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Topic: The "Secret" Project
Message: Posted by: Jsmith45 (Oct 1, 2008 05:24PM)
Anyone have an idea what the clue is in The [b]secret[/b] Project? http://www.jpsmagic.com/

Half a century of thought. Hymmmmm.
Message: Posted by: Michael Peterson (Oct 1, 2008 05:33PM)
I just hope it's not another self levitation!




Mike
Message: Posted by: flekka (Oct 1, 2008 06:37PM)
Looks like a small jigsaw....
Message: Posted by: jbayme (Oct 1, 2008 07:05PM)
Intriguing... I'm pretty sure that jigsaw puzzle adds up to be a picture of a Liger, dolphin, or Oprah. I'm bad at jigsaw puzzles, though.

If you wanna know more... visit [url=http://img150.imageshack.us/my.php?image=28382881xr6.jpg]www.whatisJPStheory11.com[/url] next Monday at midnight EST. Okay, I might have just made that up.

// jonathan.bayme
ceo / theory11
Message: Posted by: Joshua Barrett (Oct 1, 2008 07:13PM)
:lol: ....
Message: Posted by: Thomas Kwon (Oct 1, 2008 07:28PM)
Theory11 all over again :lol:
Message: Posted by: VcosNJ (Oct 1, 2008 07:31PM)
Can it be the true astonishments DVD's? :P Just throwing it out there..
Message: Posted by: palmtreemagic! (Oct 1, 2008 08:12PM)
[quote]
On 2008-10-01 20:31, VcosNJ wrote:
Can it be the true astonishments DVD's? :P Just throwing it out there..
[/quote]

Well we have been waiting 50 years for it...
Message: Posted by: Mercury52 (Oct 1, 2008 08:19PM)
I saw the first "puzzle piece" ad for this in the recent Magic Magazine (with McBride on the cover). No clue as to what it might be.

I guess we have about 6 months at the most to wait before we find out what it is.

Kevin
Message: Posted by: Chance Wolf (Oct 1, 2008 08:40PM)
Hmmmm....[b]Flipper[/b] the [b]movie[/b]??!!

Has it been half a century since that aired?
Message: Posted by: professorwhut (Oct 1, 2008 08:53PM)
Flipper...Flipper.
Now I feel really old.
Message: Posted by: Ben Harris (Oct 1, 2008 11:00PM)
It's got to be kept secret. Really, really secret. Imagine what the kiddies would do over at the "Sandbox of Magic Forum" otherwise!!!

Flipper? Man, I remember. Old age!!!


Ben
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Oct 1, 2008 11:18PM)
New Jaguar maybe? Early peak at the 2010 model?
Message: Posted by: Review King (Oct 1, 2008 11:34PM)
I have found, in general, when things are down this way, it's major let down in the end.

It's like "Jesus is coming...Jesus is coming...Jesus is coming..."

Then Jesus arrives. But...it's not the Messiah, it's the guy who cuts the grass.
Message: Posted by: magicduro (Oct 1, 2008 11:48PM)
This is classic!!!
[quote]
On 2008-10-02 00:34, Christopher Kavanagh wrote:
I have found, in general, when things are down this way, it's major let down in the end.

It's like "Jesus is coming...Jesus is coming...Jesus is coming..."

Then Jesus arrives. But...it's not the Messiah, it's the guy who cuts the grass.
[/quote]
Message: Posted by: mesmer (Oct 2, 2008 06:42AM)
This will solve Half a century of thought....namely....How to do 101 mentalism Effect with Milk Thumbler......Can not wait for the release......now where do I keep those Milk Thumbler?.....

I'm sure it will be A Hit in my next Gig........

.....
Message: Posted by: kannon (Oct 2, 2008 06:48AM)
Linking rings! All totally examinable.
Message: Posted by: tuffnavyrn (Oct 2, 2008 10:00AM)
Magic product marketing never ceases to amaze. Bring on the hype baby!
Message: Posted by: Joshua Barrett (Oct 2, 2008 10:01AM)
Clearly this is a ad for duke nukem forever
Message: Posted by: vinsmagic (Oct 2, 2008 10:02AM)
SSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH?
it's a seceret
Message: Posted by: Tom G (Oct 2, 2008 11:28AM)
That would put the wait from around 1958, what was the hot topic then....
Message: Posted by: Greg Arce (Oct 2, 2008 11:41AM)
[quote]
On 2008-10-02 12:28, Tom G wrote:
That would put the wait from around 1958, what was the hot topic then....
[/quote]

My birth. :rotf:

Greg
Message: Posted by: Mental_Mike (Oct 2, 2008 01:48PM)
There's already a Flipper movie out with Paul Hogan. :lol:

Mike
Message: Posted by: T,im Dawson (Oct 2, 2008 01:50PM)
ACAAN?
TJD
A self Levitation that really does look the business!

An instant self vanish?
Message: Posted by: Joshua Barrett (Oct 2, 2008 02:34PM)
I retract my Duke Nukem forever comment. It must be a new deck of black bicycle cards
Message: Posted by: Steve Brooks (Oct 2, 2008 02:48PM)
[b]palmtreemagic![/b] said; "[i]Well we have been waiting 50 years for it...[/i]"

In regards to the SECRET project - Yes we have. :bwink:
Message: Posted by: Joshua Barrett (Oct 2, 2008 02:52PM)
I think its safe to assume that SECRET is a acronym as it is always mentioned in caps

Super
Easy
Card
Room
Elastic
Thread

yay I win!
Message: Posted by: Tony Chapparo (Oct 2, 2008 02:58PM)
It's a book on how to write extremely misleading and compelling AD copy for magic effects...'er... nevermind.
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Oct 2, 2008 11:55PM)
[quote]
On 2008-10-02 00:34, Christopher Kavanagh wrote:
I have found, in general, when things are down this way, it's major let down in the end.

It's like "Jesus is coming...Jesus is coming...Jesus is coming..."

Then Jesus arrives. But...it's not the Messiah, it's the guy who cuts the grass.
[/quote]

If you asked nicely, Jesus would cut your grass :)
Message: Posted by: mikenewman (Oct 3, 2008 08:21AM)
Do we get a prize if we guess it? I heard Jay Sankey did that with his Revelation "S***T".

I guess it's something metal... ummm. A bending ... I don't know, I give up...
Message: Posted by: Bijlogg (Oct 3, 2008 09:49AM)
[quote]
On 2008-10-02 07:48, kannon wrote:
Linking rings! All totally examinable.
[/quote]

I reckon you could be right, it's the missing piece of the puzzle, or put another way the missing piece of the rings finally filled in.

Maybe....

Tom
Message: Posted by: Steve Brooks (Oct 3, 2008 09:53AM)
There are several pieces of the puzzle that are currently missing...
Message: Posted by: solareflipz (Oct 3, 2008 09:57AM)
[quote]
On 2008-10-01 20:05, jbayme wrote:
Intriguing... I'm pretty sure that jigsaw puzzle adds up to be a picture of a Liger, dolphin, or Oprah. I'm bad at jigsaw puzzles, though.

If you wanna know more... visit [url=http://img150.imageshack.us/my.php?image=28382881xr6.jpg]www.whatisJPStheory11.com[/url] next Monday at midnight EST. Okay, I might have just made that up.

// jonathan.bayme
ceo / theory11
[/quote]

Actually the original post I made was http://www.whatisJPSmagic.com but then somehow it got edited....was this YOUR doing JB?

Just kidding.
Message: Posted by: ted french (Oct 3, 2008 08:04PM)
Health coverage for magicians
Message: Posted by: Thomas Kwon (Oct 3, 2008 08:05PM)
[quote]
On 2008-10-03 21:04, ted french wrote:
Health coverage for magicians
[/quote]

one can only wish...
Message: Posted by: Al Straker (Oct 3, 2008 09:19PM)
Ummmmmmmmmmmmm..... 101 methods of how to build a guinea pig box???
Message: Posted by: Steve Brooks (Oct 3, 2008 09:33PM)
A box? Hmmmm...
Message: Posted by: Masonogy1 (Oct 3, 2008 11:00PM)
[b]Steve Brooks is Jigsaw...[/b] [i]HOLY CRAP[/i], I knew it!!! *runs away in a disorientated fashion* :D
Message: Posted by: JamieD (Oct 4, 2008 05:18AM)
The Secret is.... There is no secret.... hmmmmmm how about THAT for advertising!

FYI, I'm young and I remember flipper! he's like a world wide hero!

JamieD
Message: Posted by: Chad Sanborn (Oct 4, 2008 10:08AM)
I guess the key to solving this is to figure out what JPS stands for.

What magicians have those initials?

J= Johnathon
P= Pendragon
S= Stuff

Then again, I might be

J= Just
P= Plain
S= Stupid
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Oct 4, 2008 06:39PM)
[quote]
On 2008-10-03 22:33, Steve Brooks wrote:
A box? Hmmmm...
[/quote]

ahhhhh What's in the Box? What's in the box?
"Brad Pitt SEVEN"
Message: Posted by: Greg Arce (Oct 4, 2008 07:47PM)
[quote]
On 2008-10-04 19:39, Mad Jake wrote:
[quote]
On 2008-10-03 22:33, Steve Brooks wrote:
A box? Hmmmm...
[/quote]

ahhhhh What's in the Box? What's in the box?
"Brad Pitt SEVEN"
[/quote]

Love that line and Pitt's reading of it.
And of course, Spacey, "Become vengeance David... become wrath."

greg
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Oct 4, 2008 10:52PM)
I'm hoping it's a Britney Spears stage size (actually life size) Blonde in the Bathtub effect :)
Message: Posted by: Tom Cutts (Oct 6, 2008 04:06PM)
Could be you are finally tipping the Jigsaw Puzzle System, Mr. Brooks? Don't do it!
Message: Posted by: Joshua Barrett (Oct 6, 2008 04:10PM)
Well last time this happened the thing magicians have been search for was .... a online street magic shop. so maybe this is a online....parlour magic shop!

Just
Parlour
Stuff

!!!
Message: Posted by: pkg (Oct 7, 2008 08:33AM)
[quote]
On 2008-10-01 21:12, palmtreemagic! wrote:
[quote]
On 2008-10-01 20:31, VcosNJ wrote:
Can it be the true astonishments DVD's? :P Just throwing it out there..
[/quote]

Well we have been waiting 50 years for it...
[/quote]

fashion adviser for some performers?
Message: Posted by: Seeker (Oct 7, 2008 09:11AM)
How long has the magic Café been around?
Is it a new improved Café forum that won't allow anyone in except performers with a large pay check?
Maybe it's a way for magicians to ban togeather on an online club to take over the world! Oh! Or is it a chnac to kick the masked magians fat ***. Although... Is he 50?
Message: Posted by: pkg (Oct 7, 2008 09:21AM)
I still am leaning towards some fashion tips.
Message: Posted by: Joshua Barrett (Oct 7, 2008 12:21PM)
Iv thought about this a while. Iv determined its a self-working book on non-self working sleight of hand. there no practice required and the book works by osmosis
Message: Posted by: Chad Sanborn (Oct 7, 2008 11:17PM)
[quote]

fashion adviser for some performers?
[/quote]

LOL That is Funny! But TRUE!
Message: Posted by: Roth (Oct 8, 2008 04:38AM)
Magic Home shopping Network!
Message: Posted by: Tim Trono (Oct 8, 2008 07:08PM)
It is actually exciting. I was advised of this but am sworn to secrecy. I think people will be pleased in the end about this (not some levitation, pipe dream, etc.). Quite frankly I did not know what this was when I first saw the ad and then put two and two together. You'll be happy when it all happens.... (could I be more vague :lol: )...

Tim
Message: Posted by: Robert M (Oct 8, 2008 08:14PM)
I say it's a .... magazine. No, that couldn't be right.

Robert
Message: Posted by: acchessor (Oct 8, 2008 08:31PM)
Well, apparently we have another 6 months to wait . . . Gather back in a month anyone?

(I like watching other magicians guess in excitement).
Message: Posted by: Al Straker (Oct 8, 2008 09:39PM)
OK I got it now... the "Kamikaze Escapologists Do It Yourself Explosives Kit".

Do I get the donuts now??

Al
Message: Posted by: Steve Brooks (Oct 9, 2008 10:47AM)
Sorry [b]Al Straker[/b] - close, but no cigar. However, because you tried...

:donut1: :donut3: :donut2: :donut5: :donut6: :donut4:

:smoke:
Message: Posted by: Michael Peterson (Oct 12, 2008 06:11PM)
I figured it out!

It is a single gimmick that allows you to do a self levitation, cap in bottle,torn & restored playing card,float a dollar bill, vanish a silk & do the easiest card to wallet ever!

You do have to assemble the gimmick yourself,but it will only take you about 3 minutes to do it each time. The great thing is that you probably have everything you need to make it at home already.

All you need is-

3 slices of american cheese
A 1" piece of velcro
2 pieces of Bazooka Joe bubblegum
1 Giant novelty safety pin


I'm just waiting for the instructions.


Mike
Message: Posted by: Greg Arce (Oct 12, 2008 08:47PM)
[quote]
On 2008-10-12 19:11, Michael Peterson wrote:
All you need is-

3 slices of american cheese
A 1" piece of velcro
2 pieces of Bazooka Joe bubblegum
1 Giant novelty safety pin

Mike
[/quote]

Luckily I always keep those things in my SAW wallet... and a flattened earthworm plus two granules of paprika... the other two items are also used in a devastating mind-to-mind experiment that not only ends with a drawing dupe, but I'm able to make them vomit out a sealed prediction. I'll be making this into a packet trick soon. :rotf:

Greg
Message: Posted by: jordanjohnson (Oct 12, 2008 09:48PM)
I got it...Corey Chapin's new site!!!!!! OH YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!


Joke people joke!
Message: Posted by: Steve Brooks (Oct 13, 2008 01:49AM)
[b]Chad Sanborn[/b] said; "[i]I guess the key to solving this is to figure out what JPS stands for.

What magicians have those initials?

J= Johnathon
P= Pendragon
S= Stuff

Then again, I might be

J= Just
P= Plain
S= Stupid[/i]"

---------------

Here is [i]another[/i] [b]official[/b] CLUE:

[b]S[/b] = Steve Brooks

:smoke:
Message: Posted by: Father Photius (Oct 13, 2008 01:19PM)
Well why didn't I think of that, Duh!
Message: Posted by: Review King (Oct 13, 2008 01:19PM)
Steve, you made this into a proper fun game for everyone!
Message: Posted by: Bryan Gilles (Oct 13, 2008 01:56PM)
Hmmm... Maybe Steve is releasing "Jr. Palms of Steel"?

-Bryan
Message: Posted by: Airave (Oct 13, 2008 02:12PM)
J-esus
P-lays
S-teve Brooks!

At theaters everywhere!

.... sometime next year. Maybe.
Message: Posted by: cupsandballsmagic (Oct 13, 2008 02:25PM)
Is this some kind of collaboration with Magic and the Café? An online magic magazine?
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Oct 13, 2008 02:28PM)
It's an autographed photograph of Steve Brooks with eyes that glow in the dark! ;)
Message: Posted by: Tjernobyl (Oct 13, 2008 02:32PM)
Jeff McBride
Paul Harris
Steve Brooks
Message: Posted by: vinsmagic (Oct 13, 2008 02:33PM)
I got it... It's [url=http://www.themagicbakery.com]FREE FALL[/url] #2 Steve went to the mountain . The High Lama said to Steve "if wet birds can fly at nite then Free Fall fly up"
Message: Posted by: Tjernobyl (Oct 13, 2008 02:34PM)
Or

Jigsaw
Puzzle

by
Steve Brooks
Message: Posted by: chrusa (Oct 13, 2008 02:58PM)
This really has me flustered. I want to know now lol! I am so interested and what a great marketing campaign! I got a PM that there was a new clue and saw the same clue man I want to know!
Message: Posted by: pepka (Oct 13, 2008 03:05PM)
Hmmmm......
Jake the mad cup spinner
Pete Biro
Steve Brooks

I'm actually geeky enough to go in Wikipedia and look up what was big in 1958. Those guys weren't mentioned. But I think it may have something to do with,
Sputnik
The USS Wisconsin
Jin Henson or
Alaska becoming a state. Wait, that's it! Alaska is going to split from the Union. Ruled by the triumvirate of Jake, Pete and Steve. Yes, that MUST be it.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go wrap my head in tinfoil.
Message: Posted by: David Bilan (Oct 13, 2008 03:07PM)
Steve,

How about some "unofficial" (but true) clues? We won't spill the secret. I promise... ;)

Dave
Message: Posted by: Nerdini (Oct 13, 2008 03:15PM)
Does it have anything to do with the hottest new type of magic: Close-up comedy gospel mentalism?
Message: Posted by: JohnWells (Oct 13, 2008 03:18PM)
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!
Message: Posted by: mtpascoe (Oct 13, 2008 03:23PM)
What item was invented back then? Himber Bottles? IT? Vernet thumbtips? Fantasio Candles? Think, people think. What magical innovation was created back then? Together maybe we can crack this. (Or maybe we can get a life. Sure beats trying to figure out who will win the presidency.)
Message: Posted by: jbadman (Oct 13, 2008 03:28PM)
[quote]
On 2008-10-13 15:34, Tjernobyl wrote:
Or

Jigsaw
Puzzle

by
Steve Brooks
[/quote]

I think that's it... nice reactions, Tjernobyl ;-)

Jamie.
Message: Posted by: Chris Henderson (Oct 13, 2008 03:39PM)
Wild guess...

