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Topic: Dice routine
Message: Posted by: Pavlo (May 20, 2003 11:57AM)
I'm thinking of getting one of the available dice routines. I've seen the one performed by Reed McClintock ([url=http://www.themagicbakery.com]The Ivory Connection[/url]). I find it cool. I haven't actually seen other routines. Which one should I get?
Thanks a lot
Message: Posted by: grahamk5 (May 20, 2003 12:19PM)
[url=http://www.themagicbakery.com]The Ivory Connection[/url] is the first and only dice routine I have done. It was easy to learn and memorise and gets a good response. I would recommend it but would be interested to see what other people think as well.

Message: Posted by: slap aces (May 20, 2003 12:27PM)
Get the Bob Sheets dice routine "It's The Rules". None of the other routines can touch it. If you want the traditional Sacks routine, get the Jim Lewis tape and avoid the other stuff out there.
Message: Posted by: MichalMystic (May 20, 2003 01:07PM)
Yeah, [url=http://www.themagicbakery.com]The Ivory Connection[/url] is one of the best tricks that I've added to my show after 17 years.
Message: Posted by: JC33 (May 20, 2003 02:47PM)
I like [url=http://www.themagicbakery.com]The Ivory Connection[/url] as well as Carl Andrews' handling if the Sacks routine. Andrews' version is called Pair o' Dice and can be found on his video No Jacket Required.
Message: Posted by: Pavlo (May 21, 2003 12:32AM)
Is the Bob Sheet's routine similar in handling to Ivory Connection?
Message: Posted by: Adam V (May 21, 2003 12:42AM)
I haven't seen [url=http://www.themagicbakery.com]The Ivory Connection[/url], but I've seen It's the Rules and will agree that it is a fantastic effect. I think the adding numbers phase go on a bit but the ending phases are great.
Message: Posted by: Gary (May 21, 2003 03:48AM)
Just received [url=http://www.themagicbakery.com]The Ivory Connection[/url] video yesterday.

Truly great effect with non-gimmicked dice and well worth spending the time perfecting the handling. The routine is genuinely magical as opposed to what could have been a mere puzzle presentation.
Message: Posted by: Andrew Wong (May 21, 2003 04:06AM)
I have [url=http://www.themagicbakery.com]The Ivory Connection[/url] and I must say that it is a great piece of magic, Highly recommended!! :)
Message: Posted by: vinsmagic (May 21, 2003 09:11AM)
There are some other very good sources for dice routines .
"Doctor Sacks amazing Dice trick" by James Lewis an excellent video.
also Steve Druan" on dice" is excellent
if you want to see a routine on dice stacking
then theres a video called The "art of Dice Stacking"
by Zachary

hope this adds to the already mentioned resources
Message: Posted by: grahamk5 (May 21, 2003 12:47PM)
There's a demo of the [url=http://www.themagicbakery.com]The Ivory Connection[/url] [url=http://murphysmagicsupplies.com]Here![/url]

Message: Posted by: Pavlo (May 22, 2003 01:41AM)
Thanks all for recomendation. I'm still racking my brain over the choice. I wanna have one, sure winner.
Thanks once again :die:
Message: Posted by: vinsmagic (May 22, 2003 10:12AM)
Go with the amazing dice trick video
this is the origonial Dr Sacks dice routine
Message: Posted by: Paul Chosse (May 22, 2003 10:17AM)
1) Sacks Dice Routine (Bruce Elliot book)
2) Vernon Dice Climax (Vernon Book of Magic)
3) Charlie Miller routines for 2 in hand 1 in pocket (Magicana)
4) Audley Walsh Dice Tricks Pamphlet
5) Marlo - Shoot the Works
6) Senator Crandall - Dice stacking
7) Jim Zee material on stacking
8) Paul Green offers "Millers Dice" an effect by Charlie Miller
How about a Matrix with dice (Stars of Magic, Bey's routine, for instance).

