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What's your worst fear? this may sound cliche but being buried alive is mine. |
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| Being claustrophobic I'd say that was right up there!..though anything restricting my movement and preventing the FLEE response gets a vote. Also the panic moments of not getting enough air. |
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Mine would have to be trapped in something on fire. A car, house, anything. Bob. |
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| Awhile ago I was casually chatting with a woman I know online and just to make small talk I asked her this question and she asked me "why do you want to know? are you trying to kill me?" hahaha She said it creeped her out because she had just seen the movie Saw |
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| Often times when I sleep I dream that I'm still married to my X, and we are always arguing, when I wake up I always hug my honey. |
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| Harm to my children. |
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Bees. I ran into a hive when I was young and while I'm better about it now, bees still creep me out. I was interested in the movie "Fried Green Tomatoes" until I saw a review which ran part of the sequence where the girl goes up to the hive and gets honey while the bees are crawling all over her! Ugh! |
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I have NO fear. Sorry if you don't want to hear that. But as I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I shall have no fear because I'm the Baddest Mother 888888 there! |
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| Living to a ripe old age. |
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| Having to jump off a high place or a plane! |
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| Choking to death on a piece of food or on a medicine capsule. |
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| Spiders. and bill oriely |
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| Being buried alive here too! |
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For me fear is very situational. No "big fears" per se, but we all have fears. If I had to narrow it down, I'd say seeing a 1984ish/Nazi/fascist system coming to pass in America. That would be one of my worst fears. |
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[quote] On 2008-10-13 03:51, gaddy wrote: I'd say seeing a 1984ish/Nazi/fascist system coming to pass in America. That would be one of my worst fears. [/quote] You must be terrified then |
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| Ecclesiocracy and military faschism. |
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A little edgy right now, that's all... But yeah.... [quote] On 2008-10-13 06:13, Marvello wrote: You must be terrified then [/quote] |
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| Josh Riel in a thong. |
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| I'll agree with that. I fear Josh Riel in a thong. |
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| In the words of Peter Venkman; "Who wouldn't?" |
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| I don't like wasps or donkeys. Have been injured by both but I can't say I fear them. My nightmares include the previously mentioned ex wife, airplane crashes (considering I fly 4-5 flights a week that's understandable) and, losing my son. But I don't have any fears that control what I do or don't do. |
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Rotten Some people fear public speaking more than they fear death, while I feel the larger the crowd the more I want to tell a really really bad joke, but the absolute worst time of my life was the time that I waisted with my X wife, and she will always give me nightmares. |
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For me, it's shadow people http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_people |
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My Fear is Hights...I am currently trying too learn and perfect a new sub trunk routine...But even that's high enough to make me nervous...I guess I shouldn't try flying... magic mike |
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| Being banned from the Café from defending others of being attacked. |
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Having to explain my worst fear. Aaaggghh! Make it stop! just kidding. -Matt |
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Being a man who spends his whole life talking to other magicians on the Magic Café. no seriously,Heights.I still cant go in my attic. |
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| I too am claustrophobic and have worked hard to overcome it. It was one of the most motivating reasons I quite smoking, I watched some one that was claustrophobic suffer through emphysema. I think the anxiety and panic was worse than the emphysema. |
