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Topic: Do You Take Fish Oil Pills?
Message: Posted by: Ken Northridge (Oct 13, 2008 05:57PM)
My no nonsense doctor, who has flat out told me that vitamins are a waste of money before, prescribes fish oil pills for heart health. Fish oil increases good cholesterol which in turn lowers bad cholesterol.

Iím up to 6 pills per day.

How about you?
Message: Posted by: Destiny (Oct 13, 2008 06:21PM)
Yes - they lowered my cholesterol.

Destiny
Message: Posted by: randirain (Oct 13, 2008 06:26PM)
Yes vitamins are a waste and in some cases can be bad for you.
Such as Vitamin C.
There are studies that show that sythetic Vit C hardens the arteries around the heart.
It's best just to eat fruit.

As for fish oil.. it does work.
I don't take it though, because I don't need it.
I just don't eat stuff with cholesterol and fat in it.
At least mostly... I don't eat meat, but some other stuff I eat has a little fat in it.
But mostly I am fat and cholesterol free, and my blood work shows it.

Randi
Message: Posted by: Josh Riel (Oct 13, 2008 06:26PM)
I was told to take them too.

I don't, but I was told to.
Message: Posted by: Destiny (Oct 13, 2008 06:36PM)
[quote]I just don't eat stuff with cholesterol and fat in it.[/quote]

Same here - I was astounded when the doctor told me I had high cholesterol - apparently it can be hereditary and it's too late now to choose other parents.

Destiny
Message: Posted by: Nerdini (Oct 13, 2008 07:10PM)
I tend to have high Cholesterol, so I take prescription Lipitor daily, but at my last check both my HDL and LDL clolesterol levels were in check, so I was pretty pleased. Then my doctor ruined my elation by saying that my triglyceride count was too high, so he doubled my lipator prescription and has me taking 2000 mg of fish oil daily. I can't win for losing.

From what I have read only 20% of the cholesterol in your body comes from the food you eat--your body manufactures the other 80%
Message: Posted by: daffydoug (Oct 13, 2008 07:27PM)
Most enlightening site I ever found on the subject of fish oil was here: http://www.drdavesbest.com/frontend/default.aspx
Message: Posted by: Lyndel (Oct 13, 2008 08:43PM)
I don't take fish oil pills... I prefer mine fresh squeezed. :)


Lyndel
Message: Posted by: Father Photius (Oct 13, 2008 09:04PM)
LOL, Lyndel you are too much. My cardiologist has me taking fish oil (and you have to read the label to get fish oil that does not contain cholesterol, some do and quite a bit of it), flax seed oil, and non flushing niacin every day. And still encourages me to eat cold water fatty fish a couple of times a week.
Message: Posted by: Tom Bartlett (Oct 13, 2008 10:34PM)
Is like the cod liver pills, they sold when I was a kid?
Message: Posted by: Josh Riel (Oct 13, 2008 10:35PM)
Same thing, except now they are in capsule form. No more punishment by Cod Liver Oil... Man that sucked.
Message: Posted by: Margarette (Oct 13, 2008 11:55PM)
I don't take fish oil capsules. I take flax seed oil capsules. I think my high cholesterol is hereditary, but it's not so high the doc has me on medication for it. Although, if I can't get it regulated with diet and exercise in the next year, I think that's what he'll do. I'm on 81mg of daily asprin therapy and I've got my trusty nitro tablets for my heart. I also take Nexium. So, if I can NOT have to take any more medications, I'm all for it!
Message: Posted by: Michael Baker (Oct 14, 2008 12:12AM)
[quote]
On 2008-10-13 23:35, Josh Riel wrote:
Same thing, except now they are in capsule form. No more punishment by Cod Liver Oil... Man that sucked.
[/quote]

That's putting it too mildly. I was given spoonfuls of that stuff as a kid. Absolutely the worst stuff in the world.

Now, I eat lots of bad stuff, including high cholesterol foods, and my blood work is fine. Go figure...
Message: Posted by: pepka (Oct 14, 2008 12:22AM)
1000 MG a day.
Message: Posted by: Michael J. Douglas (Oct 14, 2008 01:26AM)
A couple family members and a few friends use apple cider vinegar tablets. That's all they did, no real exercise or diet changes, and it worked like a charm. Talk to your doctor before you try it, as I've heard it can mess with some medications, but it's worth a shot if the fish oil doesn't work out (which can give you heartburn).
Message: Posted by: Ken Northridge (Oct 14, 2008 08:25AM)
You are all very correct when you say that high cholesterol is mostly hereditary.

