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Topic: Pendragons New Illusion DVD set
Message: Posted by: magictim (Jan 11, 2009 02:15PM)
I just ran across this at the l&l site: http://www.llpub.com/zenshop/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=2574

It's sounds awesome. They are tipping their subtrunk methods and cloth handling.
I can't wait until I get it.

"Stage illusionists historically have been extremely secretive about their craft. Not just about the secrets to the illusions themselves— the mechanics are just a small part—but about the real secrets of what turns a stage illusion into a breathtaking moment of pure magic.

Now, for the first time ever on video, Jonathan and Charlotte Pendragon, the “First Couple” of magic and perhaps the greatest exponents of grand illusion ever to grace a stage, lift away the veil and show you the real secrets of stage illusion —the insider information that could only be gained by performing in over 50 countries for the last quarter of a century.

Keep in mind that while these unprecedented DVDs are not so much about the illusions as much as the illusionists (in other words, there are no building plans included though the secret sare frequently disclosed and discussed), Jonathan and Charlotte share their personal philosophy of performing and the inspirations that led to the creation of their most famous illusions. You’ll also learn about the importance of transition effects, choreography, staging and a myriad of other details about how to stage a professional illusion show that only a handful of people in the world are truly capable of sharing. Electrifying live performance footage of the illusions is interspersed with discussions about them with both Jonathan and Charlotte. Also included as bonus material is a fascinating interview with Jonathan by magician Patrick Martin.

This four-volume DVD set will be fascinating for all who love magic. However, for those who actually perform—or aspire to perform—grand illusion, they’re absolutely priceless."



Volume 1
2 hours 18 minutes

THE HINDU BASKET
Introduction
History & Concepts
Why Not To Use Fire
Sword Choice And Safety
Basic Swordsmanship
The Foulard
How To Get Into The Basket
Placing The Swords In The Basket

COLOR OF EMOTION
Introduction and Concepts
Materials, Preparation and Presentation

THE SHADOW BOX
The Work

CLEARLY IMPOSSIBLE
History and Discussion

BONUS MATERIAL

An in-depth interview with Jonathan Pendragon by Patrick Martin (Part 1)

Volume 2
2 hours 10 minutes

METAMORPHOSIS
History
Trunk Props
Foulard
Trunk
Costume Change
In And Out Of Bag
Trunk Switch
Hourglass
Split Foulard
Safety

BONUS MATERIAL
An in-depth interview with Jonathan Pendragon by Patrick Martin (Part 2)

Volume 3
2 hours 10 minutes

THE LINKING RINGS
The Linking Rings Explanation
The Linking Rings Timing And Safety

SANDS OF EGYPT
Sands Of Egypt Explanation

THE KELLAR ROPE TIE
The Kellar Rope Tie Explanation

HEAD TWISTER
Demonstration And Explanation

THE WORLD’S GREATEST FEET OF MAGIC
Performance And Explanation

BONUS MATERIAL
An in-depth interview with Jonathan Pendragon by Patrick Martin (Part 3)

Volume 4
2 hours 12 minutes

THE BROOM SUSPENSION
(SWORD SUSPENSION)
History
Harness Explanation
Demonstration
The Hoop

LEVITATION
360 Degree Levitation Discussion
360 Degree Levitation Demonstration
360 Degree Levitation Hoop Passes

THE IMPALEMENT
Advice
Description
Demonstration

THE ELECTION
Introduction And History
Blammo And Explanation
Leg Drop Switch

INTERLUDE
Interlude History
Message: Posted by: Christopher Starr (Jan 11, 2009 07:16PM)
How did I miss this? Sounds great - thanks for the link Tim.
Message: Posted by: hocuspocusjay23 (Jan 11, 2009 09:12PM)
This sounds really cool. Seems like like its going to be a very interesting DVD. Can't wait to see it.
Message: Posted by: magic4u02 (Jan 11, 2009 09:15PM)
This does sound interesting, and I did not realize they were putting this out. Excellent information, I am sure.

