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Topic: Don Alan mini chop cup arrived... how much is too much?
Message: Posted by: Tim Dowd (Jul 29, 2010 06:09PM)
Thank you Donnie... my Don Alan mini chop cup arrived and I worked with it today... great reactions, everyone assumed it was a schnapps cup...

Great weight, fits snug in the hand I use rubber super balls as final loads then produce a mini cricket ball and finally a full sized billiard ball.

Thought it was too much but went down great...

any thoughts on how much is too much... let the comments begin
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Jul 29, 2010 06:14PM)
Tim:

With chop cups, I don't think there is "too much" as long as the routine doesn't drag out. As long as the ending has a logical build, then it works. Yours sounds great to me.

I've used an antique brass cup like yours for several years. It wasn't antique brass when I got it. It just got that way from use. I usually end with two smiley face balls, when I am strolling in the hospitals.

However, my usual routine ends with a rapid fire production of a billiard ball, a cue ball and an 8 ball from a chop cup. That 8 ball really punches the ending.
Message: Posted by: Tim Dowd (Jul 29, 2010 06:22PM)
Thanks Bill... the Billiard Ball is really a killer...

here is a quick picture

http://gallery.me.com/timdowd#100123

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user: Café (all lower case and no accent the Café does this when you write Café)
Password: chopchop
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Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Jul 29, 2010 08:42PM)
Where do you get the mini cricket balls?
Message: Posted by: Tim Dowd (Jul 30, 2010 01:58AM)
Hi Bill I got them here and had them sent to my father (free shipping) then my daughter brought them over when she came back from vacation this spring...

I will be in England between the 16th and 19th August if you want some I can order them to my father's address and then send you a package.

http://www.sportdiscount.com/product/6841/PS_50MM_MINI_CRICKET_BALL
Message: Posted by: Donnie Buckley (Jul 30, 2010 09:14AM)
Tim, it's a pleasure. Glad you are satisfied with the cup.
I couldn't get past the login screen for your photo though, the username and password were rejected.

I love those mini cricket balls. Thanks for the link.

And as long as your audience is surprised by what's coming out from your cup, then it's not "too much". It all depends upon you and your handling of the cup.
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Jul 30, 2010 10:33AM)
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On 2010-07-30 02:58, Tim Dowd wrote:
Hi Bill I got them here and had them sent to my father (free shipping) then my daughter brought them over when she came back from vacation this spring...

I will be in England between the 16th and 19th August if you want some I can order them to my father's address and then send you a package.

http://www.sportdiscount.com/product/6841/PS_50MM_MINI_CRICKET_BALL
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PM'ed you
Message: Posted by: Tim Dowd (Jul 30, 2010 02:48PM)
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On 2010-07-30 10:14, Donnie Buckley wrote:
Tim, it's a pleasure. Glad you are satisfied with the cup.
I couldn't get past the login screen for your photo though, the username and password were rejected.

I love those mini cricket balls. Thanks for the link.

And as long as your audience is surprised by what's coming out from your cup, then it's not "too much". It all depends upon you and your handling of the cup.
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turned off the password thingy - http://gallery.me.com/timdowd#100123

The cricket balls are a little too big for the cup but as a pre-final load it works great... I may do a quick Vimeo this weekend if I get a chance...

Posted: Jul 31, 2010 8:54pm
Not the best take but here it is... http://vimeo.com/13791106
Message: Posted by: dcjames (Jul 31, 2010 10:09PM)
Congrats Mr. Dowd! Well done!

I really enjoyed the routine and the storyline is brilliant.

Thanks for posting that. Very entertaining.

Best,

Doug
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Jul 31, 2010 10:22PM)
Very nice! The billiard ball at the end is definitely a surprise.
Message: Posted by: Tim Dowd (Aug 1, 2010 06:09AM)
Bill & Doug Thanks for that. The Cricket ball comes just before the Billiard ball in the close up version it is dropped into the spectators cupped hands giving plenty of time to load the Billiard ball and have a second spectator cup their hands. If I catch this on video I will post it too...
Message: Posted by: Mark Ross (Aug 1, 2010 08:20AM)
A very enjoyable routine with a good story to go with it...a winning combination.

Mark
Message: Posted by: walid ahumada (Aug 1, 2010 10:08AM)
Thanks for sharing the video, it is nice.

Walid.
Message: Posted by: Donnie Buckley (Aug 1, 2010 12:28PM)
Tim,
That is wonderful, a street con with a touch of witchcraft!
There is a moment at 1:24 when you pick up the cup and say "Riiiight..." that is just brilliant, very natural.
Message: Posted by: jazzy snazzy (Aug 1, 2010 01:13PM)
Nice one Tim! Good story too.
Message: Posted by: robbyrob (Aug 1, 2010 04:33PM)
Nice routine. Loved the story line and even the slight "cursing" slip! Those loads worked well too.
Message: Posted by: Dougini (Aug 2, 2010 03:33PM)
Wow! Mr. Dowd, I'm SO glad you shared that with us! An absolutely BRILLIANT performance. One could NEVER say that it was "too much"!

And, I watched your other videos as well. I noticed you speak German very well. Man, what fun! Just look at the reactions! I'm jealous.

