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Topic: Card counting DVD
Message: Posted by: maturpia (Sep 24, 2008 07:41AM)
http://snipurl.com/3tbol

Does some one had the chance to view this video ?

It seems interesting,but I don't know if card counting is still possible today.
Message: Posted by: emeprod (Sep 24, 2008 11:05AM)
I don't know a thing about that video, but, I do know there are several books out there that are probably cheaper and have more valuable information concerning counting, i.e. Blackbelt in Blackjack by Arnold Snyder; Professional Blackjack by Stanford Wong; Knockout Blackjack by Vancura and Fuchs.

And yes, card counting is still effective if you can find games with good playing conditions.
Message: Posted by: maturpia (Sep 25, 2008 06:21AM)
I think that Richard Marcus surely know how to beat the game by card counting,but I don't know if he has put the real work on the video,or there are the same things you can find in the books you mentioned earlier.
Message: Posted by: h2o (Sep 25, 2008 07:07AM)
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On 2008-09-25 07:21, maturpia wrote:
I think that Richard Marcus surely know how to beat the game by card counting
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For what I know Richard Marcus never used card counting to beat the casinos.
He surely knows how to beat the game by pastposting but card counting...I don't think he ever bothered learning how to count cards during his "career" :)

Because of the movie "21" card counting is getting a new popular attention so maybe he's trying to make a few bucks.
Message: Posted by: maturpia (Sep 26, 2008 04:47AM)
Richard works also as a card counter teacher:his courses costs 8.000$. I don't think that he can get paid for nothing.

I've not seen 21,hope to see it soon.
Message: Posted by: AMcD (Sep 26, 2008 06:27AM)
IMHO 21 is not a great movie. Last casino was better. But, well, just my advice.

What's weird in all these movies is when they spot a card counter. They insult him, beat him, break his nose, he is accused of "stealing the money", thrown out windows, etc.

I've never been, so far, in a US casino. Is that really what to be expected if you are caught counting cards? Or just another hollywood myth about gambling?
Message: Posted by: kcg5 (Sep 26, 2008 12:28PM)
The book would be thrown at you, but no fists.
Message: Posted by: h2o (Sep 26, 2008 12:49PM)
They will strike you with bats and bury you in the desert :)
Message: Posted by: AMcD (Sep 26, 2008 01:20PM)
I can hardly believe that :).
Message: Posted by: iamslow (Sep 28, 2008 04:08AM)
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On 2008-09-26 07:27, AMcD wrote:
IMHO 21 is not a great movie. Last casino was better. But, well, just my advice.

I've never been, so far, in a US casino. Is that really what to be expected if you are caught counting cards? Or just another hollywood myth about gambling?
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If you are caught counting cards at the casino where I work at, the dealers along with the pit staff will start laughing hysterically..... :snail:


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Message: Posted by: AMcD (Sep 28, 2008 04:41AM)
Well, here, in Europe, you are (more or less politely) asked to leave the place. I've never heard about guys punched or left for (almost) dead like we can see in US movies. Hence my question.
Message: Posted by: iamslow (Sep 28, 2008 04:48AM)
Sorry, ill re phrase that, " they will laugh quietly" ;)
Message: Posted by: AMcD (Sep 28, 2008 04:54AM)
OK. But why to show that folklore in movies then? Are movies produced by casinos and then, it's a nice opportunities to scare young daredevils :)?
Message: Posted by: iamslow (Sep 28, 2008 04:56AM)
Because its what sells in the movies... of course, it would be a good plot for them to laugh at counters in a comedy, but that's another movie...
Message: Posted by: silverking (Sep 28, 2008 11:55AM)
Actually, getting 86'd or backed-off can be as hard, or as easy as you want it to be.

If you're getting backed-off, the smartest thing you can do is just leave without saying a word. If you get smart or start complaining you'll just make it easier for them to remember you the next time you walk in.

If you start waving your arms around and getting all physical about it, you'll be treated like any other casino patron who is perceived to be a threat to the peaceful patrons around you. I'm sure the ride out the back door for those waving their arms around might get a little rougher than if you'd just walked out when asked to.

Having said that, I'd still rather get 86'd from a big corporate casino on the Strip than Stockman's in Elko. Those boys are cowboys up north.
Message: Posted by: tommy (Sep 28, 2008 01:29PM)
Top 10 Card Counting Mistakes in "21" The Movie


http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=c8di2N1MDBc
Message: Posted by: kcg5 (Sep 28, 2008 03:04PM)
In terms of getting beat up and buried in the desert, it certainly happened (to a large degree) like it is portrayed in the movie "casino". check the book by nicholas pileggi. it names the real guys and the real casinos, lots of vegas history.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJFtGr3mnz4&feature=related

little guy on the left is pesci's character.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Z (Sep 28, 2008 04:39PM)
The mob gets all the press but in terms of strong-arming in the old days of Vegas Binion's Horseshoe takes the top spot. Hustlers stayed away from the Horseshoe out of respect for Benny but also because if you got caught cheating there they'd "beat the bark off you" as my one friend likes to say--or just outright kill you. Ted Binion and his monstrous security guards were particularly vicious and the stories are legendary.

Interestingly Benny liked thieves and would take care of some of the Gardena poker cheats when they'd come to Vegas with rooms, meals, etc... They just didn't play in the casino.
Message: Posted by: AMcD (Sep 28, 2008 05:38PM)
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On 2008-09-28 17:39, Mr. Z wrote:
They just didn't play in the casino.
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I suppose you meant in "his" casino...
Message: Posted by: Mr. Z (Sep 29, 2008 05:55AM)
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On 2008-09-28 18:38, AMcD wrote:
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On 2008-09-28 17:39, Mr. Z wrote:
They just didn't play in the casino.
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I suppose you meant in "his" casino...
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A mind like a steel trap you've got there.
Message: Posted by: Kjellstrom (Sep 30, 2008 01:50AM)
An Intro To Card Counting At Blackjack

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPvpagEZQr8
Message: Posted by: tommy (Sep 30, 2008 02:01AM)
If the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree then Benny must have been an idiot.