Kyle
Message: Posted by: Matthew W (Jan 11, 2009 10:09PM)
Does anyone know if murphys will be carrying it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcdtiE5UbC0
Message: Posted by: pepka (Jan 12, 2009 12:30AM)
I don't own a single illusion, don't ever plan on performing an illusion. Will I be picking thse up? You bet your bippy. Jonathan's knowledge can be utilized in any branch of magic. Plus, Char is hot.
Message: Posted by: GERRIT (Jan 12, 2009 09:11AM)
This sounds intersting. Hope somebody in Europe will sell it.
Message: Posted by: j.i.s. (Jan 12, 2009 09:20AM)
But I am curious how are made these dvd's I mean Jonathan show the real interlude or the real levitation apparatus like mask jerk ?
I imagine that is about the presentation and other aspects but did he show the apparatus like in M M series
Message: Posted by: Matthew W (Jan 12, 2009 09:47AM)
It says Interlude history. The levitation says discussion and demonstration. I am assuming the hoop passes are ones that can be applied to many different levitations. The hoop pass he does for the pole levitation is incredible. I saw it live and could not believe it.

I don't think L&L would put their reputation and business on the line by revealing illusions that have to be bought from an authorized builder.
Message: Posted by: Kyle^Ravin (Jan 12, 2009 10:30AM)
I've been waiting for this for a long long time! Even told the pendragons that they should come up with something like this in a post long ago.( They're on the Café) I'm really happy this is out. Just ordered the 4 volume set! WHOOOOO!
Message: Posted by: Grandillusionsmagic (Jan 12, 2009 11:52AM)
I just got this fyi
Date Ordered: Monday 12 January, 2009

The comments for your order are

Pendragons should be in stock 01/19/2009 will ship ASAP
Message: Posted by: magictim (Jan 12, 2009 01:20PM)
L&L has a special that if you order more than $100 you get the Greg Wilson in Action dvd set for free. Good timing for all who want to pick up the Pendragon set. Double of what you're paying for.
Message: Posted by: Blair Marshall (Jan 12, 2009 01:34PM)
Magictim, a lot of their specials have ended (just before the new releases) would be interested if this offer is still on. I will check, but in meantime do you have link?

Blair
Message: Posted by: magictim (Jan 12, 2009 01:47PM)
http://www.llpub.com/ is the address that appears when I click the link from the email they sent me. The special was listed on my invoice.
Message: Posted by: Blair Marshall (Jan 12, 2009 05:15PM)
Thank-you.

Blair

(P.S. I wasn't there when I looked before, so not sure what's up, maybe my end!)
Message: Posted by: aboycemagic (Jan 12, 2009 06:10PM)
I want to by it
Message: Posted by: euroillusion (Jan 12, 2009 10:27PM)
This will be fantastic for anyone wanting to perform direct powerful strong illusions. I'm sure their insight will be invaluable. Just look at the 1980s Best of Magic series and you can see how ahead of their time the Pendragons were! Some are very simple (in terms of plot and presentation) but just so powerful pieces of illusion. Have you seen the midair suspension vanish? Incredible...
Message: Posted by: magictim (Jan 15, 2009 01:36PM)
They should be in stock and shipping tomorrow and saturday, I'm getting anxious.
Message: Posted by: wanmagic (Jan 16, 2009 03:22PM)
I just talked with Charlotte and she indicated that the illusions like 360 levi, interlude, and impaled etc are tips for those who have them. The 360 levi and Clearly impossible one will still need to purchase performing rights from them if you are going to do them. Just FYI for the group.
Message: Posted by: paw (Jan 16, 2009 03:35PM)
Hey guys,
I just viewed the DVD’s. They are GREAT!!! Some of the best money you will ever spend if you are a stage / parlor / platform performer. The tips and advice alone are well worth the price of the DVD’s!
My highest recommendation!
Message: Posted by: Jazz (Jan 17, 2009 12:24AM)
Sounds great. But I am little confused still. They show you how to perform say, Clearly Impossible, but you'd still have to get the rights from them to perform it? Well, without plans I guess that's a given anyway. Looks like great history.
Put me down for one set.
Message: Posted by: wanmagic (Jan 17, 2009 12:44AM)
Yes, performing rights would need to be paid for Clearly impossible.
Message: Posted by: CMMAGIC (Jan 17, 2009 02:43AM)
I am looking forward to this video arriving . I don't buy many vid's but this one seems to be a must have . Ill give you all a FULL REVIEW soon
Message: Posted by: magictim (Jan 17, 2009 06:07PM)
I just got mine in today and am watching vol 2 on the metamorphosis. This dvd with the inside scoop of the fastest switch out there is worth the price of the set. I'll post more when I finish watching the set.
Message: Posted by: deliveryboy (Jan 19, 2009 10:19AM)
Great dvd set
Message: Posted by: Banester (Jan 19, 2009 10:21AM)
Sounds like a great value.

