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Topic: Daniel Madison ADVOCATE -Review?
Message: Posted by: Marc Frese (Feb 28, 2009 08:10AM)
This looks promising.
http://www.danielmadison.co.uk/Advocate.html
I think it's very interesting.
Even the price seems ok!

Any review?

marc
Message: Posted by: JamieD (Mar 1, 2009 05:55AM)
Well, I downloaded this last night. The effects sounds great however, it's much to be desired. The book of course as with all Daniel Madison's stuff is well layed out and looks slick and cool. The method is, well, complicated and nacky to use. without being able to see what you are doing also. It can be made very easily which is a plus. Literally seconds. but again, it will take ALOT of getting used to. It will also take a long time to be able to perform it well. I like the idea's within the tricks and I will give one or two of them ago. There's lots of entra handlings and idea's in the book. He also begins the book by explaining how it is his favourate discovery to date. Persoanlly, I would put that as his last release "Wrath" which I couldn't recomend enough.

Overall, it's a good one to try and see what you think of it. I didn't think it was anything overly exciting but the amount of stuff you get in the book, the idea's and extra handlins are worht the money.

Jamie
Message: Posted by: lil_magic (Mar 1, 2009 11:25AM)
I downloaded it last night as well. Everything is exactly as it says, but it will take some practice. I think the ideal behind the method is good, but I think he could have brought the price down a bit. overall I give it a 6/10
Message: Posted by: sleightofhander (Mar 1, 2009 02:17PM)
I think this is a very useful tool and will be using it. Until you get faster with the method, you could have the spectator open a new sealed deck before they shuffle it. This will give you lots more time.
Message: Posted by: Thomas Kwon (Mar 1, 2009 04:01PM)
Then I will have to push this down the list of to-buy...
Message: Posted by: feifei (Mar 2, 2009 12:40AM)
I too prefer and liked Wrath more.
Message: Posted by: dylan magic (Mar 3, 2009 10:35AM)
And yet it has such names as Michael weber and dan white singing its praises..strange it has a mixed review on here. mite have to put its purchase on hold for a while.
Message: Posted by: Magicsquared (Mar 3, 2009 11:25AM)
I really don't like when people come here and fish for methods. HOWEVER, I feel I can do most of the effects listed with an i***x. I must be getting something more than that here, yes?
Message: Posted by: dylan magic (Mar 4, 2009 05:57AM)
A good question, I'm not fishing for methods but an idea as to what I would be paying for is a valid question I feel......at the moment I'm guessing a gimmick I have to make?...
Message: Posted by: JamieD (Mar 4, 2009 06:32AM)
The Gimmick is easily made (could proably be made at a moments notice) All you ned is a deck of cards and a card box and it's a newly styled Card I***x.

Hope this helps,

Jamie
Message: Posted by: Titanas (Mar 5, 2009 05:48PM)
I got this from Blackpool directly from Daniel.
I ve been told that its great and when Daniel performed it to me, I knew I had to take it.
I am really glad with my purchase and with how easy and practical this effect is.

Bests,
Titanas
Message: Posted by: T.G Kenny (Mar 6, 2009 11:17AM)
I bought it and I prefer Wrath. But that's just me.

Kenny
Message: Posted by: dylan magic (Mar 8, 2009 01:56PM)
Thanks for the help guys.
Message: Posted by: Chamberlain (Mar 17, 2009 05:31PM)
My review - Meh.