[b]J[/b]onathan Townsend
[b]P[/b]ete Biro
[b]S[/b]teve Brooks

[b]S[/b]earchable
[b]E[/b]lectronic
[b]C[/b]ross
[b]R[/b]eference of
[b]E[/b]very
[b]T[/b]rick
Message: Posted by: Tjernobyl (Oct 13, 2008 03:50PM)
[quote]
On 2008-10-13 16:28, jbadman wrote:
[quote]
On 2008-10-13 15:34, Tjernobyl wrote:
Or

Jigsaw
Puzzle

by
Steve Brooks
[/quote]

I think that's it... nice reactions, Tjernobyl ;-)

Jamie.
[/quote]

Haha yeah :-P

Finding the right chemistry is always what I am striving for. Maybe I can get a little help from "the firm"?

Tjernobyl
Message: Posted by: shek (Oct 13, 2008 04:16PM)
[quote]
On 2008-10-13 16:39, Chris Henderson wrote:
Wild guess...

[b]J[/b]onathan Townsend
[b]P[/b]ete Biro
[b]S[/b]teve Brooks

[b]S[/b]earchable
[b]E[/b]lectronic
[b]C[/b]ross
[b]R[/b]eference of
[b]E[/b]very
[b]T[/b]rick
[/quote]

I'm not going to lie. That would be pretty sweet :)
Message: Posted by: Pierre Emmanuel (Oct 13, 2008 04:37PM)
[quote]
On 2008-10-02 07:48, kannon wrote:
Linking rings! All totally examinable.
[/quote]

Freer did that already !
Message: Posted by: Paulo Cabrita (Oct 13, 2008 05:05PM)
Publicity fun game...

Paulo
Message: Posted by: mrmuji (Oct 13, 2008 05:19PM)
We all fell into Steve's trap. Maybe if we show our "uninterest" and stop talking about it, Steve should feel disappointed and bring up some clues....haha

Bob
Message: Posted by: mtpascoe (Oct 13, 2008 05:40PM)
[quote]
On 2008-10-13 18:19, mrmuji wrote:
We all fell into Steve's trap. Maybe if we show our "uninterest" and stop talking about it, Steve should feel disappointed and bring up some clues....haha

Bob
[/quote]

I like your thinking. (Oops. . . I just kept the thread going.)
Message: Posted by: vj022 (Oct 13, 2008 08:00PM)
I got it:

It was Miss Scarlett in the Conservitory with the lead pipe
Message: Posted by: Skotster (Oct 13, 2008 08:00PM)
If it is anything like the movie "The Secret" I'm not interested.
Message: Posted by: The Wizards Machine (Oct 13, 2008 08:19PM)
A date with my Mother-in-law? (Shivvvver).
Message: Posted by: mesmer (Oct 13, 2008 09:16PM)
Ooooh...........I know....it's 101 Mentalism Effect with Fantasio Candle
Message: Posted by: MagicMattMan (Oct 13, 2008 10:09PM)
My guess is 3 Card Monte with only one card or professor's nightmare with one rope.

However I am still waiting for the all-in-one deck that combines the following in one deck: Svengali, stripper, marked, and invisible.
Message: Posted by: Douglas Lippert (Oct 13, 2008 10:35PM)
I imagine the "secret project" is another online magic store or they are upgrading the forum.
Message: Posted by: MagicMattMan (Oct 13, 2008 10:37PM)
An upgraded forum would be pretty cool.
Message: Posted by: MagicMattMan (Oct 13, 2008 10:42PM)
Steve, are all three letters representing people?

Guesses by others:
JPS= Jonathan Townsend, Pete Biro, Steve Brooks
JPS= Jeff McBride,Paul Harris, Steve Brooks
JPS= Jonathan Bayme, Paul Harris, Steve Brooks
JPS= Justin Style, Penn Jillette, Steve Brooks

Or is it along the lines of J_______ P______ by Steve Brooks?
Message: Posted by: vinsmagic (Oct 13, 2008 10:43PM)
This is so Top Seceret
ThAT IT IS HEADED FOR HANGER 17 NEW MEXICO
Message: Posted by: MagicMattMan (Oct 13, 2008 10:47PM)
I'm sure that the Lone Gunmen from X-Files will find it if its there.
Message: Posted by: Steve Brooks (Oct 13, 2008 10:55PM)
[b]DVLKCC[/b] said; "[i]I imagine the "secret project" is another online magic store or they are upgrading the forum[/i]"

[b]Wrong[/b] answer - sorry.

Although, if you scroll down your Café screen you will see a [i]NEW[/i] (yet to be announced) category which contains two (2) yet to be announced forums. That new addition [i]DOES[/i] have [i]something[/i] to do with the SECRET project but is NOT the project proper. The new category / forums were posted the same day the banner went up and the first private message was sent out to our Café community. :smoke:
Message: Posted by: MagicMattMan (Oct 13, 2008 11:19PM)
I like how the ad for the secret project is right above those two new forums.
Message: Posted by: kihei kid (Oct 14, 2008 07:28AM)
[quote]
A self Levitation that really does look the business!

An instant self vanish?
[/quote]
I was thinking the same thing.

Either or.
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Oct 14, 2008 07:56AM)
A new 120 message limit in our "Inbox" ....eh hem :)
Message: Posted by: Tony Chapparo (Oct 14, 2008 09:32AM)
[quote]
On 2008-10-13 23:43, vinsmagic wrote:
This is so Top Seceret
ThAT IT IS HEADED FOR HANGER 17 NEW MEXICO
[/quote]

I'll take a peek... it's right down the road from me, get ready to bail me outta jail!
Message: Posted by: paymerich (Oct 14, 2008 10:56AM)
Unfortunately 6 months in internet-time is EONS. It will be non-starter due to over analysis and the Chris Kavanaugh let-down theorem. Look at ellusionist now , they cant give their cards away now . OVER-HYPE is bad bad bad . I hope the product does well but given recent history ,I hear more sizzle than steak.
Message: Posted by: Jimeh (Oct 14, 2008 11:26AM)
[quote]
On 2008-10-14 11:56, paymerich wrote:
I hear more sizzle than steak.
[/quote]

I like that line! lol
Message: Posted by: Steve Brooks (Oct 14, 2008 11:48AM)
[b]MagicMattMan[/b] said; "[i]Steve, are all three letters representing people?[/i]"

Yes. :)

[b]J[/b] = [b]?[/b]

[b]P[/b] = [b]?[/b]

[b]S[/b] = [b]Steve Brooks[/b]

:smoke:
Message: Posted by: MagicMattMan (Oct 14, 2008 12:01PM)
Thanks Steve--- it makes more sense that way :)
Message: Posted by: Titanas (Oct 14, 2008 12:27PM)
Steve,
What about Jay Sankey, Paul Harris and Steve Brooks?
If someone guess right it will you kindly accept it or it wont matter? :P
Message: Posted by: Sonny Vegas (Oct 14, 2008 12:31PM)
J = Jesus

P = Paris Hilton

S = Steve Brooks

I know! I know! It's a trick that magically has a crucified Hollywood Chihuahua rise from the dead. Either that or the dog knows how to change toilet water into wine...cheap wine.
Message: Posted by: Joshua Barrett (Oct 14, 2008 12:33PM)
So does this mean people have been waiting for Steve brooks for 50 years? incredible! the mentalists saw you coming!
Message: Posted by: SIX (Oct 14, 2008 12:53PM)
Ahhhh so this is the secret project you mentioned Steve. I know who the three people are as we all met in Toys R Us one day and you briefly touched on the secret project.

Do you mind if I share Steve, if not the secret is safe with me :)

SIX
Message: Posted by: Daryl -the other brother (Oct 14, 2008 01:00PM)
Spill your guts SIX
Message: Posted by: magicandsoul (Oct 14, 2008 01:02PM)
[quote]
On 2008-10-14 13:31, Sonny Vegas wrote:
J = Jesus

P = Paris Hilton

S = Steve Brooks

I know! I know! It's a trick that magically has a crucified Hollywood Chihuahua rise from the dead. Either that or the dog knows how to change toilet water into wine...cheap wine.
[/quote]
wow...

M&S
Message: Posted by: SIX (Oct 14, 2008 01:06PM)
Ahh, we must wait for the man to answer if it is ok. :lol:
Message: Posted by: voodoo (Oct 14, 2008 01:27PM)
Hmm..
a genie that can helped magician...Dhaaa??
Message: Posted by: mtpascoe (Oct 14, 2008 03:07PM)
[quote]
On 2008-10-13 22:16, mesmer wrote:
Ooooh...........I know....it's 101 Mentalism Effect with Fantasio Candle
[/quote]

I'll buy that.
Message: Posted by: Scott F. Guinn (Oct 14, 2008 05:41PM)
P = Paul Chosse?
Message: Posted by: Spydur (Oct 14, 2008 06:09PM)
[quote]
On 2008-10-14 13:31, Sonny Vegas wrote:
J = Jesus

P = Paris Hilton

S = Steve Brooks

I know! I know! It's a trick that magically has a crucified Hollywood Chihuahua rise from the dead. Either that or the dog knows how to change toilet water into wine...cheap wine.
[/quote]

WWJD?

Hahaha!

CB
Message: Posted by: Steve Brooks (Oct 14, 2008 06:20PM)
[b]Scott F. Guinn[/b] said; "[i]P = Paul Chosse?[/i]"

Scott, that was a good educated guess - unfortunately you are not correct. :(

Next...
Message: Posted by: Acecardician (Oct 14, 2008 06:52PM)
That Puzzle piece looks like a big E

ACE
Message: Posted by: WagsterMagic (Oct 14, 2008 08:40PM)
Maybe its the official shut down the Masked Magician Fan Club!!!!!!

Im in!!!

LOL or maybe its...........Crap!!!!!

I forget
Message: Posted by: chrusa (Oct 14, 2008 10:33PM)
Joe Porper? Oh and why did I get a new pm saying new clue but its the same clue?
Message: Posted by: EventEntertainer (Oct 14, 2008 10:39PM)
Joe Porper
Pete Biro
Steve Brooks
Message: Posted by: Acecardician (Oct 14, 2008 11:06PM)
50 years in the making: Someones birthday!

ACE :)
Message: Posted by: pepka (Oct 15, 2008 12:56AM)
How about any of the other names mentioned. Are they corrrect? I believe I mentioned Jake, Pete and Steve.
Message: Posted by: Joe Howard (Oct 15, 2008 10:12AM)
Jean Paul Sartre

The vanishing gopher trick

"In the immortal words of Jean-Paul Sartre: 'Au revoir, gopher.'" (Carl the Greenskeeper)
Message: Posted by: Yves Tourigny (Oct 15, 2008 10:37AM)
I think I will go with Pepka this time. I concur with his three names but I would add another S to the mix. I think the S stand for two names.

Yves
Message: Posted by: chrusa (Oct 15, 2008 10:51AM)
Mr Brooks how come I got a pm about a new clue and when I go to JPSmagic.com its the same one? I am bummed out. Does anyone know the new clue?

If we guess right would you let us know?
Message: Posted by: BRodgers (Oct 15, 2008 11:28AM)
[quote]
On 2008-10-15 11:51, chrusa wrote:
Mr Brooks how come I got a pm about a new clue and when I go to JPSmagic.com its the same one? I am bummed out. Does anyone know the new clue?

If we guess right would you let us know?
[/quote]

The new clue is not a new puzzle piece. The new clue is: the "S" in JPS stands for Steve Brooks.
Message: Posted by: Steve Brooks (Oct 15, 2008 01:44PM)
Correct. :)
Message: Posted by: Mad Jake (Oct 15, 2008 02:13PM)
Blues clues, Blues clues :)
Message: Posted by: ghostpianist (Oct 16, 2008 12:09AM)
Let's hope it is not just another overhype :)
Message: Posted by: chrusa (Oct 16, 2008 09:59AM)
Man that's not really a clue we all kind of knew Mr Brooks had somthing to do with it. Mr Brooks can you give us another clue or 2 please? :)
Message: Posted by: Steve Brooks (Oct 16, 2008 01:50PM)
[b]J[/b] = J _ _ _ _

[b]P[/b] = P _ _ _ _

[b]S[/b] = S t e v e

:smoke:
Message: Posted by: Tjernobyl (Oct 16, 2008 01:57PM)
Now that's obvious...

Jiggy
Piggy
Steve
Message: Posted by: gmmagic124 (Oct 16, 2008 03:34PM)
A 5 letter name beginning with J. Jimmy?
A 5 letter name beginning with P. Peter?
Message: Posted by: mrmuji (Oct 16, 2008 06:07PM)
J = Jumbo?
Message: Posted by: Steve Brooks (Oct 16, 2008 07:25PM)
[b]gmmagic124[/b] said; "[i]A 5 letter name beginning with P. Peter?[/i]"

Very good...so far...

[b]J[/b] = J _ _ _ _

[b]P[/b] = P e t e r

[b]S[/b] = S t e v e

:smoke:
Message: Posted by: Irishghost (Oct 16, 2008 07:44PM)
Jason
Message: Posted by: chrusa (Oct 16, 2008 08:36PM)
James
Message: Posted by: Eddie Garland (Oct 16, 2008 08:40PM)
Jerry
Message: Posted by: twisted_spoon (Oct 16, 2008 08:42PM)
JAMIE
Message: Posted by: mrmuji (Oct 16, 2008 08:59PM)
Jimmy
Message: Posted by: mrmuji (Oct 16, 2008 08:59PM)
OR Jonny
Message: Posted by: chrusa (Oct 16, 2008 09:17PM)
Lets analyze this it is a 5 letter name beginning with a J and P if you look at 5 letter first names


J = J _ _ _ _

P = P e t e r

S = S t e v e

Now Peter Biro has mentions he hangs out at dean Dills Shop which is Chatsworth CA 91311 [url=http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=Chatsworth%20CA%2091311&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wl]Click Here![/url] and has come out with effects with Joe Porper but after thinking about it Joe is not 5 letters.

Jabez Jacey Jacki Jacky Jacob Jaden Jadon Jadyn Jahir Jaida Jaime Jairo Jakob Jalen Jalon Jalyn Jamal Jamar Jamel James Jamey Jamie Jamil Jamin Jamir Jamya Janae Janay Janel Janet Janey Janie Janis Janna Jarad Jared Jaren Jaret Jarod Jaron Jasen Jason Javen Javon Jaxon Jayce Jayda Jayde Jayla Jayme Jayne Jeana Jeane Jemal Jenna Jenni Jenny Jerad Jered Jerel Jerod Jerri Jerry Jeryl Jesse Jessi Jessy Jesus Jetta Jevon Jewel Jiles Jimmy Joana Joann Jodie Joell Johan Johny Jolie Jonah Jonas Jones Jonna Jordi Jordy Jorge Jorja Josef Josie Josue Jovan Joyce Juana Judah Judge Judie Jules Julia Julie Julio Junia Junie Juwan

Going to whois.net doesn't help since jps magic is registered to
[b]Steve Brooks Magic P.O.Box 8086 Red Bluff, CA 96080[/b] which is in northern California.

The P might be Pete Biro since he is a frequent poster here and in California. Here is that location. [url=http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=Red+Bluff,+CA+96080&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&resnum=1&ct=title]Click Here![/url].

Peter Biro frequently talke about going to Deans Shop which I believe is in California (Deans Shop is in Glendale California)
[url=http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&resnum=0&q=Glendale+California&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&resnum=1&ct=title]Click Here![/url]

Researching Dean Dill I found [url=http://www.murphysmagic.com/Reel-Magic-Episode-6-Dean-Dill-DVD]Click Here![/url]

Now Steve Brooks is invovlved with Reel Magic as we get PM'S and Dean Dill's name is on there, so is there some Pete Biro affilation? There is also a 5 letter J name on this site Jaime Badman. Searching that name in google I find the following quote:

"The Underground Collective have developed many new effects, some of which are being released to the fraternity". The effects on this website have been called revolutionary and this new idea is something the magic fraternity can dream about, so is this revolutionary inventor the J? He is in the UK.

