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Topic: Poker cheating terms
Message: Posted by: Greg Arce (Sep 28, 2008 08:27AM)
Are there standard terms for all the players in a poker casino game that's rigged? I mean if the dealer is in on it and a few players are also part of the team while there are some regular players in the game then are there terms or names given to all the positions in that particular game?

I have a friend who is considering writing a scene that will involve a casino poker game that's rigged and I wanted to help him with some terms.

Greg
Message: Posted by: kcg5 (Sep 28, 2008 03:10PM)
Ask mr. Hemingway.
Message: Posted by: JasonEngland (Oct 3, 2008 05:25AM)
Greg,

You often hear of "X pluck Y" games where the terms are used like this:

A "Five pluck one" game is one in which there are 5 players "down" and 1 target. Of course, X and Y can be any numbers, but Y is usually only 1 or 2. A targeted player sitting down in one of these games is said to be in the "hot seat."

There are not usually terms or names for each individual player in the game, except for the dealer of course. If a mechanic is in the game, then you might refer to him by that name, but you could also just have a team of paper (marked cards) players and no mechanic.

Hope this helps.

Jason
Message: Posted by: tommy (Oct 3, 2008 07:05AM)
PROFESSIONAL GAMESTERS AND THEIR FRAUDS.
A gambling house at the end of the last century was conducted by
the following officials:--
1. A Commissioner,--who was always a proprietor; who looked in
of a night, and audited the week's account with two other
proprietors.
2. A Director,--who superintended the room.
3. An Operator,--who dealt the cards at the cheating game called
Faro.
4. Two Croupiers, or crow-pees, as they were vulgarly called,
whose duty it was to watch the cards and gather or rake in the
money for the bank.
5. Two Puffs,--who had money given to them to decoy others to
play.
6. A Clerk,--who was a check on the Puffs, to see that they sank
none of the money given to them to play with.
7. A Squib,--who was a puff of a lower rank, serving at half
salary, whilst learning to deal.
8. A Flasher,--to swear how often the bank had been stripped by
lucky players.
9. A Dunner,--who went about to recover money lost at play.
10. A Waiter,--to fill out wine, snuff candles, and attend the
room.
11. An Attorney,--who was generally a Newgate solicitor.
12. A Captain,--who was to fight any gentleman who might be
peevish at losing his money.
13. An Usher,--who lighted the gentlemen up and down stairs, and
gave the word to the porter.
14. A Porter,--who was generally a soldier of the Foot Guards.
15. An Orderly-man,--who walked up and down the outside of the
door, to give notice to the porter, and alarm the house at the
approach of the constables.
16. A Runner,--who was to get intelligence of the Justices'
meetings.
17. Link Boys, Coachmen, Chairmen, Drawers, and others, who
brought the first intelligence of Justices' meetings, of
constables going out, at half a guinea reward.
18. Common Bail, Affidavit Men, Ruffians, Bravos, Assassins, &c.
&c.

It may be proper to remark that the above list of officials was
only calculated for gambling houses of an inferior order. :)

It all depends on the set up.
Message: Posted by: Alan M (Oct 3, 2008 11:33AM)
Darwin Ortiz's book Gambling Scams would be helpful for related gambling, hustling and scam terminology.
Message: Posted by: scaress (Oct 6, 2008 06:59PM)
I've been told the pro's don't use terms while in a game. there's no reason to, it could only get you caught.

also, seems to me like people make terms up as they go along. like "paint" for face cards, or "i've got work down" means you've marked the cards in play. seems silly to me. it's not like a cheat will hear you and say, "excuse me, but I beleive you've used that term incorrectly. according to my Websters Cheaters dictionary..."
Message: Posted by: tommy (Oct 6, 2008 08:04PM)
Poker players usually call them cheats.