Why is it that when ever a new item comes out everyone (most everyone) who promotes it has less than 50 posts? It really makes me laugh.
Message: Posted by: paw (Jan 19, 2009 12:21PM)
They are in stock at Murphy’s Magic Supplies.
Message: Posted by: Hansel (Jan 19, 2009 01:47PM)
[quote]
On 2009-01-12 01:30, pepka wrote:
I don't own a single illusion, don't ever plan on performing an illusion. Will I be picking thse up? You bet your bippy. Jonathan's knowledge can be utilized in any branch of magic. Plus, Char is hot.
[/quote]


I agree a 150% with you!!!
I don't plan to be a super illusionist but this can't be passed up!
Message: Posted by: Jazz (Jan 20, 2009 12:10PM)
Just ordered mine.
Message: Posted by: paw (Jan 20, 2009 01:03PM)
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Sounds like a great value.

Why is it that when ever a new item comes out everyone (most everyone) who promotes it has less than 50 posts? It really makes me laugh.

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Banester,
Why does that make you laugh?
Does the number of posts constitute greater or lesser Knowledge?
Message: Posted by: Nachtzehrer (Jan 20, 2009 07:40PM)
Even though you have to pay for performance rights for clearly impossible, is it explained on the DVD or are only performance tips??
Message: Posted by: ClintonMagus (Jan 20, 2009 08:51PM)
Jonathan explains the history of the illusion and how it came to be in the form in which it exists now. He also explains the thought process that should be utilized when deciding whether an illusion should be added to your show (specifically, a Thin Model Sawing, in this case).

It's more than performance "tips", but you couldn't build your own from the information provided on the DVD.
Message: Posted by: Lou Hilario (Jan 21, 2009 03:57PM)
Do you think that this would promote more illusionists? Will we be seeing more baskets, interludes, clearly impossible and other illusions exposed in the dvd?
Message: Posted by: Chezaday (Jan 24, 2009 02:12PM)
I dropped some cash and I've got my set sitting right on my dresser, still sealed in the plastic. I really believe in the Pendragons and their work .. I'm sure it's well worth the money. If you're into illusions .. this should be in your collection.

I'll watch a little at a time .. I don't like to rush through things.

Steve
Message: Posted by: SpellbinderEntertainment (Jan 24, 2009 06:21PM)
On “Magic of the Pendragons” Four-Volume DVD Set

Magic is -or should be- innovative. And whether the timeless Sword Basket and Hindu Sands, or their own creations like the Blammo Box and Interlude, the Pendragons have proved again and again that their success in the Magical Arts, as world-class entertainers, begins and ends with Innovation.

Along with actual past-show clips from their enduring career, the Jonathan and Charlotte of ”today” talk frankly and intimately about what makes each illusion gel and work, and what elements in preparation and performance are necessary to successfully stage and elegantly execute each piece.

