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Topic: "Useless and Pointless Knowledge"
Message: Posted by: John Kokot (Apr 22, 2003 03:53PM)
Like Willie "The Actor" Sutton who robbed banks, "because that's where the money was," this posting is being placed on "Pick a card...any card," because that's where the readers are. The moderators may, of course, deem it more appropriate for another forum.

Having more time than sense, I arbitrarily extracted the following 12 types of magic from the Café's menu: card, money, ring & string, illusion, box, rope, handkerchief, stage manipulation, animal, bizarre, mental, and escape.

Creating categories in this way is fraught with questionable methodological assumptions. Why omit "Fire Magic," for example? And is Paul Curry's "Out of This World" card magic or mental magic? And why wasn't "Pasteboard frolics" included with card magic or stage manipulation? Not to mention failing to combine bizarre magic and mental magic. Should silk magic have been included in box magic or stage manipulation? Who says the categories have to be mutually exclusive? What's worse is that this dubious data is being presented without a commensurate amount of analysis, making the whole endeavor even more feckless.

Still, I thought you might want to know:

If you add the posts in these 12 categories, the sum is 64,250. Card magic leads the way with 28,671 (44 percent) of these 64,250 posts. Mental magic is next at 17 percent, followed by money magic (15%), rings and strings (6%), bizarre (5%), illusions (4%), stage manipulation (3%), and the remaining categories all reporting in a one percent each.

Capitalists might be disturbed to note that for every "Tricky business" posting, there are 56 card-magic postings. Those of philosophical bent may take comfort in knowing that the ratio of card magic postings to "Food for thought" postings is "only" 5.9 to 1.

Enjoy or ignore at your whim!
Message: Posted by: frogman (Apr 22, 2003 03:57PM)
I believe this post belongs in the "Too much time on your hands" forum... what are the stats on that? :goof:
Message: Posted by: inidyls (Apr 22, 2003 04:08PM)
HUH? :fruity:
Message: Posted by: Jonathan Townsend (Apr 22, 2003 04:11PM)
Not sure if this falls into the "lack of evidence is not evidence of lack" discussion. Perhaps the medium of cards is more accessible than the algebra of ideas in philosophy or concealments and transfers required in coin magic. The more facile may take reassurance from the Lincoln quote about lies and statistics.

Keeping this on topic, when the language of the opening post is shuffled, and dealt into five hands, one can deal out a few good poker hands.

-Jon
Message: Posted by: Larry Davidson (Apr 22, 2003 05:22PM)
Re. statistics - -

Did you know that the lottery is God's way of teaching statistics to poor people?

Did you know that 64.3% of all statistics are made up?

Oh, to stay on topic, here's something useless I know about cards...the deck of cards was probably invented in ancient China or 12th/13th century Egypt. Here's something I don't know for sure but my guess is that it would be pretty difficult to perform a tabled faro shuffle today with one of those original decks. :baby:
Message: Posted by: Arellion (Apr 22, 2003 05:24PM)
There was a song called the playing card spng back in the fifties with tons of useless statistics.

Incidently I am typing with a card palmed to practice. Impressive, huh? No? Oh ok.
Message: Posted by: Schaden (Apr 22, 2003 05:24PM)
Settle down college boys.

Lee :lol: :lol:
Message: Posted by: Alessandro Scotti (Apr 22, 2003 05:47PM)
[quote]
On 2003-04-22 18:24, Arellion wrote:
Incidently I am typing with a card palmed to practice. Impressive, huh? No? Oh ok.
[/quote]
I have played a good part of Bach's Toccata with a coin palmed. Unfortunately that's not much impressive either, provided that: a) you can play Bach's Toccata; and b) you can palm a coin. :)
Message: Posted by: Alessandro Scotti (Apr 22, 2003 05:55PM)
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Re. statistics
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Bah. Statistics is the science that says if you put your head in the fridge, someone in the world must put his bottom in the oven.

But speaking of cards and useless knowledge, do you know that all kings have mustaches except one? Go check! :)
Message: Posted by: Hideo Kato (Apr 22, 2003 06:05PM)
We have "Up In Smoke" which is the forum for Fire Magic.
We have "Inner Thoughts" in the Secret Session which is the forum for Mental Magic.
Is it appropiate to make "Out Of This World" as a category?
Ratio 5.9 : 1 means Card Magic is mush popular, isn't it?

By the way, you are OK you manipulate cards when you are doing somethingelse by yourself. But don't do it while you are talking with me.

Hideo Kato
Message: Posted by: Payne (Apr 22, 2003 06:42PM)
[quote]
On 2003-04-22 18:22, Larry D. wrote:

Oh, to stay on topic, here's something useless I know about cards...the deck of cards was probably invented in ancient China or 12th/13th century Egypt.
[/quote]

Best guess today is that cards made their first apperance in 14th century India or perhaps Persia and arrived in Europe, most likely Italy, around 1350 or so.
Message: Posted by: Jonathan Townsend (Apr 22, 2003 07:00PM)
Does this mean we have marco polo to blame for the 21 card trick?
Message: Posted by: Larry Davidson (Apr 22, 2003 07:24PM)
No, but we do have him to blame for people drowning in swimming pools.
Message: Posted by: Clayman (Apr 22, 2003 08:08PM)
Could someone please explain this thread in say.."English"
Message: Posted by: Peter Marucci (Apr 22, 2003 10:00PM)
Three statisticians go hunting.
They see a deer.
The one on the right fires his gun and the shot goes to the right, missing the deer.
The one on the left fires his gun and the shot goes to the left, missing the deer.
The statistician in the middle jumps up and exclaims: "We got him!"
Message: Posted by: RandyStewart (Apr 22, 2003 11:26PM)
[quote]
On 2003-04-22 23:00, Peter Marucci wrote:
Three statisticians go hunting.
They see a deer.
The one on the right fires his gun and the shot goes to the right, missing the deer.
The one on the left fires his gun and the shot goes to the left, missing the deer.
The statistician in the middle jumps up and exclaims: "We got him!"
[/quote]

I just figured out what's wrong with the world.
Message: Posted by: Chris Berry (Apr 22, 2003 11:48PM)
Is it just me or does this thread remind anyone else of Monty Python?


chris
Message: Posted by: RandyStewart (Apr 23, 2003 12:07AM)
No Seismic, Peter is right....and so am I....period.
Hehehe.

Long live Python!
Message: Posted by: Alessandro Scotti (Apr 23, 2003 03:18AM)
[quote]
On 2003-04-23 01:07, RandyStewart wrote:

No Seismic, Peter is right....and so am I....period.
[/quote]

Darn, I must be wrong then.
Message: Posted by: Payne (Apr 23, 2003 10:22AM)
There are three types of people in the world
Liars, *** Liars and Statisticians
Mark Twain
Message: Posted by: Chrystal (Apr 23, 2003 01:27PM)
I agree with Inidyls

:fruity: Huh?
Message: Posted by: Larry Davidson (Apr 23, 2003 09:00PM)
What's the solution to having too much time on your hands? Performing a watch steal on yourself?