While the internet and telephone that might not be the case and could be anywhere.
Also from Red Bluff to Glendale is 510 mi – (about 7 hours 36 mins) so I was thinking Peter Loughran because if we go to look up Pete's trick Rainmaker we find the following that Steve wrote, and I quote:

"Peter Loughran is one of the most creative people I've had the pleasure to know in the last few years. He is an honorable and ethical man and I am proud to call him my friend. Even with all that in mind, I still feel very honored to be one of the privileged few to whom Peter consults with while he is working on a new trick, effect or illusion".

So can Steve be consulting again with Peter??

I am thinking it has to be with somebody experienced and maybe older (not necessarily, but due to the 50 year comment)


On YouTube the [url=http://www.youtube.com/themagicbakery]Magic Bakery[/url] has a few friends (murphysmagic is one) which is located in Sacramento (Norhern CA, 132 mi – about 2 hours 3 mins to Red Bluff)

Could this be the Dealer for the new item?


jamerz61's is another youtube friend, so James could be the 5 letter J. He is from Canada and Peter Loughran is from Canada which brings me to the next point:

[url=http://www.youtube.com/themagicbakery]The Magic Bakery[/url] is friends with MOIEntertainment (Master of Illusions Entertainment) and also friends with
AmazingJoeJoe - (but we established Joe is 3 letters and not 5) and Friends with tfrank8176.

I really think I might have the P right.
Message: Posted by: chrusa (Oct 16, 2008 10:20PM)
Actually one more P thing if you look at their scren names Pete Biro is 4 letters and the P would prob say Pete instead of Peter so I am thinking it might be Peter Loughran since it seems he refers to himself as Peter since that is in his screen name.
Message: Posted by: EventEntertainer (Oct 16, 2008 10:30PM)
Julie or Jamie would be my guess...

Unless it's Josef Porper or Joe for short :)
Message: Posted by: Eddie Garland (Oct 16, 2008 10:31PM)
Jules maybe...
Message: Posted by: Steve Brooks (Oct 16, 2008 11:55PM)
[b]chrusa[/b] guessed pretty good and [b]Irishghost[/b] is on the right track (in regards to what the company name stands for). :)

Having said that, we sit thus far:

[b]J[/b] = J A S O N _ _ _ _ _ _

[b]P[/b] = Peter Loughran

[b]S[/b] = Steve Brooks

:smoke:
Message: Posted by: Mya Angel (Oct 17, 2008 12:18AM)
Special assistant Mya here, :wavey:

I haven't been around for awhile, I've been on "special assignment" But I saw this thread and thought hmmm I guess I could let you all in on The "secret project" but then I thought hmm I wonder what it would be worth to everyone.....

Any takers?????

Mya :bg:
Message: Posted by: Review King (Oct 17, 2008 02:10AM)
Jason Palter?
Message: Posted by: brainman (Oct 17, 2008 02:37AM)
...any mentalists out there who can help???

; )
Message: Posted by: Ustaad (Oct 17, 2008 04:10AM)
OK, I give up :bawl: . . . . now please let me in. :rolleyes:

:welcome:

:thanx:

:) ;)

:xmas:
Message: Posted by: jbadman (Oct 17, 2008 06:39AM)
Yeah must be Jason Palter... further evidence:

[url=http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=37982&forum=104&7&start=0#6]Click Here![/url]

A whole lotta love between Jason and Peter.

So that's the lineup sorted out... now how about some clues as to what this thing actually is?!!!

Cheers,

Jamie.
Message: Posted by: Artemus (Oct 17, 2008 08:20AM)
Without letting the cat out of the bag!!!! I think it might have something to do with internet Scrabble....?
Message: Posted by: tangoking (Oct 17, 2008 11:01AM)
Thinking completely out of the box and irashinally as possible May be its An out of body expierience You know Like when you were in school on a nice day when you were a kid and wish you were somewhere else
Other than this I truly don't know and can't wait to find out!

Paul Tangoking
Message: Posted by: Steve Brooks (Oct 17, 2008 11:32AM)
[b]Christopher Kavanagh[/b] said; "[i]Jason Palter?[/i]"

Okay Chris, you guessed correctly. :)

[b]J[/b] = Jason Palter

[b]P[/b] = Peter Loughran

[b]S[/b] = Steve Brooks

:smoke:
Message: Posted by: MagicMattMan (Oct 17, 2008 12:09PM)
WOW! Sounds pretty intense! Can't wait for March now!
Message: Posted by: Steve Brooks (Oct 17, 2008 01:15PM)
The feeling is mutual. :yippee:
Message: Posted by: The Mighty Fool (Oct 17, 2008 01:30PM)
Does the name of the uh thingy begin with an 'E'? That's what the puzzle piece looks like
Message: Posted by: chrusa (Oct 17, 2008 02:46PM)
Is SECRET an acronym?
Message: Posted by: Irishghost (Oct 17, 2008 06:16PM)
Oh Oh, a Canadian connection. This is going to be sweet!!!!!
Message: Posted by: Irishghost (Oct 17, 2008 06:16PM)
Is it something these 3 men have in common?
Message: Posted by: Magic Arty (Oct 17, 2008 09:32PM)
Something they all have in common?.....hmmmm. I got it!

They all Do "KIller Red Caps!'
Message: Posted by: Mya Angel (Oct 18, 2008 09:34PM)
:worry:
Message: Posted by: Steve Brooks (Oct 19, 2008 09:24AM)
[b]chrusa[/b] said; "[i]Is SECRET an acronym?[/i]"

The answer is NO.

:smoke:
Message: Posted by: Ustaad (Oct 19, 2008 10:46AM)
[quote]
On 2008-10-19 10:24, Steve Brooks wrote:
[b]chrusa[/b] said; "[i]Is SECRET an acronym?[/i]"

[b][i]The answer is no.[/i][/b]

:smoke:
[/quote]

Hmmm :exclaim:

This is becoming interesting.

:xmas:
Message: Posted by: Steve Brooks (Oct 20, 2008 01:36PM)
[b]The Mighty Fool[/b] said; "[i]Does the name of the uh thingy begin with an 'E'? That's what the puzzle piece looks like[/i]"

Could be...but then again... :innocent:
Message: Posted by: paymerich (Oct 20, 2008 06:57PM)
OK no offense but what are we getting excited for?? A new effect from the guy who made Rainmaker ?? That had to have been the single biggest piece of magic crap I ever saw and used.
Message: Posted by: Steve Brooks (Oct 20, 2008 07:57PM)
[b]paymerich[/b] said; "[i]OK no offense but what are we getting excited for?? A new effect from the guy who made Rainmaker ?? That had to have been the single biggest piece of magic crap I ever saw and used[/i]"

No offense to you [b]paymerich[/b], but I find it very odd that your posts in this topic are very negative - especially given the fact that you have absolutely no idea what the SECRET project is about. For all you know we may be opening a museum dedicated to magic or perhaps we are about to announce the dates for a convention or...I think you get the point.

Assuming that the SECRET project has something to do with an effect created by Peter is very presumptuous on your part - there are several individuals involved with the SECRET project. We are all having fun here, if playing the game is something that does not interest you we certainly have a slew of other forums on the Café to choose from.

Finally, in regards to your comments regarding [b]Peter Loughran's[/b] effect RAINMAKER, I'm sorry to hear it did not suit your style of magic. As I said in my review [url=http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?topic=171775&forum=71&0]HERE[/url] I got great reactions and still do. As with all magic not everything works for everybody. That aside, that is not the subject of this discussion. If you have comments on one of Peter's creations, please feel free to make such comments in the appropriate review area. :smoke:
Message: Posted by: chrusa (Oct 20, 2008 09:30PM)
So we have the SECRET (not an acronym) Project which is "What the magic world has dreamed about for half a century..."

This is a project brought to us by:

J = Jason Palter
Occupation: (Not Listed)
Interests: Most things magical, acting, voice-over and Star Wars
Website: http://www.paltergeist.com/
Location: Canada

Viewing the website seems to be mainly mentalism possible clue there

(We Can Eliminate Star Wars having to do with the effect as Star Wars hasnt been out for 50 Years)

Jason Palters wbesite displays the following links there is a potential clue
http://www.masterofillusions.ca (No clues here we know Peter is involved)
http://www.snowtroopers.ca (Star Wars Website)
http://www.theactor.net ( A voice over talent)
http://www.starwars.com (Not 50 years old no clue)
http://www.flashlightdesign.com (A NEW Website not designed, Could THIS have something to do with the secret project?)

P = Peter Loughran
Occupation: Illusionist / Magic Inventor
Interests: Thrills, Hauntedhouse attractions, The Dallas Cowboys and their cheerleaders!
Website: http://www.masterofillusions.ca
Location:Canada

Viewing the website seems to be mainly illusions with tones of original ideas for other kinds of effects possible clue there

S = Steve Brooks Occupation: Producer / Publisher / Magician Interests: Magic, Graphic Arts, Music, Computers, Film, History & Theater From California Website: http://www.themagicbakery.com/

IT must be good because of the advertising strategy and there was an advertisement in MAGIC magazine.


Steve Brook Replied:
A box? Hmmmm...

Could the effect have to do with a box of some sort?


This is what it is NOT according to Tim Trono who knows:
or some levitation, pipe dream, etc. \


Al Straker said:
OK I got it now... the "Kamikaze Escapologists Do It Yourself Explosives Kit".
Steve Brooks Replied:
Sorry Al Straker - close, but no cigar.
Was Steve Brooks being serious or sarcastic?


DVLKCC said;
"I imagine the "secret project" is another online magic store or they are upgrading the forum"

Steve Brooks:
Wrong answer - sorry.
Although, if you scroll down your Café screen you will see a NEW (yet to be announced) category which contains two (2) yet to be announced forums. That new addition DOES have something to do with the SECRET project but is NOT the project proper. The new category / forums were posted the same day the banner went up and the first private message was sent out to our Café community.


This Secret projects is not just getting one forum but 2 goes to further show hoiw this would probably be more than ONE item!

Special assistant Mya wrote:
I haven't been around for awhile, I've been on "special assignment" But I saw this thread and thought hmmm I guess I could let you all in on The "secret project" but then I thought hmm I wonder what it would be worth to everyone.....
Any takers?????
Mya

Who is this Mya? Her and Tim Trono are 2 other people who know what the project is!
It is Coming: March 2009

I am lead to belivee this is more than one item or a series or items. Reason being is the website name. JPSMagic.com/ It is a collaboration between 3 individuals and it is not a website name such as http://www.theperfectlevitation.com which is one item. If it was one item the URL would be named after this one item to make it memorable. It sounds like it might even be a new shop of some sort?

Heres some famous Magicians Birth and deaths from 50 years ago might help


LePaul, Paul (1900-1958) (birthday August 2)
American magician (real name Paul Braden) who is considered by some to have been the greatest stage card manipulator in magic history.

Gabriel, Joseph (b. 1958)
American magician (real name Joseph Gabriel Wierzbicki) who gained fame with his beautiful and startling dove act which concluded with the production of two giant macaws. He was first noted as the illustrator for a number of magic books.

Jim Steinmeyer (born 1 November 1958) is an internationally respected designer of magical illusions and theatrical special effects. His best known illusions include Origami, Interlude, and Walking Through a Mirror. He is also an author, consultant and producer.[1][2]


in 1958 the following happened



Mark Wilson proved that magic works on TV
Mark Wilson
Mark Wilson
When Mark Wilson tried to get a magic series for children on national television in 1958, people told him that magic "won't work on TV." But he never gave up. He found his own sponsor in Kellogg's. "The Magic Land of Allakazam" first aired in 1960; the first sponsored magic series on American TV.

Wilson believed that magic needed three things to work on TV:

• Always have a live audience

• Never have the camera cut away during a trick.

• Let viewers know that they see exactly what the studio audience sees.

The magic of Mark Wilson and Nani Darnell inspired quite a few youngsters to become magicians when they grew up.



ALSO in 1958 the Move The MAgician was out

Here are some BOOKS from 1958

Severn, Bill Magic and Magicians 1958

The Great Houdini, 1958, 8th printing

The Magician's Handbook, 1958, Yoseloff
This is the 1958 "new edition" of Robert Parrish's book, The Magician's Handbook. This 240 page hardbound book is complete with original dustjacket and is a complete guide to the art of beginning magic. Twenty chapters of easy to learn magic from close up to stage magic, tricks you can make, and essays on how to be a better magician.

This is Magic: Secrets of the Conjuror's Craft
By Will Dexter. Citadel, 1958. This is one of the most charming books about magic I have ever seen. In a friendly, chatty style, Dexter tells a series of stories about magic, including chapters on The Legend of Houdini, The Trick that Never Was (the Indian Rope Trick), and one called Up in the Middle of the Air about the illusion of flight.


Could it be a REAL version of the Indian Rope Trick?????? That is probably one of the biggest MYTHS in Magic?

What would be BIGGER than that? These is a MASTER OF ILLUSIONS involved in JPS Magic
Message: Posted by: chrusa (Oct 20, 2008 09:32PM)
Go to Google Type in Indian Rope Trick 1958!!!!
Message: Posted by: Ustaad (Oct 21, 2008 12:26AM)
Hi Chrusa,

WOW, I'm impressed & so would the others. :)

I must say you're applying your MIND very logically. You seem to be slowly but steadily moving towards the SECRET.

Wish you good luck!

Kind regards,

Narendra

:xmas:
P.S. We too have our THINKING CAPS on. ;) :)
Message: Posted by: Michael Peterson (Oct 21, 2008 11:36AM)
[quote]
On 2008-10-17 19:16, Irishghost wrote:
Is it something these 3 men have in common?
[/quote]

Yes, all 3 are fantastic dancers!



Mike
Message: Posted by: Steve Brooks (Oct 21, 2008 01:14PM)
[b]chrusa[/b] said; "[i]Al Straker said:
OK I got it now... the "Kamikaze Escapologists Do It Yourself Explosives Kit".
Steve Brooks Replied:
Sorry Al Straker - close, but no cigar. Was Steve Brooks being serious or sarcastic?[/i]"

The answer would be sarcastic. ;)
Message: Posted by: Steve Brooks (Oct 22, 2008 01:34AM)
[b]chrusa[/b] said; "[i]Could it be a REAL version of the Indian Rope Trick?[/i]"

The answer is NO. :smoke:

However, the [i]SECOND[/i] piece (Clue) of the puzzle has now been revealed: [url=http://www.jpsmagic.com]Click Here[/url] or see the November 2008 issue of MAGIC magazine! :)
Message: Posted by: Mark McDermott (Oct 23, 2008 05:48AM)
Is it a secret project with Ellusionist having to do with a cell phone?


Mark
Message: Posted by: Paul Romhany (Oct 23, 2008 08:14AM)
Could possibly be some type of Zombie - although it's been 60 years since Joe Karson invented the Ghostly Sphere. However I don't think the magic world has been waiting 50 years for somebody to modify this because Tommy Wonder took this to a new level.
Message: Posted by: chrusa (Oct 23, 2008 08:19AM)
Mr Brooks, I love the whole idea of the game and am so happy that you have been playing along - I have a question...

If someone guesses right will you let them know as you did Mr. Trono or not, because it might spoil the suprise?

The puzzle idea is neat but the new piece doesn't tell us anything!

What magicians have dreamed about for 50 years (Ok, so I know it is a dream and something really big and good)

The next piece says "Soon the dream will become a reality" Well we knew that because it said coming March of 2009 with the first pzzle piece. So in that case, because we already knew that soon the dream will become a reality I am asking if you would mind posting a [i]third[/i] piece to the puzzle on [url=http://www.jpsmagic.com]JPSMagic.com[/url]?

I know the answer will be no, but I always thought there is never any harm in asking because you miss one hundred percent of the shots you never take!
Message: Posted by: gaffed (Oct 23, 2008 09:05AM)
Jimmy Hoffa appears in a beer bottle with with the spectators signed quarter in his mouth?

Nah....that's an old trick and I no longer do it anymore as most of the younger people don't have a clue who he is so the reaction went way down.

Ya got me....I'm lost. Never was all that good with puzzles.
Guess I'll just have to wait for the Ides of March.

~gaffed~
Message: Posted by: Steve James (Oct 23, 2008 09:18AM)
Its sure to be a huge let down after all this hype.
Message: Posted by: Anthony Black (Oct 23, 2008 09:51AM)
It is a genetically modified monkey, whose genes have been spliced with Banachek, Corinda and Chan Canasta. He is the Ultimate Mentalist and his name is Egbert.
You can buy a clone of him for £6,000!!