As master inventors, entertainers, technicians, creators -and yes- innovators, this pair take nothing for granted, and each facet of an illusion is examined, dissected, and reassembled, so you as a magician, know if a piece will fit your style and if it’s right for your investment and time.

Many of the “greats” performed before the advent of film, and the nuances of their acts and style is lost to us forever, however in this case we are privileged to watch two experts of illusion share their thirty-plus years of entertainment with us, we’re getting the real-deal from the “horses’ mouth” so to speak.

My version of the Sword Basket called “Shanghai Kelly’s Chinatown Hamper” was OK… but lacked impact and depth, now listening to Jonathan talk about the theory and history of the illusion, and watching Charlotte re-create each move she does on stage under the cloth and in the basket, have prepared me to re-work my version for inclusion in the “Eccentrics of San Francisco’s Barbary Coast” show to be mounted at our San Francisco Magic Parlor. Just this one small segment of the four DVD set was worth many times the purchase price, as it provided valuable and insightful information I could not have obtained anywhere else!

This DVD set is for the “Thinking Magician” -for entertainers who want to co-create with the Pendragons, not mimic or mirror their classic performances. This knowledgeable couple is willing to let you in backstage, and hold back nothing of the sweat, tears, and triumphs which built their careers. All they ask is that you partner with them, listen to the advice, then go do something new and innovative of your own.

Thanks Louis and L&L, Jonathan and Charlotte, for giving the magic community and future generations of Grand Illusionists, the gift of these insights and efforts!

Magically,
Walt Anthony
San Francisco Magic Parlor
Message: Posted by: amazingcarrington (Jan 26, 2009 12:54AM)
My wife and son are at our vacation home. Ahhh...finally a quiet evening to sit down and watch one of these DVD's uninterupted.

I started with DVD #3.....wonderful Linking Ring routine and suggestions, Sands Illusion, Head Twister....

Every illusion so well thought out....each move with a purpose.....the info does as it should....make one think and re-think one's own material.

Money well spent and time watching well invested.

Carrington
Message: Posted by: Powermagic (Jan 26, 2009 09:09AM)
Not to be a downer here but this release makes me sad. After seeing them on Amercias Got Talent I thought they were trying to come back. Does this mean that the injuries sustained prevents a touring or performance schedule? One of their larger secrets was their split curtain. Does this mean they do not plan on using it anymore? Why else then GIVE IT AWAY. Yes my friends, I think they are going way to cheap on their secrets. I hope they do no tthink they will cash in by selling millions on these.
This is my point. In magic's early history, secrets were closely protected all the way up to the 1920's. Top illusions were not just sold to anyone who would be willing to pay a small sum.
I know it bugs some magicians today. They feel they are ENTITLED to secrets just because they call themselves a "magician" They get so upset if someone does not tip a secret after showing them at their latest magic meeting. Many do not have any respect for someones routine or secret anymore. Not all but many do feel that secrets are AUTOMATICALLY shared.
Magicians forget that we do this to our audience all the time when they ask "How did you do that?" and we do not tell.
I for one believe is someone wants to give me their magic, I will take it if I need it. That is their doing not mine. However, I will not ask someone at a convention or club how something works, especially if I do not intend to ever perform it.
So when someone like McBride or Pendragon wants to give their secrets away, for $35, you bet I am interested. However I can not feel torn that they are giving up the secrets for the wrong reasons or for reasons unfortunate like needing the cash flow.
Now in the case with some, if not all, of the McBride videos, he is either showing you something he does not perform in shows or is showing you something that HE KNOWS MOST will never be able to do as well has he. (Like how some will demo a second deal, esplain the method and yet the spectator still can not figure out how they do it so well.)