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[quote] On 2008-10-12 14:29, Justin Style wrote: I have NO fear. Sorry if you don't want to hear that. But as I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I shall have no fear because I'm the Baddest Mother 888888 there! [/quote] LOLOLOL |
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| I fear that robots are stealing my luggage! |
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[quote] On 2008-10-27 18:18, Dynamike wrote: Being banned from the Café from defending others of being attacked. [/quote] Accidentally reading posts like these^ |
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My worst fear, today? "President Obama." Carrie |
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[quote] On 2008-10-28 23:26, Carrie Sue wrote: My worst fear, today? "President Obama." Carrie [/quote] Obama, Biden, Reid, and Pelosi in charge. Arrrrrrgggggggghhhhhhh. The other fear is being inside a MRI. (panic city) |
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Let me amend my earlier fear. It would more accurately be the fear that I might accidentally read the stunning cataclysmic avalanche of ridiculous tripe as seen in the two posts above me as well as the other mentioned. I fear that one day I will not learn to look at the name and just skip the plant food. My fear has become reality. |
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| I worry that everything in my house will be stolen, and replaced with an exact duplicate. |
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[quote] On 2008-10-28 23:58, Josh Riel wrote: Let me amend my earlier fear. It would more accurately be the fear that I might accidentally read the stunning cataclysmic avalanche of ridiculous tripe as seen in the two posts above me as well as the other mentioned. I fear that one day I will not learn to look at the name and just skip the plant food. My fear has become reality. [/quote] I used to fear that same thing, Josh... But then I did something about it. And life's just been a rock-star coke party ever since! |
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[quote] On 2008-10-29 00:29, Scott Cram wrote: I worry that everything in my house will be stolen, and replaced with an exact duplicate. [/quote] Sorry Scott. I get the hint. I'll bring back your original things next time you're out. |
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Aha! I knew it was Josh! Here's a couple of interesting [url=http://www.unusualphobias.com/dogandspider.html]fears I found on the internet[/url]: I have very strange phobias. so please don't laugh. One of my fears is the fear of being thrown out of my window while I'm sleeping by my dog. I cant sleep with a dog near me, and I lock my bedroom door, and even seal it shut with duct tape before I go to bed. If I hear my dog outside my door, I shrivel up in a ball and try not to make a noise. Another fear of a spider shooting me in the middle of the night. I think this fear came about when I woke up one night to get some water, and I stepped on a spider, which was about 2 feet from my dads guncase. I freaked out, (being only 5) thinking the spider was about the get his .22 and shoot me as I walked down the stairs. |
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Dude... You're messed up. Now I have to go drink from the honeybucket down the street in the construction site. |
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| I've heard of men being afraid to close windows for fear of getting their willy whacked. That seems pretty irrational... |
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| I'm not that tall, or that well equipped, if I were so I would be too. |
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Scott, that phobias link has made this entire thread worthwhile. Check this one out: "Hi there, Ever since I was a kid growing up in NYC I've had a terrible gripping fear of going in natural bodies of water because there might be shopping carts down there. Now that I live in the country - people think I'm insane!" |
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[quote] On 2008-10-12 12:26, Magnus Eisengrim wrote: Harm to my children. [/quote] Definitely the same (harm or other) and I have six of them to worry about. This fear conversely makes me to enjoy them to the same extent that I fear for them. |
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[quote] On 2008-10-28 23:26, Carrie Sue wrote: My worst fear, today? "President Obama." Carrie [/quote] So how fearful are you going to be for the next four (and hopefully eight years)? The rest of us are at last rejoicing for we no longer must endure the darkness for the long reign of error is just about over. |
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| You can't blame me for anything that goes wrong for 4 years after Jan 22. |
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[quote]My worst fear, today? "President Obama." Carrie[/quote] :) |
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| Heights, spiders, and President Pelosi. :devilish: |