Am I correct Steve, please tell me I am. I really want an Egbert!!
Message: Posted by: James Alan (Oct 23, 2008 11:10AM)
I'm confused... the last clue was in an email titled REVELATION. And yes, we did have to wait over 50 years for REVELATION, but Mike Caveney's Magic Words delivered it months ago...
Message: Posted by: Tom G (Oct 23, 2008 11:56AM)
How 'bout a simple clue???? Close-up, mental, stage, illusion???
Message: Posted by: bloodkin (Oct 23, 2008 01:17PM)
Is it a Tazer wand for Birthday Parties?
Message: Posted by: Magic1962 (Oct 23, 2008 01:31PM)
[quote]
On 2008-10-23 14:17, bloodkin wrote:
Is it a Tazer wand for Birthday Parties?
[/quote]

that's funny I could use that with the youth I work with every day...
Message: Posted by: MagicMattMan (Oct 23, 2008 01:37PM)
Its going to be a magic puzzle that assembles itself---we're looking at it on the page as new pieces of a puzzle appear.
Message: Posted by: GarySumpter (Oct 23, 2008 01:43PM)
[quote]
On 2008-10-23 10:18, Steve James wrote:
Its sure to be a huge let down after all this hype.
[/quote]

Agreed.
Message: Posted by: Docc Spurlock (Oct 23, 2008 02:07PM)
IT'S A DAVID BLAINE THING>>>

Cut Away.... Angles....Stooges
Message: Posted by: wizardofsorts (Oct 23, 2008 02:45PM)
It's another theory on the identity of Erdnase. That's what the pieces spell, "Erdnase is Steve Brooks."

Edd
Message: Posted by: Review King (Oct 23, 2008 03:06PM)
[quote]
On 2008-10-23 10:18, Steve James wrote:
Its sure to be a huge let down after all this hype.
[/quote]

I think the intent is to provide a fun game for everyone. I don't think Steve would waste his time with non-sense, so I suspect it will be pretty cool.
Message: Posted by: stanalger (Oct 23, 2008 05:23PM)
The letters of "REVELATION" can be rearranged to spell "ELEVATOR IN."
Peter Loughran is involved.
See second post in this thread Could Michael Peterson have been right from
the get-go?
Remove the diagonal segment from the "N" and you get "ELEVATOR III."
Message: Posted by: stanalger (Oct 23, 2008 05:26PM)
Doh!
Trono already said it's not a levitation!
(But that doesn't mean it can't be called ELEVATOR.)
Message: Posted by: The Wizard of Hearts (Oct 23, 2008 07:49PM)
Technically, the Balducci is a suspension, not a levitation, since the ascension is only implied, not actual. So Elevator III is still in play.
Message: Posted by: Spydur (Oct 23, 2008 09:01PM)
Does it involve dental dam, a dime, and a small glass? Cause if it does that'd be sweet! I still have no idea how to do that effect and could easily use a 15 volume set of DVDs dissecting the entire effect in it's whole.

But seriously I am excited to see how this unfolds!

Corey

P.S. A master of this type of marketing is Mark Joyner. Just an fyi...
Message: Posted by: chrusa (Oct 24, 2008 12:20AM)
Not elevator because it is not a levitation. Balducci is a levitation not a suspension.
Message: Posted by: alannasser (Oct 24, 2008 05:16AM)
There's something demeaning about this whole procedure. What's the point? Wouldn't it be better to just ignore all this until the final revelation? Hype and manipulation. Why stoop?

Alan
Message: Posted by: Review King (Oct 24, 2008 07:07AM)
[quote]
On 2008-10-24 06:16, alannasser wrote:
There's something demeaning about this whole procedure. What's the point? Wouldn't it be better to just ignore all this until the final revelation? Hype and manipulation. Why stoop?

Alan
[/quote]

Some folks like puzzles and games. Those that don't, can ignore the thread.
Message: Posted by: QED (Oct 24, 2008 08:29AM)
[quote]On 2008-10-23 10:51, darkcard wrote:
It is a genetically modified monkey, whose genes have been spliced with Banachek, Corinda and Chan Canasta. He is the Ultimate Mentalist and his name is Egbert.
You can buy a clone of him for £6,000!!
Am I correct Steve, please tell me I am. I really want an Egbert!![/quote]

Penn & Teller already did that like 15-20 years ago with MOFO...
sorry buddy, you missed the boat on that one! :lol:
Message: Posted by: Paulo Cabrita (Oct 24, 2008 09:54AM)
I agree...

Paulo
Message: Posted by: Mya Angel (Oct 24, 2008 11:50AM)
Tom G said; "How 'bout a simple clue???? Close-up, mental, stage, illusion???"

YES!

:D
Message: Posted by: Steve Brooks (Oct 24, 2008 09:00PM)
Mya is correct. :bwink:
Message: Posted by: Ustaad (Oct 25, 2008 12:28AM)
[quote]
On 2008-10-24 12:50, Mya Angel wrote:
Tom G said; "How 'bout a simple clue???? Close-up, mental, stage, illusion???"

YES!

:D
[/quote]

[quote]
On 2008-10-24 22:00, Steve Brooks wrote:
Mya is correct. :bwink:
[/quote]

Looks like its going to be the launch of an unique website dealing in one or all of the following:-

(a) Designing, developing and fabrication of magic illusions/ props.

and/ or

(b) One of the largest internet magic distribution outlets.

and/ or

(c) An internet magic academy - one of its kind.

and/ or

(d) Launch of an unique Levitation illusion/ prop

No? :(

Anyways, whatsoever it be, wish you & the new venture Good Luck & all the Success. :)

:xmas:
Message: Posted by: The Mac (Oct 25, 2008 02:22AM)
Or a new blueberry muffin...mmm...muffin.
Message: Posted by: Titanas (Oct 25, 2008 02:57AM)
[quote]
On 2008-10-24 12:50, Mya Angel wrote:
Tom G said; "How 'bout a simple clue???? Close-up, mental, stage, illusion???"

YES!

:D
[/quote]

[quote]
On 2008-10-24 22:00, Steve Brooks wrote:
Mya is correct. :bwink:
[/quote]

So after this statement,
seems like these 3 gentlemen will start a new shop.
This sounds interesting but where is the 50 years part?
Message: Posted by: comicjenius (Oct 25, 2008 09:07AM)
Could it be "Everything You Ever Wanted To Know About Magic, But Were Too Afraid To Ask"? Or, a flying levetation based on Disney TV's 1958 animated feature devoted to forms of future travel? Or, could it be they've hit upon the secret of Houdini's little known effect called: "A Jar Of Peanut Butter, Two Forks, A Bandaid, Forty Midgets, A Dead Badger And A Box Of Scorpions"? I'm STUMPED! But I will be eagerly awaiting broadcast of the Secret Project in March! Ooooh, that's five months of sleepless nights! :)
Message: Posted by: chrusa (Oct 25, 2008 08:28PM)
[quote]There's something demeaning about this whole procedure. What's the point? Wouldn't it be better to just ignore all this until the final revelation? Hype and manipulation. Why stoop?[/quote]

Alan If you do not like it ignore the thread
Message: Posted by: ricker (Oct 26, 2008 10:29AM)
Can't be me, since I'll only be 49 in March of 2009. Feb 2009 is the 50th anniversay of the 'day the music died'. So who turns 50 in March 2009 of the 3?
Message: Posted by: Tom Cutts (Oct 26, 2008 12:11PM)
These three guys are detailed in their execution. They will do big things and they will do the little things exceptionally well. I can't wait to see this.
Message: Posted by: Epiphany (Oct 26, 2008 12:54PM)
[quote]
On 2008-10-24 06:16, alannasser wrote:
There's something demeaning about this whole procedure. What's the point? Wouldn't it be better to just ignore all this until the final revelation? Hype and manipulation. Why stoop?

Alan
[/quote]

Stoop? Marketing is about mystery, hype and the final product to be introduced. Ebay had great success with "IT", the numbers of hits showed this.

The great thing about Mr. Brook's' approach on the release of this project is that he may market it any way he wishes. My father clued me in on what the release is,( as Mr. Brooks consulted with RNT II on some things). This will be a [i]Monumental[/i] release that no one in magic is expecting.

I for one am very excited about this and find Mr. Brook's approach in marketing a great tool and something to keep the public at "Interest" as the final plan comes together before its release.

Epiphany Jean
Message: Posted by: not i (Oct 27, 2008 12:53AM)
I'm thinking they are going to finally release the secret of the Fizban... ;)
Message: Posted by: Steve Brooks (Oct 28, 2008 10:52AM)
[b]The Mighty Fool[/b] said; "[i]Does the name of the uh thingy begin with an 'E'? That's what the puzzle piece looks like[/i]"

The answer is YES! :rainbow:
Message: Posted by: David Bond (Oct 28, 2008 03:58PM)
You're going to make the Emerald Queen Casino disappear! That E looks an awful lot like the stylized E for the EQC. People in the Seattle area will know what I mean.

David Bond
Message: Posted by: dlachance (Oct 29, 2008 06:11PM)
So do I need to start saving hordes of cash now.....????

Dorian
Message: Posted by: fooksau (Oct 29, 2008 06:46PM)
So is it that E and the Café are teaming up on a website project?
Message: Posted by: Steve Brooks (Oct 29, 2008 10:10PM)
[b]dlachance[/b] said; "[i]So do I need to start saving hordes of cash now.....????[/i]"

I would. But then again that's just my opinion. :nod:

[b]fooksau[/b] said; "[i]So is it that E and the Café are teaming up on a website project?[/i]"

The answer is NO. :smoke:
Message: Posted by: MagicMattMan (Oct 29, 2008 11:35PM)
[quote]
On 2008-10-29 23:10, Steve Brooks wrote:
[b]dlachance[/b] said; "[i]So do I need to start saving hordes of cash now.....????[/i]"

I would. But then again that's just my opinion. :nod:
[/quote]

So what estimated amount are we looking at? I'm on a college student budget. :)
Message: Posted by: stuartmagic (Oct 30, 2008 03:46AM)
If I am right and you think outside of the box I believe that there is also a letter "A" in the word if I am thinking along the right lines. I have to take a bit of an educated guess as I am not over 50 and therefore haven't been dreaming about it for over 50 years lol. One more jigsaw clue will probably confirm or deny my thoughts, oops musn't say too much :)

Stuart Brown.
British Magical Champion
Of Stage Manipulation 2007
Message: Posted by: Steve Brooks (Oct 30, 2008 11:40AM)
[b]MagicMattMan[/b] said; "[i]So what estimated amount are we looking at? I'm on a college student budget[/i]"

Then you'll probably purchase a college student portion. :bwink:
Message: Posted by: MagicMattMan (Oct 30, 2008 11:51AM)
[quote]
On 2008-10-30 12:40, Steve Brooks wrote:
[b]MagicMattMan[/b] said; "[i]So what estimated amount are we looking at? I'm on a college student budget[/i]"

Then you'll probably purchase a college student portion. :bwink:
[/quote]

A portion? What? Is it edible magic? That E on the puzzle piece looks like the E in the "Mr. Empanada" stores. Also E for edible
Message: Posted by: Mya Angel (Oct 30, 2008 01:22PM)
:hungry:
Message: Posted by: Steve Brooks (Oct 31, 2008 07:07PM)
Edible? Not unless you don't mind losing your teeth! :lol:
Message: Posted by: Michael Peterson (Nov 3, 2008 12:24PM)
[quote]
On 2008-10-23 22:01, Spydur wrote:
Does it involve dental dam, a dime, and a small glass? Cause if it does that'd be sweet! I still have no idea how to do that effect and could easily use a 15 volume set of DVDs dissecting the entire effect in it's whole.

But seriously I am excited to see how this unfolds!

Corey

P.S. A master of this type of marketing is Mark Joyner. Just an fyi...
[/quote]


Actually, it's a version of the trick using a trampoline,a hot tub & a hub cap.

Mike
Message: Posted by: Peter Loughran (Nov 3, 2008 02:14PM)
Mike, when we told you what this project was all about, you swore you would keep it a secret. Thanks for nothing.

Peter.
Message: Posted by: Michael Peterson (Nov 3, 2008 03:20PM)
[quote]
On 2008-11-03 15:14, Peter Loughran wrote:
Mike, when we told you what this project was all about, you swore you would keep it a secret. Thanks for nothing.

Peter.
[/quote]

Well, maybe if I had received a Witch board to do a review on, I wouldn't have had to expose this ;)

Mike
Message: Posted by: Jason Palter (Nov 5, 2008 12:39PM)
Hello all:

Hey Peter, by the way...can I get a Witch Board too?! :lol:

Best regards,

Jason Palter
Paltergeist Unlimited
(416) 410-5766
Message: Posted by: Silvio Solaris (Nov 5, 2008 07:44PM)
It will be a stock exchange for magicians called the Exchange. Perhaps you can also trade tricks there who knows... :)
Message: Posted by: tdowell (Nov 6, 2008 12:05AM)
East Indian Rope Trick.
Message: Posted by: Steve Brooks (Nov 6, 2008 11:54PM)
Nope - this has nothing whatsoever to do with the famous Indian Rope Trick. :smoke:
Message: Posted by: Ustaad (Nov 7, 2008 01:10AM)
OK. Is it a prop?

Another levitation - The ultimate Levitation by Peter :question:

No? :(

:fruity:

:xmas:
Message: Posted by: Chappo (Nov 7, 2008 06:59AM)
From the clues given thus far...

I think Steve is eluding to the fact that he is undertaking a top-secret project that is made of something, has a name and isn't edible.

Please send me your PM's of thanks. :kewl:
Message: Posted by: Steve Brooks (Nov 7, 2008 07:57PM)
[b]Chappo[/b] is absolutely correct. :nod: :)
Message: Posted by: jcmagicman (Nov 7, 2008 10:03PM)
I finally got it guys. I think this might be it.

Sacred The Child Conjuring Illusion

PRODUCE A SMALL CHILD OUT OF THIN AIR WITH NO BOXES OF ANY KIND!
COMING SOON!

The secret project has been listed at Peter Loughran's site below..

[url=http://www.masterofillusions.ca/master_of_illusions_coming_soon1.htm]Click Here![/url]
Message: Posted by: Peter Loughran (Nov 8, 2008 11:38AM)
Good guess JC, and as much as I am excited about the release of Sacred and some of my other new effects coming out, I can tell you that this project has absolutely nothing to do with any of my products, and nothing to do with any of Steve or Jason's products...hmmmm

P.
Message: Posted by: Jacob Smith (Nov 8, 2008 11:49AM)
Well I guess the secret project will be very popular with the creepy neighbor down the way and jackson family
Message: Posted by: Peter Loughran (Nov 8, 2008 11:54AM)
Magician 336: I said the secret project has NOTHING to do with any of our products! Your remarks are funny though, Good one!
Message: Posted by: Acecardician (Nov 11, 2008 03:01PM)
[quote]
On 2008-10-14 19:52, Acecardician wrote:
That Puzzle piece looks like a big E

ACE
[/quote]

So I was correct in what I saw in the first piece of the puzzle.
You can contact me through pm to send me my prize.:)

ACE
Message: Posted by: Acecardician (Nov 11, 2008 10:59PM)
Just in case you are checking , the next guy came up with an E on the 17th,
I'm sure independently, as few people read 8 pages! But I do, sometimes, lol.

And yes, We love clues! Look in some of the threads on new tricks, especially the ones with video trailers, and everyone(even me) is guessing how it works! And asking questions and searching for the method. That is what makes this so fun. As a good sport, I usually buy the effect even if I figure it out, if I think it will fit into my show. And sometimes I buy it even if it doesn't, if it is reasonably priced!

once again, send my prize info to my pm :)

ACE (I love this place!)
Message: Posted by: Eddie Garland (Nov 12, 2008 12:20AM)
"E" for Ellen DeGeneres who was born 50 years ago?

Does this involve dancing?

I certainly hope so.
Message: Posted by: Steve Brooks (Nov 14, 2008 01:32PM)
Yes, the first letter is indeed an "[b]E[/b]"
Message: Posted by: Michael Peterson (Nov 14, 2008 01:39PM)
[quote]
On 2008-11-14 14:32, Steve Brooks wrote:
Yes, the first letter is ineed an "[b]E[/b]"
[/quote]

An E huh?

Einsteins amazing ball & vase?


Mike
Message: Posted by: Rizzo (Nov 14, 2008 02:20PM)
It will be a new paid service for interactive magic learning, sharing and entertaining.
Message: Posted by: Jimeh (Nov 14, 2008 02:31PM)
That sounds like the most plausible answer I've heard so far...
Message: Posted by: chrusa (Nov 15, 2008 03:03PM)
Any new clues?
Message: Posted by: Acecardician (Nov 16, 2008 03:49AM)
Email magic.
Message: Posted by: sickmagic (Nov 16, 2008 04:19AM)
[quote]
On 2008-11-15 16:03, chrusa wrote:
Any new clues?
[/quote]

Yup its called SUPER HYPE! LOL
Message: Posted by: Steve Brooks (Nov 16, 2008 11:25AM)
[b]Acecardician[/b] said; "[i]Email magic[/i]".

