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Topic: Opinion on best linking Safety Pins?
Message: Posted by: Meshuggina (Apr 6, 2010 09:52PM)
I'm wondering what the best made linking Safety Pins is, and would be happy to be pointed at references for routines, etc. If there's a thread I'll be happy to be pointed to that too, as my searching is failing me tonight.
Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (Apr 6, 2010 09:56PM)
Jerry Andrus' ... none better.
Message: Posted by: 0pus (Apr 7, 2010 09:42AM)
Are the Jerry Andrus pins available currently?
Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (Apr 7, 2010 10:44AM)
I've seen them advertised somewhere... maybe do a google search? Just did and Hank Lee and Viking list them.
Message: Posted by: Turk (Apr 7, 2010 11:26AM)
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On 2010-04-07 10:42, 0pus wrote:
Are the Jerry Andrus pins available currently?
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The original Jerry Andrus pins went "OOP" about 20+ years ago. I believe that approx 2-3 years ago the Jerry Andrus pins were re-released. I have no idea about the quality of the 2nd edition pins but I understand that they also of high quality.

From what I understand, that the reason that it took so long to re-release the pins is because a source of similar high quality pins like Jerry used could not be found until recently.

Does anyone have experience with both versions/editions of these pins?

Mike

P.S. Another good linking pins set is the Dan Garrett set of pins. Uses a different methodology than the Jerry Andrus pins but is also very good.

Then there are the Slydini Linking Pins. Again a totally different methodology than the Andrus pins or the Garrett pins. I've seen a set but never had an opportunity to play around with them.

Finally, there are the Dreamweaver pins (much smaller pins than the other aforesaid three sets of pins). As I recall, the Dreamweaver set essentially uses the same methodology as the Dan Garrett pins--but then also incorporates an additional "feature" into the pin set to accomplish an additional methodological "link" of the pins.
Message: Posted by: mattmagic149 (Apr 7, 2010 01:07PM)
Alexander deCova has a great ending on the linking pins!
He has a purse with a few pins in it. At the beginning he ditches all pins onto the table and takes out his 3 pins and puts back the other pins and lays the purse aside.
Then he performes the linking pins and as an ending he takes all the pins out of the purse and they are all linked.

Just a suggestion on an ending.


Matthew
Message: Posted by: RevJohn (Apr 7, 2010 05:58PM)
Chazpro re-released Andrus' pins, with Jerry's permission.

I have heard they are high quality.

RevJohn
Message: Posted by: magicstudent (Apr 7, 2010 08:40PM)
http://themagicwarehouse.com/cgi-bin/findit.pl?x_item=SP7191
Message: Posted by: NicholasD (Apr 8, 2010 08:04PM)
Although the pins by Chazpro work just fine, the originals are a better quality pin.

Occasionally a set shows up on Ebay.
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Apr 10, 2010 03:25AM)
No one mentioned the Bernstine Linking Pins Routine [url=http://www.magicinc.net/bernsteinlinkingpinsroutine.aspx]HERE[/url] Still another method of working the Linking Safety Pins. Totally different method to the others.

Chazpro obtained the rights and he makes them to Jerry Andrus specifications. The pins are available at any JoAnn Fabric store in set of 3 for a couple dollars. These nice heavy duty large 3" Safety Pins are excellent to work with. The gimmick is very difficult to make for the Andrus version.

I believe Chespro has also reprinted the book 'Safety Pin Trix' by Andrus as well. The routine that comes with the pins is really a mini magic act, with progressive phase routine that builds to delight the onlooker. It is also fun to perform.
Message: Posted by: Magiguy (Apr 10, 2010 12:16PM)
I have both the originals and the re-released Chazpro pins. Both are very nice.
Message: Posted by: randirain (Apr 10, 2010 05:43PM)
There are knock-offs out there and they suck.

They are very thick and you have to pretty much break your finger thumping so hard on the thump moves.

I recently lost my Jerry set and bought more Jerry pins from Hocus Pocus. They work really good and you are able to do the handkerchief slide trick with them. That is without shredding your kerchief.

Randi
Message: Posted by: Sammy J. (Apr 10, 2010 06:58PM)
Bruce's routine is actually quite good and doesn't have the angle issues I experienced with the Andrus gaff. The Andrus routine was great though and very visual.


http://www.brucembernstein.com/product.html

BERNSTEIN LINKING PINS ROUTINE - $25

An incredible four phase routine that you will use!

Includes the two, three inch safety pins, and a 17" x 22" poster (no page turning with props in hand) with seventeen line drawings to make learning easy!

Hank Moorehouse: From A to Z - the best linking pin routine I've ever seen.