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[quote] On 2008-10-28 23:26, Carrie Sue wrote: My worst fear, today? "President Obama." Carrie [/quote] HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111oneoneoneone!!!!! |
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| HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! |
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Stop it Josh. I am full of admiration that Carrie Sue has so quickly overcome her very worst fear to come out |
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Sorry I got cut off. To come out batting for her favourite cause. Destiny |
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[quote] On 2008-10-13 06:13, Marvello wrote: [quote] On 2008-10-13 03:51, gaddy wrote: I'd say seeing a 1984ish/Nazi/fascist system coming to pass in America. That would be one of my worst fears. [/quote] You must be terrified then [/quote] I'd love to see someone (preferably Michael Moore, but anyone would do, really) suggest to a concentration camp survivor that early 21st century America bears (bore) as much as a moderate resemblance to Nazi Germany. Bring a first aid kit, if you do. |
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[quote] On 2008-11-06 00:08, Josh Riel wrote: HAHAHQAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHQAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHQAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHQAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHQAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHQAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHQAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH QQ MOAR!!!! [/quote] QQ MOAR!!!! ? Have you been reading the urban dictionary again? |
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[quote] On 2008-10-28 23:26, Carrie Sue wrote: My worst fear, today? "President Obama." Carrie [/quote] My fear is being surrounded by people with this mind set.. But I guess I'm not... (can you say popular vote, and 339 electoral votes) |
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[quote] On 2008-11-05 01:35, Big Jeff wrote: You can't blame me for anything that goes wrong for 4 years after Jan 22. [/quote] Does that mean we can blame you for all the disasters of the last eight years then? |
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[quote] On 2008-11-06 15:22, kcg5 wrote: [quote] On 2008-10-28 23:26, Carrie Sue wrote: My worst fear, today? "President Obama." Carrie [/quote] My fear is being surrounded by people with this mind set.. But I guess I'm not... (can you say popular vote, and 339 electoral votes) [/quote] Yup, you're not! But don't kid yourself that it's the other way around, either. Of every 25 voters, 13 of them picked Obama. But that's more than picked McCain, which is the important threshold. |
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The Gloat Factor rears its ugly head once again. It appears that more people (especially black people) chose their President based on the color of a man's skin and not the content of his character. He's the Affirmative Action President. Don't worry whether he's qualified for the job. He's black, so we want him. And before anyone calls me a racist, I would just like to add that I voted for Alan Keyes twice in Presidential primaries. I would love to see a black President, but one who shares my values and upholds the Constitution. I don't have either for the next four years. Just remember when Obama's socialist policies begin to be enacted, putting more shackles of government on the necks of the people ... ... you voted for it! Carrie |
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And I am *** proud of it. What does it say about our country when a mans election causes dancing in the streets? ( by all races) something must be working. We should all be happy, it is truly wonderful to be rid of you-know -who, and a great time to be alive. I wasnt really gloating. He kicked but, nothing like those very close elections we have had recently. kevin |
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[quote] On 2008-11-06 21:18, kcg5 wrote: And I am *** proud of it. What does it say about our country when a mans election causes dancing in the streets? ( by all races) kevin [/quote] Let's see...of every 200 eligible voters, about 75 stayed home, 65 voted for Obama, 58 voted for McCain, and 2 voted for someone else. Yup, it's a mandate! |
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| My worst fear is anything that smacks of the 'Anyone see the movie "Religulous"?' thread... |
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| So.... Did you see the movie Religulous? |
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| Don't start..... ;) |
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When the movie just came out I posted about it, but then within 10 minutes or so I remembered just who would jump into such a conversation and suggest that the Mods remove the thread, which they did rather quickly! (almost too quickly? Hmmm....) Looks like my fears were justified in that particular instance... |