I guess you could if you used a webcam...
Message: Posted by: mistermudd (Nov 16, 2008 03:08PM)
I am with the few who suggested some sort of university.

Could the "E" be the beginning of "EDU"?

That would be nice.
Message: Posted by: Jimeh (Nov 16, 2008 03:21PM)
FINALLY, I'll get a diploma in something! ;)
Message: Posted by: Michael J. Douglas (Nov 17, 2008 04:44PM)
Shh....whilst Steve's head is turned, I'll let you in on the "secret." It's a boxed set of Mr. "Ed" DVDs. Keep it on the DL.
Message: Posted by: Harv (Nov 17, 2008 06:26PM)
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!
Message: Posted by: Steve Brooks (Nov 18, 2008 10:35PM)
[b]Michael J. Douglas[/b] said; "[i]It's a boxed set of Mr. "Ed" DVDs[/i]"

Sorry, no Mr.Ed DVDs...although some people will surely want the entire set. :bwink:
Message: Posted by: Michael Peterson (Nov 18, 2008 10:54PM)
[quote]
On 2008-11-18 23:35, Steve Brooks wrote:
[b]Michael J. Douglas[/b] said; "[i]It's a boxed set of Mr. "Ed" DVDs[/i]"

Sorry, no Mr.Ed DVDs...although some people will surely want the entire set. :bwink:
[/quote]


Entire set?

I got it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:dancing: Joe Mogar color changing Ginsu knives :dancing:


Mike
Message: Posted by: Perl (Nov 19, 2008 03:34AM)
Elemental? electiric? eletronic?

am I anything clos? :]
Message: Posted by: jasanchez (Nov 19, 2008 05:56PM)
I figure the first word is Elite??? what does it mean?
Message: Posted by: Pablo_Amira (Nov 19, 2008 05:56PM)
ELIXIR!!
Message: Posted by: jordanjohnson (Nov 19, 2008 06:28PM)
Ya it is E-L-I-T but I have a feeling revealing the puzzle piece isn't going to completely give away the project
Message: Posted by: mtpascoe (Nov 19, 2008 06:37PM)
So, true Watson. I guess we are going to be strung up like this for about a year. Hope it's worth it.
Message: Posted by: the kid houdini (Nov 19, 2008 06:57PM)
Well the clue is One dream many incarnations, so I am going with a compilation of methods for a certain effect, or possibly a store with many effects. COuld be just about anything actually.....

I was wondering has anyone said if this was an effect? or something else entirely?
Message: Posted by: mrunge (Nov 19, 2008 07:23PM)
Yep...Elite. Not sure what it's about, but that's the word that will be revealed in the end.

Mark. :worry:
Message: Posted by: PepeRuizSJ (Nov 19, 2008 07:26PM)
Elite: a group of people considered to be the best in a particular society or category, esp. because of their wealth, power, or talent. Elite: E-L-I-T-E.

What did I win?!!!!
Message: Posted by: MagicMattMan (Nov 19, 2008 08:41PM)
Eliterate !!!
Message: Posted by: olivertwist (Nov 19, 2008 08:51PM)
Harv has it exactly right! The best trick in magic is getting magicians to buy the latest incarnation of the got-to-have-trick, that is fully examinable, does miracles, and even vacuums your living room rug. The biggest suckers in magic are magicians.
Message: Posted by: rickmagic1 (Nov 19, 2008 09:08PM)
Elitist
Message: Posted by: The Great Danton (Nov 19, 2008 09:39PM)
Elixir. It's the elixir of life!!! Pablo's got it right.


haha.. maybe not.
Message: Posted by: JohnWells (Nov 19, 2008 10:42PM)
I have this awful sensation that come March my response will just be "oh. huh." Ive never seen anything really live up to its hype. I've seen a few exceed it, but in this case I have my doubts.
Message: Posted by: gaffed (Nov 19, 2008 10:56PM)
You've all got it wrong.

It's a "Toe Tip" for those occasions when you're on a beach and wish to do a wee bit of magic with your toes. (I honestly don't think that has been done before!)

Anyway, it will sell for $100.00 for the DVD and one toe tip included. (LARGE ONLY)
Any other size will be an extra $20.00.

Don't worry, at that price it will take at least 6 months before some prepubescent child is performing it on YouTube while sitting on his bed in front of his Web Cam.

~gaffed~ ;)
Message: Posted by: pepka (Nov 19, 2008 11:03PM)
I don't have another guess at this point. I'm just thinking that with a trip to Vegas, the Watchmen movie, and now Steve's secret project, March 2009 can't get here soon enough!
Message: Posted by: sleightofhander (Nov 19, 2008 11:38PM)
Elite Fly. One dream, many incarnations. The last coin is a hologram.
Message: Posted by: sokarnl (Nov 20, 2008 02:08AM)
Elite thumbtip, with gold and diamonds.
Message: Posted by: Colin Mandel (Nov 20, 2008 02:53AM)
Maybe it'll be cancelled at the last minute and we'll never know. Or maybe it's another cap in bottle. Either way, I don't really care that much. I'd be happy with my magic collection for the rest of my life.

Hey, now I realise why people say I'm a kill-joy.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Ray (Nov 20, 2008 05:49AM)
Well the JPS is J=no clue P=no clue S= Steve Brooks and then we just got to find out who are the best in something since that's what ELITE means right?
Message: Posted by: Jimeh (Nov 20, 2008 07:30AM)
[quote]
On 2008-11-20 00:03, pepka wrote:
I don't have another guess at this point. I'm just thinking that with a trip to Vegas, the Watchmen movie, and now Steve's secret project, March 2009 can't get here soon enough!
[/quote]

You're looking forward to the Watchmen movie too huh Pepka?
Very cool...
Message: Posted by: DaVinci (Nov 20, 2008 08:24AM)
It's the end of the world, cause with "ELIXIR" you can awaken deads. Many movies have forseen this scenario already.
Message: Posted by: Loyal R (Nov 20, 2008 09:38AM)
Its Look like ELIXIR like DaVinci said but it's also look like Elite
Message: Posted by: Steve Brooks (Nov 20, 2008 12:18PM)
Elixir? Nope. :smoke:
Message: Posted by: Nefesch (Nov 20, 2008 02:28PM)
ELITE
????

Nefesch
Message: Posted by: Nico Zottos (Nov 20, 2008 02:33PM)
Yeah I can definitely see elite in there. . .or maybe I don't :S
Message: Posted by: pkg (Nov 20, 2008 02:50PM)
Where are the "mentalists" :P
Message: Posted by: magic924 (Nov 20, 2008 05:52PM)
We're not allowed to answer :D
Message: Posted by: sourcerer (Nov 20, 2008 08:04PM)
I'm guessing another magic video network thingy.

Kaj
Message: Posted by: sourcerer (Nov 20, 2008 08:07PM)
Come to think of it - shouldn't there be a preorder page by now?

After all, 10 page threads about something in the distant future tend to come with a preorder page.

Kaj
ps. Oh yeah, I too thought 'elite' when I saw it.
I know, Elite Geek Magic - learn how to bang a silver nail up your nose and how to swallow swarowski crystal.
Message: Posted by: MagicMattMan (Nov 20, 2008 09:47PM)
[quote]
On 2008-11-20 06:49, Ben Lejmi wrote:
Well the JPS is J=no clue P=no clue S= Steve Brooks and then we just got to find out who are the best in something since that's what ELITE means right?
[/quote]

Um.....

J= Jason Palter P= Peter Loughan S= Steve Brooks

We've known this for a few pages now....

The new question is what makes their project "Elite"?
Message: Posted by: Peter Loughran (Nov 21, 2008 08:40AM)
Hey Guys,

Nope, no video network thingy!

I can tell you that while we wanted to have some fun and excitement with the release of this project, for a lot of you this 'hype' (as some of you call it) will be justified.

Will this project appeal to all of you in this thread? Probably not.

But we do believe that most of you will be SHOCKED when you see what we have been working on. And even if it isn't something that will interest you directly, it will be near impossible to not see the amazing historical acheivement in this project.

We feel this project will affect the entire magic community in a monumental way and interest the majority of the individual magicians themselves, but certainly not all of you (thats impossible).

I can tell you that there is no way we would waste thousands of dollars on this project, and thousands more on advertising simple puzzle peices in magic magazines and thousands of hours in putting this project together, if there wasn't a [b]valid[/b] reason behind it, or if it was for something that had already been done before!

This has [i]NEVER[/i] been done before!

Peter.
Message: Posted by: BRodgers (Nov 21, 2008 08:49AM)
I say its an old magic apparatus that was restored/updated and made usable in the modern world.
Message: Posted by: Perl (Nov 21, 2008 09:52AM)
I think that will be a historical recollections or renditions of the tricks houdini has done :] am I right? :]
the elite of the community so to say :]

perl
Message: Posted by: sourcerer (Nov 21, 2008 10:24AM)
A huge magic cross-reference...ohmygawd, they digitized Max Maven!

But seriously....'Elite' and a metal shiny 'classy' logo.

Could it be standard tricks in a less proppy looking way? Like high end versions of Tenyo tricks?

Or...another digital transmission/control device - heck could use the iPhone. Mentalism is still kinda the bandwagon, and two people involved are heavy on the remote electronics/programming side. The price of these gadgets could sure justify the time and money spent.

K
Message: Posted by: tdowell (Nov 21, 2008 12:52PM)
What was going on in magic in 1958???
Message: Posted by: Michael Peterson (Nov 21, 2008 01:46PM)
[quote]
On 2008-11-21 13:52, tdowell wrote:
What was going on in magic in 1958???
[/quote]

The Magician is a 1958 film written and directed by Ingmar Bergman. Its original Swedish title is Ansiktet, which means "face", and it was released theatrically as The Face in the UK, although video releases have used the U.S. title.

The film stars Max von Sydow as a traveling magician named Albert Vogler. Reading reports of a variety of supernatural disturbances at Vogler's prior performances abroad, the leading townspeople request that Vogler's troupe provide them a sample of their act, before allowing them public audiences. The scientifically-minded disbelievers try to expose them as charlatans, but Vogler has a few tricks up his sleeve.

The film was distantly inspired by G. K. Chesterton's play called Magic which Bergman claimed to be a favourite of his. Bergman actually staged a theatre production of "Magic" in Swedish at one point


;)

Mike
Message: Posted by: Steve Brooks (Nov 21, 2008 11:54PM)
[b]MagicMattMan[/b] said; "[i]The new question is what makes their project "Elite"?[/i]"

Answer: [b]Everything[/b]! :bwink:
Message: Posted by: The Mighty Fool (Nov 23, 2008 01:16AM)
"never been done before??" In the world of magic that's quite a sweeping statement.

Well....my personal HOPE is that it's some sort of.....something that allows you to lev more than 6 inches off the ground.

Or mabye a type of synthetic fire which dosent burn flesh, and can be held, thrown, twisted etc.

How about a remote-controll version of the time machine....someone else could actually hold it while they announced the time


Ooooor....since I'm just imagining here....some sort of 'memory foam' (like in "Batman begins") which is formless until a small electric charge is added and then it snaps into a solid form....ENDLESS magic possibilities!
Message: Posted by: Jason Palter (Nov 23, 2008 09:52AM)
Hello all:

Well it is my time to chime in here for a little bit and give my thoughts about our exciting project!

I’m sure that I can speak on behalf of Steve and Peter when we say that we are so flattered by all of the feedback and comments (positive and yes, negative too) that everyone has been giving! WOW! To generate this much excitement on something is not only a testament to all of the hard work that the 3 of us are putting into this project, but also to all of you for your enthusiasm for what is very-soon-to-come. So first let me say thank you for all of your thoughts, comments, flattery, and imaginations (I think that my favorite so far has to be the “memory foam” idea from The Mighty Fool; that truly would be AWESOME!)!!!!

I will secondly echo some of what Peter said, and that is that (a) we are committing huge amounts of time and money towards this; and (b) this has NEVER been done before. I would also like to add that very few people know what it is that we are working on. However, when those in the magic community (who do know) were finally told about it, they literally “flipped out”. One of them who is VERY WELL known in the magic community actually said that they thought that when it was up and running, that this project would be “go down in magic history” (I’m not sure if I think that it will be THAT big….but what the heck do I know! Lol). Needless to say, we are quite confident that this will do very well, and will receive great feedback—but still it was so nice for all of us to receive this affirmation from our colleagues in the magic community!

The project involves something that so many amateur and professional magicians would definitely say that they wanted for a very, very long time. I think the funny part will be when the project is finally revealed/released very soon: so many will make the connection to the first ad (“What the magic world has dreamed about for half a century”), and have one of those “I could have had a V-8” moments where they smack themselves on the forehead and make the connection back to that ad….lol

Like anything, this project will most certainly be affordable for some, and not for others. And as well like anything in this world, it won’t be for everyone…but we think that it WILL be for many! Our objective is to try to make this project appeal to amateurs and professionals, and I have no doubt that it will.

In regards to the secretive nature of this thread and the puzzle pieces…Well I think that for many of us we don’t like the “secret” part because we are magicians. Although we deal in “secrets” everyday of our lives, we don’t like being “fooled” or “teased” by others! Lol Anyhow, we made a conscious decision to market the project the way that we have, and as Peter said we think that this “hype” as some have referred to it as will be worth it in the end.

Thank you for your time and interest.

Best regards,

Jason Palter
Paltergeist Unlimited
(416) 410-5766
Message: Posted by: ted french (Nov 23, 2008 10:13AM)
My guess some type of lybrary or a way to research effects. I don't think it's a trick or a prop. I think the real tell is when peter say "historical".
Message: Posted by: Eric Simmatis (Nov 23, 2008 10:34AM)
[quote]
On 2008-11-23 11:13, ted french wrote:
My guess some type of lybrary or a way to research effects. I don't think it's a trick or a prop. I think the real tell is when peter say "historical".
[/quote]

I think it is going to be something very similar to that, but it will cost a lot of money to join...And I'm sure they will hold conventions for elite members...hmm.
Message: Posted by: Silvio Solaris (Nov 23, 2008 12:32PM)
[quote]
On 2008-11-23 11:34, Eric Simmatis wrote:
[quote]
On 2008-11-23 11:13, ted french wrote:
My guess some type of lybrary or a way to research effects. I don't think it's a trick or a prop. I think the real tell is when peter say "historical".
[/quote]

I think it is going to be something very similar to that, but it will cost a lot of money to join...And I'm sure they will hold conventions for elite members...hmm.
[/quote]

-and you might need 10,000 posts to join the secret forum. ;)
Message: Posted by: JHodgeCMI (Nov 23, 2008 04:08PM)
[quote]
On 2008-11-21 09:40, Peter Loughran wrote:
Hey Guys,

Nope, no video network thingy!

I can tell you that while we wanted to have some fun and excitement with the release of this project, for a lot of you this 'hype' (as some of you call it) will be justified.

Will this project appeal to all of you in this thread? Probably not.

But we do believe that most of you will be SHOCKED when you see what we have been working on. And even if it isn't something that will interest you directly, it will be near impossible to not see the amazing historical acheivement in this project.

We feel this project will affect the entire magic community in a monumental way and interest the majority of the individual magicians themselves, but certainly not all of you (thats impossible).

I can tell you that there is no way we would waste thousands of dollars on this project, and thousands more on advertising simple puzzle peices in magic magazines and thousands of hours in putting this project together, if there wasn't a [b]valid[/b] reason behind it, or if it was for something that had already been done before!

This has [i]NEVER[/i] been done before!

Peter.
[/quote]
Live streaming video of Valentino(aka The Masked Magician)being taken out by a Hitman?
Message: Posted by: Chris (Nov 23, 2008 04:11PM)
Well, if it is some kind of 'knowledge base' or search facility then it wouldn't be anything new or unprecedented. CARC is doing this for some time and we have just released a similar full text search integrated with a forum to exchange comments. Of course we think our implementation and content is better than anything that came before but I wouldn't claim it is something nobody has done before. That is always a dangerous claim to make.

In any case, it couldn't be anything like that. I think the "Secret" is more a teaching and mentoring platform.
Message: Posted by: Peter Loughran (Nov 23, 2008 06:20PM)
Our "Claim" isn't dangerous when it is true!

