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Topic: Comedy help
Message: Posted by: MichaelOzMagic (Feb 26, 2009 03:56PM)
Hey everyone I was looking for a good comedy trick or a trick that you could make funny please tell me what you would recomend.
Message: Posted by: Larry Bean (Feb 26, 2009 05:44PM)
So many choices - - Professor Cheers Comedy Rope trick always gets good laughs - but many others do too.
Message: Posted by: Brian Lehr (Feb 26, 2009 06:07PM)
Vanishing Bandanna
Cereal Killer
Mindreading Orange (Kaplan)
Message: Posted by: Comedy Writer (Feb 26, 2009 07:19PM)
Hi magician,

Comedy depends less on the trick and more on the performer.

CW
Message: Posted by: jocdoc (Feb 27, 2009 12:37AM)
I agree. While some tricks/props are inherently funny (e.g. comedy miniature magic wallet), its really up to an individual performers style/presentation that makes/breaks a bit.
Message: Posted by: Floyd Collins (Feb 27, 2009 05:35AM)
How big do you want the effect to be,, are you looking for stage??? Check out Thoughts Transmitter 2000, it kills for larger audiences.
Message: Posted by: Ian Keable (Feb 27, 2009 05:13PM)
If you think 'funny' then it's possible to make almost any trick amusing. Because I'm a comedy magician, I will always try to find an angle on a trick that will make the audience laugh. Personally I find I'm most successful at this with tricks that involve some sort of audience participation. I find it quite difficult to be funny with a trick when just standing with a prop and talking generally to the audience.

But that's me - you may well be different. As others have pointed out it's very hard to generalise. I think you should find a trick which you enjoy doing and then look for ways of making that funny - rather than looking for a 'funny' trick.

In my book, Stand-Up, A Professional Guide to Comedy Magic, I try to set out some guidelines how to be funny with any trick. Might be worth checking out if anybody you know has found it useful: it wouldn't be right for me to plug my own book!
Message: Posted by: raywitko (Feb 28, 2009 03:00PM)
Usually anything with a duck.
Ray
Message: Posted by: Magic Enhancer (Mar 1, 2009 05:20AM)
I second the Thoughts Transmitter 2000 and the Amazing Mystical Vanishing Bandana! :)

Robert Haas
Message: Posted by: Floyd Collins (Mar 1, 2009 07:01AM)
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On 2009-02-27 18:13, Ian Keable wrote:
If you think 'funny' then it's possible to make almost any trick amusing. Because I'm a comedy magician, I will always try to find an angle on a trick that will make the audience laugh. Personally I find I'm most successful at this with tricks that involve some sort of audience participation. I find it quite difficult to be funny with a trick when just standing with a prop and talking generally to the audience.

But that's me - you may well be different. As others have pointed out it's very hard to generalise. I think you should find a trick which you enjoy doing and then look for ways of making that funny - rather than looking for a 'funny' trick.

In my book, Stand-Up, A Professional Guide to Comedy Magic, I try to set out some guidelines how to be funny with any trick. Might be worth checking out if anybody you know has found it useful: it wouldn't be right for me to plug my own book!
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that's right Ian, it would not be right hehe!! So let me do it for you!

I agree that you can make any trick funny, but not everyone can write funny lines nor does every line translate into being funning. I say you arm yourself with tried and true working tricks and add yours in so you can work them till they are funny. Once you have the experience as Ian has you can then start to replace your commercial effects with ones you have created yourself. One very good point that Ian makes in his book is that you will script and re script and script again till you get the right amount of laughs from your trick. By starting with a tried and tested effect you have at least assured yourself that you have something to get a laugh with.

Some effects are a lot hard to get the response then others; I will give you an example: As Robert has said the Amazing Mystical Vanishing Bandana only requires you to be partly good at best with acting. You have no lines to memorize or timing issues because all the humor comes from the audio CD and what you are doing as a performer.
So a solid routine with a comedy spin that has played well for large audiences, small audience and even in comedy clubs. Having this trick in your show gives you at least one check mark for funny routine.

Now letís look at professorís nightmare. Typically not a comedy piece but if you work all the bits in the routine that can be funny you can make it into a comedy routine. To do this with your style of performing will require your own timing, and your own lines to make it funny. Not so easy to do if you yourself are not a very funny person or can spot the humor in a trick with ropes that change size.