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| You won't feel that way when Carrie Sue and Payne announce their engagement. |
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[quote] On 2008-11-06 17:21, Carrie Sue wrote: It appears that more people (especially black people) chose their President based on the color of a man's skin and not the content of his character. He's the Affirmative Action President. Don't worry whether he's qualified for the job. He's black, so we want him. [/quote] If that were true, Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton would have been more successful in their presidential bids. Most black people did not vote for either of them and their campaigns went nowhere fast. Most black people vote democratic. So if Hillary Clinton had been the democratic nominee, she would have received the majority of the black vote. I think more black people would have voted for her even if her opponent was a black republican like Alan Keyes or someone like Clarence Thomas. Affirmative Action President?? Please. If there was ever a classic recipient of affirmative action, it was Sarah Palin. She definitely wasn't qualified to be VP. At first, it appeared she would tip the balance in McCain's favor. But in less than one month, she clearly demonstrated that she was completely out of her league. Mitt Romney or Condolezza Rice would have proven to be qualified and competent running mates. One fear that a lot of people had was the possibility of Sarah Palin becoming president if something were to happen to McCain. BTW, gender is irrelevant. I'm sure Hillary Clinton or Condolezza Rice could handle the task of being president. The presidency wasn't given to Obama. That is not how Presidents are elected. People of various races voted for him - In the primaries as well as the general election...And yes, that includes a LOT of white people. In fact, the black vote alone would not have been enough. [quote] And before anyone calls me a racist, I would just like to add that I voted for Alan Keyes twice in Presidential primaries. [/quote] Obama trounced Keyes in the 2004 Illinois Senate race. Had Keyes been the republican candidate president, Obama would likely have beat him again. |
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[quote] On 2008-11-06 23:58, Kevvy wrote: [quote] On 2008-11-06 17:21, Carrie Sue wrote: It appears that more people (especially black people) chose their President based on the color of a man's skin and not the content of his character. He's the Affirmative Action President. Don't worry whether he's qualified for the job. He's black, so we want him. [/quote] If that were true, Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton would have been more successful in their presidential bids. Most black people did not vote for either of them and their campaigns went nowhere fast. Most black people vote democratic. So if Hillary Clinton had been the democratic nominee, she would have received the majority of the black vote. I think more black people would have voted for her even if her opponent was a black republican like Alan Keyes or someone like Clarence Thomas. Affirmative Action President?? Please. If there was ever a classic recipient of affirmative action, it was Sarah Palin. She definitely wasn't qualified to be VP. At first, it appeared she would tip the balance in McCain's favor. But in less than one month, she clearly demonstrated that she was completely out of her league. Mitt Romney or Condolezza Rice would have proven to be qualified and competent running mates. One fear that a lot of people had was the possibility of Sarah Palin becoming president if something were to happen to McCain. BTW, gender is irrelevant. I'm sure Hillary Clinton or Condolezza Rice could handle the task of being president. The presidency wasn't given to Obama. That is not how Presidents are elected. People of various races voted for him - In the primaries as well as the general election...And yes, that includes a LOT of white people. In fact, the black vote alone would not have been enough. [quote] And before anyone calls me a racist, I would just like to add that I voted for Alan Keyes twice in Presidential primaries. [/quote] Obama trounced Keyes in the 2004 Illinois Senate race. Had Keyes been the republican candidate president, Obama would likely have beat him again. [/quote] Great post the only thing I disagree on is Sarah Palin I think she was the only reason McCain did as well as he did. |