P.
Message: Posted by: Steve Brooks (Nov 24, 2008 03:50PM)
Okay everyone, we've decided to let our Café faithful in on a little information that the readers of MAGIC magazine won't learn for awhile. ;)

While I'm still not at liberty to discuss the full nature of the [i]SECRET[/i] project, I will tell you that [url=http://www.jpsmagic.com]JPS MAGIC STUDIOS LTD[/url] will debut the [i]SECRET[/i] project at the [url=http://www.theworldmagicseminar.com/]2009 World Magic Seminar[/url] which will be held at The Orleans Hotel & Casino [b]March 1st[/b] thru [b]4th[/b] 2009 in Las Vegas Nevada.

We will have a few surprises in store for everyone and it will be an event you don't want to miss!

By the way, you should be going anyway to see my buddy [url=http://www.bobself.com/rudycoby/]Rudy Coby[/url] perform - it's an act you'll soon not forget! :)

:smoke:
Message: Posted by: MagicByUriel (Nov 24, 2008 05:20PM)
I got it!

The ability to print your own customized playing cards on any stock you desire!

Look out Ellusionist, there's a new era of custom playing card coming!
Message: Posted by: Chris (Nov 24, 2008 07:26PM)
Peter, I am sure what you are working on will be quite interesting, but you assume you have universal knowledge. I think it would be more accurate to say that "by the best of your knowledge it is something nobody has done before".

Do you know everything that goes on here or abroad? Who knows, maybe somebody in Japan or in Germany or somewhere else has done something similar to what you are planning? I am just saying it sounds a bit pretentious to make such an absolute claim. Maybe it is really something nobody has done before - could be - but really nobody can say so until it is generally known what it is.
Message: Posted by: Steve Brooks (Nov 24, 2008 08:23PM)
Okay Chris,
to the [i]best[/i] of our knowledge, nobody has orchestrated what we are doing and certainly not to the extent or lengths we have went thru to make this a reality...we have spared no expense in this venture. :smoke:
Message: Posted by: Chris (Nov 24, 2008 08:49PM)
And I hope it will be a full success and advances magic the way we know it today.
Message: Posted by: The Mighty Fool (Nov 25, 2008 04:34AM)
Okay okay....the 'half a century' thing is a clue.....let's see....50 years....1958....what happened in '58? Harry Houdini dies? No, no...date's a little off .... Doug Henning exposed as Sally Field with a perm & a fake moustache? Nah
Message: Posted by: double_lift (Nov 25, 2008 05:46AM)
Did you guys finally figure out who Erdnase really was?

That'd be quite an achievement!
Message: Posted by: mayniac (Nov 25, 2008 02:32PM)
Oh no! Peter's involved. Ever since Rainmaker, Gravitate, Model Bottle, Elevator, Etc. I think I'll wait on this, um, thing.
Message: Posted by: Steve Brooks (Nov 25, 2008 02:46PM)
[b]mayniac[/b] said; "[i]Oh no! Peter's involved. Ever since Rainmaker, Gravitate, Model Bottle, Elevator, Etc. I think I'll wait on this, um, thing."[/i]

Wow, looks like you own a ton of Peter's effects, I wonder why anyone would continue purchasing item after item from someone who they obviously do not care for?

Since you'll be waiting on this '[i]SECRET[/i]' project, it is probably a good thing me thinks - it will leave more for the rest of us. :)

To everybody else, stay tuned for the next clue coming soon... :bwink:
Message: Posted by: Acecardician (Nov 25, 2008 08:18PM)
Did anyone guess Elite? I'm not up to re-reading 10 pages tonight!!!

This is getting more fun every day.

ACE, the stickman :dance:

http://s474.photobucket.com/albums/rr110/ChineseSticks/?albumview=slideshow

I just went back on page 10 and saw Elite, so okay...
Message: Posted by: mmreed (Nov 25, 2008 09:13PM)
I see the word elite as well
Message: Posted by: chichi711 (Nov 25, 2008 11:23PM)
Man I hope this doesn't take much longer. I just cant hold my breath anymore
Message: Posted by: Roger Kelly (Nov 26, 2008 03:36AM)
I just hope its worth the wait and comes in red back bikes!
Message: Posted by: sourcerer (Nov 26, 2008 10:53PM)
I got it figured out...it's a trick you can pick up girls with.

The magic world sure has dreamed about that for well over 50 years!

K
Message: Posted by: Dr. TORA (Nov 27, 2008 04:12AM)
I Think since it is a secret, nobody knows about it. Because if one person knows a thing it is a secret, if two people know a thing it is not a secret anymore ...
So we'd better wait until it is no longer a secret.
Message: Posted by: BScott8870 (Nov 27, 2008 11:09AM)
Is it a magic trick that makes real money from thin air?

That would truly be Elite!
Message: Posted by: Steve Brooks (Nov 29, 2008 01:03AM)
[b]Roger Kelly[/b] said; "[i]I just hope its worth the wait and comes in red back bikes![/i]"

This [i]SECRET[/i] project has been two years in the making and we believe it has been worth the wait thus far. Red back Bikes? Don't hold your breath. ;)
Message: Posted by: Tim Jahn (Nov 29, 2008 01:48AM)
The greatest thing about a secret is telling someone your secret. Thus adding a secret to thier secret collection of secrets, Secretly.

I've been scaning this thread for a while now. I hope we find out soon!

Tim
Message: Posted by: manreb (Nov 30, 2008 03:32PM)
I'll just wait for the masked magician to reveal it.


Joe
Message: Posted by: Steve Brooks (Dec 2, 2008 11:06AM)
The SECRET project is known to only a select few individuals - the masked loser is not one of them. :bwink:

[b]Tim Jahn[/b] said; "[i]I've been scaning this thread for a while now. I hope we find out soon![/i]"

Me too! I feel like a little kid at Christmas with a bunch of presents that all need to be opened. :lol:
Message: Posted by: Chris (Dec 2, 2008 03:20PM)
Steve, but you know the secret. So you should feel like Santa bringing it to us :-)
Message: Posted by: Steve Brooks (Dec 2, 2008 03:40PM)
You're absolutely correct Chris! I'm part of something extremely cool and exciting and yet because of legal agreements I am not at liberty to reveal all the details at this time - very frustrating! :nod:
Message: Posted by: Pete W. (Dec 3, 2008 07:18PM)
Hmmmm....waiting 50 years.
It must be a new SECRET revealed in the Kennedy assasination. That was ALMOST 50 years ago......(wasn't there a "magic bullet" theory?) THAT'S IT! I WIN!
Message: Posted by: Jason Palter (Dec 24, 2008 09:33AM)
Hello all:

I just wanted to let you know that the new piece of the puzzle has been revealed in the new issue of MAGIC, and also on http://www.jpsmagic.com. One more piece to go before the secret is out! Bwaaa ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!

And again we'd like to remind you to join Peter, Steve and I for the official debut at The World Magic Seminar March 1 - 4, at the Orleans Casino & Hotel in Las Vegas, Nevada. Hope to see you there!

Thank you for your time.

Best regards,

Jason Palter
Paltergeist Unlimited
(416) 410-5766
Message: Posted by: silverking (Dec 24, 2008 02:45PM)
"Elite" [i]is[/i] a noun, but unfortunately it's not the kind of noun that actually describes anything.

How about a [i]real[/i] clue?
Message: Posted by: Steve Brooks (Dec 26, 2008 04:33PM)
Clues? This topic is full of them! :)
Message: Posted by: Michael J. Douglas (Dec 28, 2008 01:33AM)
[quote]...You'll always want two of each; one to perform and one to collect.[/quote]

That sounds like there's more than one size/design/etc. of whatever this darn thing is, or that more sizes/designs/etc. will be forthcoming. And if you're like me, this is exactly what I do with playing cards....one to perform [with] and one to collect....and if I'm remembering correctly, there was some "box" comment somewhere on a previous page. Did a certain design or make of playing cards go kaput 50 years ago?
Message: Posted by: Douglas Lippert (Dec 28, 2008 01:53AM)
My guess is that it will be a new website selling "elite" tricks. Nothing wrong with that but why the long wait?
Message: Posted by: tdowell (Dec 28, 2008 02:57AM)
I love how we get to wait another two months to figure out the obvious word...ELITE!!!! LOL. Sorry I lost interest last month. ZZZZZzzzzzzzzz......

"Elite", "Elite", blah blah blah. Please tell me there are some secret words in 8 pt. type for the last pieces. Wake me when there is something I need to know. Sheesh. Sorry, I'm tired and extremely bored of this thread, the ad, and HYPE.

Sounds to me the best thing in 50 years is Paul Harris' new DVD Astonishment Project.
Message: Posted by: Michael J. Douglas (Dec 28, 2008 03:37AM)
This thread is not required reading, tdowell. Either you [i]didn't[/i] lose interest last month, or you like to torture yourself by reading such a boring thread, or you just want to complain. :rolleyes:
Message: Posted by: Slim King (Dec 28, 2008 08:18AM)
What's this all about anyway?
Message: Posted by: Marc Frese (Dec 28, 2008 08:49AM)
[quote]
On 2008-12-28 02:53, DVLKCC wrote:
My guess is that it will be a new website selling "elite" tricks. Nothing wrong with that but why the long wait?
[/quote]

To drum up business!!!
To push the hype!!!!
I'm sick and tired!
For me is this waste of time!
You'll know it when it happens!!!!


Poor sales policy!
But this is only my opinion!
I didn't mean to hurt anybody.
Message: Posted by: MagicMattMan (Dec 28, 2008 11:16AM)
[quote]
On 2008-12-28 02:33, Michael J. Douglas wrote:
[quote]...You'll always want two of each; one to perform and one to collect.[/quote]

That sounds like there's more than one size/design/etc. of whatever this darn thing is, or that more sizes/designs/etc. will be forthcoming. And if you're like me, this is exactly what I do with playing cards....one to perform [with] and one to collect....and if I'm remembering correctly, there was some "box" comment somewhere on a previous page. Did a certain design or make of playing cards go kaput 50 years ago?
[/quote]

I agree. When a special/cool design comes out for a regular deck of cards, I always buy two. One to put away and one to look at/ perform with.
Message: Posted by: pkg (Jan 2, 2009 11:40AM)
For 50 years only?
Message: Posted by: Perl (Jan 3, 2009 12:56PM)
The berglas effect!
Message: Posted by: pkg (Jan 3, 2009 05:46PM)
Floating water!!!!
Message: Posted by: Perl (Jan 5, 2009 08:27AM)
A floating berglas effect!
Message: Posted by: Allan Olive (Jan 6, 2009 09:49AM)
[quote]
On 2008-11-29 02:48, Tim Jahn wrote:
The greatest thing about a secret is telling someone your secret. Thus adding a secret to thier secret collection of secrets, Secretly.

I've been scaning this thread for a while now. I hope we find out soon!

Tim
[/quote]


I think this is the exact quote Sponge Bob made to Patrik when he wanted to see the secret he had in his little box. (Turned out to be a just a piece of string) Hope that's not prophetic. :)

See what you retain with young kids!
Message: Posted by: jprace (Jan 6, 2009 04:57PM)
We've known it was 'Elite' for a while now. We want something new!
Message: Posted by: Steve Brooks (Jan 19, 2009 10:34PM)
Something new? ;)

I hope you are all ready...It's almost time...to reveal...
Message: Posted by: Jason Palter (Jan 20, 2009 06:09AM)
Hello all:

Steve, you beat me to it; I was just about to post and tell everyone the same thing! Steve is correct.....stand by everyone, the final piece of the puzzle is about to be revealed, and you can then all see what Steve, Peter Loughran and I have been working on!

Best regards,

Jason Palter
Paltergeist Unlimited
(416) 410-5766
Message: Posted by: goldeneye007 (Jan 20, 2009 06:39AM)
I haven't slept for the past days thinking about this... ;)
Ok, maybe I have a little... :)
Message: Posted by: Steve Brooks (Jan 24, 2009 01:07PM)
The [i]FINAL[/i] piece of the puzzle has been revealed! [url=http://www.jpsmagic.com]Click Here![/url] :)
Message: Posted by: jprace (Jan 24, 2009 01:11PM)
Tenyo tricks that aren't in plastic!? SWEET!
Message: Posted by: Steve Brooks (Jan 24, 2009 01:16PM)
You can access the OFFICIAL [b]Tenyo Elite[/b] site by going [url=http://www.tenyoelite.com]Here![/url] :nod:
Message: Posted by: Jonathan Townsend (Jan 24, 2009 01:18PM)
Do they finally come with examinable non-gaffed dupes so we can hand out the props and leave then on our shelves?
Message: Posted by: Jay Buchanan (Jan 24, 2009 01:18PM)
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

this is going to cost me! :lol:

wow!
Message: Posted by: mballen11502 (Jan 24, 2009 01:25PM)
Nice!
Message: Posted by: magicmanfrank (Jan 24, 2009 01:34PM)
Wow!

Someone FINALLY decided to do this!

Very Cool!!!

=Frank=
Message: Posted by: Nathan Pain (Jan 24, 2009 01:39PM)
I love tenyo stuff...

Nathan
Message: Posted by: magicmann (Jan 24, 2009 01:40PM)
These look great I would be interested to know the prices


Paul
Message: Posted by: Douglas Lippert (Jan 24, 2009 01:55PM)
Best of luck in your new endeavor Steve, Jason and Peter!

Look forward to the rest of your lineup.

Doug Lippert
Message: Posted by: pegasus (Jan 24, 2009 01:56PM)
The Blue Crystal illusion is amazing. I don't have it but I purchased 2 A4 sheets of the raw holographic material from grand illusions. I framed mine. There is a short demo vid to view. [url=http://www.grand-illusions.com/cgi-bin/sh000001.pl5?REFPAGE=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2egrand%2dillusions%2ecom%2facatalog%2fMagic_Tricks%2ehtml&WD=film%203d&PN=2_Sheets_of_3D_Film%2ehtml%23a12#a12]Click Here![/url]
Message: Posted by: kihei kid (Jan 24, 2009 02:00PM)
Awesome!!!

It’s about time somebody did this!

You had me fooled (pun intended) as to what it was.

Congratulations Steve, Jason and Peter. Job well done and MAJOR kudos.

I love Tenyo stuff and I am looking forward to purchasing some of these effects.
Message: Posted by: magicofCurtis (Jan 24, 2009 02:02PM)
Okay....

Does anyone feel like a sucker following this for months to end it with a sales ad?
This reminds me of the Christmas Story when the boy got his secret decoder and that night on the radio the secret message was an AD for a product that sponsored the radio sow! ehehe
Message: Posted by: tuffnavyrn (Jan 24, 2009 02:02PM)
This is definitely a breath of fresh air for Tenyo collectors.
Message: Posted by: Epiphany (Jan 24, 2009 02:09PM)
Congratulations! This has been worth the wait. I know Dad is looking foward to adding these pieces to his Tenyo collection.

Epiphany Jean
Message: Posted by: Magiguy (Jan 24, 2009 02:15PM)
Very cool!! I may have to take a second job.
Message: Posted by: Steve Brooks (Jan 24, 2009 02:44PM)
[b]magicofCurtis[/b] said; "[i]Does anyone feel like a sucker following this for months to end it with a sales ad?[/i]"

Wow, sorry you feel that way, but that's what the [b]Latest and Greatest?[/b] forum is all about. You know, letting folks know about new stuff?

While we realize this new line is not for everyone, we are confident in our belief that for most this is exciting news indeed. :)
Message: Posted by: Gilgamesh_The_Librarian (Jan 24, 2009 02:55PM)
Well this is really great news.

Steve, do you have plans for other Tenyo items in the near future, there are some crackers out there that I know people have been clamouring to have "elited".

Gosh this is one reveal that hasn't been an anti-climax - great job guys.
Message: Posted by: pegasus (Jan 24, 2009 02:57PM)
I agree, Steve, tenyo rocks. Not good for my wallet though, as a collector.
Message: Posted by: AltonThrash (Jan 24, 2009 02:57PM)
Was the mechanical version of Paul Harris' Twilight a Tenyo product? I can't recall. I had it ages ago and always hoped that someday there would be a non plastic version of it. It was a beautifully functional product except it was plastic. Hats off to the Elite crew. Great idea.
Message: Posted by: Jay Buchanan (Jan 24, 2009 03:34PM)
[quote]
On 2009-01-24 15:02, magicofCurtis wrote:
Okay....

Does anyone feel like a sucker following this for months to end it with a sales ad?

[/quote]

Not even a little bit! :)
This is awesome on so many levels!
Message: Posted by: truthteller (Jan 24, 2009 03:45PM)
[quote]
On 2009-01-24 15:57, AltonThrash wrote:
Was the mechanical version of Paul Harris' Twilight a Tenyo product? I can't recall. I had it ages ago and always hoped that someday there would be a non plastic version of it. It was a beautifully functional product except it was plastic.
[/quote]

It was a Tenyo product and it was called Eclipse.

This is an interesting idea - but I fear it may still by two steps to the left of actually fulfilling what many of us have wanted all these years.

