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Topic: Troublewit
Message: Posted by: Joe Keppel (Jun 10, 2003 09:51AM)
The guy in New Zealand who used to make troublewits has stopped. They seem to be unavailable ANYWHERE. does anyone know of a current source?
Message: Posted by: Payne (Jun 10, 2003 10:17AM)
You can actually make these yourself without too much difficulty. but if your not up to the challenge this place is advertising them


As well as this place

Message: Posted by: japanjazzy (Jun 10, 2003 07:20PM)
Does anyone know of a dealer in the states?
Message: Posted by: Joe Keppel (Jun 10, 2003 10:36PM)
Thanks for the info Payne, I am however hoping to find some plain white ones. the colored ones tend to crack and I think they tend to take away from the imagination of the trick.
Message: Posted by: Payne (Jun 11, 2003 11:32AM)
I looked for plain white ones for a very long time to no avail. I finally just gave up and started folding my own.
If you go to an art store you can generally find heavy weight paper of the proper size required to make them up.
Message: Posted by: japanjazzy (Jun 22, 2003 06:46PM)
Some time ago I remember seeing a book about things to do with it. I can't remember the name. Any help on that? I like the idea of using it since I believe it will work in the different countries I go to.
Message: Posted by: DRPEPPER (Jun 23, 2003 01:17PM)
US toy magic just got a shipment in. They can be reached at [outdated link]
Message: Posted by: markyeager (Jun 23, 2003 07:04PM)
I've always got mine from Magic Inc. in Chicago.
Message: Posted by: Danny Hustle (Feb 15, 2005 07:29PM)
Hi All,

How big of a sheet of paper should you start with if you are going to fold one of these babies yourself? I found some instructions on line but I am not sure how big of a piece of paper or even what kind of paper I should start with. Any of you guys ever make these yourself?


Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (Feb 15, 2005 08:59PM)
Abbott's used to have 'em... I got half a dozen from a friend who made them in the orient, but he has gone to troublewit heaven.

Jay Marshall made his own. My guess is to try to contact him at http://www.magicinc.net and see what he can tell you.

I had forgotten about it, maybe I need to dust it off.
Message: Posted by: Danny Hustle (Feb 15, 2005 11:05PM)
Thanks Pete. I'll give him a try. I have kind of a choreography routine I am working on and some of the hats are better suited to a troublewit than the old felt ring.

Thanks a million.


Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (Feb 16, 2005 12:33AM)
There was a comic in the '60s that could sing a bit and he did a troublewit/chapeaugraphy type routine with just a plain white handkerchief. It was fantastic. Wish I could recall his name.
Message: Posted by: Harry Murphy (Feb 16, 2005 06:52AM)
Here is a site has links to pre-made small, medium, and large Troublewits. The site will give you bit of history of this wonderful tool. You’ll find that it has been around and in publication since 1710! David Devant made it popular during Queen Victoria's reign. Check out:
Message: Posted by: Danny Hustle (Feb 16, 2005 08:14AM)
Thanks for the link Harry, That is great.

Pete, that sounds funny about using a handkerchief. I have been playing with that too.

Thanks guys.


Message: Posted by: Joe Keppel (Nov 7, 2005 09:29AM)
I am now manufacturing stage size Plain white troublewit. Joe Keppel
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Nov 7, 2005 09:50AM)
You can get Troublewit from http://www.stoners.com it is not advertised on their web site but just email them and they can provide. or contact Dick Stoner this toll free # 866-977-1100. They carry the white paper. Jim in New Zealand is no longer making them to my knowledge.

They have the large white @ $28 and they only have one left small table hopping colored version troublewit for $29.95, comes with instructional video. I believe the small version are no longer made.
Message: Posted by: bobn3 (Oct 23, 2006 12:00PM)

I know that Stevens Magic has just gotten some new ones that look really nice. These are new enough (we just shot the photos for the ad last Friday), and are not on the website as yet. Their website has their phone number, or you can email Mark Stevens at mark@stevensmagic.com.

Bob Phillips
Message: Posted by: Donald Dunphy (Oct 25, 2006 10:51AM)
Someone earlier on this thread asked about the Troublewit book. Here's a link for it on the Morrissey Magic website:

[url=http://www.morrisseymagic.com/morrissey_books2.htm?zoom_highlight=troublewit]- Troublewit Simplified book, at Morrissey Magic.[/url]

Also, a link for the troublewit itself on the Morrissey Magic website:

[url=http://www.morrisseymagic.com/stage.htm?zoom_highlight=troublewit]- Troublewit in colour or white, at Morrissey Magic.[/url]

For those wanting to order, you should know that Morrissey is based out of Toronto, Ontario, Canada. I purchased my book and troublewit from them years ago.

- Donald

P.S. I know that Harry and others supplied different links earlier, but I am just trying to share other links.
Message: Posted by: FrankFindley (Feb 10, 2021 08:39PM)
Thread Necromancy!

Could 2021 be the year of troublewit revival?

In the July 2020 Linking Ring magazine, the youth trivia column is about the history of troublewit. In it Andrew Pinard, an active Café member, provides great historical details. It goes on to say:

"We'd like to thank Andrew Pinard for his help with the history and research this month. For the past several years, he has been writing a book about Troublewit, and he expects it to be completed within a year or two. Look for it!"

If the column is any indication, this will be a defining tome on the subject. I've seen Sid Lorraine, Jay Marshall, and many others perform troublewit in its heyday. But I've not seen a smoother act than Andrew's here:


And in January 2020, Penn Jillette mentioned on his podcast that they were looking for a way to get troublewit in their show.


Really excited that troublewit could make a come back.

On another topic, does anyone know if Dick Oslund ever published his "KISS Oragami" troublewit routine? Surprisingly, it isn't in Road Scholar or his early lecture notes. Would be a shame if his streamlined routine was lost to history.
Message: Posted by: hugmagic (Feb 11, 2021 06:28PM)
If anyone is still hunting a Troublewit, I do have a couple brand new that I have on hand.
Message: Posted by: FrankFindley (Feb 14, 2021 12:56PM)
[quote]On Feb 10, 2021, FrankFindley wrote:
On another topic, does anyone know if Dick Oslund ever published his "KISS Oragami" troublewit routine? Surprisingly, it isn't in Road Scholar or his early lecture notes. Would be a shame if his streamlined routine was lost to history. [/quote]

Turns out that the figures used in his base routine were included in Road Scholar. They are listed on page 414 in the reprinted article from the New Tops. Sadly, only a smidgen of the patter was included.