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[quote] On 2008-11-06 21:40, LobowolfXXX wrote: [quote] On 2008-11-06 21:18, kcg5 wrote: And I am *** proud of it. What does it say about our country when a mans election causes dancing in the streets? ( by all races) kevin [/quote] Let's see...of every 200 eligible voters, about 75 stayed home, 65 voted for Obama, 58 voted for McCain, and 2 voted for someone else. Yup, it's a mandate! [/quote] LobowolfXXX- if you don't bother to vote, you don't count. That's exactly how it works. Carrie Sue- Black voter turnout made up 13% of the voters, compared to 11% in 2004. That's a scant 2% increase (in a population that is already very politically active.) Obama won by 6 points- the victory cannot be attributed to black voters alone. Take a look at the exit polls sometime, you may find them interesting. Obama won the majority of votes from every demographic except for white males. I'm an optimist- I'd like to think that skin color was not at all a factor in this election. However, at least one poll has stated that for at least 20% of the population, it was, in fact, an issue. (But regardless, of those 20% who said it was an issue, at least 60% still voted for Obama.) The fact of the matter is that we elected Obama in spite of his skin color, not because of it. -Erik |
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[quote] On 2008-11-06 17:21, Carrie Sue wrote: The Gloat Factor rears its ugly head once again. It appears that more people (especially black people) chose their President based on the color of a man's skin and not the content of his character. He's the Affirmative Action President. Don't worry whether he's qualified for the job. He's black, so we want him. And before anyone calls me a racist, I would just like to add that I voted for Alan Keyes twice in Presidential primaries. I would love to see a black President, but one who shares my values and upholds the Constitution. I don't have either for the next four years. Just remember when Obama's socialist policies begin to be enacted, putting more shackles of government on the necks of the people ... ... you voted for it! Carrie [/quote] Carrie Sue should become a Mentalist because she always seems to know what other people are thinking. Uncanny |
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[quote] On 2008-11-06 17:21, Carrie Sue wrote: It appears that more people (especially black people) chose their President based on the color of a man's skin and not the content of his character. [/quote] That gets my vote for the stupidest thing I have read recently (And I read Josh #2's stuff) All you silly white republicans chose your candidate based on crazy. But don't worry, I have republican friends so I can say whatever I want. |
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[quote] On 2008-11-07 00:06, Tom Bartlett wrote: Great post the only thing I disagree on is Sarah Palin I think she was the only reason McCain did as well as he did. [/quote] I agree that she helped him by energizing his base. I also think she could have posed a real threat to the Obama campaign if she were more qualified. Her interviews with Katie Couric & Charles Gibson didn't help. |
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That last sentence was really good josh, I mean really good. I didn't even want to approach what Carrie said..... |
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[quote] On 2008-11-07 03:08, Kevvy wrote: [quote] On 2008-11-07 00:06, Tom Bartlett wrote: Great post the only thing I disagree on is Sarah Palin I think she was the only reason McCain did as well as he did. [/quote] I agree that she helped him by energizing his base. I also think she could have posed a real threat to the Obama campaign if she were more qualified. Her interviews with Katie Couric & Charles Gibson didn't help. [/quote] Do you feel Obama was more qualified than Palin, if so why? |
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He's intelligent, that's why. Palin is not. Not yet at least. |
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I agree with Pakar. Experience AND intelligence are important. Obama spent eight years in the Illinois senate before his two years of service in the U.S. Senate. He also taught constitutional law for 10 years and was a civil rights attorney. I think people looked beyond Palin's executive experience and realized she was in over her head. Her folksy "Hockey mom" schtick may or may not have been a bonus, but McCain needed more than that. Look at what Bush has done with his years of experience. As the last eight years of failed Bush policies have proven, it takes a lot more than just experience to be a good president. Dan Quayle mentioned in the '88 VP debate that he had more experience than Jack Kennedy did when he (Kennedy) sought office. And that was true, he actually did have more experience. ...But Quayle's performance as VP indicated he was no Jack Kennedy. |
