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Topic: Bending bottle caps
Message: Posted by: The Manipulator (Jan 19, 2010 06:16PM)
Anyone know a good method for bending a bottle cap into its original shape while inside the bottle without getting bend marks? much appreciated!
Message: Posted by: Paco iglacias (Jan 19, 2010 06:29PM)
Use a dowel or a drumbstick, you really just have to play with it till its flat. and when you put the cap in the bottle only bend it as much as you absolutely have to to get it in. all in all, this really isn't worth the effort.
Message: Posted by: The Manipulator (Jan 19, 2010 10:32PM)
Thanks Paco! I was trying to stay away from dowel method if anyone else can help
Message: Posted by: vinsmagic (Jan 20, 2010 01:12AM)
I suggest you ask Charlie Justice of cap trap fame
vinny
Message: Posted by: William Wortman (Jan 20, 2010 01:32AM)
I agree with Vinny, ask Charlie Justice. He also has a new video out Prohibition 2.0

http://jeffpiercemagic.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2&products_id=9

I posted the link not cause Jeff and Charlie are friends of mine but that I love Charlie's work.
Message: Posted by: The Manipulator (Jan 20, 2010 08:57AM)
My dads a smart guy, he told me it will be impossible. I want to prove him wrong!
Message: Posted by: Fábio DeRose (Jan 20, 2010 09:29AM)
Is it just me, or has anyone's "Too Perfect Theory" buttons been pushed too?

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http://jeffpiercemagic.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2&products_id=9

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Message: Posted by: Charlie Justice (Jan 20, 2010 01:44PM)
Inserting a cap in a glass bottle is time consuming and does not allow you to hand out the bottle prior to the effect much less use a borrowed bottle. Sometimes this is fine...sometimes it isn't practical.

My solution allows you to openly insert the cap right in front of the spectator during the performance and be able to hand them the bottle with an unbent cap within at the end. As to being "too perfect"?...I do not subscribe to that theory as I continually strive for perfection......even though I wont get there.

Peace, charlie
Message: Posted by: magicshayne (Jan 24, 2010 04:39AM)
I too agree with charlie and do not think something can be to perfect! if you was able to do real magic by putting a bottle into a cap for example then it would look just that. perfect ie no bends in cap and no explanation.

Charlie can you give the bottle away to the spec with cap inside?
Message: Posted by: chappelly (Jan 24, 2010 07:06AM)
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On 2010-01-20 14:44, Charlie Justice wrote:
Inserting a cap in a glass bottle is time consuming and does not allow you to hand out the bottle prior to the effect much less use a borrowed bottle. Sometimes this is fine...sometimes it isn't practical.

My solution allows you to openly insert the cap right in front of the spectator during the performance and be able to hand them the bottle with an unbent cap within at the end. As to being "too perfect"?...I do not subscribe to that theory as I continually strive for perfection......even though I wont get there.


Peace, charlie
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So you set the unbent cap up during the performance?
Is this method on your new DVD?
Sounds fantastic.
Message: Posted by: Charlie Justice (Jan 24, 2010 09:49AM)
Yes...the method is on the provisions DVD and yes you can hand it out to the spectator immediately after penetration.
Peace, charlie
Message: Posted by: chappelly (Jan 24, 2010 04:03PM)
Thanks Charlie,I will have to get your new DVD although I'm pretty happy with the bent cap method.If the unbent method is just as efficient,this takes it to the next level.

Chappelly
Message: Posted by: acer (Mar 19, 2010 06:28PM)
New prohibition dvd is fantastic. The method to put an unbent cap in the bottlee is very well explained.
Message: Posted by: nonvpro (Mar 19, 2010 06:33PM)
Charlie,

Do you have a upgrade package for those of us who purchased the original version?
Message: Posted by: idomagic (Mar 20, 2010 12:24AM)
I would be interested in that as well...
Message: Posted by: Metatron (Mar 20, 2010 07:22AM)
I've used a plastic knitting needle, a wood dowel, and long metal spike. All worked quite well. As stated above, bend the cap as little as possible when putting it in the bottle. With a little effort, you can straighten it back to its original shape.