When my doctor told me I had high cholesterol I was determined NOT to go on Lipitor. So for 6 months I did not eat meat, eggs or cheese.:( Iíve always exercised regularly and am not overweight. So, that was not an issue. The resultóonly a slight decrease in my cholesterol.

I went on Lipitor and fish oil pills and there was a dramatic decrease in total cholesterol and bad cholesterol and a nice increase in good cholesterol. For years my cholesterol has stabilized at around 135. ( HDL(Bad) 65, LDL(Good) 61)

Now, Iím going to have bacon and eggs for breakfast.:)

PS: Thanks to my friends in Canada who make my Lipitor affordable.
Message: Posted by: kregg (Oct 14, 2008 08:39AM)
Have you tried easting fish? :idea:
Message: Posted by: Ken Northridge (Oct 14, 2008 08:47AM)
Yes, I failed to mention that was part of the 6 month experiment also. I have not seen any expert deny the health benefits of eating lots of fish.
Message: Posted by: EsnRedshirt (Oct 14, 2008 10:14AM)
One unfortunate side effect of pollution- higher concentrations of mercury at upper levels of the food chain. My wife and I can't eat as much of the larger deep sea fish as we'd like.

(On a side note, while pregnant women should definately take Omega-3 suppliments, they should avoid all fish oil-based ones, due to the risk of mercury consumption.)

-Erik
Message: Posted by: kregg (Oct 14, 2008 03:28PM)
[quote]
On 2008-10-14 09:47, Ken Northridge wrote:
Yes, I failed to mention that was part of the 6 month experiment also. I have not seen any expert deny the health benefits of eating lots of fish.
[/quote]

I love fish.
My brother-in-law suffers from a condition which causes him to produce kidney stones at a high rate (5 or 6 since I've known him). He has been told by his doctor stop eating fatty fish, any fatty food for that matter, as well as some starches.
Message: Posted by: Justin Style (Oct 14, 2008 03:59PM)
I don't waste money on vitamins (adult candy) and I haven't taken fish oil pills. I just eats lots of fish, I'm the son of a fisherman. I grew up on fish and eat it about 4 - 5 times a week. I am in great health and no cholesterol issues.

Fish oil, flack seed, almonds, walnuts, beans...it's all good!

Don't forget to drink water! I know you are NOT drinking enough. But more important than what you take in, is how much you put out! Are you good for 2 - 3 liter per day? hmmmm, are you? Drink up...and to help prevent the growth of kidney stones, drink water with lemon!
Message: Posted by: Vandy Grift (Oct 14, 2008 04:02PM)
[quote]

Don't forget to drink water! I know you are NOT drinking enough. [/quote]

I think I'm drinking too much water. I've taken to sleeping in the bathtub cause I got tired of all the late night trips to the john.
Message: Posted by: Ken Northridge (Oct 14, 2008 04:42PM)
[quote]
On 2008-10-14 16:59, Justin Style wrote:
Don't forget to drink water! I know you are NOT drinking enough.
[/quote]

Wow! How did you know? :confused:
Message: Posted by: kregg (Oct 14, 2008 05:06PM)
If you are parched ... too late you're dehydrated.
If you are ******* like a race horse, you're drinking too much water and wasting all of those expensive water soluble vitamins, along with your $25 per gallon designer water. :hrmph:
Message: Posted by: Al Angello (Oct 14, 2008 05:32PM)
I take a hand full of medication every day, some are prescription, and some are vitimins. I take 1,000mg of fish oil in the morning, and 1,000mg of fish oil at night, 2,000mg at once would be a little too rough to handle. Everything else I take is for high blood sugar, high blood pressure, cholesterol, I also have stomach, throat, and back issues. The good news is that I can still sit up and feed myself.
Message: Posted by: Steve_Mollett (Oct 14, 2008 06:14PM)
I take flax seed oil capsules.
Message: Posted by: Magnus Eisengrim (Oct 14, 2008 07:57PM)
Or do you pay for them?
Message: Posted by: randirain (Oct 14, 2008 08:22PM)
[quote]
On 2008-10-13 20:10, Nerdini wrote:
From what I have read only 20% of the cholesterol in your body comes from the food you eat--your body manufactures the other 80%
[/quote]

It's actually about 75%/25%, but everyone is different.

