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Topic: Wordpress free hosting
Message: Posted by: Doruk Ülgen (Aug 7, 2010 03:08PM)
Hi all,
I've been trying to install a wordpress website but I have a problem.
I've been working on so many things lately and my brain is going to explode so I decided to ask you before gong any further.


I've installed the wordpress on my free hosting and I think there is a problem with the memory limits of my hosting,tried to fix it via editing some files,searching the net but couldn't come to a solution and I think I wont bcause the host service is limited.

Can anyone recommend a free web hosting without ads,pop-ups,etc that supports wordpress?

best,
Doruk
Message: Posted by: ScottRSullivan (Aug 7, 2010 03:36PM)
Free services might also have SQL limits, too.

Shared hosting services are not that expensive. I think mine is around $5 per month. Most are around the same.

Plus you get unlimited bandwidth, no ads, popups or other revenue generating junk on which the free sites rely.

Someone might prove me wrong, and I'd love to learn. But the $5 per month has been well spent for me.
Message: Posted by: Doruk Ülgen (Aug 7, 2010 03:41PM)
Mine does have MYSQL but like you said I don't know the limits, and really not want to go more in depth to it.

I'd prefer a free one if I can get it for free, if not then I'll need to get one service like you said.
I don't need much bandwith, and I had find no ad,popup,etc free services.
Just don't know which is ok with wordpress,I'm new to it,it will be my first try...
Message: Posted by: Doruk Ülgen (Aug 7, 2010 03:53PM)
I also tried yola, but didn't like the sign in the bottom.
downloadd joomola but not tried it yet.
If anyone offers any more sites which creates html or php sites fast,easy,not complicated and nice,I'd like to hear...
Message: Posted by: ScottRSullivan (Aug 7, 2010 03:56PM)
I'm a fan of WordPress over the others. Have you tried WordPress.com instead of downloading the install package on the .org site? Just a thought.

The .com site offers everything the .org install does except you don't get your own domain. Instead you get a subdomain like scottsullivan.WordPress.com
Message: Posted by: Doruk Ülgen (Aug 7, 2010 04:15PM)
I did not do it,wasnt aware of it.

When I finalize it trough wordpress.com , can I download it to my computer as it is to upload to my hosting?

otherwise I'll have to forward my domain to there...
Message: Posted by: ScottRSullivan (Aug 7, 2010 04:23PM)
No, it would only be hosted at <subdomain>.wordpress.com

From what I'm told, you can transfer that to a local install of Wordpress (from the .org download). Though I've never actually tried to do this.

But the short answer is that you'd have to forward from your domain.

I'm still sorry I don't know any free sites that don't have popups/etc for the real wordpress.org install.
Message: Posted by: Doruk Ülgen (Aug 7, 2010 05:29PM)
Sounds logical, I believe its possible and should be available too.

I'll try it trough .com first.

If anyone knows a free hosting site,please let us know.
Message: Posted by: Doruk Ülgen (Aug 7, 2010 05:46PM)
And one more question on the fly; how do you add plugins if you are using it trough .com ? :)
Message: Posted by: Doruk Ülgen (Aug 7, 2010 05:57PM)
Working on wordpress trough .com now but I suspect its not possible to upload plugins so it does not mean anything if its like that....
Message: Posted by: TheDean (Aug 7, 2010 08:26PM)
I have used ALL of the above, each for the most appropriate solution for specific goals and outcomes… Hosting is CHEAP (as little as .99 cents… most “good-ones” are 5.00-10.00 bucks a month for massive space and features!) and one crappy booking will pay for it for an entire year with money left over...

Hey, don’t get me wrong… I am a HUUUUGE fan of “FREEmiums” when appropriate and like I said, I have done (and still do…) some of each for EACH situation and planned goal and outcome.

PLEASE just make SURE you are choosing the right solution for the “planned goal, solution & outcome” and not JUST to save a couple a’ bucks. – Just sayin’!

The Success eMinder is a FREE Wordpress site… forwarded domain name is all.
= http://www.SuccessEminder.com
= http://www.SuccessEminder.WordPress.com
SAME Place… (as one example.)