There are lots of commercial effects for sale in the magic shops or at least there used to be:
1) Spots appear and disappear visually on a single black die (Lublr Fiedler if I remember correctly)
2) a bunch of dice are stacked and they revolve with no apparent mechanism (Dancing Dice, Spooky Dice)
3) Irv Wiener - Soft Dice routine
4) Heath's Die-cyphering
5) Audley Walsh's "Crooked Dice"

Also effects by RW Hull, a Tannen effect with the dice penetrating a sealed glass jar, a prediction effect, a mindreading effect like color vision, miniature die box, color changing dice, linking dice(!), etc.

There are tons of individual things in magazines (Pallbearers had several great things!) and books that are not exclusively on dice - I have culled many of these for my files - this is just off the top of my head. I have a whole other file of dice effects and a couple boxes of dice tricks, but not here in my office! I can list some other things if you are interested - post or PM me and I'll do the research if you are really interested...

Best, PSC
Message: Posted by: Mark Martinez (May 22, 2003 11:01AM)
pchosse, great list...

I own and perform Bob Sheets its the rules and love it. I watched the Ivory connection video and that is great... But I would still recommend getting the Bob Sheets version first!
Message: Posted by: grahamk5 (May 24, 2003 03:10AM)
Does anyone know where I can get hold of It's the Rules? Is it only available at Dennys?
I'm in the UK but don't think I can get it over here.

Message: Posted by: Robert Sixx (Aug 15, 2003 08:05PM)
I really like It's the Rules by Sheets, but I just watched [url=http://www.themagicbakery.com]The Ivory Connection[/url] and I will be getting it!
Message: Posted by: Larry Davidson (Aug 15, 2003 08:26PM)
On 2003-05-24 04:10, grahamk5 wrote:
Does anyone know where I can get hold of It's the Rules? Is it only available at Dennys?
I'm in the UK but don't think I can get it over here.


Yes, it's available exclusively at Denny's.
Message: Posted by: Vibono Magic (Aug 18, 2003 02:13AM)
How about father Cryperians dies through table rutine. I have preformes it for 7 years and it realy kills.

Jonas Karlsson
Vibono Magic
Message: Posted by: Nicodemus (Aug 19, 2003 09:10AM)
Where can the " Father Cryperians dies through table routine" be found or acquired ? TIA
Message: Posted by: Andy Charlton (Aug 20, 2003 10:52AM)
I have "It's the Rules" It's by far my most performed routine. I use it everywhere from 1" Dice in a parlour type setting, to standard size in the ticket pocket of my Jeans for those "Show us a trick" moments.

At Blackpool last Year a company called "Magic Zone," (I think) had some videos of It's the Rules and Bob's Awsome 3 shell game.

It's a great routine!

Message: Posted by: GlenD (Aug 21, 2003 02:32AM)
There you go, Pavlo... Take your pick! It's kind of like a **** shoot, is'nt it? :hmm:
I have only seen one of the routines listed above (Doctor Sacks Amazing Dice Trick) so I can't compare or recommend one over the other. But I imagine you can't go wrong with any of them for starters. I went with Doctor Sacks and have been working with it for over a month now and really like it. But I still plan on getting [url=http://www.themagicbakery.com]The Ivory Connection[/url] and the Bob Sheets versions just for variety.

Message: Posted by: Scott F. Guinn (Aug 21, 2003 03:04AM)
In "The Art of Close Up Magic" Volume One by Lewis Ganson (reprinted by L&L) there is a dice routine by Horace Bennet called "Unfair Shake." It's a wonderful routine, very easy but exceptionally entertaining. I use it all the time.
Message: Posted by: TheAmbitiousCard (Aug 21, 2003 03:54PM)
Hey, Thanks Scott. I'll check that out tonight.
Message: Posted by: juan (Aug 21, 2003 05:28PM)
Four Dice Chink-A-Chink (Bob Barrell)
Sack's Dice Routine (Dr. Sack)

Both in Daryl's video Fooler Doolers volume 3. They are great
Message: Posted by: Vibono Magic (Aug 23, 2003 03:13AM)
Father Cyprians dice rutine can be found on one of his old video tapes I think its "Father Cyprian live".
It was reeast in the states by Hans M. Zahn of videonics and has some great material on it.

Jonas Karlsson
Vibono Magic