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Topic: UPDATE- the final Issues of ANTINOMY
Message: Posted by: antinomy (Apr 5, 2009 09:24AM)
Since it's been awhile since Issue 14 came out and Issue 15 is still not out, I wanted to let people know where things stand. If you're an ANTINOMY supporter, you can help me by letting other subscribers know about this.

Part of the "end game" in finishing up publication of ANTINOMY involves financing the publication. ANTINOMY was never the cheapest option in terms of publishing a journal of this sort and postage prices have increased every year since it began. As I complete my 2008 taxes, I'm reminded just how far below break-even ANTINOMY has fallen. Of course, this is one of the reasons I am ceasing publication after the next two issues.

Regardless, I want subscribers to know that I believe I will receive enough funding to publish Issue 15 within the next month or so. So while some of the time constraints that have made it difficult to produce the issues have eased, the publication schedule of the next two issues will be based more on funding than time.

I also wanted to mention that Issue 16, the final issue, will be an expanded version of ANTINOMY with more pages and more content. It will sell individually for $30. Anyone who subscribes to the final four issues of ANTINOMY, starting with Issue 13, will receive this jumbo-sized final Issue without additional cost.

Thanks,

Gene
Message: Posted by: Magiguy (Apr 5, 2009 10:48AM)
Thanks for the update, Gene. Frankly, I would have paid a higher subscription rate to keep this exceptional journal in print. Even so... I'm looking forward (patiently :)) to the final issues.
Message: Posted by: jonnyboy (May 5, 2009 09:44PM)
Gene- I echo Magiguy's comments. THis is/was a superb publication, and the physical quality of the magazine made it a pleasure to read. It would have been worth twice the price.
John
Message: Posted by: sirbrad (Jul 21, 2009 02:29AM)
How is it coming? I got all the issues so far but want the full year and CD of the last 4 issues when they come out.
Message: Posted by: dkahane (Aug 16, 2009 11:07PM)
Any sign of issues 15 and/or 16?
Message: Posted by: Magiguy (Aug 16, 2009 11:44PM)
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On 2009-08-17 00:07, dkahane wrote:
Any sign of issues 15 and/or 16?
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I'm sure that they will come, sooner or later. It's a shame to see Antinomy come to such an abrupt end, but I am happy to wait until Gene has the resources to finish the run in the style we have become accustomed to.

Patience is a virtue... :)
Message: Posted by: Peo Olsson (Nov 16, 2009 09:17PM)
Still waiting...
Message: Posted by: Magiguy (Nov 22, 2009 09:24AM)
In a recent email from Gene he mentioned that he is finishing up issue 15 and it should go to the printer in about 2 - 3 weeks. Issue 16 and the CD annual will then take some period of months to complete. Something to look forward to...
Message: Posted by: Denis Bastible (Dec 12, 2009 04:41AM)
Keep looking and keep waiting....Patience is a virtue, but this is ridiculous
Message: Posted by: jonnyboy (Dec 12, 2009 07:23AM)
Let's face it, the odds of seeing any more issues of this formerly wonderful magazine are extremely slim. Too bad, and not good news for the subscribers who already paid for them.
Message: Posted by: Magiguy (Dec 13, 2009 05:34PM)
I maintain faith in Gene, and feel certain that we will, eventually, see the final two issues and the accompanying CD annual.
Message: Posted by: Peo Olsson (Dec 13, 2009 11:58PM)
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On 2009-12-13 18:34, Magiguy wrote:
I maintain faith in Gene, and feel certain that we will, eventually, see the final two issues and the accompanying CD annual.
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I second that wholehearted.
Message: Posted by: antinomy (Dec 14, 2009 09:39AM)
I've been reluctant to post here without having something concrete to say. I've been wrong many times this year in my estimates regarding the availability of Issue 15. I realize it's been an absurdly long time between issues. I can only say that I am trying to get this issue to the printer before the end of the year. I will post when that goal has been reached.

If ANTINOMY had been a financial success, then instead of explaining delays in Volume 4, I'd be posting about the availabilty of Volume 5. That's the reality of the situation.

I appreciate the supportive comments posted here.
Message: Posted by: KLG (Dec 17, 2009 06:26AM)
Thanks for the update. Looking forward to it!
Message: Posted by: manreb (Jan 17, 2010 08:29PM)
I have been a supporter of Antinomy for many years as a "magic shop" purchser. I beleive that the final issues will be published and am willing to show my support by purchasing a subscritio. I have looked at your web site and can not see how to do this. Can you let me know?
Message: Posted by: antinomy (Jan 18, 2010 10:20AM)
You can subscribe to the last volume of Antinomy here:
http://www.antinomymagic.com/subscribe.htm

Available issues will ship immediately. Issues 15 and 16 will ship when available.