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[quote] On 2008-11-07 00:12, EsnRedshirt wrote: [quote] On 2008-11-06 21:40, LobowolfXXX wrote: [quote] On 2008-11-06 21:18, kcg5 wrote: And I am *** proud of it. What does it say about our country when a mans election causes dancing in the streets? ( by all races) kevin [/quote] Let's see...of every 200 eligible voters, about 75 stayed home, 65 voted for Obama, 58 voted for McCain, and 2 voted for someone else. Yup, it's a mandate! [/quote] LobowolfXXX- if you don't bother to vote, you don't count. That's exactly how it works. Carrie Sue- Black voter turnout made up 13% of the voters, compared to 11% in 2004. That's a scant 2% increase (in a population that is already very politically active.) Obama won by 6 points- the victory cannot be attributed to black voters alone. Take a look at the exit polls sometime, you may find them interesting. Obama won the majority of votes from every demographic except for white males. I'm an optimist- I'd like to think that skin color was not at all a factor in this election. However, at least one poll has stated that for at least 20% of the population, it was, in fact, an issue. (But regardless, of those 20% who said it was an issue, at least 60% still voted for Obama.) The fact of the matter is that we elected Obama in spite of his skin color, not because of it. -Erik [/quote] Ummm thanks for pointing out that bit about not counting if you don't vote; I was puzzled by that. At the risk of being understood, I'll rephrase: In response to a post that suggested that most of the whole country is overjoyed that Obama won, I broke down the numbers a tad to point out that the fact is that less than 1/3 of registered voters bothered to vote for him, and just barely over half of the people who DID vote voted for him. If you glanced at a crowd of 50 voters and did a show of hands, you wouldn't be able to tell at a glance that more of them voted for him (26) than didn't (24). Having said that, it was certainly still a decisive victory by presidential election standards, but it's not like in a country of 300 million, 200 million are rejoicing at the election results. With respect to your math directed at Carrie's post, the fact that Obama had a 6% edge in the popular vote doesn't mean that a 2% increase in black voter turnout couldn't swing the election, as the election is decided by the electoral vote. Compare a hypothetical Obama-McCain election with Bush - Gore: Let's say everything else is the same, but Obama increased his edge by 6% in California among white voters. This would have had no effect on the election: the Democrats won all the electoral votes there anyway. Let's further say that a few thousand African American voters (FAR less than 2%) in Florida voted for him only because he was black. BAM - Obama wins the election because he's black. I'm not saying that's what happened; I'm saying it's flawed to suggest that the 2% vs. 6% comparison proves that it didn't happen. The increase among black voters from 11% to 13%, btw, is an 18% increase FWIW. If at least 60% of those who said skin color was a factor favored Obama, then he didn't win "in spite of" it; it helped him. Whether it helped him enough to swing the election is another matter. Like you, I'd like to think that it didn't (and in fact, I do think that it didn't. I think and hope that votes based on skin color largely cancelled each other out, as I'm sure they happened on both sides, and I'm sure that it wasn't a major factor for an overwhelming majority of voters). |
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[quote] On 2008-11-07 11:08, Kevvy wrote: ...But Quayle's performance as VP indicated he was no Jack Kennedy. [/quote] What did Quayle do as Vice President that you found problematic? |
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[quote] On 2008-11-07 11:41, LobowolfXXX wrote: [quote] On 2008-11-07 11:08, Kevvy wrote: ...But Quayle's performance as VP indicated he was no Jack Kennedy. [/quote] What did Quayle do as Vice President that you found problematic? [/quote] Although Vice Presidents are limited in their formal responsibilities, (Dick Cheney may be the exception) Quayle was widely ridiculed in both the USA and overseas as incompetent. Like Bush & Palin, (I've heard Palin referred to as "Quaylin") Quayle had a tendency to make public statements which were either self-contradictory, logically redundant, or painfully confused and inappropriate. The general perception of Quayle as a joke was somewhat problematic for Bush Sr. When Bush ran for reelection in 1992, some republicans urged the president to dump Quayle from the ticket. Public opinion polls showed him to be the least popular vice president in forty years, scoring even lower than Spiro Agnew. However, Bush and his staff concluded that changing running mates would be a sign of panic and would serve as an admission that his original choice had been a mistake. |
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My biggest fear...President Carrie. If I need to clarify why... Gwyd |
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Quayle was the best life insurance policy that Bush Sr. had; much like the words "President Cheney" strike fear into the hearts of everyone. I'd say that Palin was nominated for a similiar reason, but it doesn't work when voters are looking at electing someone who would have been the oldest POTUS nominated to the position. -Erik |