So I bring this up since one already stated that on on of the Pendragon videos, the explanations are just tips and not going to teach you how to build it nor give performance rights (but how will they know most no televised performers are using it...) OK this makes a little more sense. (giving away something most will not be able to own anyway)

SO what about video #2. Can one learn how to perform the full effect as they used to perform it from this DVD? What is left out if not? Gee for the price it is a steal. (although I think their exchange method, as I was told, is not practical for most performers (angles)

Still sad to see it out there for anyone to buy. Good for me at that price but still wonder about the reason to put out these videos. Right off the bat I did think "well if you do not own these props, you are still going to have to invst in buying or building them before using the tips and I would bet they do not give plans or dimensions in this series, correct?
Message: Posted by: ClintonMagus (Jan 26, 2009 09:30AM)
They are still performing Metamorphosis with the split curtain and are performing it very well. Because of his injuries, there are just some things that Jonathan realizes he can't do as well as before.

There are no dimensions or building information given. Most of the series is about performance tips.
Message: Posted by: Kyle^Ravin (Jan 26, 2009 11:20AM)
I recieved the dvds 3 days ago and I must say, I watched them all in a row! The metamorphosis dvd is AMAZING and there are loads of insights for illusionists. Its really a brilliant buy!
Message: Posted by: Chezaday (Jan 26, 2009 11:47AM)
I think the point of this project is to help performers improve their acts .. not just to give things away. I still haven't had time to watch the set, and I think it's unfair for you to comment on them, when you haven't seen them.

I think there is more to the story here, the background and development to many of the illusions are included. It is important to understand some of the thoughts and theories when adding an illusion to your show.

I know both Charlotte and Jonathan are passionate about their work .. they would never "sell-out."

Steve
Message: Posted by: Mark Holstein (Jan 26, 2009 02:29PM)
I don't post much, but I was surprised by some of the less than positive comments here. I've seen 3 of the 4 DVDs. They are, in a word, extraordinary. I suspect (but don't really know)that part of the motivation here was to document an impressive and even historic body of work. Can anyone credibly dispute that the Pendragon's version of Metamorphosis is the final word on this illusion? Not me. To have the details documented in this way creates a record of this work for generations to come. What we wouldn't give to have this type of record of Thurston's or Kellar's work.

Beyond this important value, the DVDs show the detailed thought and hard work that has gone into these illusions. Charlotte and Jonathon take many years of hard fought experience on each of these effects and pull it together neatly. Any one who thinks they'll be able to put together their own presentations without similar blood, sweat and tears is missing the point. There is much to learn here.
Message: Posted by: ClintonMagus (Jan 26, 2009 03:36PM)
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On 2009-01-26 15:29, Mark Holstein wrote:
I don't post much, but I was surprised by some of the less than positive comments here.

[/quote]

I guess I missed those. The comments from those who have watched the DVDs seem to be overwhelmingly positive...

One thing I was surprised at when I saw them last year was Jonathan's candor when talking to me, knowing I was fairly knowledgeable about illusion. He told me about many of the struggles he (they) had faced since the accident and he told me about some of the changes they had made (and were making) to accommodate his newfound limitations.

In this age when so many famous folks don't even have the time of day for regular folks like me, their attitudes were very refreshing.
Message: Posted by: Powermagic (Jan 30, 2009 10:11PM)
The point of the prject is to help performers improve their act in vid #2 dedicated fully to one effect. Hmmm. So it does NOT teach how they perform the effect and just talk theory. If so I am wrong but if they are teaching or showing their methods they are giving it away for $35 a disk. I do not think I have to see the video, if the L&L description is accurate. However if they do not expose their methods, then I will admit I should have seen the disk first but based one what I read in the ad, they are also showing "the work"
Maybe someone who has seen it can verify.