Sounds good in theory but its just a new take on an old old concept. Its just not the sort of thing I see myself carry around. Lets just say you can buy a similar prop, albeit slightly larger, from trickshop.com for $7.95...
Message: Posted by: David Smith (Mar 23, 2009 12:12PM)
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On 2009-03-01 15:17, sleightofhander wrote:
I think this is a very useful tool and will be using it. Until you get faster with the method, you could have the spectator open a new sealed deck before they shuffle it. This will give you lots more time.
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Daniel fooled me with this at Blackpool by asking me to check my named card was in the deck then asking me to shuffle the cards first face down, then face up. This bought all the time and shade necessary. Have recently downloaded this knowing roughly what to expect and can strongly recommend it. It is a very old principle which many younger magicians may be unfamiliar with, but is very practical with practice. You must be prepared to sacrifice pocket space though, gimmick is slightly larger than a deck of cards and needs a little room for access.
Message: Posted by: tian_ci (Mar 23, 2009 03:17PM)
Man.
It's a practical Card I***X
It's well constructed and easy to navigate.

Overall if you have pocket space and can p****lm a card (more stars added) then it's a fun little piece.
Message: Posted by: Nechto (Apr 1, 2009 09:17PM)
I cannot recommend this enough. It's directness KILLS, I much prefer this to Wrath and I LOVED Wrath!!

What you get has been discussed here so I won't go into it but I picked this up very quickly and have been slaying people. Imagine Kollosal Killer but with only one card in your wallet, tie this in with Luca Volpe's Thought of Card in Balloon routine or MArk Jenest's Billooon routine and you have a dynamite effect. The smoother you get with this the better for sure but I find a casual demeanor and a tiny bit of misdirection or just a small delay that can be created with a splurge of patter and you have already won! This is a great concept and Daniel has put some great routines together to go with it. I truly believe I understand the quote that said this really is only limited by your imagination.

Top marks Daniel son, go get yourself a gold star!

Ben
Message: Posted by: Martin Adams (Jun 2, 2009 04:04AM)
Easy and practical I really love it
Message: Posted by: magic123 (Jun 18, 2013 03:14PM)
That His hand Is GLUED to that cup is Quite "Suspect"
That the card was Curled screams Palm . Does any one havea link to Wrath ?
May have to hold on to my cash for awhile longer.

m123
Message: Posted by: airztonne (Dec 10, 2013 04:41AM)
The hand "glued" is misdirection.
A curled card is only screaming to a magician.
And palm yes, but how are you gonna palm the right card?

I admit I'm new to magic and new to buying magic, so I don't know all the effects or if this is a take on an old method(just look at my post count and you'll know)
BUT you(anyone reading this)have to remember, that this is not a brainwave - Its a utility device that lets you locate ANY card. (You can adapt this to esp, tarot etc) and do a clean show of an invisible, to impossible location. the card is clean in the cleanest sense.

Honestly, this is one of the "effects" (quotes because its not an effect but a utility) that I actually feel is practical for me because many a times, we buy effects to realize that I have to bring a "not clean" deck to do one effect or realize I don't feel as comfortable doing that knuckle busting move/misdirection. But this, as I've said, lets me do an array of effects with just that.
Message: Posted by: gostone23 (Dec 10, 2013 12:52PM)
I agree somewhat. I think The Advocate is a cool idea. I've been practicing it on and off for ahwhile now. For me, I'm finding it tough not to broadcast what's going on. That's where I've been spending my practice. I figure I could integrate this into a lot of effects once I can regularly perform the dirty work confidently under good cover.

I really enjoyed his EMC performance. I showed it to a couple non-magician close friends to get their reactions and they all thought the effect was awesome.

Not being familar with other versions of this idea, I totally find the Advocate worth every penny.

-Robert
Message: Posted by: Sasasaam (Jul 10, 2014 07:40AM)
I'll tell you why I love this tool. It's so easy to make. Buy a deck of cards, and it'll take 3 minutes to set up. That's it.

If you perform it well (which IMO is easy, but it's the type of misdirection I do a lot) then this is super easy. The timing all works out really well, and the tool itself is quite easy to use. I've started carrying this around with me, and it might even replace my I.D.!
Message: Posted by: paisa23 (Mar 28, 2015 04:39PM)
Here I am YEARS later asking are we still loving this?
Message: Posted by: Nicolino (Mar 29, 2015 05:34AM)
It still is a valid tool and I bet many still use it.