High HDL runs in my family, so not eating meat keeps my LDL low.
So all I need is to keep the 25% out of me and I am good.

But cholesterol medicine is bad news.
It causes a lot of problems with your liver and the muscles in your legs.
If you can avoid it... do so!

Randi
Message: Posted by: Magic Spank (Oct 16, 2008 08:42PM)
Flax seed oil is bad for the prostate, watch out guys.

You can get quality fish oil with no mercury or other heavy metal content at vitaminshop.com

It's not cheap but it also tastes good. They even have cod liver oil that tastes good (seriously). Just a little lemon flavor to it. Also no mercury to worry about. It tastes so good a kid will not just eat it, they'll ask for it.

I'm told the oil is more effective than the pills, similar to fresh garlic over pills.
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Oct 16, 2008 09:26PM)
[quote]
On 2008-10-13 19:36, plasticdestiny wrote:
[quote]I just don't eat stuff with cholesterol and fat in it.[/quote]

Same here - I was astounded when the doctor told me I had high cholesterol - apparently it can be hereditary and it's too late now to choose other parents.

Destiny
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You can work on it for next time around ,though! ;)

Check with Shirley MacLaine.
Message: Posted by: Sorceress (Oct 23, 2008 05:32AM)
Ken,
Thank you for bringing up this topic. Interesting! I never knew one would take 6 per day! Your doctor is telling you the truth about vitamins, Americans and others are overdosing on them and they aren't needed if you eat colorful meals. But no one believes it! I don;t know about Vitamin D though. The latest stuff suggests that might be good to take.

We bought the fish oil pills once and I took one and got terrible indigestion, so I never took anymore. I'm not sure how to avoid that if you don't eat a lot of food. We don't eat that much so I haven't pursued it but we pretty much eat according to what is known and recommended now and our test results are great.
Message: Posted by: Ken Northridge (Oct 23, 2008 03:11PM)
Yes, my doctor said six 1000mg pills and they can be taken all at once. If your test results are great then there is not need to go through this horrible regimen of swallowing 6 large pills everyday. Consider yourself lucky.
Message: Posted by: Sorceress (Oct 23, 2008 03:31PM)
Hi Ken,
I hope your tests are good now.
Yes, lucky that we can do it with diet, although it is tricky to figure out what to eat to keep your test results good and still keep us happy with our diet. Our doctor didn't think I could change it through diet and without meds. I found what Randirain apparently found, that lowering the amount of protein in our diet was effective. I think doing most of the things recommended worked for us. Exercise helps a lot to lower cholesterol. Thank you Ken!
Message: Posted by: EsnRedshirt (Oct 23, 2008 04:04PM)
There is a downside to ingesting too much fish oil. It can thin your blood too much, causing some problems with clotting and other such things. If I recall, this was discovered in Eskimos who's diet is primarily fish. It takes around 10,000mg a day before it happens though- which is roughly ten of those large fish oil capsules.

However, I started getting zits when I took three capsules a day. I cut back to two, and the problem was solved.

-Erik
Message: Posted by: Sorceress (Oct 23, 2008 06:34PM)
You know what is good and simple to make and eat? Take sardines and put them on plain crackers, like premium, then sprinkle a LITTLE bit of shredded cheese on top and a couple of shakes of Louisiana Hot Sauce and it is good, you get your fish and No fish pills. It makes a nice and easy hors d'oeuvre and you can have it a couple or more times a week.
Message: Posted by: MagicSanta (Oct 23, 2008 10:50PM)
I'm lucky in that I come from a genetic line that processes cholest. well and no one in my family has had a problem with it. My wife takes fish oil and from every study I've seen that wasn't paid for by a specific packager of fish oil the one most free of contaminents is the Costco brand, no kidding.
Message: Posted by: Sorceress (Oct 26, 2008 04:33PM)
MagicSanta, you are the luckiest! The Framingham study showed people with your genes living LONG lives, way into their 90's. That is Smashing!
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I posted the top 5 killers in the US, on the Longevity thread and the Best Advice thread, and think you all might find it interesting to read. Maybe learn something or have something important to share with people you care about.
Message: Posted by: Matt Watts (Oct 27, 2008 06:42PM)
Fish oil pills can also be prescribed as a dietary supplement.