Look, you know them so you are taking my comments personal. I admire and respect their work over the years. This is why I was more concerned that for something they wil not sell allot of over time nor make it rich off since they do not have one card trick for the average magician who buys stuff out there, it still seems to me that there is more to the story than just wanting to preserve something for the magic archives.
Thre are only a few reasons to GIVE AWAY secrets. To make money, because you need money or you do not care about the secret any more (and want to cash in) If a secret is that special, that creative, that much work put into it, why expose it to any kid with $35 of birthday money? Many magicians forget the power of the secret. They do not live up to the old ways.

SOmeone else commented how many magicians wold give so much to see some of the works on film of the greats of the 1920's or earlier. First let me tell you. I have Thruston Illusion Show Work Book which does this in pictures and you might be let down. It is amazing how worn and beat up the props were and one wonders if the illusion of history is greater than these shows ever really were...
But we also have to admire people like HOOKER who did not just sell his secrets to his card rises. This makes magicians even this day, even after the recent show they did of the act, if these were the exact methods and if so, the majority of the people fooled and saw this recreation, were not tipped off at the end. The secret was not put on DVD after the show, an impractical one at that. I am sure many of us would LOVE to see it. But most would never USE it so why would we be entitled to the secret.
But as I said, in the case of some of the Pendragon material. If they want to give it away for cheap, I will take it...

[quote]
On 2009-01-26 12:47, Chezaday wrote:
I think the point of this project is to help performers improve their acts .. not just to give things away. I still haven't had time to watch the set, and I think it's unfair for you to comment on them, when you haven't seen them.

I think there is more to the story here, the background and development to many of the illusions are included. It is important to understand some of the thoughts and theories when adding an illusion to your show.

I know both Charlotte and Jonathan are passionate about their work .. they would never "sell-out."

Steve
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Message: Posted by: Xiqual (Jan 31, 2009 07:19AM)
[quote]
On 2009-01-30 23:11, Powermagic wrote:
The point of the prject is to help performers improve their act in vid #2 dedicated fully to one effect. Hmmm. So it does NOT teach how they perform the effect and just talk theory. If so I am wrong but if they are teaching or showing their methods they are giving it away for $35 a disk. I do not think I have to see the video, if the L&L description is accurate. However if they do not expose their methods, then I will admit I should have seen the disk first but based one what I read in the ad, they are also showing "the work"
Maybe someone who has seen it can verify.
[/quote]

There is so much more to performing illusions than the secret. If you want to do the sub trunk, you have to buy one or at least plans to the trunk itself.
DVD 2 is mainly all the little things that make this illusion great.
James
Message: Posted by: Powermagic (Jan 31, 2009 02:41PM)
You can spout that sort of stuff all you want, it does not erase the fact that if you have a backstage view, are being taught how they perform it, it is exposure no matter if you are a magician or not.

[quote]
On 2009-01-31 08:19, Xiqual wrote:
[quote]
On
There is so much more to performing illusions than the secret. If you want to do the sub trunk, you have to buy one or at least plans to the trunk itself.
DVD 2 is mainly all the little things that make this illusion great.
James
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Message: Posted by: Xiqual (Feb 1, 2009 06:22AM)
I suppose you learned from the secret order of Mason's which under penalty of death you must not reveal the secrets right?

Are you a performer? I am. I work 5 or 6 paid shows a week on stage for strangers under all kinds of conditions. I hate to be the one to break the news to you, but audience members pretty much know it's a trick. From there it's not a far jump to think there must be a hole in the box. The magic comes from efficient and elegant movement. That is what is being taught.

The subtrunk has already been done by the masked magician, we all yawned and then forgot about it.

By your standard, all books and DVDs are exposure. If that is your opinion, we have nothing to discuss really.
James


[quote]
On 2009-01-31 15:41, Powermagic wrote:
You can spout that sort of stuff all you want, it does not erase the fact that if you have a backstage view, are being taught how they perform it, it is exposure no matter if you are a magician or not.

