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Topic: OutOfSleight.com with Bill Palmer
Message: Posted by: djkuttdecks (Sep 30, 2010 09:28PM)
So many of you know that the Out of Sleight project was once just a simple cups and balls routine. Well, that's changing a bit. We are rereleasing the site with a whole new face lift and gobs of great content. We are going in a new direction, helping the actual working magician. With that said, we are working on some great new effects as well.

A shameless plug as that might have seemed, this is not why I am writing. I just left our Nashville production studio shooting some of the most incredible and priceless content about the Cups and Balls available.

Here's the story; It was 12 noon and I just finished my radio show. Soon as we signed off the air I got a phone call from our favorite "go-to guy" for the cups and balls, Mr. Bill Palmer. The following conversation took place...

Bill: "Lee, this is Bill."

Lee: "Hi Bill, what's up?"

Bill: "I'm coming to Nashville. I will call you when I land"

Phone: "Click"

Lee: "What? Hello? Bill...?"

During his flight to Nashville I got to thinking about the OutOfSleight.com project. It was a no brainer! We have to get Bill Palmer. I scrambled to get a videographer as well as some lights and cameras (not too hard when you work for a production company) and when he landed I bribed him with a sandwich wrap from the local Café'.

What followed tonight was an AMAZING 2 hour interview with Bill Palmer exclusively about the Cups and Balls. We covered EVERYTHING you could imagine. How he got into the trick, the history, his favorite cups, cups that no one even knows about, books and video everyone should research, differences in cups with cups in hand, the list goes on and on. A wealth of knowledge just poured out on camera like I have never seen. I can't wait for people to see this content!

Like I said, its priceless! So, I guess that means I can't put a price on it. As we edit it, we will be releasing the content to be viewed online absolutely free. I was really honored to be able to meet with Bill and make this possible and it's also my honor to make it available to those who truly love the cups and balls.

And don't worry... there won't be any exposure of the effect in the content.

This is insight into the original classic of magic by one of the foremost experts.

What a night! Video will be posted after it goes through editing and processing. I know this can not happen fast enough for most people (myself included) so to hold you over I will post some pictures from the shoot tonight... check back in a few moments!

-Lee & outofsleight.com (which is under construction but you can explore around)
Message: Posted by: djkuttdecks (Sep 30, 2010 10:23PM)
As Promised! These are just production shots so yes you will see recording gear in the photos like boom mics and cameras.











I am very excited for the footage and wealth of content to come!

-Lee & OutOfSleight.com
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Sep 30, 2010 10:28PM)
Hey! I have a hat just like that one!!!!

Seriously, this was a fun shoot. Heck, it was a fun evening.
Message: Posted by: yin_howe (Sep 30, 2010 10:42PM)

Looking forward to it!

Thanks to Lee and Mr Palmer.
Message: Posted by: Tom Fenton (Sep 30, 2010 11:40PM)
This is going to be great.

Thank you Lee and Bill.
Message: Posted by: Josh the Superfluous (Oct 1, 2010 12:07AM)
Very cool!
Message: Posted by: cupsandballsmagic (Oct 1, 2010 02:17AM)
Lee, I know you are working hard... but please don't keep us waiting too long! Oh... and..... THANKS!
I have listened to Bill's MP3 many times, video would be even better...

Message: Posted by: RogueMD (Oct 1, 2010 06:14AM)
Gee... am I am timely guy or what? (Just getting into C&B now)!
Really loooking forward to this.

Thank you!

Message: Posted by: jazzy snazzy (Oct 1, 2010 06:44AM)
[b]Must See TV![/b]
Message: Posted by: walid ahumada (Oct 1, 2010 08:49AM)
I'm waiting for that magical experience.
Message: Posted by: djkuttdecks (Oct 1, 2010 09:04AM)
I can say this. Those who's patients are shorter than a Paul Fox mini cup may want to follow the twitter account. I most likely will update that first since it's directly connected to my cell phone. However, that's not to say it won't still be awhile :-p


The editor is just now transferring the footage and quality video takes time. That why it will be released piece by piece. Also, just for the Café' family to know... this is the first and currently only discussion on the project. I felt that this community (specifically the Ever so Sleightly section) deserved to know first. Sadly that also means you have to be the most patient. In this case ignorance might have been bliss for many. I know I can't wait either!

-Lee & OutOfSleight.com
Message: Posted by: Scott Compton (Oct 1, 2010 10:40AM)
Wow...good stuff! Can't wait...
Message: Posted by: BCS (Oct 1, 2010 10:41AM)
As others have said… way cool. I enjoyed the photos too.

Message: Posted by: Sir Richard (Oct 1, 2010 11:04AM)
Way cool; I never really realized how much bill Palmer resembles the late Burl Ives; or even the late Col. Sanders as far as that goes. :bg: :rolleyes:

Sir Richard.
Message: Posted by: lint (Oct 1, 2010 11:40AM)
Cannot wait!
Message: Posted by: jazzy snazzy (Oct 1, 2010 11:43AM)
Are those cameras Canon 5D's?
Message: Posted by: djkuttdecks (Oct 1, 2010 11:50AM)
On 2010-10-01 12:43, jazzy snazzy wrote:
Are those cameras Canon 5D's?

