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Topic: Deans Set or Expanded Set
Message: Posted by: coinguy (Nov 6, 2008 07:48PM)
Hello All,

Recently I decided that I want to invest in a good [ set. I think the barber halves are good because they are silver and soft, plus I work best with half dollar sized coins. I was on the Schoolcraft site and noticed that they also sell a set referred to as a "Dean's Set" which features an unexpanded [ and four milled coins. They looked very nice, but the expanded set is 50 dollars less. I understand the advantages of an unexpanded set, but is it worth the extra 50 dollars?

Message: Posted by: billfromoregon (Nov 6, 2008 08:38PM)
It all depends on you. I prefer unexpanded sets because the milling is crisp, making classic palm and edge grip easier, plus the coins all fit PERFECTLY, as they have been milled to size. I think $50.00 is a small price to pay for the extra work involved and the benefit of easier palming. And being slightly smaller, they may be easier to palm, depending on your hand size. Good luck, whatever you decide -

Message: Posted by: pepka (Nov 6, 2008 11:04PM)
I've never handled a Schoolcraft set that wasn't a Dean's set. My only [ prior was Johnson's and I can tell you that a Dean's set fits perfectly unlike the Johnson's. Try and find friends with different sets so you can see the difference.
Message: Posted by: coinguy (Nov 6, 2008 11:09PM)
Sounds like the few extra bucks pays off in the long run, especially with the nice milling. That will be really nice I bet.
Message: Posted by: andrelimantara (Nov 7, 2008 06:01AM)
I have Dean set in Walking liberty

It's great... The milled really help you to grip.

It's the best investment in my magic life

Message: Posted by: jordanl (Nov 7, 2008 09:02AM)
For very soft coins you may be better off with a deans set, I use Walkers and prefer expanded sets but that's just opinion. Keep in mind you're going to use the coins for many years, the price difference will be long forgotten and you will still be using the coins. If possible follow Pepka's advice and try some friends sets, sometimes easier said than done.
Message: Posted by: NicholasD (Nov 7, 2008 09:18AM)
I've handled both types, and in my opinion, Walkers and Barbers look better if they aren't cut down as in a Dean's set. Admittedly, the edges are sharper, but it's really not that hard to palm a silver half dollar.

On the other hand, I prefer the Dean's set for soft Morgans. Due to the larger size, they still look good and they're easier to palm.
Message: Posted by: morgandollarman (Nov 7, 2008 12:40PM)
I would agree with NicholasD that I would go with an expanded set.I have had nearly most of the sets (expanded and deans) in half dollars and silver dollars..If you want crisp milling then the deans set is better but my last set of walkers from jamie was an expanded set and the coins had nice edges anyway.I am not really one for the cut down coins anymore at least if you lose one you can easily pick up a couple off ebay and see if they fit where as you would have to order another deans coin if you lost one which will work out a little bit more,plus I like to keep all my coins now with out having them cut down,it's not much but to me I can feel the difference.

It's your call really. p.s up to now I have been lucky when adding extra coins to my expanded shell off ebay they all have fitted well.
Message: Posted by: coinguy (Nov 8, 2008 10:56AM)
I am having second thoughts about getting the barbers. Is there any specific coin that people recommend. 1964's walking liberties or barbers? Liberties are cheaper than barbers, and I don't really see a difference in them at all. I was thinking of getting Kennedy 64's since people actually recognize them, and also they will look more natural with the freshly milled edges considering they faces are shiny as well.
Message: Posted by: NicholasD (Nov 8, 2008 05:23PM)
It seems to me that it's a waste of money to get a Dean's Set made with uncirculated Kennedy halves. They already have sharp edges and when all four coins are cut down ( whether they're Walkers, Barbers or Kennedys ) they just look a little odd because they become smaller than they already are.

I've seen and handled them all. When it comes to half dollars, I'd always opt for a good expanded shell with matching coins.
Message: Posted by: coinguy (Nov 9, 2008 12:44AM)
Alright, since I think the general consensus is that I should get either walking liberties or barbers. Is there any reason to get one over the other?
Message: Posted by: rutabaga (Nov 9, 2008 11:09AM)
Barbers are thinner and generally softer, so better for stack work. Personally, I think they look nicer, too.
Message: Posted by: coinguy (Nov 9, 2008 12:46PM)
My only problem with the barbers and liberties is that I like really shiny coins because I use the retention pass a lot, and the shinyness of the coin only aids in the effect. This is the only reason I consider getting a Kennedy set. Do you think it is worth it?
Message: Posted by: MortenN (Nov 9, 2008 03:31PM)
Don't look at the cost, buy what you like if you should have the stuff the rest of your life.
Message: Posted by: montymagi (Nov 19, 2008 10:23AM)
If you have the money it is really worth the investment to go with the Deans set. It makes more than just a little diffrence.
Message: Posted by: Joshua Barrett (Nov 19, 2008 12:48PM)
I still perfer expanded. the deans set inserts are noticable smaller by sight and by feel. also your limited to only those coins. this matters when you need a 5th or 6th coin.

its much simpiler just to learn to handle coins without milled edges
Message: Posted by: morgandollarman (Nov 19, 2008 04:07PM)
Absolutely agree with you there Joshua,expanded is the way to go.
Message: Posted by: coinguy (Nov 19, 2008 05:09PM)
I am not interested in the dean's set for the edges, I am only interested because of the great side coverage.
Message: Posted by: morgandollarman (Nov 19, 2008 05:56PM)
Hey coinguy,you don't need a deans set for great side coverage...I have a lassen expanded shell that looks awesome ..also jamies are good but lassens shells are more sturdy.
Message: Posted by: Joshua Barrett (Nov 20, 2008 12:11AM)
Side coverage is not any different assumung you get one from jamie or todd
Message: Posted by: resshin (Nov 23, 2008 06:35AM)
I would go with a Dean's set for any soft, dollar sized coins and an expanded set for anything else.
Message: Posted by: Mr. Ray (Nov 23, 2008 06:39AM)
I'd prefer expanded shell set for soft coins
Message: Posted by: coinguy (Nov 23, 2008 06:00PM)
I have decided on a dean's set walking liberty for a variety of reasons. One, the unexpanded shell looks beautiful from the sides and side of coin with the opening of the shell facing you (nearly invisible). Two, the walking liberty design itself is beautiful. and three, they are semi soft which allows them to not "talk" but still have good detail on the faces. Out of curiosity of those who own a walking liberty set, how shiny are the coins, are the darkened, dull, shiny, etc? From the pictures on coinvanish.com they appear to be fairly dull looking.