The "other" Doug
Message: Posted by: Tim Dowd (Aug 2, 2010 03:57PM)
Thanks Mark, Walid, Jazzy, Robby, the other Doug glad you all liked it...
Donnie, it even surprised me :)

I should post the outtakes... maybe in the secret sessions :)
Message: Posted by: afinemesh (Aug 2, 2010 04:45PM)
Mr. Dowd,
Very nice routine. Entertaining and direct.I always like to see what others are doing with the chop cup or the cups and balls.
Message: Posted by: Turk (Aug 7, 2010 11:36PM)
Tim,

A very very nice routine. Very tightly routined and a great and entertaining story to boot. Your routine just goes to prove that originality in performance is both fun and highly rewarding.

Way to go.

I thoroughly enjoyed the premise, the presentation and the performance.

Mike

P.S. BTW, is the music also original? Regardless, it fit the performance like a glove. It was both whimsical and lightly tongue-in-cheek magical. Perfect music for the routine.
Message: Posted by: Tim Dowd (Aug 8, 2010 02:48AM)
Hi afinemesh, thanks...

Hi Turk, I try to personalize everything I do in magic just to be ahead of the game... competition here in southern Germany is getting fierce... Being and Englishman helps me to be "exotic" here but I feel a believable story is entertainment enough for most audiences, when coupled with an astonishing visual effect the bond tightens and the entertainment value is increased.

I learned a lot from "Books of Wonder" by Tommy Wonder, there is a whole chapter on the story... I recommend this to everyone.

I bought the music from PrimeLoops.com (Genre: Classical - Orchestral Scores) here is a link http://primeloops.com/loops-samples/product/orchestral-scores~134/
The track is called "The Sorcerer Waltz" Tempo 120 in F#minor (harmonic) it's a 24 second loop which you can extend to any length you want.

Posted: Aug 8, 2010 11:00am
Hi Mike,

Sorry I forgot to thank you for your comments I really appreciate the encouragement from you and every member here... Magicians helping Magicians...
Timothy Dowd
Message: Posted by: magus-inc (Oct 14, 2010 05:18PM)
Hi I am looking for any ideas for a masonic based chop cup script
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Oct 14, 2010 05:26PM)
Are you a Mason?
Message: Posted by: Tim Dowd (Oct 14, 2010 05:33PM)
Just copy my routine with your trouser leg rolled up :)

Seriously though... just tell a story which actually happened to you or think of a stereotype you may want to exploit...

one idea springs to mind using the black balling of a candidate (or whatever the secret name is...)
Message: Posted by: Pete Biro (Oct 14, 2010 05:50PM)
Well done... good pacing strong finish.
Message: Posted by: panlives (Oct 14, 2010 07:21PM)
The conversational demeanor works wonderfully.

It was a pleasure to watch and listen.

Every part of this routine, including the body language, is spot-on.
Message: Posted by: Corbett (Mar 2, 2011 05:23PM)
Mr. Dowd, this is a bit off topic, but I wanted to inquire about your table in your video. Did you purchase or make it youself?

Corbett
Message: Posted by: Andrew Zuber (Mar 2, 2011 05:41PM)
Thanks Corbett for bringing this thread back - I hadn't seen that clip. Fantastic routine, Tim. I loved it!
Message: Posted by: mavericklancer (Mar 2, 2011 05:48PM)
Wow... great routine. I loved it haha. The music really added to the mood.
Message: Posted by: Andrew Zuber (Mar 2, 2011 05:55PM)
Yeah I think Tim just made a sale for that music site. I've been searching for some royalty free stuff and this is exactly what I needed.
Message: Posted by: Tim Dowd (Mar 3, 2011 02:16PM)
Hi Guys, thanks for reviving this thread I am really proud of the story... as for the table I bought it here in Germany from a magic dealer but I am not really happy with the quality... the silver is flaking off the legs... it is no longer available but was called the "Adlatus"
Message: Posted by: Erwin (Mar 3, 2011 03:34PM)
I love that clip. The couple of 'moments' make it even better. Nice one Herr Dowd. :D
Message: Posted by: Bill Wilson (Mar 3, 2011 03:47PM)
Nice routine and I like that little cup.
Message: Posted by: magichunter (Mar 14, 2011 06:05PM)
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On 2010-07-31 20:54, Tim Dowd wrote:
Not the best take but here it is... http://vimeo.com/13791106
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Well I would like to see the better ones, because this was really good. Your great presentation makes a traditional/straightforward routine really shine.
Message: Posted by: brian314 (Mar 15, 2011 10:54PM)
Tim,

Great routine, The cup looks really good. RNT2 has some fantastic products. I brought new life into my old cups with their chopped ball set.

Brian
Message: Posted by: Tim Dowd (Mar 16, 2011 12:14AM)
Thanks guys... I really appreciate the encouragement.
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Mar 16, 2011 12:30AM)
I do like the way you do this routine, Tim.

Any chance that you might be at Eurocol 4?
Message: Posted by: Tim Dowd (Mar 16, 2011 12:46AM)
Hi Bill, sounds interesting, I might pop over just to meet you :)
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Mar 16, 2011 02:44AM)
I'll send you some more info.