Keeping an open mind. Interested to see how it will pan out.

Brad Henderson
Message: Posted by: Steve Brooks (Jan 24, 2009 03:47PM)
[b]Gilgamesh_The_Librarian[/b] said; "[i]Steve, do you have plans for other Tenyo items in the near future, there are some crackers out there that I know people have been clamouring to have "Elited"[/i]"

The answer is [i]YES![/i]. [url=http://www.jpsmagic.com]JPS MAGIC STUDIOS LTD[/url] will be producing a slew of Tenyo items (many which are currently difficult to obtain) over the coming years and Jason, Peter and I are proud to be involved in such a monumental endeavor. :yippee:
Message: Posted by: jprace (Jan 24, 2009 03:50PM)
And the prices?
Message: Posted by: Steve Brooks (Jan 24, 2009 03:54PM)
We are still finishing up several small details and will announce the suggested retail pricing in the near future - stand by. ;)
Message: Posted by: tdowell (Jan 24, 2009 04:23PM)
Nice, I am really looking forward to this! I can't wait for Elite versions of Prison Box and Crystal Cleaver!!!!!!
Message: Posted by: Andi Peters (Jan 24, 2009 04:36PM)
I'd like to see some wood.

Fortune sticks in wood would be awesome!!!
Message: Posted by: VcosNJ (Jan 24, 2009 04:51PM)
This looks cool. Hope the prices are just right. This year already started bad for me with magic purchases, but I'm not complaining. :)
Message: Posted by: Eddie Garland (Jan 24, 2009 05:21PM)
Congrats Jason, Peter and Steve!!!
I know you three worked very hard for this and it is VERY COOL!
Message: Posted by: natmagic (Jan 24, 2009 05:36PM)
Wow - following this has been like waiting for that magic trick you ordered over the internet to arrive, with all the hype surrounding the latest and greatest thing to change magic (isn't that what all the adverts say these days!) and then when it finally arrives .... (fill in your own feelings here)
Message: Posted by: gaffed (Jan 24, 2009 05:53PM)
I remember years ago ('90, '91?) when Tenyo came out with the Zig-Zag cigarette (plastic of course)and it was a pretty nifty effect. (Can't for the life of me find the one I had)

I recall one magician who frequented Magic Inc. here in Chicago and loved it so much he had a tool maker make him one out of solid brass! The thing was [i]beautiful[/i] and cost him hundreds of dollars to have it made as it was somewhat of a intricate mechanism. Any chance of that coming out again in metal Steve?

~gaffed~
Message: Posted by: chrusa (Jan 24, 2009 05:54PM)
Wow what an aweosme concept it is obvious what JPS Magic has done here and basically answer all the people over the years who have said tenyo stuff is awesome but its plastic!

As far as what Mr Curtis said "Does anyone feel like a sucker following this for months to end it with a sales ad?
This reminds me of the Christmas Story when the boy got his secret decoder and that night on the radio the secret message was an AD for a product that sponsored the radio sow! ehehe"


Well we all knew it was a sales ad! It was a new product that was coming out and people were talking about purchasing it. So no cover up or let down there.

Congrat's guys and thanks for listening to us over the years!
Message: Posted by: Review King (Jan 24, 2009 06:15PM)
[quote]
On 2009-01-24 18:36, natmagic wrote:
Wow - following this has been like waiting for that magic trick you ordered over the internet to arrive, with all the hype surrounding the latest and greatest thing to change magic (isn't that what all the adverts say these days!) and then when it finally arrives .... (fill in your own feelings here)
[/quote]

They made it into a fun game. Life is serious enough these days, so we all need to lighten up. This lightened us up a bit.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Mystoffelees (Jan 24, 2009 06:30PM)
"This reminds me of the Christmas Story when the boy got his secret decoder and that night on the radio the secret message was an AD for a product that sponsored the radio sow! ehehe"

Rather the same reaction here "Son of a !@#$%!!!!!

Jim
Message: Posted by: Jason Palter (Jan 24, 2009 07:04PM)
Hello all:

I can't even tell you how excited Steve, Peter and I are about the new line. We have been working like crazy, and dying to tell people about it. Well the secret is finally out, and judging by your comments, most of you are reacting in the positive way that we had hoped! One of our goals for this new line was to give working pros (like Peter, Steve and I) the opportunity to actually PERFORM Tenyo items for audiences, and not be concerned that perhaps they may not take the trick seriously because they were made of plastic. The Tenyo tricks are so brilliant and clever, and they fool laypeople and almost every magician as well. We will be doing the same with the "Tenyo Elite" items.

We are so happy to have this opportunity! "Tenyo Elite" is not just a few tricks, but rather a BRAND NEW LINE that will provide what so many in the magic community have been wanting for many decades. We are quite sure that you will be very pleased with these new tricks.

We know Peter will respond as well very soon, but he is just on vacation this weekend.

Keep the questions and thoughts coming! Thank you for your time.

Best regards,

Jason Palter
Paltergeist Unlimited
(416) 410-5766
Message: Posted by: Geoff Weber (Jan 24, 2009 07:23PM)
Brass Krazy Keys please!
Message: Posted by: Robert M (Jan 24, 2009 08:22PM)
Fantastic! There is definitely a market for deluxe versions of all the ingenious Tenyo tricks. My favorites are "Invisible Zone" and the Jumbo Zig Zag Card trick - can't remember the name! Also, the Zig Zag Cigarette.

Robert
Message: Posted by: mrmuji (Jan 24, 2009 09:30PM)
[quote]
On 2009-01-24 21:22, Robert M wrote:
My favorites are "Invisible Zone"


[/quote]

Yep, one of my favourite is also invisible zone. The first tenyo trick I bought was the Burglar Ball (not sure if the name is right) but it's the clear plastic box with a shiney pink ball where you wrap it will the rubberband and make the ball push through.

Another one is a gold washer come off from the red string nad pearl ball while it's in the box during an up and down shake motion. I can't remember the name but its was my second Tenyo trick. I still miss is after losing some bits :(
Message: Posted by: Kjellstrom (Jan 24, 2009 09:59PM)
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Message: Posted by: Kjellstrom (Jan 24, 2009 10:03PM)
I would like to see my first Tenyo trick made in Elite Style: SQUEZZE PLAY - great effect. A very good effect.
Message: Posted by: gaffed (Jan 24, 2009 10:07PM)
Well admittedly I'm not all that big of a Tenyo fan. It seems as though years ago they would come out with something new about every six months or so. Aside from it being plastic and very "gimmicky" looking I would venture to say, in my opinion, that most of it was junk even if it were not made of plastic. However there were occasions on which they came out with some good concepts but again, the gimmicky looking plastic issue.

I hope the "Elite" team, as it were, takes the time to look over those that have some good merit and turn them into high quality items albeit there is a very good chance I'll not be purchasing any unless something [i]really[/i] turns my head.

Yes, I'll admit that after all of this hype I was a tad disappointed to find out that it's just all a rehash of old Tenyo tricks but yet I find it a good idea in someways. Time will be the true test.

[quote] tdowell wrote: Nice, I am really looking forward to this! I can't wait for Elite versions of Prison Box and Crystal Cleaver[/quote]

Is Crystal Box the trick that involved a clear plastic box and a ring inside that was penetrated by a small sword/knife when pushed downwards? If so, that indeed was a very cute little concept and one that I only have a few pieces of after all these years. Anyway, good luck to the "Elite" team and I wish you all the best of luck on your new endeavor!

~gaffed~ ;)
Message: Posted by: Tom Cutts (Jan 25, 2009 01:57AM)
[quote]
On 2009-01-24 16:45, truthteller wrote:

This is an interesting idea - but I fear it may still by two steps to the left of actually fulfilling what many of us have wanted all these

Brad Henderson
[/quote]
Why the doubt? Do you think JPS can't deliver?

Is there a disconect between "wait and see" and " doubt"?
Message: Posted by: truthteller (Jan 25, 2009 02:08AM)
Do I think JPS can deliver?

I have no idea on that account.

My issue is a larger one - a conceptual one.

There are at least two directions this product line can go. Based on the 4 examples on the website, I feel that direction may still be two steps left of what a lot of magicians - myself included - have desired over the years.

But I don't want to judge an entire line on just 4 products. So - I'll wait . . . and see.

Brad Henderson
Message: Posted by: tdowell (Jan 25, 2009 02:14AM)
[quote]
On 2009-01-25 03:08, truthteller wrote:
Do I think JPS can deliver?

I have no idea on that account.

My issue is a larger one - a conceptual one.

There are at least two directions this product line can go. Based on the 4 examples on the website, I feel that direction may still be two steps left of what a lot of magicians - myself included - have desired over the years.

But I don't want to judge an entire line on just 4 products. So - I'll wait . . . and see.

Brad Henderson
[/quote]

What on earth is this guy talking about?? "I have no idea on that account"???? The issue is a "conceptual one"??? "Two steps left"??? LOL. :lol:

Its not that important man...its just Tenyo. No gold or silver. Just anodized aluminum and Tenyo, that's it. Its not economic stimulus or world peace. Nope, just Tenyo.

Earth to Brad, EARTH TO BRAD!!!! COME DOWN BRAD!!!!! :lol:
Message: Posted by: Steve Brooks (Jan 25, 2009 02:30AM)
It's really not Brad's fault, he probably hasn't considered the notion that TENYO in Japan just might have the [i]final[/i] say on what [i]is[/i] allowed and what is [i]not[/i]. :bwink:
Message: Posted by: truthteller (Jan 25, 2009 02:32AM)
[quote]
On 2009-01-25 03:14, tdowell wrote:


Just anodized aluminum and Tenyo, that's it.
[/quote]

I'm glad you see the problem the same way I do.
Message: Posted by: truthteller (Jan 25, 2009 02:33AM)
[quote]
On 2009-01-25 03:30, Steve Brooks wrote:
It's really not Brad's fault, he probably hasn't considered the notion that TENYO in Japan just might have the [i]final[/i] say on what [i]is[/i] allowed and what is [i]not[/i]. :bwink:
[/quote]

I am sure you are working under limitations. And I have considered it.

But that doesn't change my concern/interest.

Like I said, I am curious as to the direction the line takes. Could be great, Could be . . . well, tdowell said it best.
Message: Posted by: Matthew Wright (Jan 25, 2009 05:08AM)
I have said for years (as have many) that I wished TENYO were made of better quality materials and was quite excited to finally find out what the secret project was. A little more thought however has thrown up a big concern. Original TENYO products are aimed primarily at the pocket money market and so are in the hands of many kids. There is no way I can risk pulling out a prop at a paid gig and having someone say "Oh, that is just like the trick my 7 year old does". No matter how professional the prop looks and how well it is presented, it is still the same trick.
For hobbyists I think it is a great idea but I just cannot see me using one. Having said that, if crystal cleaver comes out I may have to change my mind.
Message: Posted by: Angelo Carbone (Jan 25, 2009 08:19AM)
Wonderful news. As a big Tenyo admirer and collector, I look forward to the new products released.

Some Tenyo that I would love to see in the Elite Range:

Metal Krazy Keys
Wooden ornate old looking Crystal Pyramid
Ninja Experiment
Jumbo Wooden Illusion Scale
Wooden Mini-Morphosis ;)
Metal Prison Box ;)

Angelo.
Message: Posted by: Tom Cutts (Jan 25, 2009 09:47AM)
[quote]
On 2009-01-25 06:08, matthew wright wrote:
There is no way I can risk pulling out a prop at a paid gig and having someone say "Oh, that is just like the trick my 7 year old does". No matter how professional the prop looks and how well it is presented, it is still the same trick.
[/quote]I see this more along the lines of Linking Rings, Cups and Balls, and Cut and Restored Rope. Something about the performer tells the audience this is different... professional. The difference is not the prop, the guitar, the pan, etc.
Message: Posted by: Robert M (Jan 25, 2009 10:03AM)
Anodized aluminum is a good choice for many of these tricks - the Zig Zag Cigarette, for example.

But, please consider using wood and brass, as well.

Robert
Message: Posted by: Matthew Wright (Jan 25, 2009 11:51AM)
[quote]
On 2009-01-25 10:47, Tom Cutts wrote:
[quote]
On 2009-01-25 06:08, matthew wright wrote:
There is no way I can risk pulling out a prop at a paid gig and having someone say "Oh, that is just like the trick my 7 year old does". No matter how professional the prop looks and how well it is presented, it is still the same trick.
[/quote]I see this more along the lines of Linking Rings, Cups and Balls, and Cut and Restored Rope. Something about the performer tells the audience this is different... professional. The difference is not the prop, the guitar, the pan, etc.
[/quote]

I disagree Tom,
You can spend years working on cups, rings etc to make an individual mind-blowing routine. The tenyo products are very different. They are designed to be simple and to be used (almost as toys) straight from the box. The trick is exactly the same whether it is performed by a seven year old in plastic or an adult in metal.
I don't want to knock this new range. I think Tenyo make some genius tricks and that the Elite range will do very well and at 99% of performances will be fine. I just don't want to be seen performing the kind of tricks your kids could do. I use the same reasoning with E products. They too have some great stuff out but far too many hobby kids doing them (badly) to be used in a professional environment.
Message: Posted by: dfield (Jan 25, 2009 01:12PM)
Have to agree with Matthew. I am sure the products will be lovely and for magicians who want to perform the same tricks kids can buy in any toy shop then this is nice. Maybe this is good for collectors of nicely made prop tricks but not for working magicians! I own a few Tenyo items, but would never dream of using them professionally knowing kids can do these out of the box. If I did it I couldn't charge the fees I do for close-up magic. You could make these out of 24 carrot gold and it still wouldn't make a difference.
I am sure there is a market for this type of magic and wish all of you the best of luck - obviously it's a good money making business otherwise you wouldn't have bothered with it - must be a market out there - just not for me as a working professional.
Message: Posted by: Jay Are (Jan 25, 2009 02:02PM)
Wow guys...

working pro (which I am) or not...

magic and the collecting of effects should still be a part of the love for this art.

I recently aquired most of the plastic tenyo "magic works" line. not to perform but to collect! I wouldnt dream of using them in a performance...

but they are fun; and I love em! and one day the will maKe a killer introduction to magic for my kids!

lighten up everyone, this is a great opportunity for the collector, not the performer.
Message: Posted by: Anders Moden (Jan 25, 2009 03:21PM)
Congratulations for doing this!

My personal request would be "TRANSPA VISION" aka "Illusionarium", although I see it would be a hassle to make.

http://www.tenyoworld.co.uk/Tenyogallery2/Transpavsn.jpg
Message: Posted by: Jonathan Townsend (Jan 25, 2009 03:55PM)
[quote]
On 2009-01-25 15:02, Jay Are wrote:... a killer introduction to magic for my kids!

lighten up everyone, this is a great opportunity for the collector, not the performer.
[/quote]

Yup, an education in "good idea / bad idea" in every item and an almost certain "boys and their toys" reaction ready when you want it. Not a bad way to learn magic - take the items one at a time as lessons for the student.
Message: Posted by: Tom Cutts (Jan 25, 2009 03:55PM)
[quote]
On 2009-01-25 12:51, matthew wright wrote
The trick is exactly the same whether it is performed by a seven year old in plastic or an adult in metal.
[/quote]It is OK to disagree, and I have to catagorically disagree with you. Magic history shows us that a real performer can take a plastic "kid's magic" prop and absolutely kill with it. Yeah, if you don't think beyond "out of the box" routines, you will never differentiate yourself from anyone else doing generic presentations.

Given the added durability and, well yeah, class of metalic props, more creative pros will be using these props to transcend their plastic parent's performances. This project should also give access to props either unavailable or sadly over priced for many due to collectibility.
Message: Posted by: Greg Rostami (Jan 25, 2009 04:09PM)
[quote]
On 2009-01-24 20:23, Geoff Weber wrote:
Brass Krazy Keys please!
[/quote]BRASS KRAZY KEYS . . . PLEASE!!!!
Message: Posted by: Greg Rostami (Jan 25, 2009 04:12PM)
BRASS KRAZY KEYS . . . PLEASE!!!!

PLEASE!
PLEEEEASE!!
PRETTY PLEASE WITH SUGAR ON TOP!!!!!!

Thank you so much Steven, Peter & Jason. I will be the first one in line for many of your Tenyo Elite items.

Greg Rostami
Message: Posted by: Jonathan Townsend (Jan 25, 2009 04:15PM)
Tom - our history shows a real performer can take a circle of felt or an acordian of paper and kill with it. So no tricky props needed at all if you want to argue that way.