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[quote] On 2008-11-07 15:02, Kevvy wrote: [quote] On 2008-11-07 11:41, LobowolfXXX wrote: [quote] On 2008-11-07 11:08, Kevvy wrote: ...But Quayle's performance as VP indicated he was no Jack Kennedy. [/quote] What did Quayle do as Vice President that you found problematic? [/quote] Although Vice Presidents are limited in their formal responsibilities, (Dick Cheney may be the exception) Quayle was widely ridiculed in both the USA and overseas as incompetent. Like Bush & Palin, (I've heard Palin referred to as "Quaylin") Quayle had a tendency to make public statements which were either self-contradictory, logically redundant, or painfully confused and inappropriate. The general perception of Quayle as a joke was somewhat problematic for Bush Sr. When Bush ran for reelection in 1992, some republicans urged the president to dump Quayle from the ticket. Public opinion polls showed him to be the least popular vice president in forty years, scoring even lower than Spiro Agnew. However, Bush and his staff concluded that changing running mates would be a sign of panic and would serve as an admission that his original choice had been a mistake. [/quote] Oh, sorry...I misunderstood the line "Quayle's performance as VP" to mean something about his performance as VP. |
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| Nobody could really be another Jack Kennedy, but I suppose if someone wanted to try, he'd have to dramatically cut tax rates for the rich, invade a small country that most people believe pose no threat to the United States, dramatically increase our military presence overseas...hey, wait a sec. |
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| LMAO, touche Counselor! |
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| MICK! How you been, man? |
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[quote] On 2008-11-07 16:22, LobowolfXXX wrote: Nobody could really be another Jack Kennedy, but I suppose if someone wanted to try, he'd have to dramatically cut tax rates for the rich, invade a small country that most people believe pose no threat to the United States, dramatically increase our military presence overseas...hey, wait a sec. [/quote] Haha! I knew there was still an inkling of a reason that I hadn't killfiled you yet, Mr. LobowolfXXX. |
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[quote] Oh, sorry...I misunderstood the line "Quayle's performance as VP" to mean something about his performance as VP. [/quote] No, what you misunderstood was the fact that you asked "What did Quayle do as Vice President that you found problematic?" And I answered your question. What Quayle did was serve as an embarrassment for Bush Sr. That is what I found problematic. The Constitution assigns no executive powers to the vice president, in performing such duties he or she acts only as an agent of the president. That includes speaking for this country, which IS a major part of his performance as VP. The way he spoke and the things he said when being grilled on policy was part of his performance. It was also a reflection of his intelligence. The irregular heartbeat that President Bush experienced in 1991 literally meant that Quayle was a heartbeat way from the presidency. And people felt he was ill-equipped for the job. |
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[quote] On 2008-11-07 16:57, gaddy wrote: Haha! I knew there was still an inkling of a reason that I hadn't killfiled you yet, Mr. LobowolfXXX. [/quote] Actually, I usually agree with LobowolfXXX. LOL |
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[quote] On 2008-11-07 17:10, Kevvy wrote: [quote] On 2008-11-07 16:57, gaddy wrote: Haha! I knew there was still an inkling of a reason that I hadn't killfiled you yet, Mr. LobowolfXXX. [/quote] Actually, I usually agree with LobowolfXXX. LOL [/quote] I'm sure you're not alone, Mr. Kevvy... |
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While Quayle wasn't a brilliant orator, his propensity for misstatements was exaggerated (read: often fabricated). I still know people who claim to have heard firsthand the one about being sorry that he didn't speak Latin when in Latin America (which he didn't say). I don't think he came up with anything as juicy as "I am a jelly donut," however (though to be fair, Kennedy made that little slip while speaking a foreign language). I'm sure if it had been Quayle, though, it would have gone down as one of the stupidest things ever said, not one of the most brilliant. http://www.snopes.com/quotes/quayle.asp |
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| Gaddy...it's the fact that you appreciate so few of my posts that makes those few so much sweeter! |
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[quote] On 2008-11-07 16:22, LobowolfXXX wrote: Nobody could really be another Jack Kennedy, but I suppose if someone wanted to try, he'd have to dramatically cut tax rates for the rich, invade a small country that most people believe pose no threat to the United States, dramatically increase our military presence overseas...hey, wait a sec. [/quote] Given Kennedy's faults, there is no way Bush, Quayle or Palin are in the same class as him. If any of those three were at the helm during the Cuban Missle Crisis, we would have probably had WW3 on our hands. I don't agree with everything Kennedy, Reagan, or Clinton did. But they are much better than what we had the past eight years. Bush Sr. was a decent president. Unfortunately, the George W. Bush administration is one of the worst in American history. |