I have over 30 active sites... some free, some paid, some WP.org, others WP.com, Yola, hosted and others... Just sayin'.

What is your "PLAN" for your business success & resuts?

Dean
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Message: Posted by: Kellar (Aug 7, 2010 08:46PM)
There you go with those "questions" again Dean ~0:)

Someone once said to me "It's like a map, track your journey from your desination back to way you are now and look at the all the things you have to pass to get to where you want to be"

The statement may sound off topic, but please read it again.

OH and I should say "Sorry I can't give any technical advice directly as per your inqury!"
Message: Posted by: rossmacrae (Aug 7, 2010 11:14PM)
Are you doing a blog? That's all Wordpress is good for. If not, if you just want a personal website, dump Wordpress and use your host's free site-builder (if they don't have one, get your money back and switch to powweb.com) or design it yourself with WYSIWYG software.
Message: Posted by: ScottRSullivan (Aug 7, 2010 11:46PM)
Ross, I beg to differ. WordPress offers many advantages, from seo to quick ability to change/update the site, for example.

Check my site:
[url=http://digitalblacksmiths.com/?utm_source=cafe&utm_medium=dl&utm_campaign=wordpress-thread]DigitalBlacksmiths.com[/url]

Now check out my newer site (still being tweaked)
[url=http://nothingupmysleeves.com/?utm_source=cafe&utm_medium=dl&utm_campaign=wordpress-thread]NothingUpMySleeves.com[/url]

Now tell me if then if you think a blog is all WordPress is good for. Both sites are WordPress, yet a blog is such a small part of it.
Message: Posted by: TheDean (Aug 8, 2010 01:01AM)
Oh I TOTALLY AGREE with SCOTT...

There are soooooooo many more and better reasons to use the 'WordPress' platform and engine as the vehicle to build your online empire than just some site builder... Sooooooooo Many!

= It is way more search-engine friendly! (Already built-in!)
= It’s FREE!
= Thousands of FREE Themes & Templates!
= Thousands more VERY reasonable!
= Super EZ to use, up-date, post, host & deploy!
= Thousands of FREE (and Low Cost) Plug-Ins, Widgets, Tools, Resources!
= One-Click Up-Dates, Changes & Site Management Organization!
= Video Friendly!
= Automatic RSS and Connection Platforms!
= Super EZ & Friendly with Social Media(s)!
…and soooooooooo much more!
Message: Posted by: Doruk Ülgen (Aug 8, 2010 04:55AM)
Thank you all for the inputs.

I'm not into a blog, I want to build a site,quick and effective. Major advantagee I want to gain from wordpress is SEO.

Has anyone built their site via wordpress.com ? I think its not possible to add plugins and build sites like Scott exampled.

And Dean; I don't need much bandwith (I work niche), and I don't need too much space,just hosting the site is enough for me. Can you reccommend any trustable and cheap hosting? I totally agree with you about saving bucks,I just don't want to spend on some fance features that I don't need at all..
Message: Posted by: rossmacrae (Aug 8, 2010 06:50AM)
I guess we disagree ... you don't find that Wordpress is often unbearably slow for the user to access?
Message: Posted by: ScottRSullivan (Aug 8, 2010 08:49AM)
Doruk, those sites are all CSS and setup as a "theme". As such, they can be imported to WordPress.com, I believe. But as I said, vie not used the .com service since I already have the hosting service.

Wordpress.com has plugins, just like the .org. The main difference is that one is self hosted, the other is hosted on their server.

Ross, did you find my sites slow? When using a caching plugin, it's fine. None of us, no matter how big our egos, will get tens or hundreds of thousands of hits per day.

That said, there are some BIG name sites that run on WordPress.

I'd even go one step further and say that a WSYWIG editor will actually give you worse results because of it's injection of proprietary code. This is why so many sites look great on one browser, but fall apart in Explorer or Firefox or some other browser. The WSYWIG editor doesn't generate CSS or HTML compliant code.