But as to taking out one's box of toys... well that can go over as nostalgiac - or not so well as a prop-comic sort of thing like an advertisement for clever muggle magic shop items which may as well have a pricetag attached. Guess there's a Hee Haw reference for folks who remember.
Message: Posted by: Angelo Carbone (Jan 25, 2009 04:23PM)
[quote]
On 2009-01-25 06:08, matthew wright wrote:
Original TENYO products are aimed primarily at the pocket money market and so are in the hands of many kids. There is no way I can risk pulling out a prop at a paid gig and having someone say "Oh, that is just like the trick my 7 year old does".
[/quote]

Hi Matthew!

I am confused by your comment above. You say that you would never do a trick that looks like your 7 year old would do. The only place the general public can buy Tenyo tricks is in Japan where they are sold in generic toy stores. As far as I know the only place you can buy Tenyo tricks in the US or Europe is from a magic dealer. Therefore I doubt you would ever get a comment saying so.

How different are these Tenyo tricks different from standard magicians' props?

Magicians use paddle sticks, brass bill tubes, coin boxes, toy clear cars (Tamariz), production boxes, colorful tubes etc. Aren't these 'natural' :) looking props just as out of the ordinary as some Tenyo props?

Magic is not all about doing magic with everyday objects. Its about the experience and effect. A magician is a special person and will no doubt use special artefact (props).

If there is a market for unnatural looking props in a magician's repertoire, I think there is also a market for the Elite range of Tenyo.

Just my thoughts.

Best wishes,

Angelo.
Message: Posted by: Andi Peters (Jan 25, 2009 04:42PM)
[quote]
On 2009-01-24 17:23, tdowell wrote:
Nice, I am really looking forward to this! I can't wait for Elite versions of Prison Box and Crystal Cleaver!!!!!!
[/quote]
The idea of upgrading Tenyo tricks has already been done!!!

Check out Crystal Cleaver here...

https://www.thetrickery.com/?nd=reviews&search_realsku=8670&search_keywords=fordisplay
Message: Posted by: tdowell (Jan 25, 2009 05:13PM)
[quote]
On 2009-01-25 17:42, Andi Peters wrote:
[quote]
On 2009-01-24 17:23, tdowell wrote:
Nice, I am really looking forward to this! I can't wait for Elite versions of Prison Box and Crystal Cleaver!!!!!!
[/quote]
The idea of upgrading Tenyo tricks has already been done!!!

Check out Crystal Cleaver here...

https://www.thetrickery.com/?nd=reviews&search_realsku=8670&search_keywords=fordisplay
[/quote]

I own Sword of the Ring by Magic Wagon and it is not an upgrade or improvement of the original. Don't get me wrong, Sword of the Ring is a nice piece and beautiful. It presents the same effect, but, unlike Tenyo's Crystal Cleaver, it can not be examined and requires the gimmick be set manually.

Tenyo's version, while plastic, is still superior in design and stealth.
Message: Posted by: Matthew Wright (Jan 26, 2009 03:31AM)
Hi Angelo!
First let me repeat my earlier posts. I think that there will be a huge market for the Elite range and it will do very well. I think Tenyo use some very clever thinking (including your own work). Some of my very first pieces of magic were Tenyo. When my nephew asked for some magic for Christmas I bought him Tenyo, a freind who works in a magic shop would often recommend tenyo to people with little or no experience in magic because they are well made, relativley simple to operate and are a great introduction to the world of magic and this is where my problem lies.
Every magician has their own vision of what magic is or should be. My own is that a magician is a figure of great power and mystery and that is the vision I work hard to put across to my audience. My own opinion is that I would rather not run the risk of diminishing that sense of mystery by performing a trick where there is the possibility (however slim) that a guest at a party can turn around and say that their child (nephew or whatever) performs that same trick. I also do not think that it gives a good impression to the booker who has spent hundreds of pounds to have me there.
I totally agree with your points about mysterious props in magic although, by some curious chance, I have non of the props you mentioned!
I am sure that performers will come up with some wonderful presentations for these props and really make them work for them. It is just my own personal choice not to use them pprofessionally, just as I choose not to use a sven or stripper deck (even if it's a nice Tally deck)
Perhaps I have been looking for a cloud for this silver lining and I seem to have upset one or two. I am sorry for that.

Looking forward to your International lecture!
Best wishes,
Matt
Message: Posted by: Douglas Lippert (Jan 26, 2009 03:58AM)
[quote]
On 2009-01-25 17:23, Angelo M Carbone wrote:

If there is a market for unnatural looking props in a magician's repertoire, I think there is also a market for the Elite range of Tenyo.

Best wishes,

Angelo.
[/quote]

Angelo is biased!! He created a trick for Tenyo a while back. LOL, I'm just joking.


Can't wait to see what is in store from us!
Message: Posted by: GarySumpter (Jan 26, 2009 06:09AM)
Good idea, but looking at the photos, they are far from 'elite', unless I am missing something?

Gary
Message: Posted by: Angelo Carbone (Jan 26, 2009 07:55AM)
Hi Matt!

Thanks for you reply.

Sure it would not be a good idea to do magic solely consisting of Tenyo or odd looking props, but in the right context or at the right moment for a particular crowd, a posher version of a Tenyo trick has its place.

You have every right to use the material you want and have some valid reasons why. I was just a little confused with your comment because kids can't buy Tenyo tricks from say Toys R Us or other toy shops etc.

Best wishes and see you at the lecture. Thanks for choosing to come. :)

Angelo
Message: Posted by: Jason Palter (Jan 26, 2009 08:33AM)
Hello all:

GarySumpter, I'm sure you were just teasing with your comment, but you do bring up a good point: If you are not familiar with the originals (and also have not seen our new editions), it can be difficult to see the differences in the photos. However this is why we put down some of the selling "features" in the descriptions.

For example, at first blush, the picture of our edition of "Moonspinner" really doesn't look that much different from the photo beside it of Tenyo's original (and long-unavailable, by the way). But let me assure you that to look at them both in real-life, and especially to hold them both, there are MANY differences:
[list]
[*]The Tenyo Elite edition is NOT made of plastic, but rather anodized aluminum.
[*]The Tenyo Eilte edition has a very nice weight to it.
[*]The Tenyo Elite edition comes with a hand-crafted case (that you can actually use in part of the trick).
[*]The hypnotic pattern on the original is only a paper sticker. The hypnotic pattern on the Elite version is actually laser etched into the aluminum and will not come off.
[*]Quite simply, the Tenyo Elite edition feels and looks much more robust, and like a "professional prop".
[/list]
What I'm trying to say is to please keep in mind that in some cases, the photos (and the photo comparisons) do not do the Tenyo Elite editions justice. Again, this is especially true if you are not familiar with ours or the Tenyo original pieces.

One of the reasons that we put the photos on the [url=http://www.tenyoelite.com]official Tenyo Elite website[/url] was to honor the original Tenyo pieces, and also to attempt to give a photo "realization" of the differences. But like many things in life, you've just "gotta see it and feel it" to appreciate the quality, and you will be able to do this very soon when the items go on sale.

While amateurs and collectors will of course enjoy this new line, Tenyo Elite, we think that "professionals" will most certainly get a lot of use out of them. The Tenyo products are amazing, and Peter, Steve and I love them! However for years many have wanted them constructed in more "robust" materials for their audiences, and that is what we have done. The 3 of us are professional performers and we really wanted to be more "comfortable" performing Tenyo items at our paid gigs........so now this will be facilitated a little more "easily" with the Tenyo Elite line.

We are still working out the final pricing details. Again, because one of our target markets are the performing magicians, these are intended to be affordable for this group. While the prices will be "Elite", they will not be unreasonable at all. Like anything in life, you will get what you pay for, but our intention is to certainly make the retail prices affordable.

We will be debuting these at the World Magic Seminar in Las Vegas, March 1-4, and we hope to have them on sale within a couple of months after that. So if you are attending the convention, we hope to see you there at our booth!

Please let us know if you have any questions. Thank you so much for your time.

Best regards,

Jason Palter
Paltergeist Unlimited
(416) 410-5766
Message: Posted by: Peter Loughran (Jan 26, 2009 01:26PM)
Hello all.

As for Brad's comments, I think I understand what he is try to say but its not very fair without seeing them in person first. Keep in mind that not all of the products will be metal. We do have plans to use wood, brass and other materials for future projects. Also the pictures do not do them justice, they are much different seen in person. We urge you Brad to join us at the World Magic Seminar so you can see the difference for yourself.

Also the plan is to release 4-6 new items every year just like Tenyo does now.

The props DO NOT feel or look like toys anymore in their new form trust me. Although take Blue Cyrstal or Soft Coins and they do still appear to be some kind of weird contraption agreed, but definately not a toy, and unlike the original Tenyo items we are supplying routines for the props also that finally explain their strange appearance.

Take Blue Crystal for example we have a great routine around the idea of a magician's bank. He uses this to store his valuables in such as rings, jewels, coins etc, but there is no lock or combination instead the only way to get the objects in or out of the bank is by magic. That is just one example.

By supplying properly scriped routines, and props made of more robust materials as well as eliminating such things as the Tenyo logo from the bottom of the prop(for example) really dispells any thought to the spectator that this is a toy. If you threw our Elite version of blue crystal at someone, you would probably kill em.

Also keep in mind that as Steve Brooks mentioned we also had to work very closely with Tenyo and they had to approve every stage, prototype, design, new mechanical methods, materials, appearance etc. And they also wanted us to try a particular type of trick to make sure that really could make this happen with even the most difficult and mechanical working tricks that Tenyo has such as Soft Coins and Blue Crysal, and we did! These first four tricks didn't allow us to use some of the different materials we have planned, but we plan for different materials to be used through out the line.

We are very excited about our future plans with Tenyo Elite, and this is only the begining. And thanks to everyone for the warm wishes! We appreciate them very much.

Peter.
Message: Posted by: kissdadookie (Jan 26, 2009 01:57PM)
With all these anodized aluminum versions I am predicting massive pocket droopiness ;) If anything, the Blue Crystal (I believe that's the name, I've always referred it to that blue penetration thing) is something you can't go wrong with. I had the original and used it quite often, no idea where I've put it, might still be at my old home. Would be awesome if it was made into a wooden chest instead of keeping the same box platform design. A lot more presentational ideas that can go hand in hand with a nice antique wooden chest design (tarnished brass hardware as well, very very cool).
Message: Posted by: Peter Loughran (Jan 26, 2009 03:38PM)
Kissdadookie,

Actually the weight of the first four items are not going to give you droopy pockets. They are definately more robust than the original plastic versions, but its not like steel or anything.

P.
Message: Posted by: kissdadookie (Jan 26, 2009 03:52PM)
Is the gimmick used for the new Blue Crystal different from the original or the one from that Credit Card slicing item that came out around a year or two ago.
Message: Posted by: Peter Loughran (Jan 26, 2009 04:09PM)
The lens itself is the same as in the original Blue Cyrstal. It is better known as Lubor's Lens created by Lubor Fiedler. This is one of the tricks we wanted to do first, not just because the trick is killer, but also we had to obtain permission to use this lens from Lubor himself outside of Tenyo Japan. And since several Tenyo tricks use this technology we wanted to obtain the permission sooner than later to use the special lens in the Tenyo Elite line of products.

The first time I saw Blue Crystal performed (by Jason actually) I nearly fell off my seat, it looked so good! The next time I saw it performed was when I was doing the Elite version and making all my friends and family fall off of theirs!


P.
Message: Posted by: ALEXANDRE (Jan 26, 2009 04:16PM)
Looking forward to the release of these.

It will be very cool to have these improved versions around.
Message: Posted by: Chance Wolf (Jan 28, 2009 10:03AM)
Hey guys,
WOW!! Nice job on a monolithic project!
I am looking forward to seeing these "in the real"
These have a nice slick look and look like they are built to perform.
I am looking forward to seeing some wood and brass versions as well.
Count me in on a complete set!
By the way, I really dig the new website. VERY COOL design!
Chance
Message: Posted by: Jason Palter (Jan 28, 2009 03:19PM)
Hello all:

I just wanted to let you know that we have slightly "enhanced" the official site, http://www.tenyoelite.com, so please have another visit.

First, there were a couple of issues with some of the pages, and some people could not see them properly. For instance please be sure to check out the "About Us" page, because there are some photos there that show our historic signing with Tenyo in New York, etc. Just use the "Continue" and "Back" buttons to navigate.

Secondly, there is now a form on the Contact Us page so that you can be added to our emailing list and be kept up to date on new products, etc.

Finally, in answer to one of the main questions, we are planning on introducing 4 to 6 products each year. What you see on the site are just the FIRST 4 that are coming out this year, and now the "Products" page reflects this with some more information.

Please let us know if you have any questions. Thank you again for all your support.

Best regards,

Jason Palter
Tenyo Elite/Paltergeist Unlimited
(416) 410-5766
Message: Posted by: Eddie Garland (Jan 28, 2009 11:30PM)
This Tenyo Elite line of products should sell well in the brick and mortar Magic Shops around the world. This stuff will look great in their glass cases and I doubt stay long before being sold.
Message: Posted by: paymerich (Jan 29, 2009 02:25PM)
DRINK MORE OVALTINE?? a cruddy commercial ?

[quote]
On 2009-01-24 15:02, magicofCurtis wrote:
Okay....

Does anyone feel like a sucker following this for months to end it with a sales ad?
This reminds me of the Christmas Story when the boy got his secret decoder and that night on the radio the secret message was an AD for a product that sponsored the radio sow! ehehe
[/quote]
Message: Posted by: GarySumpter (Feb 1, 2009 03:44PM)
Jason, Peter, Steve,

To follow on from my previous post.

The do look the same on your website, however I am impressed with the work you have put in.

I am 100% behind this project (I am a website designer, if you need anything done, give me a blip!)

I would suggest getting some demos up for us magicians, even behind a password protected area or something. We all know the effects, but a demo showing the NEW versions and explaining the differences would be awesome!

Gary
Message: Posted by: Steve Brooks (Feb 13, 2009 10:53PM)
Gary,

Thanks for the positive support - we appreciate it very much! :bwink:

Jason, Peter and I have been discussing the idea of putting demos on the site and will probably do this in the future. For now we are getting ready for Las Vegas! :)
Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (Feb 14, 2009 01:06AM)
Looking forward to seeing them at Las Vegas World Magic Seminar.
Message: Posted by: Peter Loughran (Feb 15, 2009 09:00AM)
Also looking foward to seeing you there Pete!

P.
Message: Posted by: smith83 (Feb 21, 2009 01:20AM)
They don't look much different to be honest. There really needs to be some effort to show how it feels different
Message: Posted by: Jason Palter (Feb 21, 2009 03:03PM)
Hello all:

Whokebe, you have got a very good point. It can be a little difficult to see/tell the differences between the original Tenyo tricks and our Elite editions by just looking at the photographs on the site. This is actually one of the reasons that we wrote the bulleted descriptive copy for each trick that you will see-----so as to better describe what the Elite edition gives you.

We have been running like crazy for the past number of months trying to line up all of our ducks for the World Magic Seminar next week. As you can imagine, we're not just putting out 4 tricks, but rather creating an entirely new line and new BRAND. Add to this the creation, etc. that we had to do to start up our actual company (JPS Magic Studios Ltd.), and you can get a fairly good idea of the immense amount of work involved. That being said, within the weeks following the convention, our plan is to put up videos for each of the tricks that will actually show the differences between the originals and the Elite editions. I agree with you: when first glancing the photos on the site, the differences are not readily apparent. However with things like this, you truly have to see them in person and hold them in your hands just to appreciate how different they are. Hopefully the videos will help with this.

I hope that helps put it in a little more perspective for you. If you're going to be at the convention, please come and introduce yourself to us at our official Tenyo Elite booth, and check out the pieces in person. Otherwise, I'm sure when you get a chance to see these in person once they are on sale at your local magic shop, you will be very impressed and will be able to better see the differences.

Please let us know if you have any other questions. Thank you for your time.

Best regards,

Jason Palter
Tenyo Elite/Paltergeist Unlimited
(416) 410-5766
Message: Posted by: smith83 (Feb 21, 2009 06:09PM)
I am sure they are nice in person, but perhaps you could do some closeup video of the new ones and compare them to he old ones?
Message: Posted by: gaffed (Feb 23, 2009 04:32PM)
[quote]
On 2009-02-21 19:09, whokebe wrote:
I am sure they are nice in person, but perhaps you could do some closeup video of the new ones and compare them to he old ones?
[/quote]

I believe that is exactly what Jason said their plans are.

[quote]
On 2009-02-21 16:03, Jason Palter wrote:

That being said, within the weeks following the convention, our plan is to put up videos for each of the tricks that will actually show the differences between the originals and the Elite editions.
[/quote]
Message: Posted by: smith83 (Feb 23, 2009 11:22PM)
Well that sounds good then
Message: Posted by: magicmind (Jun 18, 2009 09:32PM)
Are there any videos?