Bruce Barnett: "I liked Bruce's Linking Pin Routine. This is a routine where large safety pins link and unlink in slow motion. There is a finale, and at the end - the pins are passed out for examination. (no switch!) Even when I knew the principle, he fooled me with it."

Phil Wilmarth (Linking Ring): "Here is a superb four part routine... The final phase is a wonderful visual unlinking of a spectator's finger ring from a pin as a separate pin immediately links to the very same pin the ring just left. Bruce also explains how to pass the pins out for examination, upon completion of the routine, without switches. It's a fooler of a routine, yet is not that difficult to do..."



$10 shipping and handling per order, regardless of the items ordered, in the continental U.S.
Message: Posted by: lekin (Apr 10, 2010 07:30PM)
Here is some more information: http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/search_post.php?topic=101655&forum=4&post=4335096
Message: Posted by: RS1963 (Apr 11, 2010 06:38PM)
Sammmy J you said you had angle issues with the Andrus pins. I don't see where one would have any angle problems unless it was in switching out one of the pins but even that can be covered very well.
Message: Posted by: Gary Kosnitzky (Apr 15, 2010 06:28PM)
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On 2010-04-08 21:04, NicholasD wrote:
Although the pins by Chazpro work just fine, the originals are a better quality pin.

Occasionally a set shows up on Ebay.
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I agree.

The original Jerry Andrus Linking Safety Pins were plated brass safety pins.
They no longer make 3 inch safety pins (blanket pins) out of plated brass. Now they are plated steel.
The original brass ones had more spring to them enabling you to easily do the jumping unlink and link in the conclusion of the original Jerry Andrus routine.
The new ones are nice but definitely different than the original plated brass ones.
In Chazpro's reprint of the 1954 Safety Pin Trix by Jerry Andrus book there is a disclaimer, that did not appear in the earlier editions, stating that you may not be able to perform some of the moves in the book with the re-issued pins.
Message: Posted by: TheAmbitiousCard (Apr 15, 2010 07:17PM)
Garrett's Pindemonium is spectacular and you can hand out the pins if need be fore examination after the trick is over.

The preparation was not his idea but the routine is.

Before I became a Ninja Rings lover I used to do it strolling a lot.
Message: Posted by: Gary Kosnitzky (Apr 16, 2010 06:31AM)
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On 2010-04-15 20:17, Frank Starsini wrote:
Garrett's Pindemonium is spectacular and you can hand out the pins if need be fore examination after the trick is over.

The preparation was not his idea but the routine is.

Before I became a Ninja Rings lover I used to do it strolling a lot.
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This idea was first published in Harry Loraynes Apocalypse Vol. 6-10 (Vol.6 No.7) pg. 800 by Hans van Senus. It was called - Un-safety Pins by Hans van Senus.
Message: Posted by: Sammy J. (Apr 17, 2010 11:23PM)
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On 2010-04-11 19:38, RS1963 wrote:
Sammmy J you said you had angle issues with the Andrus pins. I don't see where one would have any angle problems unless it was in switching out one of the pins but even that can be covered very well.
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I need to get back to Colorado and make sure it's the Andrus set. I think it is. My problem was with the part where the gaff is sitting on the close up pad and another pin was swept down to it and linked.

Let me know if I'm remembering the wrong set!

Sammy
Message: Posted by: Fred Masschelein (Apr 19, 2010 02:22PM)
If you are looking for a great linking safety pins, Gaetan Bloom's version "The devil's principe" worths a consideration. It is, as usual with Gaetan, a nice twist to the famous Slydini's routine: "Mystery of the Gold Pins" published in Apocalype, Vol . 1, #10 - October - page 109. With Gaetan's version, everything is clean at end and can be examined.

Fred

Posted: Apr 19, 2010 3:31pm
Gaetan Bloom's Linking Pins are still available here:
http://www.gaetanbloom.net/tours-de-magie/15-epingles-enclavees-gaetan-bloom-tour-magie-close-up.html

I'm sure he can bring you instructions in English if you ask him.

Fred
Message: Posted by: Harry Lorayne (Apr 20, 2010 10:45AM)
Over the years, I've probably received literally thousands of letters and calls from people all over the world telling me how much they enjoy performing Hans van Senus's Un-Safety Pins. From what I understand, my article on it in APOCALYPSE all those years ago was the first mention of the non-gaffed pin idea. Anyway... Best - HL.
Message: Posted by: Scott Fridinger (Apr 20, 2010 06:50PM)
I would recommend Grab Your Pin-Head. It is Dan Garrett and Bob Sheets take on the pins. I think Sheet's routine is just awesome.
Message: Posted by: MagicbyCarlo (Apr 21, 2010 07:39PM)
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On 2010-04-15 20:17, Frank Starsini wrote:
Garrett's Pindemonium is spectacular and you can hand out the pins if need be fore examination after the trick is over.