To each his own.
Message: Posted by: Doruk Ülgen (Aug 8, 2010 11:10AM)
Well that's what I believe too but I really cannot find how to upload,activate plugins. there is no info or link to follow. Searched a lot...

if anyone knows let us know too.... or I'm looking for the cheap hosting solution that I can trust...
Message: Posted by: ScottRSullivan (Aug 8, 2010 11:20AM)
I setup an account and it looks like I might have been mistaken regarding the plugins. Regardless, my two sites that I showed don't have any plugins that make the site "work." They are both just CSS and HTML. The only plugins I use are for caching and security, which the .com site takes care of for you anyway.

Just as an FYI, here's my hosting solution. I've been with them for about 6 or 7 years and love them:

http://a2hosting.com

Their startup plan is $3.30 a month. Not too shabby. That's a coffee. I have their "executive" plan which is a whole $2 more.

Plus, they let you have more than one domain on the same account for free (it's called an "add-on domain". I've actually got 9 sites hosted on this one account (at no additional cost), which, when divided by the payment, comes out to something like $1.50 per site per month!
Message: Posted by: sb (Aug 8, 2010 12:59PM)
My site is wordpress as well. http://www.puremagiclive.com
it is soooo easy to work with. I did pay someone to set up the "backend" part - the installing it, but I can change things in real time on the fly. So easy to work with!

The plugins are easy to use and download too.

scott
Message: Posted by: MikeClay (Aug 8, 2010 02:46PM)
Ok so I go away for a week and yall start talking about my life....

I live breath and speak wordpress... I LOVE IT...

Last week we launched 12 wordpress websites and within 4 days 8 of them where on the front page of google for their primary keyword

All the sites I use are wordpress and less than 1/3 or them are blogs

to answer the question about why the free hosting isn't working...
it's because some web hosting sites in the name of security block some features (it's no as much security as it is laziness and lack of tech skill)

I like Hostgator.com and have over 100 wordpress sites on their network

as far as wordpress being slow.. um sure if you add a ton of plugins.. but it outranks standard websites EASY.. and Google has a illicit love affair with blogs and wordpress ..

I will do a wordpress plugin roundup on marketingmastergroup.com this upcomming week
Message: Posted by: Doruk Ülgen (Aug 8, 2010 04:28PM)
So Mike, do you work trough wordpress.com or download from .org site?

if you have used .com does it acceps plugins?



also I found this site for hosting; http://webhostingworld.net/turkey/plans.html does anyone know it does it look safe to you ? $1 a month ? :)

Scott: I liked the add on domain, thanks. I may go with your hosting...
Message: Posted by: Ed_Millis (Aug 9, 2010 10:08AM)
Dunno if I just think differently than 98% of everyone else, but WordPress confused me!

Rather than turn this forum into a WP help page, can I safely assume that WP has it's own community forum for people like me that need to be led by the hand to see what's right in front of them?

Ed
Message: Posted by: Tim Zager (Aug 9, 2010 10:39AM)
Ed, You can find great WP support here: http://wordpress.org/support/

The forum is filled with discussions on any topic you might need help with. Very helpful people there.
Message: Posted by: idomagic (Aug 9, 2010 11:54AM)
FYI, I make custom WordPress themes. If you want to make your site really unique and not just another free WP theme, PM me. It's generally under $100.00 for a completely unique theme.

http://www.DenverMagician.com is an example of a WordPress theme.
http://www.iDoMagic.com is an example of a Drupal theme that matches the other.
Message: Posted by: rossmacrae (Aug 9, 2010 02:30PM)
[quote]
On 2010-08-09 11:08, Ed_Millis wrote:
Dunno if I just think differently than 98% of everyone else, but WordPress confused me!

Rather than turn this forum into a WP help page, can I safely assume that WP has it's own community forum for people like me that need to be led by the hand to see what's right in front of them?