Issue 15 should be out soon.

Thanks for your patience and support.
Message: Posted by: Gordon (Feb 12, 2010 11:45AM)
So I take it you didn't make your goal of sending #15 to press by the end of 2009. Or does "should be out soon" mean that it's now in production?
Message: Posted by: Hay Harrey (Apr 15, 2010 06:10PM)
Anyone heard anything about this upcoming issue? Would really love to have the full set... eventually. Really looking forward to a massive issue.

I'm Harry Hay and I'm outta here!
Message: Posted by: Denis Bastible (Apr 28, 2010 09:07PM)
Harry- if you read all the posts you will come to the conclusion that you better not hold your breath
Message: Posted by: BSL (Jun 6, 2010 08:16AM)
Dear magicians from Magic Café - I'm from Poland, totally new here.. I logged in just because I have found this topic, and want to ask if there are any news about two final issues of antinomy? I was told a long long time ago, that they are just coming, and after many months still nothing? Waiting for them every day with hope and faith in people ;).. any news however?
Message: Posted by: Denis Bastible (Jul 21, 2010 08:41PM)
BSL: Every now and then the publisher will post something that indicates that the "next" issue will be out shortly. In April 2009, it was supposed to be out in approximately a month. In December, 2009 it was to be out by the end of the year. His last post, if I am not mistaken, was the "fantastic" news that you could still subscribe and that issue 15 should be out "soon". Isn't that great news??
Message: Posted by: Cardguy52 (Sep 20, 2010 12:54PM)
An update from Gene as posted on the Antinomy website.

The Future of Antinomy

Issues 15 and 16 will be the final issues of ANTINOMY

First, my apologies for the long delay since Issue 14. The reasons for the scheduled demise of ANTINOMY have only gotten worse since then. It's all about the time and the money. If there were more of both, ANTINOMY would continue indefinitely. Throughout the time since the last issue, I made statements at various times indicating Issue 15 would be out very soon. I made these statments on Forums and in emails. It wasn't my intent to mislead anyone with those answers. But I was personally having trouble admitting that things have changed. The reality of ANTINOMY for most of its existence has been that I would be able to complete issues fairly quickly once the material was gathered. Then, it was just a question of going to print and mailing the issues. But that printing and mailing assumed there was money in the ANTINOMY coffers to make that happen.

At this point, those coffers don't contain enough to make that happen.

That means the "losing money" part of ANTINOMY has finally caught up with me. Part of my statements about Issue 15 being out soon relied on the assumption that enough money would come in to make that happen. It hasn't happened. Still, I'm not that far from having enough to do it. I can only assure you that Issue 15 will go to print when the funds are available. I will take it one issue at a time. Once Issue 15 is out, I will attempt to generate the funds to make Issue 16 happen. With the long delay between issues, ANTINOMY sales are, understandably, down. So it's a "Catch 22" sitatution - I need the Issue to come out to generate revenue, but I need revenue to get the issue out.

This is the reality of the situation. For any subscriber who would prefer a pro-rated refund of the subscription instead of waiting for the final issues, please contact me at editor@antinomymagic.com.

Let me conclude by thanking all ANTINOMY subscribers for their patience during this wait.
Message: Posted by: Denis Bastible (Dec 10, 2010 09:38PM)
Where is my magazine?????
Message: Posted by: Magiguy (Dec 10, 2010 10:31PM)
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On 2010-12-10 22:38, denisb wrote:
Where is my magazine?????
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"For any subscriber who would prefer a pro-rated refund of the subscription instead of waiting for the final issues, please contact me at editor@antinomymagic.com."
Message: Posted by: Gordon (Dec 20, 2010 04:34PM)
I suggest a clearance sale on any old stock to make up the money you need to finish out your obligations. Subscribers paid for the issues up-front, and now you're hoping for new subscribers? That's just increasingly unlikely as people now realize the publication is not only coming to end, it has effectively died already.
Message: Posted by: Peo Olsson (Dec 21, 2010 07:39AM)
Still wishing and hoping.
Message: Posted by: Denis Bastible (Apr 6, 2012 06:04AM)
I have been sleeping for three years.....Did I miss Issue 16?
Message: Posted by: drdanny_orig (Jul 3, 2012 09:19AM)
Me too.... was 16 ever issued? and if it is, where there also be an annual??
D
Message: Posted by: sirbrad (Oct 24, 2012 08:31PM)
How is it coming? :lol: That is why I don't susscribe to magazines, I order from shops once they come in. I got all of these wasn't there supposed to be 2 more or so?
Message: Posted by: sirbrad (Oct 25, 2012 12:17AM)
"Perception and deception" at its best. :lol:
Message: Posted by: Jerry (Dec 31, 2018 11:10PM)
Never happened.
And why I never subscribe.