1) Canon 5d MK2
1) Canon 7d

and some GREAT lens's
Message: Posted by: jazzy snazzy (Oct 1, 2010 11:56AM)
Nice big chip on those. Most folks are using them for video rather than stills.
The TV series "24" is using a whole bunch of them. Very good for action shots in very tight areas.
Message: Posted by: dcjames (Oct 1, 2010 02:07PM)
This is amazing. Can't wait to see the footage.

Thanks so much Lee & Bill. I am sure this will prove to be both entertaining and educational.

Best regards,

Message: Posted by: Christopher Moro (Oct 1, 2010 03:38PM)
This is gonna be good.
Message: Posted by: afinemesh (Oct 1, 2010 03:38PM)
Thank you, Bill and Lee

Can't wait to see what should be a wealth of goodies!

Message: Posted by: panlives (Oct 1, 2010 03:59PM)
This may have heated the embers for the hottest hot spot on the planet.

Bill Palmer is the ideal (and singular) personality to re-launch your site. He elevates the art.

Thank you!
Message: Posted by: Donnie Buckley (Oct 1, 2010 04:14PM)
Kudo to you Lee for landing Bill Palmer and getting the video goods. It just goes to show how much faith Bill has in you!
I'm looking forward to seeing what you are doing at http://www.OutOfSleight.com and where you are heading.
If I can be of any help, just let me know.
Message: Posted by: Bill Palmer (Oct 1, 2010 11:07PM)
You guys have said many nice things about me here. I hope I don't let you down.

BTW, one of the first things I noticed when I walked into the studio was the Canon 7D. I have been using Canon cameras to shoot the photos on the Museum site for a long time. I started with a Digital Rebel, then an XTi. Then I got a 40D. I liked that one a lot, but when the 7D came out, I traded the 40D in on a 7D and the 24-70mmL series lens.

I really like that combination. I had never tried using it for video. Seeing the results, I know that I will be doing that in the future.

This really was a fun shoot.
Message: Posted by: fortasse (Oct 2, 2010 06:03AM)
Great stuff. Really looking forward to this.
Message: Posted by: djkuttdecks (Oct 4, 2010 09:16PM)
I just wanted to let everyone know that the video and site are coming along really well. We had a big breakthrough on the site for a live streaming system that can be embedded on the site so NEXT TIME when I decide to do something like this we can actually stream it live as well as archiving for DVD and online video. Pretty awesome stuff... Im wonder if we are going to start seeing lectures done this way? .... hmmm, might be on to something. shhhhhhh.
Message: Posted by: jazzy snazzy (Oct 4, 2010 09:42PM)
A great way to go as long as you can keep it private - by subscription only.
You can also go interactive with a modest investment.
We run woodworking seminars on UStream and Stickam but they're free and public, which wouldn't be appropriate for your purposes. Itunes is another option.
Message: Posted by: djkuttdecks (Oct 4, 2010 09:51PM)
On 2010-10-04 22:42, jazzy snazzy wrote:
A great way to go as long as you can keep it private - by subscription only.
You can also go interactive with a modest investment.
We run woodworking seminars on UStream and Stickam but they're free and public, which wouldn't be appropriate for your purposes. Itunes is another option.

I assure you this has really been taken into consideration. It's a fine line between public help and exposure and I don't tap dance :)
Message: Posted by: fortasse (Jan 10, 2011 12:14AM)
Any new developments here?

Message: Posted by: conjurormatt (Jan 10, 2011 01:25AM)
I don't know, but I sure hope another installment of the Bill Palmer series comes out soon, I want to see the part some of the above pictures were taken from (playing with wands, I think).

Matt M.
Message: Posted by: Keith Mitchell (Jan 10, 2011 11:19AM)
Let me take a wild guess - there's no Closed-Caption/Subtitles? Am I right?

Ok well, life goes on...
Message: Posted by: djkuttdecks (Jan 11, 2011 09:39AM)
On 2011-01-10 01:14, fortasse wrote:
Any new developments here?


tick tick tick tick tick tick tick :)
Message: Posted by: Angio333 (Jan 12, 2011 09:47PM)
Great web site! I am really considering buying your OOS Cups and Balls.

BTW: What radio show do you host?
Message: Posted by: djkuttdecks (Jan 20, 2011 01:07PM)
Expect a new video within hours! In the next segment Bill and I discuss learning materials for the cups and balls for the beginner to the expert. Also, Bill gives a great story of the first time he met "The Professor".

As for the radio show, Angio you can PM me and I'll discuss it. On a side note, I am considering a weekly radio show / podcast on the subject... any thoughts?


Message: Posted by: Angio333 (Jan 20, 2011 06:50PM)
I think it would be cool if you did a podcast on cups and balls and othe rmagic related stuff. There is a need for some good magic podcasts.
Message: Posted by: conjurormatt (Jan 20, 2011 07:56PM)
Thanks for getting a new segment up Lee! It's great hearing the info. As for a podcast, I think it would be great. I could see you do reviews of various apparatus, maybe get interviews with various well known workers, etc.