Ed
[/quote]

Thank you! I thought I was the only one who read the promise that it's easy as pie to set up, completely intuitive, you can do it in 5 minutes ... and utterly failed. I STILL don't know how I lucked into my blog/podcast setup, and I couldn't do it again for anything.
Message: Posted by: ScottRSullivan (Aug 9, 2010 02:57PM)
Ross, you're a great guy. And I'm sorry you have a grudge against Wordpress.

I don't know who said ANYONE can setup a WP blog in 5 minutes. That's like saying ANYONE can do a Faro shuffle in 5 minutes.

But if you have a knack for coding, understand basic CSS and HTML, then Wordpress is a great fit for many people and IS a very effective tool.

Sorry you've had such a negative experience.

Perhaps instead of trying to trudge through the install/design process solo, having someone guide you through the new forest would have made your experience more positive. There are PLENTY of us that try and help others for FREE (Mike and Dean come to mind, but there are many more). I don't accept money for web design, so I love HELPING others build them, but there are plenty of talented folks here who do accept money to design and they are pros at it because that's what they do.

We all have specialties. Let's help each other by using those specialties, not just write off a useful tool because of a lack of understanding. We're here to help with that understanding and raise the bar for everyone. Together, we can do much more than alone.
Message: Posted by: Doruk Ülgen (Aug 9, 2010 04:10PM)
Ed, Ross, I'm with you my friends :)

Scott your last post really makes me feel good. Like you said; yourself,Dean, Mike, Scott G., Kyle and all the others ( sorry for those who I forgot to mention their name) are really valuable people for me and for our art. I really appriciate all your courtesy and willingness to help.


Starting with wordpress is frustrating at the start I think but once it rolls, it will go easier.

I'm repeating a post;
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So Mike, do you work trough wordpress.com or download from .org site?
if you have used .com does it acceps plugins?

also I found this site for hosting; http://webhostingworld.net/turkey/plans.html does anyone know it does it look safe to you ? $1 a month ?
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Also found this site to be very good in price; http://dollar2host.com/ $2 a month and they have unlimited domain hosting, it is call addon domain,I learned from Scott :)
Message: Posted by: TheDean (Aug 9, 2010 04:40PM)
I am a self-admitted "techno-Boob" and NO TECH, but like ANYTHING I Learned how to use Wordpress and it is (for no-techs) still the simplest and easiest web system for the investment I have seen...

(Beside Yola or one of those... accept WP.Com Is easier that that too!)

CERTAINLY easier than an HTML Editor and up-loading a site in the traditional sense that is for sure!

OF COURSE, like ANYTHING, there is something to be learned… that is just LIFE!

No Biggy... Just sayin'
Dean
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Message: Posted by: Doruk Ülgen (Aug 10, 2010 05:36PM)
Just to let you all know the progress;

I found out that my host has already wordpress, so I installed directly from them and it worked, now I'm discovering things.... :)
Message: Posted by: Ed_Millis (Aug 11, 2010 02:17PM)
Any opinions from the experienced WP users on these plug-ins?

http://tinyurl.com/235snfe

Ed
Message: Posted by: MikeClay (Aug 12, 2010 05:48PM)
A note... many of the places offer the auto install of WP but umm they only support that version... make sure they support WP and not just that version..

ED-
the plugins I like

I've used most of these and like them

Woopra- looks kewl.. havnt used it (will try it on a site I am running now to see how it compares to google)

The All in one SEO ... I just found this one
http://www.seodesignsolutions.com/wordpress-seo/
and so far LIKE IT ALOT

the no category base one... umm setup your permalinks and I don't see why it is needed..

linkwithin is another one that I have found and love...

Anyone at Kidabbra??
Brad Ross is now pushing Wordpress
Message: Posted by: Doruk Ülgen (Aug 14, 2010 06:00AM)
Mike,
The version thing you said stopped me on the way. My host offered 2.3.3 version I tried to upgrade using some plugins but couldn't. Haven't tried uploading the newest versions files manually, so don't know if it will support or not, yet...
Message: Posted by: MikeClay (Aug 14, 2010 06:41AM)
Yeah...

