsled team... :)

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Message: Posted by: acephale (Sep 29, 2008 03:47PM)
I have to back up stoneunhinged's post. I worked in the late '90s for a small company that did VoIP into mainland China and spent a lot of time in both Hong Kong and China. What amazed the hell out of me is that Chinese will bet on [i]anything[/i], it doesn't have to even be a gambling type of situation. "I'll bet you this circuit won't work", "Bet you this guy can't sing", etc. etc. etc.
Message: Posted by: silverking (Sep 29, 2008 04:09PM)
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"Bet you this guy can't sing"
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This would be a difficult bet to figure.

Most guys in fact [i]can't[/i] sing and wouldn't bother trying....but that would have to be balanced against the fact that some people who can't sing [i]don't know[/i] they can't sing, and are more than willing to embarrass themselves trying.

The questions would be:
1) What percentage of the male population can actually sing?
2) What percentage of the male population can't sing, but thinks they can sing?
3) What percentage of the male population can't sing, and knows they can't sing?
4) What effect does alcohol have on a persons formerly accurate opinion of their ability to sing have, and does alcohol add yet new categories not listed above?

I'd probably be tempted not to take the bet based on these concerns.
Message: Posted by: tommy (Sep 29, 2008 10:05PM)
Macau, China, is like Vegas.

The Chinese are the biggest gamblers in London in my opinion. I used to drive my friend “The China Man” about and I saw some private games I have never seen the like of.

Mahjong, apart from anything else is titanic.
Message: Posted by: iamslow (Sep 30, 2008 01:04AM)
If you guys want to know a crazy asian gambling game, find a high stakes "ShowHand" game and you will see the definition of sick gamblers....
Message: Posted by: h2o (Sep 30, 2008 02:25AM)
What is this game "ShowHand"? I've read it's similar to 5 card stud ?