The preparation was not his idea but the routine is.

Before I became a Ninja Rings lover I used to do it strolling a lot.
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Heh, heh, "Ninja Rings lover" sounds like a bad pop song.
Message: Posted by: Lord Bennington (Apr 25, 2010 03:18PM)
I am a big fan of Dreamweaver. The basic method may be done with any pins, which I think is a plus. The one gaffed pin does add a nice, but short-lived, piece of the routine.

I keep the set in my pockets at all times. The one danger there is putting them through the washer and dryer. Not goof for the gaffed pin. LOL
Message: Posted by: RS1963 (Apr 30, 2010 06:20PM)
[quote]
On 2010-04-18 00:23, Sammy J. wrote:
[quote]
On 2010-04-11 19:38, RS1963 wrote:
Sammmy J you said you had angle issues with the Andrus pins. I don't see where one would have any angle problems unless it was in switching out one of the pins but even that can be covered very well.
[/quote]

I need to get back to Colorado and make sure it's the Andrus set. I think it is. My problem was with the part where the gaff is sitting on the close up pad and another pin was swept down to it and linked.

Let me know if I'm remembering the wrong set!

Sammy
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That's the Andrus set alright. I have never found that to be a problem. Maybe in some instances it can be a problem but I haven't run into it.
Message: Posted by: ropeadope (Apr 30, 2010 10:13PM)
Magic, Inc. had the Jerry Andrus set & original routine not lomg ago. Great set and cheap price.

Have fun,

John
Message: Posted by: Roslyn (Jan 17, 2011 04:50AM)
The original Un-Safety Pins routine is in an earlier Apocalypse. Vol 5, Pg 589.

The Dan Garrett routine mentioned above is a variation of that original routine by Han van Senus. It uses the same modus operandi as the original, but some of the links are different. Its a lovely addition to the original. But, as it says in Apocalypse, you do need to know the original first to understand it.
Message: Posted by: Ron Vergilio (Jan 18, 2011 12:01AM)
I have the original Jerry Andrus set. I bought it, I believe in the late 60's or early 70's, let's just say a while ago. The routine Jerry had I really liked EXCEPT for the switch in of the gaffed pin, which I thought was 'clumsy'. Those of you that have it will know what I mean.

I came up with a better handling and sent it to Jerry. He liked it and said when he reprinted the instructions, he would put it in. Well, that's around 40 years ago and do not know if he ever did add my method. Would be interesting to find out.

-Ron
Message: Posted by: Powermagic (May 10, 2011 12:13PM)
I do not see any magic in the bernstein pins
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkzIj9127yE
The promo is the worst one I have seen and can not see buying it based on the promo.
All I see are already unlinked pins being pulled apart.
Can anyone link to an actual performance?
Message: Posted by: NicholasD (May 10, 2011 02:13PM)
I'm guessing that Bruce Bernstein didn't put up a full video because if you know Pindemonium or Grab That Pinhead, you can probably reconstruct the routine without buying the DVD. Having said that, I bought it because there was one phase in the routine that I really liked.

I now use 4" nickel plated pins which are no longer being made. All of the "soft pin" routines look really good with the larger pins.
If you're persistent, they occasionally come up for sale on E-bay under the category of blanket pins.
Message: Posted by: Powermagic (May 10, 2011 09:51PM)
So the berstien pins are the same gimmick and you are buying a routine not a new prop? Look I do not need the Full routine but what they show in their promo is not selling the trick. ANYONE can look at it and see to pins being pulled apart but can also see they were never together.

So Nicholas, what phase did you buy the Bernstien pins for that the others can not do?