I've used Charlie Justice's original bent cap method with great reactions. I wasn't aware of his flat cap improvement! Any video of that available?

I've also used Justin Miller's CAPtured method. Great effect but being able to borrow/examine the bottle at start would be preferred. Sounds like I will need to checkout the Prohibition 2.0. Since this type of effect is PERFECT for bars & pubs.

Has anyone used Ghost Cap by Joe Porper?

Metatron :)
Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (Mar 20, 2010 12:28PM)
Yes, but my critique isn't fair as It's my invention.
Message: Posted by: Fábio DeRose (Mar 20, 2010 01:32PM)
I purchased Prohibition 2.0 a while ago.

Man, that IS a worker. For sure.
Message: Posted by: Metatron (Mar 20, 2010 03:01PM)
I stand corrected.

Has anyone used Ghost Cap by Pete Biro?

;)
Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (Mar 20, 2010 03:20PM)
JOe makes them so we're both involved. Get one you will be delighted. It's a very specially laser cut cap with an invisible hinge. Push it into ANY beer bottle.
Message: Posted by: Charlie Justice (Mar 20, 2010 04:52PM)
The "unbent" method I came up with on Prohibition 2.0 uses any bottle cap and takes about 30 seconds to make. Once you have one made up I show you how to perform it on the spot with an empty borrowed bottle and the bottle with the "unbent" cap inside is disposable.

peace, charlie
Message: Posted by: Metatron (Mar 21, 2010 05:12PM)
Thank you very much, Mr. Justice.
I just love your effect.

Metatron
Message: Posted by: AaronishMagic (Mar 22, 2010 02:47PM)
I had problem bending bottle cap with my fingers... Any suggestion on how I can make it easier?
Message: Posted by: rochaz (Mar 22, 2010 04:56PM)
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On 2010-03-19 19:33, nonvpro wrote:
Charlie,

Do you have a upgrade package for those of us who purchased the original version?
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Charlie,
What's the latest info on purchasing the upgrade package?
(I believe a PDF format was discussed)


Thanks!

Rochaz
Message: Posted by: jhereg (Mar 23, 2010 10:59AM)
Yes Charlie your fans are clamoring for an upgrade option!! I love your work on covert coins by the way.
Message: Posted by: Metatron (Mar 24, 2010 01:59PM)
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On 2010-03-22 15:47, AaronishMagic wrote:
I had problem bending bottle cap with my fingers... Any suggestion on how I can make it easier?
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I found if I place it in finger palm position, and just squeeze my hand it will bend fairly easy. One edge of the cap at the base of the fingers (where the fingers join the palm).
Message: Posted by: Charlie Justice (Mar 25, 2010 04:28PM)
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On 2010-03-22 15:47, AaronishMagic wrote:
I had problem bending bottle cap with my fingers... Any suggestion on how I can make it easier?
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Grip the cap as if you are about to bend it...now push into the inside of it, with your other hand's thumb, AS you bend it thus greatly facilitating its collapse.

Peace, Charlie
Message: Posted by: Jeff (May 15, 2010 11:46PM)
You've asked for it so here it is. Prohibition 2.0 It will be available in three flavors.

First, purchase the Prohibitions DVD including the Bonus Provisions DVD from Jeffpiercemagic.com for $24.95 and receive the Digital Download for free!

Second, purchase both Prohibition 2.0 and Provisions as a Digital Download Combo for $19.95

And lastly, if you already own the original Prohibition DVD and just wand the bonus DVD Provisions, get it as a Digital Download for just $9.95.

These offers are only available directly from http://www.jeffpiercemagic.com and not through other dealers.

Thank you,
Jeff Pierce Magic