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Topic: Mystery of the golden pins - Slydini
Message: Posted by: slebonio (Jun 20, 2003 03:01PM)
Does anyone out there perform this effect? On paper I love the idea, I'm just wondering does it play as well as it reads?

Slebonio :dance:
Message: Posted by: martyk (Jul 10, 2003 12:57AM)
Yes and no. Tony hesitated for years to do magic with such insignificant objects, but then finally relented. I don't think he should have; the objects are too insignificant--but, he did do them beautifully. However, I don't think it became a best seller because it lacked a clever gimmick (See Andrus) and e all like our toys. The effect, for me, is better than Andrusut the most really impossible magical linking of all is Gaeton Bloom's (yeas ago by Busby). Fast, flat -on -the- table, links using French (super large and different shape) pins.
Message: Posted by: Ron Reid (Jul 10, 2003 07:41AM)
Hi Slebonio:

Yes, I performed these for years in strolling situations. They played well, but I never bought some of Slydini's ideas about the pins. I remember him saying that after the pins were secretly unlinked, to keep the pins together and the spectator's mind wouldn't be able to tell that they were unlinked (something like that). Spectators always could tell, so I had to tweak the routine a bit.

I switched the rings, and ended with the Piff, Paff, Poof finish so that the spectators could examine the rings.

Ron Reid
Message: Posted by: Dan LeFay (Jul 12, 2003 01:50PM)
I combined Slydini's routine with the Bloom gimmick for years. It always got a good response. When done right, a same illusion as in CMH can be experienced.
BTW Blooms pins are not French, they are commonly used in knitting. I've seen them in at least 4 different countries besides France.
Message: Posted by: Conus (Aug 27, 2003 06:26PM)
I like Andrus' gaffed (and ungaffed) pin tricks.

Michael Weber published a nice effect using "soft" pins.
Message: Posted by: TheAmbitiousCard (Aug 28, 2003 02:41PM)
If it's what I think it is, Michael Weber's effect was an ending to Dan Garett's Pindemonium effect which is very well liked because it's got a high degree of magic and uses normal pins. The pins, again, are normal pins and can be picked up at a fabric store. I use 3" pins.

Dan Garetts' routine requires some "work" put into the normal pins to make them what is called "soft" pins.

This "work" was created by somebody Van Sombody. I don't remember.

References that I have for this are:
Lifesavers - Michael Weber (book)
Close-up Connivery - Dan Garett (video and notes)
Message: Posted by: Conus (Aug 28, 2003 05:32PM)
You're right, Frank ...
Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (Aug 28, 2003 06:48PM)
The greatest gag with jumbo pins was Ken Brooke's bit with a handkerchief.

Hard to describe, but:

Have spectator hold handkerchief by two top corners, tightly.

Put pin in and run it from one side to the other... TEARING the handkerchief.

"Ooops... wait, turn it" (have them rotate it 1/4-turn for a new TOP EDGE.

Repeat, tearing.

"Ooops... wait, turn it" (repeat)

After the third time where you rip their handkerchief you actually do the slide to the other end without the tear, stop... and say...

"Whew, that's what it was supposed to do.... (now move back to other direction tearing it again) Not Do THIS...!!!"

:band: :band:
Message: Posted by: maratekin (Aug 30, 2003 03:44PM)
Frank, I think the person you were thinking of was Hans van Senus. I recently received Geno Munari's booklet "Stealth Linking Pins," which has a great deal of information in it about this effect. Dan Garrett's version is great as well.

Take care -

Message: Posted by: Paul Chosse (Sep 4, 2003 09:14AM)
I sat with Tony in a restaurant in San Francisco and watched him do the Golden Pins for a group of diners for the first time in 1979. I was flabbergasted. I knew the Andrus stuff, had everything in print on tricks with pins, knew PPP, etc. There was no way! By the way, at this time I was taking lessons from Tony, and he frequently stayed at my apartment when he came to SF. I worked in the magic shop there and was doing magic all day every day. I NEVER thought of a key! It just looked like magic. And, NO ONE asked to see the pins! I have page after page of notes on this effect, some taken by me, some by a friend of mine who was one of Tonys' closest friends, Gene Matsuura. This can be done in a way that elevates it to miracle status, but the how is not in print. I would be willing to share what I know about this if there is any interest. I have done the Golden Pins for 20 years now, just as Tony did them, and I never fail to amaze, thanks to his patience and tutelage. Don't underestimate the value of this little illusion! By the way, I have, and have done, Gaeton's version. He still sells it at his lectures (at least he did as recently as last summer). It is his response to the problem of the spectator asking to see the pins! He says this in every lecture, that he could not seem to get past the spectator wanting to handle the pins in Tonys' routine, so this was his solution. Anyway, in answer to the original question, Slebonio. Yes, it plays as well as it reads!

Best, PSC