What Ian book does for you in the above situation is give you the guidance for what to look for in a trick to convert it to a comedy piece. He does so with examples and he shares with you how other comedy magician performers script their tricks as well. I highly recommend anyone who does any comedy magic give Ian book a good read. Itís full of little nuggets that will help you get the most out of doing stand up.
With that said, I still feel you need a few go to pieces to get you started.

-Floyd
Message: Posted by: ROBERT BLAKE (Mar 1, 2009 09:27AM)
I can only say that because I have read ian's book STAND-UP it made me aware of certain points in my routine and personality. I can now write more easily comedy for my show because of the clear explanations in Ian's book.

Thanks Ian, for making me more funnier.
Message: Posted by: MichaelOzMagic (Mar 1, 2009 08:44PM)
Thanks everyone for posting something. Im 13 and ive been doing magic since I was 4 and I always done kids shows but now that I'm getting booked for a lot more things besides kid shows ive been wanting some more family type comedy effects.

thank you again
magician 4life
Message: Posted by: Comedy Writer (Mar 2, 2009 01:11PM)
...or a chicken.
Message: Posted by: jocdoc (Mar 4, 2009 01:20AM)
This may not be feasible for a 13 year old, but consider attending the Niagara Comedy Magic Seminar in early April. It's a great conference going on its 3rd year!

http://www.comedymagicseminar.com/
Message: Posted by: Floyd Collins (Mar 4, 2009 05:38AM)
I have a 15 year old daughter who is just now getting into comedy magic. She has been working the cards for about a year now and wants to do more stand up.
Here is what I started her out with.

Hold It Buster by Dan Harlan - this effect is funny and when done by a younger person with Dans script it just hits home.

Amazing Mystical Vanishing Bandana - By Magic Enhancer

The Comedy Come Back Card - By Marten Lewis

Vanishing Coke Bottle - My own version with a kick in the paints ending.

The Sadists Silk - by Dan Harlan - This is yet to be released to the public but will be soon.

Now here is why she is doing these effects.
1. They are all easy to re script to fit her personality and humor. At her age and yours it is important to learn how to do this. Having a good base to start with helps a lot. I have made it a must for her to try and change the scripting to fit her. This has been a great learning exsperance for her.
2. They play well for all ages even teens her age.
3. Each allows her to focus on the performance and not the effect.
4. They were all one time part of my show so I know they are a hit.

Hope this helps.

Floyd
Message: Posted by: DanHarlan (Mar 4, 2009 03:05PM)
Floyd--
Buddy, it's not the Sadist Silk! Its the World's Saddest Trick... although I will start working right away on the Sadist Silk, hahhahahahahha!
--Harlan
Message: Posted by: Floyd Collins (Mar 4, 2009 04:53PM)
Dan,

Well go figure I was going to change Hold it Buster to Hold it Buba too. At 6:30 am for me its Sadist Silk, after a pot of coffee its Worlds Saddest Trick.


Thanks for straiting me out on that Dan... hehe

--Floyd
Message: Posted by: Tom Lauten (Mar 5, 2009 06:59AM)
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On 2009-03-04 06:38, aceofharts wrote:

Vanishing Coke Bottle - My own version with a kick in the paints ending.

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Ok...I HAVE to ask...what is a kick in the "paints" like?

LOL!

...I'd love to hear what your ending is if you are feeling generous!
Message: Posted by: Floyd Collins (Mar 5, 2009 04:23PM)
Hehe well again 6:30 am --- Kick in the PANTS!!!

So here is the ending I use to do with the coke bottle. It gets a little more mileage out of the trick.
Like many magicians who perform the Vanishing Coke Bottle, I use a bag to display and hide the coke bottle. I then draw attention to an empty coke can that the bottle changed into. I do the normal hey itís a can hey itís a bottle bit, remove the can and set it aside. With a sad face I say ďyeah you knew the can of coke was in there the whole time didn't you! crunch up the can and toss it asideĒ Would you be more amazed if the bottle (show top of bottle) turned into a 10 foot pole? (Produce pole) crumble the bag and toss it aside. The pole is so unexpected and goes over very well.

that's not the complete script but you get the idea!

Now to invent the kick in the paints ending!hehe

Floyd