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[quote] On 2008-11-06 23:54, Josh the Superfluous wrote: You won't feel that way when Carrie Sue and Payne announce their engagement. [/quote] The offspring of such a union... now that's my biggest fear! |
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| Worst fear? Old age. Losing my, um, "powers." |
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[quote] On 2008-11-06 14:03, LobowolfXXX wrote: [quote] On 2008-10-13 06:13, Marvello wrote: [quote] On 2008-10-13 03:51, gaddy wrote: I'd say seeing a 1984ish/Nazi/fascist system coming to pass in America. That would be one of my worst fears. [/quote] You must be terrified then [/quote] I'd love to see someone (preferably Michael Moore, but anyone would do, really) suggest to a concentration camp survivor that early 21st century America bears (bore) as much as a moderate resemblance to Nazi Germany. Bring a first aid kit, if you do. [/quote] Whenever you wish to use the word nazi, could you please drop the capital "n". It has been ruled by an international court, lead by American judges that they had lost the right to any respect and are just a "criminal organization" and being a member is sufficient to make one a criminal (1949 ruling: proceedings reported in the "Green Books")... So please no capital "n". The ruling made it clear that there is no possible prescription to this condamnation. Being the son of a survivor, I think that it's almost an insult to the former concentration camps inmates to use this hugly word for things that are not coming even far to (let alone close to) the horror level it attempts in good faith to reject. Thanks |
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Every post I have read from Lawrence I have ever read made me stop and think. Maybe its cause I am slow, or because he writes so well and composes his thoughts so completely with no wasted words. Kevin |
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[quote] On 2008-11-12 15:04, Lawrence O wrote: [quote] On 2008-11-06 14:03, LobowolfXXX wrote: [quote] On 2008-10-13 06:13, Marvello wrote: [quote] On 2008-10-13 03:51, gaddy wrote: I'd say seeing a 1984ish/Nazi/fascist system coming to pass in America. That would be one of my worst fears. [/quote] You must be terrified then [/quote] I'd love to see someone (preferably Michael Moore, but anyone would do, really) suggest to a concentration camp survivor that early 21st century America bears (bore) as much as a moderate resemblance to Nazi Germany. Bring a first aid kit, if you do. [/quote] Whenever you wish to use the word nazi, could you please drop the capital "n". It has been ruled by an international court, lead by American judges that they had lost the right to any respect and are just a "criminal organization" and being a member is sufficient to make one a criminal (1949 ruling: proceedings reported in the "Green Books")... So please no capital "n". The ruling made it clear that there is no possible prescription to this condamnation. Being the son of a survivor, I think that it's almost an insult to the former concentration camps inmates to use this hugly word for things that are not coming even far to (let alone close to) the horror level it attempts in good faith to reject. Thanks [/quote] OK, no problem. No big "n". I can live with that. The idea still scares me though, because I see liberty disappearing at an alarming rate --with every single passing law it seems --in America today... Not a comparison, but merely an observation, and a reoccurring fear of mine. |
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| I suppose I could also say that my fear is that in four years I won't even recognize my beloved country, and not in a good way. I can't help but think "What will there be left for my grandchildren?" |
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[quote] On 2008-11-12 15:59, daffydoug wrote: I suppose I could also say that my fear is that in four years I won't even recognize my beloved country, and not in a good way. I can't help but think "What will there be left for my grandchildren?" [/quote] well after EIGHT years I hardly recognize MY own country. So, at least I can understand how you feel... |
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NINJAS! Mike |
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[quote] On 2008-11-11 14:09, Dan Paulus wrote: [quote] On 2008-11-06 23:54, Josh the Superfluous wrote: You won't feel that way when Carrie Sue and Payne announce their engagement. [/quote] The offspring of such a union... now that's my biggest fear! [/quote] What offspring? Like matter and anti-matter, the two genetic patterns would cancel each other out. |