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Topic: Chop2
Message: Posted by: afinemesh (Aug 20, 2010 02:55PM)
Hey All,

I've been working on John Bannon's CHOP2 chop cup routine. Very cool to have "odd" loads between the regular balls sequence and the final loads.

Does anyone know of any other routines that use this idea? And, Is anyone doing or working on this or a variation of this routine?

Would love to hear about it.

Jorey
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Aug 20, 2010 11:11PM)
I never liked this idea. It appears to me to be a sidetrack. The whole purpose of the chop cup, really, is to get to the final loads fairly quickly. Anything that gets in the way is a minus, in my opinion.
Message: Posted by: afinemesh (Aug 21, 2010 12:08AM)
As always thank you for your thoughts, Bill.

Jorey
Message: Posted by: Dale Houck (Aug 21, 2010 09:55AM)
I do something like this, only with a Benson Bowl. I use 1.5" diameter fake diamonds instead of sponge balls and the final-final load is a 3" diameter fake diamond. Before the giant fake diamond, I load a vintage glass door knob with a brass attachment where it goes into the door. It is absolutely a sidetrack, but it's actually easier to load than the giant diamond. The surprise of the door knob gives me all the time I would ever need to load the final fake diamond. It's the only odd load I've ever used that I can think of.
Message: Posted by: afinemesh (Aug 21, 2010 11:54AM)
Dhouck,

So, the idea is a distraction load similar to showing the third final load (in a Cup & Balls routine) to distract while loading the fourth final. Is that accurate?
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Aug 21, 2010 12:02PM)
In the Benson Bowl routine, as it was originally done by Benson, there really wasn't a final load sequence. Instead, he led into a sponge ball routine. Don Alan may have been the one who introduced the idea of using a final load in the bowl. He did a bit where he would go from the bowl to a sponge ball interlude, then produce a bagel.

Later, he used a hockey puck.
Message: Posted by: Dale Houck (Aug 21, 2010 12:45PM)
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On 2010-08-21 12:54, afinemesh wrote:
Dhouck,

So, the idea is a distraction load similar to showing the third final load (in a Cup & Balls routine) to distract while loading the fourth final. Is that accurate?
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That's definitely my intent. In my case the large fake diamond is heavy (11 oz) and awkward so the distraction is useful. The funny thing is, the glass door knob is an antique and worth some money and the fake diamond is worthless.
Message: Posted by: doug brewer (Aug 22, 2010 01:16AM)
I perform this occassionally. It is an odd routine - not bad - just odd. Really, the cup is serving as the source for a long string of production items, each one "misdirecting" from the next load. I know for a fact that it isn't as strong as a normal cups and balls routine (well, at least the one I do), so I only really do it if I have a lot of kids at the table.
Message: Posted by: TheAmbitiousCard (Aug 22, 2010 01:19AM)
I personally like the idea. I also like his cups and balls routine.

I thought JBs chop cup routine is one of the better ones I've come across.
Message: Posted by: Eric Johnson (Aug 22, 2010 10:33AM)
I have to agree.I have been using Chop2 since I got Impossibilia.It is always in my set and have always gotten great reaction from it.
Eric Johnson