[quote]
On 2009-01-31 08:19, Xiqual wrote:
[quote]
On
There is so much more to performing illusions than the secret. If you want to do the sub trunk, you have to buy one or at least plans to the trunk itself.
DVD 2 is mainly all the little things that make this illusion great.
James
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Message: Posted by: Powermagic (Feb 2, 2009 05:12PM)
Boy your really are not thinking this over. Don't worry, most magicians live in this illusion.

ERRR Duh, YEAH any DVD or BOOK telling you how the magic is done IS exposure of the illusion. RIGHT? What else is it then. Sorry you do not like the word "exposure" but that is all it is and I understand you do not want to admit that.

OK, if the method to your "tricks" are not important and obvious to your audience as you say, I will stand in front of your show as they walk in and hand out a pamplet describing each and every one of your effects and how you do them with photos and stuff and lets see if your reactions are as strong.

Please I have heard this argument before and it is weak. Secrets are important.
If you do not think so. call yourself a clown or storyteller but not a magician.

BTW, while YOU know the subtrunk and while the masked freak might have showed a method, the viewers do not know if it is the real method.
AND THANK YOU for supporting my view point. What made the Pendragons different, how they twisted the minds of magicians and even those who saw the Masked show, is that they did it so fast and had the split cloth that most, even though they new it had to work like the box they had at home, still could not get the speed or know how to have a cloth split down the middle and not see the transformation in progress.
I say most since I assume you are going to say you found it easy to figure out.

SO yes, I still stand that if what they did was different and special and they are selling it for $35, yes I do have some sadness about it.


Oh and PS, they way I do it, I have them up on stage get in the box kick it and all sorts of stuff and NO Sorry to break it to you, MY audience never suspects a HOLE in the box since they have seen it examined and shown from every angle.

Sorry yours is so obvious
Message: Posted by: Xiqual (Feb 3, 2009 03:02AM)
LOL, anyway, have a great day.
James
ps
May I suggest anger management classes?
Message: Posted by: James Adamson (Feb 15, 2009 06:52PM)
This set of DVDs should be seen by all magicians not just illusionists. There are so many great tips and ideas provided.

I must say I was surprised on how much detail that they go into Metamorphosis. Basically every aspect is covered!

Another thing that comes clear in the DVDs is how important Charlotte is to presenting the effects so strongly. She is incredibly strong and that allows them to use much smaller h****** than most would use. Jonathan actually says that she is much more than an assistant, which is definitely true. By theirselves they would not be near the same caliber they are together.

The only misleading item is the listing under the Levitation section of the DVD.
" Levitation
360 Degree Levitation Discussion
360 Degree Levitation Demonstration
360 Degree Levitation Hoop Passes"

It leads one to beleive that they are going to tip all the 360 levitation which they do not. He does show the original prototype, but the leviation is never shown performed and no in-depth discussion of the handling is provided. However, this in my opinion is a L&L mistake (should have not been listed on the ad copy), not a purposely left out section. Besides it really does not matter that the 360 info is not deeper as the DVDs really are speaking more to the performance of the effects and the handling tips rather than the method.

Even if you do not perform illusions you can and will learn from the DVDs. For those that are doing illusions, you definitely need these DVDs.

And yes they are still performing as they will be at The Winter Carnival Convention in about 3 weeks from now doing the entire saturday evening show. I can not wait to see them.
Message: Posted by: Jay Mahon (Mar 15, 2009 08:27PM)
If you are looking for a good review of them check out these:

http://magiciansreview.blogspot.com/2009/02/pendragons-dvd-volume-1.html

http://magiciansreview.blogspot.com/2009/03/pendragons-dvd-vol-2-sub-trunk.html

http://magiciansreview.blogspot.com/2009/03/magic-of-pendragons-volume-3.html

J
Message: Posted by: Christopher Starr (Toronto) (Mar 25, 2009 07:34AM)
I ordered my full set 2 weeks ago and they are still in the mail. That will teach me to live up here in Canada! Can't wait to get them though, and all your reviews make me sure that they will be worth the wait. I'll let you know soon.