I ran into this a lot helping people get their sites built..
One company after a week of work told me that they would only support what they allowed to be installed (2.3.3 or OLDER)

this is why I tell people (HOSTGATOR) because I know they are setup correctly
Message: Posted by: monstercreations (Aug 14, 2010 03:14PM)
Hi,
Wordpress is great! I was gobsmacked when I read the post it's only good for blogs!

Here are 3 recent magician sites we have designed in wordpress:
http://magicste.co.uk
http://www.fletcher-magic.com
http://www.paulmetcalfe.tv

As I hope you can see it is quite flexible!
Any WP questions then give me a shout,
Cheers,
Ade
Message: Posted by: aussiemagic (Aug 14, 2010 10:46PM)
Awesome looking sites!
Message: Posted by: ScottRSullivan (Aug 14, 2010 11:18PM)
Ade,
Surely you jest. I mean, wordpress is just for blogs! *grin* Hopefully after seeing your work, others will be convinced.

Nice work. I always enjoy your creations. Great design. Never Flash.
Scott
Message: Posted by: MikeClay (Aug 15, 2010 07:45AM)
From Ed's post on plugins...

The guy who wrote the article emailed me with a reply to what I said on the plugins.. Which shows GOOGLE INDEXES THESE "WATCH WHAT YOU SAY"

ANYWAY I told him I would pass on the info..... so here is a paste from the email

First off, if you take a look at Woopra you'll probably love it, the biggest difference between Woopra and Google Analytics is that Woopra is Real-Time and the WordPress plugin offers some pretty slick additional features like auto-tagging commenters. You can see an interview on the uses of Real Time Analytics I did with John P. the CEO of Woopra here: http://www.vsellis.com/get-online/interview-with-john-pozadzides-of-woopra-on-practical-applications-of-real-time-analytics/

Second, regarding your the "No Category Base" plugin.. you are "partly correct regarding permalinks, however if you set up your permalinks to include the category name in the url (which can be good for SEO depending on how you have your categories named and set up) then when you browse to a category archives page WordPress will in include "/category" in the URL by default, which does you no good (from an SEO standpoint) and really just clutters up your URL's.

For example, if you have a category called "card-tricks" and someone goes to that category page the url would be http://yoursite.com/category/card-tricks so the plugin essentially tightens that up to http://yoursite.com/card-tricks.

Just to be sure I quickly tested this on my own site I went to my category page for WordPress How To's (http://www.vsellis.com/wordpress-how-to/) then turned off the plugin and refreshed the page and got http://www.vsellis.com/category/wordpress-how-to/ (yuck) so I can confirm that this has not been fixed in the WordPress Core Code.
Message: Posted by: Ed_Millis (Aug 15, 2010 06:13PM)
One more question - will WordPress help fix the IE/FFox/Chrome/etc issues? I've made some strides on CSS and HTML, but I've got enough going on right now to polish my magic without trying to learn two foreign languages, too!

If I use the WP site, can I just insert content and let the site take care of browser compatability issues? (If not, what about Yola?)

Ed
Message: Posted by: MikeClay (Aug 15, 2010 06:31PM)
Wordpress for the most part uses good CSS that is cross browser compatible..

MOST theme designers (IThemes, WOOTHemes) do a very good job at not using any code that is specific to any single browser that I have seen

And I have a developers account with WooThemes and have about 6 of the IThemes (including Flex and Builder which are 2 of my favorite themes)
Message: Posted by: ScottRSullivan (Aug 17, 2010 09:04PM)
[quote]
On 2010-08-15 19:31, MikeClay wrote:
MOST theme designers ... do a very good job at not using any code that is specific to any single browser...
[/quote]

Except code that has to be inserted specifically for IE v6 explaining it how it should display a CSS standard that's as old as dust because someone at MS decided standards are for wimps. *shakes head* I hate IE. I bless every day I work on my Mac.

On a more serious note, I really hope people have read what Mike and Ade write, because these guys know their stuff.
Message: Posted by: MikeClay (Aug 18, 2010 08:30AM)
Thanks Scott

I am working on a blog post of plugin lists for wordpress newbies

along with tutorials to jumpstart things..