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Topic: Rolling logs, spinning tops, put n take tops
Message: Posted by: blackmagicguy (Jul 17, 2010 11:58PM)
Does anyone know of a source for any or all above gambling effects ,,, spinning tops, rolling logs, put n take tops?
Message: Posted by: Peter Woerde (Jul 18, 2010 02:30AM)
http://www.gamblingcollectibles.com/
Message: Posted by: Marlin1894 (Sep 24, 2010 04:31PM)
That seems like a cool website. Are the items pretty good for the money?
Message: Posted by: Kimura (Sep 24, 2010 05:09PM)
On a kind of related note, what is the correct name for those rolling black/red pencils (Steve Forte demonstrates one during the museum tour) and does anyone know where to buy one?
Message: Posted by: silverking (Sep 24, 2010 05:27PM)
They're called [b]Red and Black Pencil Set[/b].
H.C. Evans (amongst others) made them.

A [i]pair[/i] sold at the Syd Radner auction a while back for $130.00.

Not available anywhere new.......but not hard to make if you understand the principle.
Start with the Statler 123-60 Natural Finish pencil, no eraser, high enough quality that the "hexagonal" shape is consistent all the way around.

(it also helps if you've got an airbrush set-up, although a steady hand will work).
Message: Posted by: Kimura (Sep 25, 2010 06:08PM)
Thanks Silverking, that's just the information I was looking for.
Message: Posted by: Maitre D (Sep 25, 2010 07:32PM)
I had one of those red/black pencils when I was a kid. I had a lot of fun with that thing. I totally forgot about it until I saw the SF museum tour. The one I had worked by a completely different method than all the others I've heard about.

Trost wrote a little something on the red/black pencil, as well as the spinning tops and rolling logs.

Winchester94, the man in charge of Gambling Collectibles is legit and produces some very fine work. I have a buddy who ordered custom tees from him and they looked great.
Message: Posted by: Marlin1894 (Oct 1, 2010 10:37AM)
[quote]
On 2010-09-25 20:32, Maitre D wrote:
Winchester94, the man in charge of Gambling Collectibles is legit and produces some very fine work. I have a buddy who ordered custom tees from him and they looked great.
[/quote]

Thanks. I have been looking and the stuff looks pretty great. I didn't see the custom t shirts. Are they on that same site?
Message: Posted by: Maitre D (Oct 1, 2010 05:49PM)
LOL!
Message: Posted by: Marlin1894 (Oct 1, 2010 09:57PM)
If I said something stupid or funy I swear it was on accident. Did I miss something?
Message: Posted by: Kimura (Oct 2, 2010 02:53AM)
He hasn't sold t-shirts for a while but I think I have a couple lying around if you'd like to buy. They're somewhat of a rarity though so I can't let them go for less than $70-$90 (depending on your shirt size). PM Me.
Message: Posted by: The Dowser (Oct 2, 2010 06:36AM)
I used to be a size 1-4-6 for my t'shirts, but I lost some weight so now I am a 2-3-5.
I hope they are not sold out!
These lucky t-shirts are only so expensive because some gamblers swear they can change your luck. It's been an underground secret for ages.
Message: Posted by: The Dowser (Oct 2, 2010 06:41AM)
If you get your t-shirt printed with the same logo of the casino where you plan to play, and wear it to the table, then it is said to be especially lucky!
Message: Posted by: lisheng (Oct 4, 2010 03:25PM)
Anyone has any examples (photos) of what the tees look like?
Message: Posted by: Maitre D (Oct 4, 2010 04:40PM)
http://www.escapade.co.uk/ProductImages/SALEHIRE/Medium/7254.jpg

I've never seen a size 1-2-5 before.
Message: Posted by: Marlin1894 (Oct 4, 2010 05:55PM)
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On 2010-10-04 16:25, lisheng wrote:
Anyone has any examples (photos) of what the tees look like?
[/quote]

I don't think there really are any, I think they were messing with me.
Message: Posted by: Marlin1894 (Oct 4, 2010 05:57PM)
[img]http://www.escapade.co.uk/ProductImages/SALEHIRE/Medium/7254.jpg[/img]

That dice doesn't look right. Inless his arm is going through the middle spot of the three side it looks wrong. I wouldn't buy that costume.
Message: Posted by: Maitre D (Oct 4, 2010 06:12PM)
This is going too far. I'd really like to be helpful now.