Posted: May 10, 2011 11:02pm
BTW has anyone recently been on airlines with these pins in carry on or pocket? Is there any TSA regulations that might prevent this from being with me?
That is, I do not check bags so if they day to throw it away or check the bag, and you have one of the more expensive versions, eesh...
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (May 11, 2011 04:38AM)
The Slydini pins routine is a good as well. That was also published in Apocalypse and I have seen them available on the Internet.
Message: Posted by: Powermagic (May 11, 2011 03:01PM)
Anyone have any experience or thoughts on 3" pins and air travel?
Message: Posted by: labound (May 12, 2011 10:01AM)
I traveled with pins in my luggage (small piece fits in overhead bin) last year and the year before, but don't know if there's been any restrictions since... also had a razor blade in same luggage.
Message: Posted by: Powermagic (May 12, 2011 11:27AM)
Was that nationally or internationally and where were you flying too and from. This could make a difference for the pins. For a razor blade.... well that is a bit scary...
Message: Posted by: labound (May 13, 2011 12:10PM)
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On 2011-05-12 12:27, Powermagic wrote:
Was that nationally or internationally and where were you flying too and from. This could make a difference for the pins. For a razor blade.... well that is a bit scary...
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It was national - flying into Miami. As I think about it a bit more, the blade might have actually been in my suitcase and not my carry-on bag. As for the pins, they were definately in my carry-on bag. Due to my lack of trust for TSA & baggage handlers, I hand carry all of my essential props & clothes. I've had my larger suitcase take a wrong turn one too many times.
Message: Posted by: Powermagic (May 13, 2011 07:25PM)
Well you could put an eye out with a 3" pin. While it gives me hope if I learn pins, I can take them on a plane but my luck will be a TSA actually does their job and says "Toss those pins" Maybe I have to stay away from gimmicked pins to be safe...
Message: Posted by: The Baldini (Sep 2, 2011 10:23AM)
I watched the Bernstein demo a few times now and it looks to me that the pins are not together at all as he separates them?
I love the idea of this type of effect and I want to give it a try, so which one to go with for the first try at linking pins?
Message: Posted by: Tonylew (Oct 4, 2011 08:33AM)
I was friends with Jerry Andrus for many years. Therefore, I have a personally inscribed copy of his book, Pin Trix, and a still unopened backup set of his pins in an autographed container. I have also heard that you can't get the old nickel plated brass pins any more, but when I just did a google search for them I got numerous hits. For the record, the original Andrus pins were nickel plated, No. 7, brass pins. No. 7 pins are three inches in length.

I developed a very simple way of bringing in the gaffed pin. I start out by letting all the pins be thoroughly examined. I then do the classic Piff-Paff-Poof move with two of them. I next throw those two pins out for reexamination. This allows me all the cover that I need for switching in the gaffed pin. At the end of the routine, I do the PPP move one more time with the good pins and throw them out for examination one more tie as I switch in the good pin for it to be examined also.
Message: Posted by: Bill Hegbli (Oct 4, 2011 11:38AM)
JoAnn Fabric Store sell the heavy duty 3" safety pins in a blister pack. They are available on the rack.
Message: Posted by: bblumen (Oct 4, 2011 12:21PM)
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On 2011-09-02 11:23, dave wrote:

I watched the Bernstein demo a few times now and it looks to me that the pins are not together at all as he separates them?

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The pins [b]are[/b] together as they are separated.


Brian
Message: Posted by: wsduncan (Oct 6, 2011 12:24AM)
The Bernstein routine is pretty much Dan Garrett's routine (available on the Sheet's DVD Grab That Pinhead), plus and ending where he links his finger ring on one of the pins.

Having learned the Andrus routine, I have to say that Dan's routine, as performed by Dan or Bob Sheets, is amazing.
Message: Posted by: skyfire (Mar 20, 2021 12:17PM)
What are the thoughts on the Mad Hatters Timco Linking Safety Pins. Has anyone handled these. He says they can be handed out and examined all they want. Here's the link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsqtI02qu08
Message: Posted by: NicholasD25 (Mar 20, 2021 03:19PM)
[quote]On Mar 20, 2021, skyfire wrote:
What are the thoughts on the Mad Hatters Timco Linking Safety Pins. Has anyone handled these. He says they can be handed out and examined all they want. Here's the link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsqtI02qu08 [/quote]
I don't think all of the pins can be examined. Having said that, the routine has it's good points.
Message: Posted by: gregg webb (Nov 7, 2021 11:12AM)
Slydini's and Sol Stone's routine. The gimmick is different than Andrus's.
Message: Posted by: NicholasD25 (Nov 7, 2021 11:38AM)
My two favorites after years of playing with these routines are Grab that Pinhead by Sheets and Garrett and Geaton Bloom’s pin routine. An added bonus is that the pins can be examined after both routines, though, I never hand them out because of the convincing nature of both .
Message: Posted by: magicbyswh (Jan 14, 2022 11:34AM)
What set of linking pins uses the cut pin opposite the end where the pin actually opens and closes?
Message: Posted by: NicholasD25 (Jan 14, 2022 03:18PM)
[quote]On Jan 14, 2022, magicbyswh wrote:
What set of linking pins uses the cut pin opposite the end where the pin actually opens and closes? [/quote]

The Jerry Andrus pins.