Winchester94 and lisheng,

"Tees," AKA "T's," "tops," "misspots," etc., are dice which do not hold a regular spot pattern. Thus, "custom tees" are dice with spots, logo, and serial numbers however you'd like them to be. This is the service offered by Gambling Collectibles, not custom t-shirts.
Message: Posted by: Marlin1894 (Oct 4, 2010 06:42PM)
Ah! Well that makes sense now. lol. Thanks for that, I appreciate it.
Message: Posted by: Maitre D (Oct 4, 2010 06:57PM)
Sorry I didn't say it in the first place! I thought the misunderstanding was hysterical so I let it drag out.
Message: Posted by: lisheng (Oct 5, 2010 03:33AM)
Ah, thanks for the explanation. I haven't heard of "tees" or "Ts" being used before, especially when "Tshirts" was used, but I should have noticed the "size 1-4-6" stuff. Thanks Maitre for clearing it up !
Message: Posted by: blackmagicguy (Aug 7, 2014 12:37AM)
Silverking makes mention of making a red and black pencil, where can I learn more about making the pencil?
Message: Posted by: jackouille07 (Aug 7, 2014 07:06AM)
Blackmagicguy, you asked about 4 years ago where to find some rolling logs, spinning tops. So, I think, today you own one or more rolling log/spinning tops. With that in your hand, the best place to learn how to make red black pencil is you your home workshop. I don't know your equipement, you'll need maybe to buy machines, accessories and/or materials. After getting the right equipement, you will be able to experiment.

Experimenting is the best learning method, maybe the hardest, but the best.


Cordially.
Message: Posted by: blackmagicguy (Aug 7, 2014 10:26AM)
Mr. Jack ... Yes I own a few tops and logs ... your response to my question about the red and black pencil is less than helpful. I asked where to get info on making the red and black pencil not to critique my question. I have tools and I have built magic props and effects, I asked for building information not an opinion.
Message: Posted by: silverking (Aug 7, 2014 02:44PM)
Hey there Tiger, one more post like that one and you'll likely get no further assistance in this forum.

The manufacture of Red and Black pencils was actually laid right out for you by jackouille07, but you were too anxious to express your displeasure at not being spoon fed the details to see it.
Message: Posted by: jackouille07 (Aug 8, 2014 05:19AM)
Blackmagicguy, I feel sorry If I've been less than helpfull, It seem I've fail in my tries to help someone, despite doing my best. If you have tools and already make magic props and effect, a smart approach would be to show us what tools you have and what you have already done. What have you tried in the making of the pencils? Wich step in the making cause you problems?

If you are searching for an all inclusive box with step by step method and ready to use drawing, I can only say you good luck!

Here is some picture of rolling logs during the making, and the finished set:

http://www.imagesup.net/?di=914074926187
http://www.imagesup.net/?di=1214074926189

Show something interesting and maybe you will nail some interest and then engage a conversation or exchange informations. In magic, there is some secrets you can't buy...

By the way, I know some of the rolling logs showed in the pictures are for sale, if someone is interested I can put you in touch with the seller.

Cordially.
Message: Posted by: luvisi (Aug 26, 2014 09:42PM)
[quote]On Oct 2, 2010, The Dowser wrote:
I used to be a size 1-4-6 for my t'shirts, but I lost some weight so now I am a 2-3-5.[/quote]

I'm a little late replying here, but 1-4-6 strikes me as potentially [i]very[/i] unlucky. Particularly the 1 and the 6 taken together.

Andru